Toney suspended for Steroids?!

Toney suspended for steroids!

The California State Athletic Commission has levied a one year suspension on former world champion James "Lights Out" Toney. Toney tested positive for both Boldenone Metabolite and Stanozolol Metabolite after his May 24 fight against Danny Barchelder at the HP Pavilion in San Jose, California. Toney has been fined $2,500 and his suspension period runs from the conclusion of the bout until the end of his licensing year which is May 22, 2008. He will be close to 40 when he is eligible to return to the ring. Interestingly, Boldenone is an anabolic steroid developed primarily for horses and is only available through veterinary clinics. Stanozolol is the same steroid that boxer Fernando Vargas was suspended nine months for in 2002 by the Nevada Commission. This is Toney's second suspension for steroid use. After dethroning John Ruiz in 2005, Toney was suspended by the New York Commission and stripped of the WBA heavyweight title after testing positive for the anabolic steroid nandrolone.
Toney's May 24 opponent Danny Batchelder also tested positive with the steroids Oxandrolone, Stanozolol Metabolite, and an elevated T/E Ratio. Like Toney, he also been fined $2,500 and suspended through the end of his licensing year which is May 22, 2008.

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Since the site has been down we have heard the news of James Toney testing positive for 2 banned substances...

As many of you know, James is one of my favourite fighters. Im obviously upset by the news and his career is probably over. What are you thoughts and opinions surrounding possibly the last act of James Toney the fighter?

I will state my own opinion later when I feel Im better able to reflect and say what I feel...

i like james toney alot but i would like him more if he retired now. i like watching his fights but he is getting a worse rep for himself because this is now the second time he has taken banned substances. retire now toney. your the main man

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Originally Posted by ds91

i like james toney alot but i would like him more if he retired now. i like watching his fights but he is getting a worse rep for himself because this is now the second time he has taken banned substances. retire now toney. your the main man

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Is he really the main man? Its been a long time since Toney was even winning fights? :-\

But yes he should retire. He can achieve little more than what has already been done.

What an awful ending though?! :(

I think a lot of us like toney and were dissappointed at this news...but after his last performance and with this news i sadly think it's time for him to go away...

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Originally Posted by Mar

I think a lot of us like toney and were dissappointed at this news...but after his last performance and with this news i sadly think it's time for him to go away...

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You may be right.

I still want to hear something from Toney though. He should say something.

This s**t! has to stop I don't know about the rest of you BUT me I hate cheaters and finining Toney JUST $2,500 dlls. is s**t. I think the fine should be raised and so should the suspension.
f*ck this 1st time offender, 2nd time offender levels of punishment s**t... They do it once make the punishment so that they don't make it to level 2.

Test positive once.
$ 1million dollar fine, with a infinte suspension. that'll solve that problem.....

Any person/fighter who needs to do s**t like this to try and have an advantage over and opponent is s**t! and for that reason only I despise fighters that do that....
I thing is to be a suspect of using them I know people say RJJ and Evander both used them BUT show me the report/test item thats states they tested positive in a test.

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

This s**t! has to stop I don't know about the rest of you BUT me I hate cheaters and finining Toney JUST $2,500 dlls. is s**t. I think the fine should be raised and so should the suspension.
f*ck this 1st time offender, 2nd time offender levels of punishment s**t... They do it once make the punishment so that they don't make it to level 2.

Test positive once.
$ 1million dollar fine, with a infinte suspension. that'll solve that problem.....

Any person/fighter who needs to do s**t like this to try and have an advantage over and opponent is s**t! and for that reason only I despise fighters that do that....
I thing is to be a suspect of using them I know people say RJJ and Evander both used them BUT show me the report/test item thats states they tested positive in a test.

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Yeah, and the wondefully lithe Toney has benefited all the way from the use of drugs.... ::**

Wonder where i have heard this before :-\

You have got to be s**ting me. Toney gets fined $2,500???? That is really going to eat into his beer + burger fund. Colour me unsurprised, and personally I don't see Toney ever standing in a ring again, unless he becomes a trainer. And who'd respect him as a trainer....a middleweight that ended up as a heavy. Mad career, and an inominious end.

