Erik Morales vs David Diaz

ROSEMONT, Illinois – It will be the Battle of Midway when three-division world champion ERIK “El TERRIBLE” MORALES, making his Chicago debut and seeking his record fourth world boxing title in as many weight divisions, rumbles with WBC lightweight champion and Chicago native DAVID DIAZ in the main event of “The War for 4!” Promoted by Top Rank Inc., in association with Dominic Pesoli’s 8 Count Promotions, “The War for 4!” world championship extravaganza will take place Saturday, August 4 from the Allstate Arena in Rosemont, ILL. and broadcast live on pay-per-view.

Has anyone here seen David Diaz fight?

Erik is way past his peak, but I hope he wins convincingly.

This shouldn't be on PPV.

I just hope Erik doesn't get hurt.

I saw Diaz fight live once. Very soft paper champion. I don't think Morales will win but he shouldn't get roughed up too bad.

Call me crazy but I think Morales wins this one...

I go for Morales.

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

I just hope Erik doesn't get hurt.

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Exactly.

Diaz isn't that good of a fighter. But he is tough and he hangs in there all fight and is very persistant. Like a lot of Mexican fighters, he'll be the same guy in round 1 as he is in round 9 and that scares me a bit because Morales fatigues early now.

I'm really not happy with this fight and this is from a guy who wanted Gatti - Chico really bad.

If Morales wins, then no big deal, Diaz isn't that good and certainly isn't on Morales' level. But he would get a belt and be lined up to face someone who could be dangerous. It's not really this fight that has me uneasy, it's what comes after this.

Why is Morales taking this fight! I love the guy but there is no need!

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

I just hope Erik doesn't get hurt.

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I can't see him walking away the victor that is for dang sure!

If he does get past David Diaz I'd like to see Kid Diamond get a shot at working him over for the shiny trinket.

Yes, I'm a Kid Diamond man! I wish he would cut loose that rat tail though.

I think he will get back on track once he gets another chance at glory. I am sure he grows weary of piddlin' around with lesser fighters.

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Originally Posted by a harmful of swallows

I saw Diaz fight live once. Very soft paper champion. I don't think Morales will win but he shouldn't get roughed up too bad.

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Sounds like this fight is going to be a good one but mediocre.

i just hope morales wins

you guys are crazy, morales is going to win. He'll beat Diaz at a weight class more suited for him now. Then after he wins everyone is going to be like ooh eric is at a better weight class ooh his going to beat so and so. typical boxing fans always so predictable.

The way Erik has been getting knocked out back to back recently suggests he has nothing left but , he has had a lay off and now at a higher weight he is going against his easiest opponent for a long time. Diaz cant break an egg with his punches and would be fit to lace Morales' boots in his prime. Now though its a toss up .

If it gets too hot in the kitchen Erik will probably get knocked out for the 3rd time in a row and have his 5th loss in his last 6 fights but if he can play it safe theres no reason to belive he cant beat Diaz who is a poor fighter

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The way Erik has been getting knocked out back to back recently suggests he has nothing left but , he has had a lay off and now at a higher weight he is going against his easiest opponent for a long time. Diaz cant break an egg with his punches and would be fit to lace Morales' boots in his prime. Now though its a toss up .

If it gets too hot in the kitchen Erik will probably get knocked out for the 3rd time in a row and have his 5th loss in his last 6 fights but if he can play it safe theres no reason to belive he cant beat Diaz who is a poor fighter

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pac knocks out pretty much everyone he faces, he hasn't won a single decision in america they are all by knock out. so just because you get knock out by pac back to back doesn't quite mean he has nothing left. jst my 2 cent. I think the new weight for eric will be better for him.

It wasn't better for him against Raheem. He's never looked as bad as he did against Raheem.

While it'll be impossible for me to not root for Morales (he's one of my favorite all-time fighters), my biggest worry is that he'll win this fight, and then fight next against an elite fighter who could really hurt him.

Say Morales wins (but still looks old), and then Marquez can't get a fight with either Pac or MAB, would Marquez take the big money and fight Morales at 135? Ya, he might. And I think he would beat up Erik.

I'm scared about that too SweetPea. I love EM but a win over Diaz would not mean he could hand with the elite at the weight. IF he does win,I hope he calls it a day.

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It wasn't better for him against Raheem. He's never looked as bad as he did against Raheem.

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RAheem was lucky that day, unfocus eric showed up that night. He clearly under estimated raheem. Look at when eric decided to get in the fight he whoop raheem with one hand and knock him down.

