Froch-Miranda ?

I was thinking if EM wants to get at 168 and be a world champion he's going to need a big name behind his record...

He cant jump straight into a title fight and this is what both men are looking for. I think it would be a really good match up, Froch's power vs Miranda's power. Both men really need a boost to get that shot and Froch needs to fight in the states to boost his name more. They are both ranked in the top 10 at 168? I think it would be a true thriller in which both men would not to work on their defence... But that could make it a really good match to watch?

I think it would be a very close fight to call but i would be backing my man Froch ;D

This could be a good fight if they had it on over here in the uk but i think deep down Miranda would KO Froch.

I think pre Pavlik a few people might have given Miranda a shot. Now I dont think so. Froch is too big and strong IMO and would take Miranda out.

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Originally Posted by Memphis

I think pre Pavlik a few people might have given Miranda a shot. Now I dont think so. Froch is too big and strong IMO and would take Miranda out.

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If Miranda said he is going to be fighting at 168, this surely would be a good fight for him? An undefeated prospect with a lot of power? I think it would be an amazing match up...

:) Bit of a risky fight for both fighters, but if they did fight, i would back Carl the cobra Froch to win by KO, just wish he would tighten up that defence, but then thats why, he is exiting to watch ;)

This would be a very entertaining fight while it lasted, but Froch hits as hard as Pavlik for my money and would knock Miranda out about the same time.

Is Carl Froch waiting till hes mid thirties till he actually takes a risk or wot ?
Stop all the take and fight someone who will fight back for gods sake :)

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Is Carl Froch waiting till hes mid thirties till he actually takes a risk or wot ?
Stop all the take and fight someone who will fight back for gods sake :)

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well if you acctually followed CF in the slightest you would see that he recently fell through with a world title shot against JOE C so isnt that a risk? He wants that fight because he believes he will win it! He will get a shot soon, he needs a big name to fight and EM could be one for him. He's a dangerman and i do think he needs the push and it will come very soon.

Not a good fight for EM right now... Froch is to good a fighter to hop a div and take on weight problems or not... Miranda needs to get used to fighting at 68 and then take him on... He's used to middle weight power... He needs to box.

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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Is Carl Froch waiting till hes mid thirties till he actually takes a risk or wot ?
Stop all the take and fight someone who will fight back for gods sake :)

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well if you acctually followed CF in the slightest you would see that he recently fell through with a world title shot against JOE C so isnt that a risk? He wants that fight because he believes he will win it! He will get a shot soon, he needs a big name to fight and EM could be one for him. He's a dangerman and i do think he needs the push and it will come very soon.

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Listen sonny u r 16 years old and know jack about the real world , if you believe that Joe C was going to fight Froch then ok , see the pig flying outside your window !!!
I was just making the point that he is advanced in years for a prospect and if JC doesnt wanna fight then try someone else to make a name for himself.
THATS MY POINT

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Is Carl Froch waiting till hes mid thirties till he actually takes a risk or wot ?
Stop all the take and fight someone who will fight back for gods sake :)

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well if you acctually followed CF in the slightest you would see that he recently fell through with a world title shot against JOE C so isnt that a risk? He wants that fight because he believes he will win it! He will get a shot soon, he needs a big name to fight and EM could be one for him. He's a dangerman and i do think he needs the push and it will come very soon.

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Listen sonny u r 16 years old and know jack about the real world , if you believe that Joe C was going to fight Froch then ok , see the pig flying outside your window !!!
I was just making the point that he is advanced in years for a prospect and if JC doesnt wanna fight then try someone else to make a name for himself.
THATS MY POINT

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Does it matter if im 16 or not? It was going to happen but fell through its simple facts...

He is trying other options because he knows the JC fight fell through...

You will see him fighting for a title soon..

i dont want you to take anything personal...god ;D

There's really not that much of a difference in power between the MW and SMW divisions. I don't know why. Historically, there's been a pretty big step up from 154 to 160, and again from 168 to 175. But natural 160 pounders have always seemed to be able to fight at 168 without giving too much up.

IMO... Miranda, Pavlik, and a motivated JT crack just as hard as JC, MK, Mundine.

