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I still favour Pac man even though Valero is awesome.
AMERICAN trainer Freddie Roach said Filipino ring idol Manny Pacquiao may fight undefeated Venezuelan Edwin Valero, who has a record of 22 knockouts in 22 wins, possibly in Macau, in October
http://www.sportsnut.com.au/category.php?intid=7
This just suggests he is scared of Marquez. He won't make more money fighting Valero, and the WBA is not a bigger belt than the WBC, also Marquez is the man to beat. While I think this is an exciting fight, I don't understand Pac's thinking.
Valero does have an incredible record so I guess it can be built up as the battle of the hurricanes.
He does. I'm a big Valero fan, and part of me thinks the fight would be better to watch...but Marquez is the man to beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Jack
you got it twisted fanboy :P jmm pulled another one on pac, "I want more then I'm getting so I don't have to go through hell fighting pacman"....and jmm is not the man to beat the pacman is the man to beat....jmm needs pac more then pac needs him.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
I've been waiting on pac and jmm rematch but fwock jmm now him and his stupid camp, lets go pac vs valero is going to be the shyt.
forget jmm bring in valero....pac vs valero is going to give fans a real treat but I"m afraid it may last 2 sec ;D while these two give us a night to remember...jmm is prolly going to get another chris john to fight and lose to with like $30,000 purse this time somewhere in afganistan ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
It has nothing to do of who's getting scared and who's not. 75% for JMM is a big insult for Pac. Pac attracts more crowd than anybody @ 130 division.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
$5 mil. is already guaranteed for Pac against Valero - and tax free coz they'll be fighting in Macau. I would say that's much better money for Pac.
Plus, if Pac beats JMM in their rematch (which I'm 100% sure he will), JMM fans and most critics will just say... "Pac defeated another old worn-out, washed-up fighter".
Pac has gotten better and stronger after that draw with JMM. And JMM got a little rusty, slow, and very vulnerable to get hit. He is an easy prey for Pac. Capturing that WBC belt is like snatching a lollipop from a 3 year old girl. ;D
I hope both JMM and Pac handlers would agree on 50/50 for fans sake.
Edwin Valero is difinitely a big threat for Pac. If Valero fails to KO Pac in first 3 rounds, then he'll be in deep sh!t.
Hmm I'm not sure about that. Yeah, he's got like 22 wins all via KO but most of it were in Venezuela and against real crappy oposicion. IMO I think only his last what... 3-4 fights should be consired.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Jack
Hell, I'm from Venezuela... I've always cheered for the Boricua fighters, the mexican fighters etc now I finally got somone from my own to cheer for. But let's be real, Valero won't last 2 rounds. He's too green, wild punches, horrible d. Sure he's got some pop in his fists... but how's that going to help him if he's going to be eating leather between his wild punches.
So God damn it.... let's see a Pac Man vs Marquez or Pac vs Barrera........
Don't get me wrong. I'll definetely be there with my Venezuelan flag, chug down a few beers while inhaling a bacon and chesse burger in between and get as rowdy as possible for those couple of rounds before he get's KO'ed ;D. Venezuela presente!
I think your Venenzuelan pride (Valero) is ripe and ready for pickin'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sic103
He must face Pac. He must be tested. Let's watch him shock the world like Pac did.
If Valero wants repect, then he should earn it by beating Pac.
oh yes he will! i watched manny a couple of days back it came out from his mouth that JMM wanted 75/25 split! ofcourse he wont take it pac will offer him the price instead... so if this valero pac fight turns into reality then it only cemented the fact the JMM ducked PAC for the SECOND time!Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
valero good but he never face no one like pac
valero probaly be a star but he cant fight in the u.s.
but someone gonna get knock out
Exactly!Quote:
Originally Posted by mnmc10
I hear yah ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by headson
Valero doesn’t have any tactical skills,
Valero has Lack of experience fighting full 12 rounds,
Valero doesn’t experience to be hit by a numerous hard punches from future hall of famers,
Valero doesn’t know how it feels to be hit by a sladgehammering left of manny
Valero Doesn’t experience to fight those defensive and counterpunchers,
Valero doesn’t have experience to be cut, while fighting full 12 rounds.
Valero doesn't experience exchanging blow, and trading hard punches.
Valero doesn't have thousands of fans chanting his name if full packed arena.
Valero is just a brawler, while Pac is a HIGHLY SKILLED brawler
Amazing poster Pac.
Once again goes tgo show that the guys on this sight are the most dedicated fight fans in the world.
Great to share your views and opinions.
God I hope the fight is staged in Vancouver. Though I guess it sounds like they're leaning towards Macau.
+15 :coolclick:Quote:
Originally Posted by mnmc10
i think this is all just publicity for the casino itself to be honest. i mean arum is boys with wynn and hes just doing him a solid just by getting the resorts name out there in my opinion.
i really feel its gonna be vancouver and prolly joan!
I worry a bit for the people who think Manny is untouchable, unbeatable. God knows I look forward to watching the Pacman fight as much as the next person, and he's beaten a lot of the competition out there, but he's definitely got a tough opponet if he fights Valero, people see the record, then see the competiton, and immedietly think this dude can't box and he's just someone who goes out there, shuts his eyes and throws haymakers. If Manny thinks like a lot of the fans out there he's in for a surprise. And if he fights Joan Guzman, who is quite possible the best stylist out there today, and has no real weaknesses in my opinion, he's got his hands full there too. I think Joan Guzman is the hardest fight for Manny Pacquiao out there today at 126 - 130. Honestly, after watching a lot of Joan Guzman, that man is fantastic to watch and looks very tough to beat.
Totally forgot about the mandatory fees WBC charge. Don't get me wrong, Pac is my fav fighter and I believe he's p4p best in the world. I was just a little concerned about something I read in Boxing News about this. Basically it said "Pac's camp have made it clear JMM is not in their plans." It suggested it had nothing to do with money. You just knew the fight wasn't gunna come off. I want a Barrera rematch for JMM anyway, because I feel the whole Jay Nady fuck up changed the complexion of the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by mnmc10
for me Valero is just a bit crude for PACMAN and i think Pac would KO him inside 4 rounds no problem.
DUDE.......... :o
If this fight happens, I'm going to be a complete Valero nut case!
He'll be one of my favorite fighters who actually made it to the BIG TIME. :) :) :)
(and will win too ;) )