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John “The Quietman” Ruiz Planning Ring Return
Take the anonymously referred to fighter’s name out of the equation, as well as his awkward and unappreciated style, and go strictly by the facts:
§ The first responsibility of a boxer is to win and _____ has won 41 of 50 fights (7 losses, 1 draw and 1 no contest), including two WBA heavyweight titles and five world title fights against the likes of Evander Holyfield, Kirk Johnson, Hasim Rahman, Fred Oquendo and Andrew Golota.
§ In addition to judging a fighter by who he has beaten, many gauge success in the squared circle by who a fighter’s losses have been to and five of _____’s defeats have been at the hands, or gloves, of world champions Roy Jones, Jr., Evander Holyfield, Ruslan Chagaev, Nikolay Valuev, and world title contender David Tua.
§ _____ has beaten three world champions: Holyfield, Rahman and Tony Tucker.
§ Never one to back down from a fight, ________ fought all of the top heavyweights that would step in the ring with him since he turned pro in 1992. Lennox Lewis threw his title belt away rather than fight ___________, the WBA mandatory contender at the time, and Vitali Klitschko retired after saying nyet to numerous offers from _________ for a unification bout.
Like it or not, fans, fill in the aforementioned blanks with the worthy name of John “The Quietman” Ruiz (41-7-1, 28 KOs).
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John Ruiz is a fucking discrace to boxing. He is the worst ever world champ in any division and the fact he was ever a champ is a sad reflection on the state of boxing. fuck off John we dont want you back.
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Is Ruiz boring?? YES
Is he annoying?? YES
Woud I rather put my manhood on the counter and hit it with a meat tenderizer then have to endure watching his carrer boxset on DVD??? DAMN RIGHT IT WOULD BE LESS PAINFUL!!!!!!
point being though like ELGamo said...
the guy is legit....he has won and beaten some legit champions....
The Tua loss though great to see Jonny boy get starched like that was more of a flash KO and being caught by surprise then anything......IMO a rematch he would lull the Tuaman to sleep and the activity would put the crowd to sleep as well...It would be the first card to offer free coffee to all in attendence :D :D
IMO he won the Valuev fight.....
He may be as boring as this post but he knows how to win....it may be ugly but it pays his bills I am sure...
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Good post El Gamo. Still, Ruiz gets the middle finger. :cwm21:
I just want add...
If Ruiz was my uncle or some other relation I would be proud of him and gladly walk the streets of town with him.
Since I have no personal connection to him I am free to discredit the poor guy.
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Take the anonymously referred to fighter’s name out of the equation, as well as his awkward and unappreciated style, and go strictly by the facts:
§ The first responsibility of a boxer is to win and _____ has won 41 of 50 fights (7 losses, 1 draw and 1 no contest), including two WBA heavyweight titles and five world title fights against the likes of Evander Holyfield, Kirk Johnson, Hasim Rahman, Fred Oquendo and Andrew Golota.
§ In addition to judging a fighter by who he has beaten, many gauge success in the squared circle by who a fighter’s losses have been to and five of _____’s defeats have been at the hands, or gloves, of world champions Roy Jones, Jr., Evander Holyfield, Ruslan Chagaev, Nikolay Valuev, and world title contender David Tua.
§ _____ has beaten three world champions: Holyfield, Rahman and Tony Tucker.
§ Never one to back down from a fight, ________ fought all of the top heavyweights that would step in the ring with him since he turned pro in 1992. Lennox Lewis threw his title belt away rather than fight ___________, the WBA mandatory contender at the time, and Vitali Klitschko retired after saying nyet to numerous offers from _________ for a unification bout.
Like it or not, fans, fill in the aforementioned blanks with the worthy name of John “The Quietman” Ruiz (41-7-1, 28 KOs).
I am not excited about him coming back at all. His wins are not dominant ever but borderline decisions. He does not put any exclamation on any fights he has. To me he is far from great, and he gave two middleweights the chance to win a heavyweight title -( in a reign of a real champion like Tyson or Holmes that would not have been possible). Can you imagine Hagler moving up to fight Holmes and winning?
