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Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
June 07, 2007
JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ-JORGE BARRIOS HEADLINES HBO PPV ON SEPT. 15
By G. Leon
Golden Boy Brings Fireworks to MGM Grand!
Moments ago Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer informed Boxingtalk.com that 130 pound champion Juan Manuel Marquez will square off against the always exciting Jorge "La Hiena" Barrios on September 15. Marquez-Barrios will take place at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Nevada and headline a four fight HBO PPV telecast. "We're billing the fight as 'Fireworks' because that's what it's going to be, fireworks. In addition to the main event there will be three televised undercard fights and they will all be toe to toe battles," said the Golden CEO. Schaefer was reluctant to elaborate on who will be appearing on the undercard but assured us "there will be other well known names." As this goes to print Sugar Shane Mosley is not one of them. "Mosley will have his own date," stated Schaefer. (1:24 PM EST)
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
SWEET it should be a sweet fight, i'm goin with JMM unanimous decision.
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
This is a good match-up, I think JMM will be able to out-box Barrios all night, but for my money this one is worth the PPV
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
Marquez's style will stop this being a great fight but it certainly will be intereseting. JMM wide UD
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
JMM should look good in this fight IF he fights smart,counters,like he used to. Prior to his last 3 fights,he never used to be marked up at all,all of a sudden,he has become a bit of a banger but for this he fight,he needs to revert to counter punching. Barrios punches are wide and sloppy,JMM should win well.
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
I'm not impressed to be honest, it's not a bad match-up but he should be fighting Guzman, Barrera or Pacquiao. Barrios is almost 32 and really struggles to make 130lbs, and he was beaten by Guzman in Sept.
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
uhh. not bad but
you already knows who gonna win jmm it wont be by decision
plus thier mab , pacman ,maybe even a rematch with chris john
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
Barrios deserves this shot, hes been around forever waiting. He will make it a good fight, I'm glad he got the shot. I think he can pull it out, its not gonna be as one sided as some may think.
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
I'm not impressed to be honest, it's not a bad match-up but he should be fighting Guzman, Barrera or Pacquiao. Barrios is almost 32 and really struggles to make 130lbs, and he was beaten by Guzman in Sept.
Same here. Boooo.
But maybe he needs a sort of tune-up slash tough fight to keep him busy.... the Barrera fight was grueling afterall.
Not a fight to be excited about, Barrios isn't the same, and when he was 'the same' his talent never guided him, it was his heart.
Only a sort of glorified 'victory lap' for Marquez.
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
It's a good little matchup but this is exactly what's wrong with the sport. There's no way in hell that this should be a PPV. Barrios just got handled by Guzman, why in the hell should we pay to see this fight? I'm not purchasing this crap.
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
It's a good little matchup but this is exactly what's wrong with the sport. There's no way in hell that this should be a PPV. Barrios just got handled by Guzman, why in the hell should we pay to see this fight? I'm not purchasing this crap.
You make a valid point. I don't see why this should be PPV at all!!! But JMM is stuck because everyone wants Pac!
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
I was checking out the two fighters records, they are identical 47-3-1 Marquez has 35 ko Barrios 34...kind of weird. You guys are talking like Guzman kicked his ass....it was a close split decision all cards were close. He was close in the Freitas fight too. I think he may surprise some of you.
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
JMM will beat Barrios on points.
JMM by UD. Barrios' punches are too wide, too predictable.
This is going to be on PVV?... Come on! No way!
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
PPV?!!! And people wonder why boxing is in dire straits. As for Marquez...as much as i love him as a fighter...he must have either the most incompetent management/advisers in the sport...or he is just incredibly unlucky. Maybe the rematch with Barrera or Pac just couldn't be made...and Barrios isn't a bum...but still....just leaves me feeling underwhelmed.
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
The PPV will be justified if they throw 2 more fights that have some big names. Otherwise this is not gonna generate alot of sales.....because no one knows about Barrios that isnt a knowledgeable fan.
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
Nice.
I think this is a really good match up for JMM (being that the Pac fights not coming off) Barrios brings a prominent name with credibility and is a former Champ.
Let's see what Arum pulls off for Pac?
(Not another Solis let's hope :-X )
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
I really wanna see Pac fights the youngans Valero or Soto while he's in his prime.
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
Barrios is o.k. but I would have preferred Marquez to face Valero, Soto or Guzman
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
Barrios is o.k. but I would have preferred Marquez to face Valero, Soto or Guzman
I don't get why people think Valeros ready for those top guys I personaly think hes not but that's just my opinion.
Soto's only fought twice at Super Feather and neither opponent was of any notice so IMO hes still untested there.
Guzman would have been great BUT he's campaining at Lightweight now.