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

While it'll be impossible for me to not root for Morales (he's one of my favorite all-time fighters), my biggest worry is that he'll win this fight, and then fight next against an elite fighter who could really hurt him.

Say Morales wins (but still looks old), and then Marquez can't get a fight with either Pac or MAB, would Marquez take the big money and fight Morales at 135? Ya, he might. And I think he would beat up Erik.

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You guys are looking down at eric way too much. marquez will not beat up eric if he moves up to 135 that is very unlikely.

I'll remember all the names thinking eric is just a push over now and will get easily beaten by anyone just because the best in the featherweight took him out.

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Originally Posted by Julius Rain

I'll remember all the names thinking eric is just a push over now and will get easily beaten by anyone just because the best in the featherweight took him out.

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Add BoxingGorilla to your list of names to remember, Mr. Rain.

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

While it'll be impossible for me to not root for Morales (he's one of my favorite all-time fighters), my biggest worry is that he'll win this fight, and then fight next against an elite fighter who could really hurt him.

Say Morales wins (but still looks old), and then Marquez can't get a fight with either Pac or MAB, would Marquez take the big money and fight Morales at 135? Ya, he might. And I think he would beat up Erik.

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You guys are looking down at eric way too much. marquez will not beat up eric if he moves up to 135 that is very unlikely.

I'll remember all the names thinking eric is just a push over now and will get easily beaten by anyone just because the best in the featherweight took him out.

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Who said he's a pushover who will get beaten by anyone?

We're saying he's a fighter who has been thru a TON of brutal wars, who has absorbed a ton of punches, who has now lost 3 fights in a row (and 4 out of 5), and is moving up in weight to a division where he's fought once before and was completely dominated.

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I'll remember all the names thinking eric is just a push over now and will get easily beaten by anyone just because the best in the featherweight took him out.

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Add BoxingGorilla to your list of names to remember, Mr. Rain.

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yes sir ;)

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While it'll be impossible for me to not root for Morales (he's one of my favorite all-time fighters), my biggest worry is that he'll win this fight, and then fight next against an elite fighter who could really hurt him.

Say Morales wins (but still looks old), and then Marquez can't get a fight with either Pac or MAB, would Marquez take the big money and fight Morales at 135? Ya, he might. And I think he would beat up Erik.

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You guys are looking down at eric way too much. marquez will not beat up eric if he moves up to 135 that is very unlikely.

I'll remember all the names thinking eric is just a push over now and will get easily beaten by anyone just because the best in the featherweight took him out.

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Who said he's a pushover who will get beaten by anyone?

We're saying he's a fighter who has been thru a TON of brutal wars, who has absorbed a ton of punches, who has now lost 3 fights in a row (and 4 out of 5), and is moving up in weight to a division where he's fought once before and was completely dominated.

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his not the only one whos been thru a TON of brutal wars thats no excuse specially for great fighters such as eric. he lost 4 out of 5 thats true, very close one to mab. two knock out lost to pacman. and one bad night against raheem. he ain't done no shame in losing to two greatest fighters ever in the featherweight mab and pac, and have a bad night against a very complicated fighter raheem.

his last fight against pac, he caught pac with a lot of shots that would k.o other fighters.

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While it'll be impossible for me to not root for Morales (he's one of my favorite all-time fighters), my biggest worry is that he'll win this fight, and then fight next against an elite fighter who could really hurt him.

Say Morales wins (but still looks old), and then Marquez can't get a fight with either Pac or MAB, would Marquez take the big money and fight Morales at 135? Ya, he might. And I think he would beat up Erik.

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You guys are looking down at eric way too much. marquez will not beat up eric if he moves up to 135 that is very unlikely.

I'll remember all the names thinking eric is just a push over now and will get easily beaten by anyone just because the best in the featherweight took him out.

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Who said he's a pushover who will get beaten by anyone?

We're saying he's a fighter who has been thru a TON of brutal wars, who has absorbed a ton of punches, who has now lost 3 fights in a row (and 4 out of 5), and is moving up in weight to a division where he's fought once before and was completely dominated.

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his not the only one whos been thru a TON of brutal wars thats no excuse specially for great fighters such as eric. he lost 4 out of 5 thats true, very close one to mab. two knock out lost to pacman. and one bad night against raheem. he ain't done no shame in losing to two greatest fighters ever in the featherweight mab and pac, and have a bad night against a very complicated fighter raheem.
his last fight against pac, he caught pac with a lot of shots that would k.o other fighters.

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1. Name another active fighter who has been in as many brutal wars against top-notch opponents as Erik Morales.
2. No one said he should be ashamed of the way he's fought, or ashamed of the people he has lost to. You're making up arguments that don't exist.