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John quiet man Ruiz planning a return ? Wot and he never told us lol :):):):):) needs to speak up lol
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The only way I would want to see him fight is if he fought Kimbo Slice ...LOL
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Ruiz won some shady decisions and fought guys who didn't deserve shots at the WBA belt and he quits any time he is beaten.....he's a pussy
GO DO MMA JOHN YOU CAN HUG IT OUT THERE!
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His style is ugly. More of that punch once and hold cr*p that seems to becoming more popular these days.
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Biggest groin in boxing,extends right up to his nipples ;D
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His fight was James Toney was pretty entertaining.
I hope he does ok. I feel sorry for him really, gets so much hate but as El Gamo says his record matches up to pretty much anyone else out there right now.
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he's aggravating as all hell,
but he did get robbed by valuev...
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Ruiz needs to stop fighting right now if not yesterday. His style of boxing makes for terrible fights and is a shining example of what is dragging the sport down. Referees need to start deducting points for extreme number of clinches in one round.
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Return?........... He left? :P
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I was reading an article on John Ruiz and i found out why his nickname is the "quiet man"
DO YOU GUYS KNOW ???????????????................................... .........its because he is so fekking boring that he sends all the fight fans to sleep in the crowd so he has to be fekking Quiet ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Originally Posted by J_Undisputed
Return?........... He left? :P
Exactly.. Almost like it doesn't matter if he is boxing or not. In my mind he did not add much to the boxing scene. He was such a weak champion that two former middleweights fought him to win a piece of the heavyweight title.
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You people need to give John Ruiz some slack. He may not be an exciting fighterbut hei can havee zome exsitingmomentz ansenme... sinen3ion zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
:cwm33:
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
You people need to give John Ruiz some slack. He may not be an exciting fighterbut hei can havee zome exsitingmomentz ansenme... sinen3ion zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
:cwm33:
;D
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
You people need to give John Ruiz some slack. He may not be an exciting fighterbut hei can havee zome exsitingmomentz ansenme... sinen3ion zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
:cwm33:
;D
Maybe you are right. I guess he did the best he could. But if there was one fighter who I would have rather not seen fight ever it was Ruiz.
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Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
You people need to give John Ruiz some slack. He may not be an exciting fighterbut hei can havee zome exsitingmomentz ansenme... sinen3ion zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
:cwm33:
;D
Maybe you are right. I guess he did the best he could. But if there was one fighter who I would have rather not seen fight ever it was Ruiz.
You should've watched the bouts i watched of his... Beginning to end.. and i haven't seen him "fight" yet. He hugged, he groped, he grabbed his crotch and fell to his knees.. but if he fought somewhere in between, i guess i missed it.
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
John Ruiz is a fucking discrace to boxing. He is the worst ever world champ in any division and the fact he was ever a champ is a sad reflection on the state of boxing. fuck off John we dont want you back.
Amen to that.
Its not even the boring style that pisses me off the most, Its the fact that he runs his mouth like he's the best boxer ever. He's the first mexican heavyweight champ (wether he was born there or not i dunno but nonetheless thats what hes dubbed). Basically he's the worlds only fat mexican athlete. He's total garbage and if he would happen to be killed in a very public, and very brutal way (ala dimebag darrel, fucking ohio) i would not be too overly upset. He's boring, the fact that he had a belt shows just how bad the rest of the jobbers in the division were and just how washed up holyfield was/is.
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
John Ruiz is a F****** discrace to boxing. He is the worst ever world champ in any division and the fact he was ever a champ is a sad reflection on the state of boxing. F*** off John we dont want you back.
Amen to that.