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
There is something very anticlimatic about Marquez fighting Barrios. It's just disappointing that Barrera looses and goes on to fight Pacman while Marquez goes on to fight... Barrios! :-\
I'm not saying that Barrera is a joke or the fight is a farce, but can you really see him winning? No matter how tight I squeeze my eyes shut I can't imagine it.
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
Barrios is o.k. but I would have preferred Marquez to face Valero, Soto or Guzman
I don't get why people think Valeros ready for those top guys I personaly think hes not but that's just my opinion.
Soto's only fought twice at Super Feather and neither opponent was of any notice so IMO hes still untested there.
Guzman would have been great BUT he's campaining at Lightweight now.
Always on top of things. Soto's one of my fav's. Your talk is scarying me a little. heh
I can't wait to see Soto fight this weekend.
Oh man, nice pics too, lookin' smooth 8)
and from the angle of the picture, you look like Barrera's brother. ;D
Wish I were you in those pictures. One of these days I'll go back to seeing fights live again.
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
Always on top of things. Soto's one of my fav's. Your talk is scarying me a little. heh
I can't wait to see Soto fight this weekend.
Don't get me wrong it's easy to see Sotos skilled when you see him fight BUT you gotta see the quality of opposition I don't think either guy he's beat has been a top ranked fighter.
Fighting and beating B-Pac won't tell you much either. :-\
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
Oh man, nice pics too, lookin' smooth 8)
and from the angle of the picture, you look like Barrera's brother. ;D
Thank you man really.
I just put the video together last night...
I look nothing like MAB. ;D
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
Wish I were you in those pictures. One of these days I'll go back to seeing fights live again.
Yeah! man that's the thing to do... If you can get in the arena to watch a fight thats the best. 8)
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
It's a good little matchup but this is exactly what's wrong with the sport. There's no way in hell that this should be a PPV. Barrios just got handled by Guzman, why in the hell should we pay to see this fight? I'm not purchasing this crap.
this is dissapointing, I agree with you 100% :coolclick: this should not be PPV!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
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Originally Posted by zhubin
PPV?!!! And people wonder why boxing is in dire straits. As for Marquez...as much as i love him as a fighter...he must have either the most incompetent management/advisers in the sport...or he is just incredibly unlucky. Maybe the rematch with Barrera or Pac just couldn't be made...and Barrios isn't a bum...but still....just leaves me feeling underwhelmed.
:coolclick: for you too...I think the same about jmm, its either his out of luck or his management are shyt. But hey they got jmm a PPV event but ;( against barrios....this is a tune up for jmm shouldn't be a PPV event.
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
I'm not impressed to be honest, it's not a bad match-up but he should be fighting Guzman, Barrera or Pacquiao. Barrios is almost 32 and really struggles to make 130lbs, and he was beaten by Guzman in Sept.
Its not a match up that excites me either. The result is fairly predictable. Marquez by decision or late stoppage.
A better fight than this could have been laid down...
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
Barrios' top two profile fights were his stoppage loss to Freitas and his points loss to Guzman in which he was embarrassed . Somehow that qulaifies him for a shot at teh title but then again Morales has lost 3 in a row 2 by k.o yet he gets a shot at the same organisations belt . Just an example of how corrupt the WBC is
Marquez could have atleast gone for the winner Giuzman but he went for the loser Barrios
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
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Originally Posted by GAME
Barrios' top two profile fights were his stoppage loss to Freitas and his points loss to Guzman in which he was embarrassed . Somehow that qulaifies him for a shot at teh title but then again Morales has lost 3 in a row 2 by k.o yet he gets a shot at the same organisations belt . Just an example of how corrupt the WBC is
Marquez could have atleast gone for the winner Giuzman but he went for the loser Barrios
morales got a shot because of his reputation and what he has brought to the sport, don't compare barrios whom has no ability to mustard a win like morales at any given fight, and the fact that morales beat pac at the first fight gives him the chance of repeating a victory thats why pac and em fought three times.
But I totally agree, jmm should of fought the winner guzman vs barrios which was guzman makes no sense to fight barrios unless its just a tune up fight but a damn PPV event is total b.S.
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
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Originally Posted by GAME
Barrios' top two profile fights were his stoppage loss to Freitas and his points loss to Guzman in which he was embarrassed . Somehow that qulaifies him for a shot at teh title but then again Morales has lost 3 in a row 2 by k.o yet he gets a shot at the same organisations belt . Just an example of how corrupt the WBC is
Marquez could have atleast gone for the winner Giuzman but he went for the loser Barrios
morales got a shot because of his reputation and what he has brought to the sport, don't compare
barrios whom has no ability to mustard a win like morales at any given fight, and the fact that morales beat pac at the first fight gives him the chance of repeating a victory thats why pac and em fought three times.