If MAB bounced back from his knock out losses and gained back his excellent reputation, why can't EM do the same thing?

i think erik can win this one. MAB also has a list of tough and elite opponents just like of morales.

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If MAB bounced back from his knock out losses and gained back his excellent reputation, why can't EM do the same thing?

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yeah why MAB can do it and not morales?

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If MAB bounced back from his knock out losses and gained back his excellent reputation, why can't EM do the same thing?

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yeah why MAB can do it and not morales?

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There are differences. MAB's 2 KO losses to Jones were over a decade ago, early in his career (and it took him a few years to get over them). Morales is much older than Barrera was then.

Yes, Barrera also took the beating against Pac, but he has not been in the same number of wars as Morales. Morales has been in two epic trologies, and has also had wars against the likes of Zaragoza, Injin Chi, etc. Barrera made a big switch in his style before the Hamed fight to become more of a boxer. if Barrera never changed, he wouldn't still be an effective fighter today. Morales never did that, he has been a high-contact fighter his whole career.

Also, a BIG factor, is that Morales' body has been greatly worn down over the years because he has had to starve himself over and over again to make weight. That kills a fighter's body and makes a fighter older than he really is. Barrera never had the struggles with weight that Erik had.

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If MAB bounced back from his knock out losses and gained back his excellent reputation, why can't EM do the same thing?

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yeah why MAB can do it and not morales?

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There are differences. MAB's 2 KO losses to Jones were over a decade ago, early in his career (and it took him a few years to get over them). Morales is much older than Barrera was then.

Yes, Barrera also took the beating against Pac, but he has not been in the same number of wars as Morales. Morales has been in two epic trologies, and has also had wars against the likes of Zaragoza, Injin Chi, etc. Barrera made a big switch in his style before the Hamed fight to become more of a boxer. if Barrera never changed, he wouldn't still be an effective fighter today. Morales never did that, he has been a high-contact fighter his whole career.

Also, a BIG factor, is that Morales' body has been greatly worn down over the years because he has had to starve himself over and over again to make weight. That kills a fighter's body and makes a fighter older than he really is. Barrera never had the struggles with weight that Erik had.

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i think pacstraightleft was referring to MAB when he bounced back after his lost to pac and not to junior jones (or maybe both?).
you have very good points on MAB's adjusting his style while morales retains his and also with morales' weight problem.

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While it'll be impossible for me to not root for Morales (he's one of my favorite all-time fighters), my biggest worry is that he'll win this fight, and then fight next against an elite fighter who could really hurt him.

Say Morales wins (but still looks old), and then Marquez can't get a fight with either Pac or MAB, would Marquez take the big money and fight Morales at 135? Ya, he might. And I think he would beat up Erik.

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You guys are looking down at eric way too much. marquez will not beat up eric if he moves up to 135 that is very unlikely.

I'll remember all the names thinking eric is just a push over now and will get easily beaten by anyone just because the best in the featherweight took him out.

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Who said he's a pushover who will get beaten by anyone?

We're saying he's a fighter who has been thru a TON of brutal wars, who has absorbed a ton of punches, who has now lost 3 fights in a row (and 4 out of 5), and is moving up in weight to a division where he's fought once before and was completely dominated.

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his not the only one whos been thru a TON of brutal wars thats no excuse specially for great fighters such as eric. he lost 4 out of 5 thats true, very close one to mab. two knock out lost to pacman. and one bad night against raheem. he ain't done no shame in losing to two greatest fighters ever in the featherweight mab and pac, and have a bad night against a very complicated fighter raheem.
his last fight against pac, he caught pac with a lot of shots that would k.o other fighters.

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1. Name another active fighter who has been in as many brutal wars against top-notch opponents as Erik Morales.
2. No one said he should be ashamed of the way he's fought, or ashamed of the people he has lost to. You're making up arguments that don't exist.

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I'll name you two;

pacman( all of his fights are wars)

mabman( he invented wars in the ring)

jmm(you can even argue this guy is in a war since his encounter with pacman I guess war is addictive)

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If MAB bounced back from his knock out losses and gained back his excellent reputation, why can't EM do the same thing?

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yeah why MAB can do it and not morales?

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There are differences. MAB's 2 KO losses to Jones were over a decade ago, early in his career (and it took him a few years to get over them). Morales is much older than Barrera was then.