I saw this on espn.com earlier today. And here i was already to give my "well atleast boxers don't juice like baseball players" speech.......... >:mad

Second time he has been done with this - wonder how many of the fights he 'won' were under legal conditions too... to me it throws most of his wins and his legecy into serious jeperdy

I would think he would have stayed away from steroids after he lost his title. What a dumb move. He has to know what he is doing. By the way. I read in the newspaper that Toney was stripped of his heavyweight title. Is he recognized as being a former champ or is it like he never was champion? how does that work? Are he and Jones the only middleweights to be heavyweight champ or is it only Jones. curious how that works. He should not be recognized at all.

You people seem to forget (not making excuses because this is unexcusable) that after the second peter fight toney was diagnosed with a pituatary disorder from blows to the head and the only treatment would be steroids to a certain degree. I'm not sure if those are the ones the doctors said he would need but i'm still sure that these ones are for the pituatary thing and the ones before were for an arm injury. If they busted athletes that were higher profile than toney, they would've busted him earlier if he tested positive as well.

the end of his career is shady but dont let that take away from what it was preheavyweight.

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Originally Posted by Punisher136

You people seem to forget (not making excuses because this is unexcusable) that after the second peter fight toney was diagnosed with a pituatary disorder from blows to the head and the only treatment would be steroids to a certain degree. I'm not sure if those are the ones the doctors said he would need but i'm still sure that these ones are for the pituatary thing and the ones before were for an arm injury. If they busted athletes that were higher profile than toney, they would've busted him earlier if he tested positive as well.

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interesting, I didn't know about his condition

Toney needs to retire anyway. He was a great fighter, but he's at the end of the road. Hopefully this suspension will make the retirement decision for him.

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

Toney needs to retire anyway. He was a great fighter, but he's at the end of the road. Hopefully this suspension will make the retirement decision for him.

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I agree. He doesn't have naything left to prove and hes not getting any younger.

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

This s**t! has to stop I don't know about the rest of you BUT me I hate cheaters and finining Toney JUST $2,500 dlls. is s**t. I think the fine should be raised and so should the suspension.
f*ck this 1st time offender, 2nd time offender levels of punishment s**t... They do it once make the punishment so that they don't make it to level 2.

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this is his second offense tho >:mad

Fwock!

Damnit james.. I hate to say it but his career is probably over..

I fear his only hope of late has been to make cruiser and go all out.. But after a long suspension and with his age i fear he may be unable to top off his career..

I hope he is remembered for what a great fighter he is and was instead of steriod use and lack of discipline to make weight..

Mixed feelings right now..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/6751023.stm

Unless he wins an appeal here I dont suppose we'll hear much more from Toney now.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/6751023.stm

Unless he wins an appeal here I dont suppose we'll hear much more from Toney now.

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Yup. James Toney has cooked his goose.

The fella he was going to fight tested positive for the same drug. Maybe they has an agreement between them or something...

Hmmm...... I thought that blubber was looking kind of chiseled lately.

Remember isn't his first time in a steroids scandal...Last time he claimed his trainer slipped it to him

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

Remember isn't his first time in a steroids scandal...Last time he claimed his trainer slipped it to him

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Must've snuck it into his triple-decker Big Mac with double bacon.

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

Remember isn't his first time in a steroids scandal...Last time he claimed his trainer slipped it to him

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Must've snuck it into his triple-decker Big Mac with double bacon.

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lol......

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Wonder where i have heard this before :-\

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Thats what I ask myself when I talk about something and next thing you know a thread pops up with the exact same 'talk' that I was on.

Strange. huh! :D

He's only been banned to fight in Calafornia right?

To be honest as far as affecting Toney's career it won't make any difference. The guy is the new milleniums Roberto Duran and will keep fighting until he has a car crash or some other injury that finally finishes him off for good.

Toney lives to fight. If the entire USA banned him he'd probably go fight in Columbia or Mexico.

This won't be the last we see of him in the ring.

He should have just stayed down in weight,he never had the hand size,and trying to get the bulk allways screwed him up,not to mention his eating habits

A second time... come on James whats with you?

By the time the suspension is up he'll be nearing 40. Best to leave the game now I say!

2 times is not good for Toney.. This hurts his career.. not prior heavyweight but why would he cheat like this and think he would get away with it. He should not get another title shot. I think he is a great champ but he should not be cheating.

I never liked james toney but i always respected him....Not anymore tho.

This is really depressing for me being that James Toney is one of my favorite fighters. I hate to say this but I really do believe its time for him to hang the gloves up. But the way James is I'm sure he will come back once the suspension is up. I wonder what Freddie Roach thinks of all this and if James does fight again after the suspension I wonder if he will even train him. Anyone know if Roach has commented on this yet?