But I totally agree, jmm should of fought the winner guzman vs barrios which was guzman makes no sense to fight barrios unless its just a tune up fight but a damn PPV event is total b.S.
If its based on past achievemenst then why hasnt Holyfield automatically got another at the ttitle ? He hasnt been knocked out twice ina row . I just think the WBC is biased and they have favourites .
Erik cant really call himslef a true 4 weight champion by beating Diaz but thats a different topic . If Barrios somehow won here , what a joke that would be
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
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Originally Posted by GAME
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
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Originally Posted by GAME
Barrios' top two profile fights were his stoppage loss to Freitas and his points loss to Guzman in which he was embarrassed . Somehow that qulaifies him for a shot at teh title but then again Morales has lost 3 in a row 2 by k.o yet he gets a shot at the same organisations belt . Just an example of how corrupt the WBC is
Marquez could have atleast gone for the winner Giuzman but he went for the loser Barrios
morales got a shot because of his reputation and what he has brought to the sport, don't compare
barrios whom has no ability to mustard a win like morales at any given fight, and the fact that morales beat pac at the first fight gives him the chance of repeating a victory thats why pac and em fought three times.
But I totally agree, jmm should of fought the winner guzman vs barrios which was guzman makes no sense to fight barrios unless its just a tune up fight but a damn PPV event is total b.S.
If its based on past achievemenst then why hasnt Holyfield automatically got another at the ttitle ? He hasnt been knocked out twice ina row . I just think the WBC is biased and they have favourites .
Erik cant really call himslef a true 4 weight champion by beating Diaz but thats a different topic . If Barrios somehow won here , what a joke that would be
wow you went off topic with holyfield that is totally different. Is holyfield rematching a fighter he beat in an all out war like pac and em 1 ??? Is it just months later not years ??? maybe you don't get what i was saying or you just don't want to get it :(
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
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Originally Posted by GAME
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
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Originally Posted by GAME
Barrios' top two profile fights were his stoppage loss to Freitas and his points loss to Guzman in which he was embarrassed . Somehow that qulaifies him for a shot at teh title but then again Morales has lost 3 in a row 2 by k.o yet he gets a shot at the same organisations belt . Just an example of how corrupt the WBC is
Marquez could have atleast gone for the winner Giuzman but he went for the loser Barrios
morales got a shot because of his reputation and what he has brought to the sport, don't compare
barrios whom has no ability to mustard a win like morales at any given fight, and the fact that morales beat pac at the first fight gives him the chance of repeating a victory thats why pac and em fought three times.
But I totally agree, jmm should of fought the winner guzman vs barrios which was guzman makes no sense to fight barrios unless its just a tune up fight but a damn PPV event is total b.S.
If its based on past achievemenst then why hasnt Holyfield automatically got another at the ttitle ? He hasnt been knocked out twice ina row . I just think the WBC is biased and they have favourites .
Erik cant really call himslef a true 4 weight champion by beating Diaz but thats a different topic . If Barrios somehow won here , what a joke that would be
wow you went off topic with holyfield that is totally different. Is holyfield rematching a fighter he beat in an all out war like pac and em 1 ??? Is it just months later not years ??? maybe you don't get what i was saying or you just don't want to get it :(
No the comparrisson was entirley relevant . Evander has never been knocked out back to back. Plus Eriks got a shot in a higher weight class . What has he done to show he is a contender in that weight division when he got beat in 4 out ofhis last 5 in the weight below . You're a Morales fan so maybe thats why you cannot grasp it.
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
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Originally Posted by GAME
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
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Originally Posted by GAME
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
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Originally Posted by GAME
Barrios' top two profile fights were his stoppage loss to Freitas and his points loss to Guzman in which he was embarrassed . Somehow that qulaifies him for a shot at teh title but then again Morales has lost 3 in a row 2 by k.o yet he gets a shot at the same organisations belt . Just an example of how corrupt the WBC is
Marquez could have atleast gone for the winner Giuzman but he went for the loser Barrios
morales got a shot because of his reputation and what he has brought to the sport, don't compare
barrios whom has no ability to mustard a win like morales at any given fight, and the fact that morales beat pac at the first fight gives him the chance of repeating a victory thats why pac and em fought three times.
But I totally agree, jmm should of fought the winner guzman vs barrios which was guzman makes no sense to fight barrios unless its just a tune up fight but a damn PPV event is total b.S.
If its based on past achievemenst then why hasnt Holyfield automatically got another at the ttitle ? He hasnt been knocked out twice ina row . I just think the WBC is biased and they have favourites .