Yes, Barrera also took the beating against Pac, but he has not been in the same number of wars as Morales. Morales has been in two epic trologies, and has also had wars against the likes of Zaragoza, Injin Chi, etc. Barrera made a big switch in his style before the Hamed fight to become more of a boxer. if Barrera never changed, he wouldn't still be an effective fighter today. Morales never did that, he has been a high-contact fighter his whole career.

Also, a BIG factor, is that Morales' body has been greatly worn down over the years because he has had to starve himself over and over again to make weight. That kills a fighter's body and makes a fighter older than he really is. Barrera never had the struggles with weight that Erik had.

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wow now I know how smart you are sweetpea ;D what k.o loss are you talking about ???

the only man to k.o mab is pacman. I guess you didn't know that. proves how educated you are.

jones beat mab the first one was by DQ the second one was by UD.

take notes kid you just learn something, get back at me if you want to get schooled again ;D

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Why is Morales taking this fight! I love the guy but there is no need!

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I can only imagine its because Morales wants to win a belt and finish on a high. Diaz is being seen as the least difficult path to doing that.

I hope Morales wins and then retires...who knows though?! ???

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I hope Morales wins and then retires...who knows though?! ???

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If he loses then he might retire, but I guarantee if he wins he is going to do something dangerous. Casamayor has been having hell getting any fights and now his belt is gone...that wouldn't surprise me.

I'm almost rooting for Diaz to win this just because I don't want to see Eric fight on.

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If MAB bounced back from his knock out losses and gained back his excellent reputation, why can't EM do the same thing?

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yeah why MAB can do it and not morales?

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There are differences. MAB's 2 KO losses to Jones were over a decade ago, early in his career (and it took him a few years to get over them). Morales is much older than Barrera was then.

Yes, Barrera also took the beating against Pac, but he has not been in the same number of wars as Morales. Morales has been in two epic trologies, and has also had wars against the likes of Zaragoza, Injin Chi, etc. Barrera made a big switch in his style before the Hamed fight to become more of a boxer. if Barrera never changed, he wouldn't still be an effective fighter today. Morales never did that, he has been a high-contact fighter his whole career.

Also, a BIG factor, is that Morales' body has been greatly worn down over the years because he has had to starve himself over and over again to make weight. That kills a fighter's body and makes a fighter older than he really is. Barrera never had the struggles with weight that Erik had.

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wow now I know how smart you are sweetpea ;D what k.o loss are you talking about ???

the only man to k.o mab is pacman. I guess you didn't know that. proves how educated you are.

jones beat mab the first one was by DQ the second one was by UD.

take notes kid you just learn something, get back at me if you want to get schooled again ;D

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This post is so juvenile that it's not even worth a response.

However, I'll respond so I can use this as an opportunity to teach a valuable lesson:
Kids, don't ever say you "schooled" another poster when you don't even know the facts and are using boxrec to get all your info.

Example, Mr. Julius Rain thinks Barrera didn't get KO'd, even though anyone who watched the fight knows that Barrera (after getting knocked down once already) was trapped against the ropes, getting nailed with punches, and was out on his feet, when his cornerman ran into the ring to save him. Hence, it's listed as a DQ, because his cornerman ran into the ring instead of throwing in the towel from the corner.

Thanks for playing, Julius.

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I hope Morales wins and then retires...who knows though?! ???

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If he loses then he might retire, but I guarantee if he wins he is going to do something dangerous. Casamayor has been having hell getting any fights and now his belt is gone...that wouldn't surprise me.

I'm almost rooting for Diaz to win this just because I don't want to see Eric fight on.

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Yeah, I know exactly what you are saying. Its a tricky one, I only hope that he wins and retires. What he actually decides to do is something else. All we can do is hope and wait. :-\

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If MAB bounced back from his knock out losses and gained back his excellent reputation, why can't EM do the same thing?

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yeah why MAB can do it and not morales?

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There are differences. MAB's 2 KO losses to Jones were over a decade ago, early in his career (and it took him a few years to get over them). Morales is much older than Barrera was then.

Yes, Barrera also took the beating against Pac, but he has not been in the same number of wars as Morales. Morales has been in two epic trologies, and has also had wars against the likes of Zaragoza, Injin Chi, etc. Barrera made a big switch in his style before the Hamed fight to become more of a boxer. if Barrera never changed, he wouldn't still be an effective fighter today. Morales never did that, he has been a high-contact fighter his whole career.

Also, a BIG factor, is that Morales' body has been greatly worn down over the years because he has had to starve himself over and over again to make weight. That kills a fighter's body and makes a fighter older than he really is. Barrera never had the struggles with weight that Erik had.

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wow now I know how smart you are sweetpea ;D what k.o loss are you talking about ???

the only man to k.o mab is pacman. I guess you didn't know that. proves how educated you are.

jones beat mab the first one was by DQ the second one was by UD.

take notes kid you just learn something, get back at me if you want to get schooled again ;D

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This post is so juvenile that it's not even worth a response.

However, I'll respond so I can use this as an opportunity to teach a valuable lesson:
Kids, don't ever say you "schooled" another poster when you don't even know the facts and are using boxrec to get all your info.

Example, Mr. Julius Rain thinks Barrera didn't get KO'd, even though anyone who watched the fight knows that Barrera (after getting knocked down once already) was trapped against the ropes, getting nailed with punches, and was out on his feet, when his cornerman ran into the ring to save him. Hence, it's listed as a DQ, because his cornerman ran into the ring instead of throwing in the towel from the corner.

Thanks for playing, Julius.

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I grimaced when reading JuliusRain's post. And this reply gave me a chuckle :coolclick: ;D

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If MAB bounced back from his knock out losses and gained back his excellent reputation, why can't EM do the same thing?

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yeah why MAB can do it and not morales?

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There are differences. MAB's 2 KO losses to Jones were over a decade ago, early in his career (and it took him a few years to get over them). Morales is much older than Barrera was then.

Yes, Barrera also took the beating against Pac, but he has not been in the same number of wars as Morales. Morales has been in two epic trologies, and has also had wars against the likes of Zaragoza, Injin Chi, etc. Barrera made a big switch in his style before the Hamed fight to become more of a boxer. if Barrera never changed, he wouldn't still be an effective fighter today. Morales never did that, he has been a high-contact fighter his whole career.

Also, a BIG factor, is that Morales' body has been greatly worn down over the years because he has had to starve himself over and over again to make weight. That kills a fighter's body and makes a fighter older than he really is. Barrera never had the struggles with weight that Erik had.

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wow now I know how smart you are sweetpea ;D what k.o loss are you talking about ???

the only man to k.o mab is pacman. I guess you didn't know that. proves how educated you are.

jones beat mab the first one was by DQ the second one was by UD.

take notes kid you just learn something, get back at me if you want to get schooled again ;D

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This post is so juvenile that it's not even worth a response.

However, I'll respond so I can use this as an opportunity to teach a valuable lesson:
Kids, don't ever say you "schooled" another poster when you don't even know the facts and are using boxrec to get all your info.

Example, Mr. Julius Rain thinks Barrera didn't get KO'd, even though anyone who watched the fight knows that Barrera (after getting knocked down once already) was trapped against the ropes, getting nailed with punches, and was out on his feet, when his cornerman ran into the ring to save him. Hence, it's listed as a DQ, because his cornerman ran into the ring instead of throwing in the towel from the corner.

Thanks for playing, Julius.

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saved yourself once, I give you that fight mab was in trouble the first time but hey he wasn't out was he really?

did you forget to mention the second fight whats your excuse there buddy?

Hahaha, yes he really was out and had the corner just thrown the towell instead of running in then it would have been a KO.

And what are you even bringing up the second fight for? He never said anything about it nor is he making excuses for anything.

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Hahaha, yes he really was out and had the corner just thrown the towell instead of running in then it would have been a KO.

And what are you even bringing up the second fight for? He never said anything about it nor is he making excuses for anything.

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Actually, now that I look back at my first post, I did mistakenly say that Barrera had 2 KO losses to Jones, which is incorrect. The second fight was a decision.

However, this doesn't change the fact that Julius is in kindergarten.

People will always want to compare Eric and Marco because of their tremendous trilogy...but they are different fighters. Marco started as a brawler but evolved into a boxer/brawler in the latter part of his career...and switches between the 2 styles very smartly. Eric, even though he has great technical skill, allowed his pride to get him into too many wars where he could have boxed himself to victory. I love both fighters...but Eric, even though it was entertaining for us fans, wore himself out. Ultimately, you cannot blame him...he just had tremendous heart and pride. Marco on the other hand is as smart a fighter as anyone in the business. At this point...i just wish Morales would retire. He has nothing left to prove and in the last Pac fight...he looked like he had lost his fire.

I am rooting for EM. He is one classy dude. . . I think he still has 2- 5 years left in him. I think going to a higher weight class will do him good. His father thinks he still has it. He obviously is not doing it for the money. He is doing it for himself. He wants to prove to himself that he is not washed out as others portray him to be. If he loses then he himself will decide his fate. So I am calling all EM fans to come out and support him. It is in times like these that EM needs our support.