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Originally Posted by miles

Since the site has been down we have heard the news of James Toney testing positive for 2 banned substances...

As many of you know, James is one of my favourite fighters. Im obviously upset by the news and his career is probably over. What are you thoughts and opinions surrounding possibly the last act of James Toney the fighter?

I will state my own opinion later when I feel Im better able to reflect and say what I feel...

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Toney has remained silent which is an unusual state of affairs for him and that does indicate perhaps in itself a certain admission of guilt.

This is a terrible blow to boxing and a serious punch in the groin to the image and legacy of James Toney.

Its also a huge dissapointment to me. Toney has been one of my favourite fighters for a long time now and to have this come up at this stage in his career is a huge downer. Toney has had a long career with many highs but of course his recent career has been blighted by lows.

The win over Jirov was awesome. Then to beat Holyfield as he stepped up to heavyweight, it all seemed so promising. Then of course the tarnished "win" over Ruiz. I gave Toney the benefit of the doubt and hoped he would get back into the ring quickly. But he didnt quite step it up how I thought he should have and could have. The waistline got bigger and bigger. Then the awful "draw" against the champion journeyman Rahman. Still, I believed that if Toney could lose some weight he could win a belt. I thought Toney beat Peter first time out, but he had to take blows like never before. The second fight was a clear loss and Toney was lacking. Still, after a long break Toney was back and again I believed that he could make a difference with a fitness plan and a few quick warm ups. We got a shoddy SD against a journeyman and then he tests positive for 2 banned substances!!

My faith has all but flickered out. How stupid. To have been caught the first time why would he be so stupid as to take any risks again? It doesnt make any sense to me. What was he hoping to achieve by this? What benefits was he reaching for exactly?

The amazing part is that both fighters tested positive

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The amazing part is that both fighters tested positive

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It is utterly bewildering

See this is an opportunity for all those promoters out there....They should have fought off Toney and the opponent with the steroids.
And instead of Going like...trained by Freddie roach, they could go...trained by anabolic steroids inc....

And then we could have competition between the various types of performance enhancing drugs and see which is superior. They could call it boxing+ or somethin like that.

Uh...sorry dunno wher that came outta, its those damn pills my trainer bin slippin me.

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

This s**t! has to stop I don't know about the rest of you BUT me I hate cheaters and finining Toney JUST $2,500 dlls. is s**t. I think the fine should be raised and so should the suspension.
f*ck this 1st time offender, 2nd time offender levels of punishment s**t... They do it once make the punishment so that they don't make it to level 2.

Test positive once.
$ 1million dollar fine, with a infinte suspension. that'll solve that problem.....

Any person/fighter who needs to do s**t like this to try and have an advantage over and opponent is s**t! and for that reason only I despise fighters that do that....
I thing is to be a suspect of using them I know people say RJJ and Evander both used them BUT show me the report/test item thats states they tested positive in a test.

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kin right Cutme , said with the passion and anger that fills Swashbuckling Gordy !!!!

Run this arsehole out of boxing

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Originally Posted by Swashbuckling Gordy

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

This s**t! has to stop I don't know about the rest of you BUT me I hate cheaters and finining Toney JUST $2,500 dlls. is s**t. I think the fine should be raised and so should the suspension.
f*ck this 1st time offender, 2nd time offender levels of punishment s**t... They do it once make the punishment so that they don't make it to level 2.

Test positive once.
$ 1million dollar fine, with a infinte suspension. that'll solve that problem.....

Any person/fighter who needs to do s**t like this to try and have an advantage over and opponent is s**t! and for that reason only I despise fighters that do that....
I thing is to be a suspect of using them I know people say RJJ and Evander both used them BUT show me the report/test item thats states they tested positive in a test.

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kin right Cutme , said with the passion and anger that fills Swashbuckling Gordy !!!!

Run this arsehole out of boxing

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Make sure it's not into the sea, otherwise he will be mistaken for a whale, and will end up with a harpoon in him.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

He's only been banned to fight in Calafornia right?

To be honest as far as affecting Toney's career it won't make any difference. The guy is the new milleniums Roberto Duran and will keep fighting until he has a car crash or some other injury that finally finishes him off for good.

Toney lives to fight. If the entire USA banned him he'd probably go fight in Columbia or Mexico.

This won't be the last we see of him in the ring.

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Good point! Cc

The proof of that is in his last fight.. It wasnt televised.. He doesnt even really have the urge to have his fights on tv..

Hes just still fighting