Erik cant really call himslef a true 4 weight champion by beating Diaz but thats a different topic . If Barrios somehow won here , what a joke that would be
wow you went off topic with holyfield that is totally different. Is holyfield rematching a fighter he beat in an all out war like pac and em 1 ??? Is it just months later not years ??? maybe you don't get what i was saying or you just don't want to get it :(
No the comparrisson was entirley relevant . Evander has never been knocked out back to back. Plus Eriks got a shot in a higher weight class . What has he done to show he is a contender in that weight division when he got beat in 4 out ofhis last 5 in the weight below . You're a Morales fan so maybe thats why you cannot grasp it.
Most pacfans have high repect for Erik Morales than any boxers that Pac fought because of the fact that Erik beat Manny with NO controversy.
Pac's 1st 2 losses were from weight issues. He could'nt make 106 and 112.
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
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Originally Posted by GAME
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
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Originally Posted by GAME
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
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Originally Posted by GAME
Barrios' top two profile fights were his stoppage loss to Freitas and his points loss to Guzman in which he was embarrassed . Somehow that qulaifies him for a shot at teh title but then again Morales has lost 3 in a row 2 by k.o yet he gets a shot at the same organisations belt . Just an example of how corrupt the WBC is
Marquez could have atleast gone for the winner Giuzman but he went for the loser Barrios
morales got a shot because of his reputation and what he has brought to the sport, don't compare
barrios whom has no ability to mustard a win like morales at any given fight, and the fact that morales beat pac at the first fight gives him the chance of repeating a victory thats why pac and em fought three times.
But I totally agree, jmm should of fought the winner guzman vs barrios which was guzman makes no sense to fight barrios unless its just a tune up fight but a damn PPV event is total b.S.
If its based on past achievemenst then why hasnt Holyfield automatically got another at the ttitle ? He hasnt been knocked out twice ina row . I just think the WBC is biased and they have favourites .
Erik cant really call himslef a true 4 weight champion by beating Diaz but thats a different topic . If Barrios somehow won here , what a joke that would be
wow you went off topic with holyfield that is totally different. Is holyfield rematching a fighter he beat in an all out war like pac and em 1 ??? Is it just months later not years ??? maybe you don't get what i was saying or you just don't want to get it :(
No the comparrisson was entirley relevant . Evander has never been knocked out back to back. Plus Eriks got a shot in a higher weight class . What has he done to show he is a contender in that weight division when he got beat in 4 out ofhis last 5 in the weight below . You're a Morales fan so maybe thats why you cannot grasp it.
Most pacfans have high repect for Erik Morales than any boxers that Pac fought because of the fact that Erik beat Manny with NO controversy.
actually there were a few(gloves, blood drain etc) but the fact that pac proved he'll k.o eric if they hadnt made him wear gloves he wasn't use to was enough to accept the lost the first fight. Beside we all benefited from the trilogy. We all needed eric to win the first fight so yea a few helpfull things here and there were ok to limit pac. The trilogy was great lets leave it at that ;D
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
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Originally Posted by GAME
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
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Originally Posted by GAME
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
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Originally Posted by GAME
Barrios' top two profile fights were his stoppage loss to Freitas and his points loss to Guzman in which he was embarrassed . Somehow that qulaifies him for a shot at teh title but then again Morales has lost 3 in a row 2 by k.o yet he gets a shot at the same organisations belt . Just an example of how corrupt the WBC is
Marquez could have atleast gone for the winner Giuzman but he went for the loser Barrios
morales got a shot because of his reputation and what he has brought to the sport, don't compare
barrios whom has no ability to mustard a win like morales at any given fight, and the fact that morales beat pac at the first fight gives him the chance of repeating a victory thats why pac and em fought three times.
But I totally agree, jmm should of fought the winner guzman vs barrios which was guzman makes no sense to fight barrios unless its just a tune up fight but a damn PPV event is total b.S.
If its based on past achievemenst then why hasnt Holyfield automatically got another at the ttitle ? He hasnt been knocked out twice ina row . I just think the WBC is biased and they have favourites .
Erik cant really call himslef a true 4 weight champion by beating Diaz but thats a different topic . If Barrios somehow won here , what a joke that would be
wow you went off topic with holyfield that is totally different. Is holyfield rematching a fighter he beat in an all out war like pac and em 1 ??? Is it just months later not years ??? maybe you don't get what i was saying or you just don't want to get it :(
No the comparrisson was entirley relevant . Evander has never been knocked out back to back. Plus Eriks got a shot in a higher weight class . What has he done to show he is a contender in that weight division when he got beat in 4 out ofhis last 5 in the weight below . You're a Morales fan so maybe thats why you cannot grasp it.
who else beside eric is there to fight diaz ??? its not like anyone around is so determined to get a shot at the moment, right? Eric is a legend his paid his dues, Diaz will gladly fight him who wouldn't?
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Re: Marquez vs Barrios Sept 15th
You're right about the glove issue. Cleto Reyes did matter.
:D
