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i have no doubts that tito was a verey good fighter, but i am undecided yet as to if i think of him as great. he was onl beaten at middleweight, of whjich both fights he was made to look very ordinary. however against de la hoya, who must of gone mad after the 8th round i think he was being boxed out his skin. could tito of ever really beaten a great boxer is what im sayin i guess? de la hoya won theuir fight i think, and im not even sure if i think of himas great either, opinons?
Just because he struggled with a style doesn't make him less great just look at the Tito's resume that says it all he was beaten by two greats of our era Winky and Hopkins and how can you say Hitman wasn't great either he won Welterweight world championship and championships all the way up to Cruiserweight.Quote:
Originally Posted by oakleyno1
hitman?
I'd say so yes look at the fights he's been in an who he's fought, I think the only big fights that he could have had and didn't were Ike Quartey an SSM, and I think he would have beat Ike an maybe struggled with SSMs speed and lost a decision.
Hearns
yeah i kno it was just random lol
Lol sorry i thought you said Hitman hereQuote:
Originally Posted by oakleyno1
himas
My bad.
He could have been......IF HE DID NOT QUIT EVERYTIME HE LOST!!!!
He never quit.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
he means retiredQuote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
OOPS your right....
He Retired.... ::**
HE GOT BEAT UP AND HE QUIT!!!!!!
Maybe not during a fight but QUIT!! none the less
True greats come back and redeem themselves
He retired after Wright loss there was nothing left for him he was way above his natural weight and it takes alot out of your confidence i think it was best him retiring.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Pointless thread.Look at his resume. Look at his record. Look at who he lost to(2 LEGENDS). So what if he quit? He lost to 2 greats,it doesnt diminish his legacy,everyone deals with losses differently. Is Ksotya Tszyu legacy diminished because he quit v Hatton? Also,Tito was fighting at a weight he did not really belong to.
If you can look at his record and question whether he was a legend,you need to revise what your criteria is for legend. ::** ::** ??? ::** ??? ::** :-X :( >:mad >:mad
Pretty sweet explanation right there..Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
And among the above reasons there is always the arguement that when you take away what is really just a bunch of names on paper..
then what youn have is one of the most entertaining fighters in history
Either the hardest or second hardest hitting welterweight of all time..
a serious former p4p contender, multi weight champion great amatuer fighter
Frankly i just cant think of an arguement for him not bieng considered great..
The word great doesnt even do him justice..Hes a legend
He was defenatly one of the most entertaining fighters I ever seen in a ring. I think when we talk about being great we shouldn't try to dicect a fighter so much and try too hard to find holes. Just think to yourself, how would Tito have done in any era. And the answer is he would probably be top 3 every time. Give me the top 10 WW of all time and he probably have a good shot at beating each one of them at least 1 out of 3 times.
That to me equals being a great.
What does really great mean? Depends how you rank your fighters. In depends a lot on level of competition in your time.
In terms of how I think he would fare against other fighters who have fought at welterweight since the 70's, I'd say he has a decent chance to crack top 10.
Felix "TITOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOO" Trinidaaaaddd
then the crowd ( no exactly puerto ricans) Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito until the fight was over.
Great point.... but when Hitman lost, he gave it his ALL and more. When Tito lost, he was stuck in first or second gear.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING