After Castillo if he wins Hatton could then fight Judah this would be a good fight and then if he gets by Judah Cotto.
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After Castillo if he wins Hatton could then fight Judah this would be a good fight and then if he gets by Judah Cotto.
I hope it never happens mate, we'd just be going over Cotto's old ground, it already happened once with Carlos Maussa and the result was the same, only Ricky did a better job. It's be the same again.
Judah just got knocked out. Why would he be rewarded with a Hatton fight? And Judah should take well needed rest and comeback fresh in about 6 months. But he needs a rest after that tough fight. I know that Judah/Hatton is not a fight I want to see right now. Now if you say Cotto vs. Hatton I would be very excited. Especially if Hatton looks good next Sat. night. Judah fought a good fight with Cotto but so have alot of guys meaning why should Zab be rewarded right now. Judah is not going to be top notch again until he fights a top guy and beats him to get back in contention. But the fight he fought against Cotto was courageous I will give Zab that.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
Ive got alot more respect for Zab Judah after the Cotto fight he took alot of punishment and his uppercut was dangerous but he just lacks focus and I think Hatton would dominate him just like Cotto did and finish him off in the later rounds. I would much prefer to see Hatton fight either Cotto or Mayweather although I cant see either happening anytime soon.
Well if Zab gets a couple of warm up fights in first why should'nt he get a fight with Hatton Judah is still a big name did well against Mayweather and Cotto he is former undisputed Welterweight champ and former lightwelter champ they could sell this fight and if Zab is a little shot so was Tyszu and so is Castillo who has Hatton beat who is a young lively champ nobody.He should have been chasing Cotto and Mayweather but has'nt i think Hatton moved back down to lightwelter to get away from Mayweather.
I dont think Hatton ducks anyone, he said he wasnt ready to fight Mayweather a few years ago which you got to respect his honesty, If the Mayweather fight comes his way now I think he would definetly take it which I think he has already said in various interviews lately. If he did decide to fight Zab Judah all the haters would be saying he has chosen another shot fighter and a win would prove nothing!
Would be dangerous fight for Hatton with little reward.
Hatton isn't going up to 147 anymore, he doesn't have power up there and can't bully anyone, especially not like Cotto can
He has to though Starr because theres nothing left for him after Castillo fight except move up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starr
You have got to be kidding me right? :(Quote:
Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
Your comparing Maussa to Judah? Look how Collazo did against Hatton. I think that Judah has a easier time with Hatton than he would with Cotto because Hatton doesn't hit all that hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by yoitsdan
mate i wouldnt go as far as sayin hatton doesnt hit hard at all the man has 30 kos from 42 fights. hatton does hit hard its not concussive power single shot ko power its more sustained constant punching.i would say hes a harder hitter downstairs than up. as for judah and hatton i think hatton would win for the reason that hattons non stop pressure fightin would get to judah down the stretch judah does seem to start great but just doesnt sustain it. would love to see cotto hatton. couldnt pick a winner
Judah is done, how many chances can you give this guy? A fight with Hatton would be a huge mistake for Judah. Zab has never been the same since the KT debacle in 2001. He is now at the journeyman stage of his career and he may pick up a minor belt along the way but beating any of the top fighters out there at the moment is now just a dream.
As for Fatboy, it's Cotto, Margo etc if he wants the big $
Thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
Finally I read someone else say this. For a while I been saying Zabs career is done no ones belived me. I've been telling Sal, Starr and every Zab fan that hes done. Nobody believes me. :(
Looks like it's just you and I THIRDMAN that see this. :highfive:
not if it's at 147...if he beats Zab there then IMO it makes up for his poor showing vs CollazoQuote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
If Judah could make 140 (and I don't think he can), then I would pick him to beat Hatton.
If Hatton comes up to 147, he's not going to fight someone like Judah (who is barely in the Top 10), he's going to go after a big money fight.