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Originally Posted by Memphis

I think pre Pavlik a few people might have given Miranda a shot.

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Yeh agreed mate, infact pre pavlick I would've backed Miranda - not now though ;)

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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Is Carl Froch waiting till hes mid thirties till he actually takes a risk or wot ?
Stop all the take and fight someone who will fight back for gods sake :)

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well if you acctually followed CF in the slightest you would see that he recently fell through with a world title shot against JOE C so isnt that a risk? He wants that fight because he believes he will win it! He will get a shot soon, he needs a big name to fight and EM could be one for him. He's a dangerman and i do think he needs the push and it will come very soon.

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Listen sonny u r 16 years old and know jack about the real world , if you believe that Joe C was going to fight Froch then ok , see the pig flying outside your window !!!
I was just making the point that he is advanced in years for a prospect and if JC doesnt wanna fight then try someone else to make a name for himself.
THATS MY POINT

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Frank Warren was trying to get the fight together but it fell through when Warren wanted options on Froch now he mite only be 16 but he is right. ;)

I think Miranda would take this given he is not completely wrecked. But Miranda has tremendous heart so I'm not so sure he is done. I know Pavlik kind of laid the plan out to beat Miranda, but I don't think Froch could have done what Pavlik did that night. And Miranda is still a puncher and still has power, especially at 168.

I just can't take Froch to be a top guy. He has some serious power, but he holds his hands at his hips. Miranda would actually be the shorter puncher :D Froch just begs for that right hand.

That is if Miranda can come back. That's never assured.

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I think Miranda would take this given he is not completely wrecked. But Miranda has tremendous heart so I'm not so sure he is done. I know Pavlik kind of laid the plan out to beat Miranda, but I don't think Froch could have done what Pavlik did that night. And Miranda is still a puncher and still has power, especially at 168.

I just can't take Froch to be a top guy. He has some serious power, but he holds his hands at his hips. Miranda would actually be the shorter puncher :D Froch just begs for that right hand.

That is if Miranda can come back. That's never assured.

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I think he is a top guy... His last fight showed that he surely is a threat to any man at 168. I could tell when he was walking into the ring that night that he truely was going to stop him. I think we could have seen a lot more than night if the KO hadnt came so early and i think he will stop that BUM! Adamu early as well... Im gutted he is fighting him again though because he has improved a lot since then and he beat him that time... I think a fight with a name like Edision Miranda would prove to be something big for him, he has so much power and he uses it to have an authoirity over his oppananet to the extent were they are going to hit the canvas! I hope he gets a shot soon because he is an awesome fighter!

No question of his determination, but determination can only get you so far. He's got great power, and decent speed but he carries his hands at his waist and he loads up for a very long time on his shots. Miranda, as wild as he might be, had the straight right working good.

Maybe if Froch picked his hands up a little bit, but I think the second he steps in with a top fighter he's done for. Maybe he can overwhelm someone decent past their prim, but really, it's amazing that he's got this far but don' quite thinks he's top flight.

Would love to see him prove me wrong though as he is a very fun guy to watch.

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Originally Posted by amat

No question of his determination, but determination can only get you so far. He's got great power, and decent speed but he carries his hands at his waist and he loads up for a very long time on his shots. Miranda, as wild as he might be, had the straight right working good.

Maybe if Froch picked his hands up a little bit, but I think the second he steps in with a top fighter he's done for. Maybe he can overwhelm someone decent past their prim, but really, it's amazing that he's got this far but don' quite thinks he's top flight.

Would love to see him prove me wrong though as he is a very fun guy to watch.

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maybe a guy like Miranda would give Carl the boost to do this though... I agree that the detemination can get you only so far but its a good factor to have behind you if you want to make it far. I saw in carls eyes that he wants to prove that he is the man to beat at 168 and i really do believe what he says because everything he has said.. He has done, i dont want to sound like a bummer or anything but i think he can be a champion!

Tam you sound like a bummer.

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Originally Posted by Memphis

Tam you sound like a bummer.

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haha i know i know ;D but ive gota have some belief he will be champ!