Alone again!....It's so true that Zab is done, i can't see him winning another big fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
He will beat anyone ranked 5 through 20 but is he really going to win against Margo, Williams, Clottey,
Mosley, Cotto again? I don't think so. Hatton would overpower him in any match up.
Judah is a name but not a big name. Judah is seen as a good fighter with quick hands and decent power. But to say he is a hot commodity after losing to Baldomir and Tsyzu and Cotto would be stretching things. He still is on the losing end of most of his big fights. If he fights Margarito he will probably be on the losing end there also.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
I do, it would be a great fight but when Cotto fights with guys who like to pressure him going forward he fights beautifully backwards. Cotto like Hatton want fights to be action packed but if the other guy comes forward is like a Kid pitching a MLB player straight to the plate at 75mph. You can smell a hit or even a Home runQuote:
Originally Posted by paddy448
Hatton digs to the body on a consistent basis,no one likes that and Zab hasn't been great when under pressure. However,Hatton would be open to Judah's uppercuts and straight left hand. It's a question of whether Hatton could tke Judah's punches and after taking Kostya's,I think he could. I'd favour Hatton via stoppage. He'd be on the inside,roughing Judah up,banging to the body.
I don't see this fight being made though and I don't find it all that exciting for some reason.
Ya, I agree, there's no reason for this fight to be made, especially from Hatton's point of view. If Hatton wants to take on a welterweight, he's going to go for a bigger payday than Zab can provide.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
Zab will likely fight a few easy opponents that he can destroy, and then a year or so down the road, I could see him fighting another NY fighter, like Luis Callazo, maybe even Malignaggi if he ever gets to 147. Those fights would be marketable in NY and would be a good main event for an HBO Boxing After Dark card or a Showtime card.
Exactly bro. I don't see the top tier WW fighting Zab. Maybe the loser of the PW TONY fight may fight him at some point? I like the NY idea too bro,Zab v Paulie/Collazo would be good style match upsQuote:
Originally Posted by SweetPea
Zab will still be able to get fights and some decent paydays. I've never really thought about someone like the Williams/Margarito loser that you suggested, but that makes sense, I could see it happening. A third fight with Cory Spinks is also a possibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
Zab's got a big name, he can be in exciting fights when he has an agressive opponent, and he's from New York City, which always helps.
I kinda laugh at the people on the board who are saying "Zab should retire" or "Zab's done." I don't get how Zab should retire, just because he lost to Miguel Cotto. How many fighters out there can beat Cotto at 147? Not many.
Zab has one bad loss, to Baldomir. Other than that, he's lost to Tszyu, Cory Spinks (who he KO'd in the rematch), Floyd Mayweather, and Miguel Cotto. Those are some pretty big names.
And he didn't get embarrassed by either Floyd or Cotto, he was competitive with both of them.
Hatton will destroy Judah. Pointless fight.
Hatton didn't destroy either Collazo or Urango. Do you think both of those fighters are much better than Zab Judah?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hughesd
Yea,Cunningham,Spinks trainer,mentioned a third Zab fight. That wouldnt be too bad. I don't think Zab should retire but I do think he needs a new corner. If you look at his losses,he was favourite in 3(Spinks,KT,Baldo) of those fights and alot of people thought he would beat Cotto too. Personally,I think the loser of the Tony PW fight would beat up on him real bad too but it would be an oppertunity for him to re establsh himself as a serious contender.Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetPea
If I were Zab,I'd seriously re consider going back to 140,ifI could make the weight. His record at WW is very poor and although he has fought Cotto,Floyd Spinks,Baldo,those are either guys coming up from 140 OR the feather fisted Baldo. He has yet to face a big strong WW and if he does,he could get destroyed!
A cintron fight would also be a good match up.(Id favour Kermit) Zab still has plenty of options(Paulie/Luis,PW/Tyon loser,Cintron etc) so no need for him to retire
I really doubt Zab could get back down to 140. He was in great, great shape for the Cotto fight, and he still weighed 145. To get to 140, he'd have to be in perfect shape, and he'd still have to starve off several pounds.
I think he'd be drained at 140.