Its not even the boring style that isse sme off the most, Its the fact that he runs his mouth like he's the best boxer ever. He's the first mexican heavyweight champ (wether he was born there or not i dunno but nonetheless thats what hes dubbed). Basically he's the worlds only fat mexican athlete. He's total garbage and if he would happen to be killed in a very public, and very brutal way (ala dimebag darrel, F****** ohio) i would not be too overly upset. He's boring, the fact that he had a belt shows just how bad the rest of the jobbers in the division were and just how washed up holyfield was/is.
Ohmigod! I can't believe I just read all this.
Punisher, I'm gonna make believe you didn't really mean all that garbage you just wrote. By the way, Ruiz is of Puerto Rican descent, not Mexican (not that we want to claim him, mind you). And yes, he's boring as watching grass grow. Yes, I'd rather get a root canal with no novocaine before watching another one of his fights. Yes, I'd like to see him retire.... he has nothing to offer boxing in terms of entertainment value. But let's not get morbid on the guy.
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
John Ruiz is a F****** discrace to boxing. He is the worst ever world champ in any division and the fact he was ever a champ is a sad reflection on the state of boxing. F*** off John we dont want you back.
Amen to that.
Its not even the boring style that pisses me off the most, Its the fact that he runs his mouth like he's the best boxer ever. He's the first mexican heavyweight champ (wether he was born there or not i dunno but nonetheless thats what hes dubbed). Basically he's the worlds only fat mexican athlete. He's total garbage and if he would happen to be killed in a very public, and very brutal way (ala dimebag darrel, F****** ohio) i would not be too overly upset. He's boring, the fact that he had a belt shows just how bad the rest of the jobbers in the division were and just how washed up holyfield was/is.
I think the quiet man was a very good boxer. he was just unlucky that he never had speed. the devastting kayo from tua always stuck in his mind too...
OK im a big ruiz fan so maybe im bias:p but there were a shit load worse champs the John, valuev sould of never been champ coz ruiz fucking beat him, he just got screwed!
I think alot of people underrated ruiz for his bozing skills cozhe lacked speed and would use the punch and rgab tactic to much. he was a good boxer!
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
John Ruiz is a F****** discrace to boxing. He is the worst ever world champ in any division and the fact he was ever a champ is a sad reflection on the state of boxing. F*** off John we dont want you back.
Amen to that.
Its not even the boring style that isse sme off the most, Its the fact that he runs his mouth like he's the best boxer ever. He's the first mexican heavyweight champ (wether he was born there or not i dunno but nonetheless thats what hes dubbed). Basically he's the worlds only fat mexican athlete. He's total garbage and if he would happen to be killed in a very public, and very brutal way (ala dimebag darrel, F****** ohio) i would not be too overly upset. He's boring, the fact that he had a belt shows just how bad the rest of the jobbers in the division were and just how washed up holyfield was/is.
Ohmigod! I can't believe I just read all this.
Punisher, I'm gonna make believe you didn't really mean all that garbage you just wrote. By the way, Ruiz is of Puerto Rican descent, not Mexican (not that we want to claim him, mind you). And yes, he's boring as watching grass grow. Yes, I'd rather get a root canal with no novocaine before watching another one of his fights. Yes, I'd like to see him retire.... he has nothing to offer boxing in terms of entertainment value. But let's not get morbid on the guy.
Ok maybe they said first hispanic heavyweight champo but w/e. Did you see him the last time he was on friday night fights? "If we have a rematch and toney isn't on steroids i'll beat him" He's a fucking joke. Him returning will set the sport back 30 years. Don't worry im not gonna go after him, there's always the clip of tua blasting him out in 20 seconds. ;D. If he does return i wanna see him in the ring with Wlad or Vitali, that should put an end to his comeback.
Punching and grabing is not boxing. Clinching 30 times a round should result in a dq.
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He is the perfect example of why the heavyweight division fell off so much. He gets paid millions of dollars to hold on for 12 rounds an eek out a decision. Holding doesn't take skill. Its boring to watch and even having him in the division discredits boxing. He's a bum that needs to stay retired because hes trash.
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I can not agree with john Ruiz being the worst World titlist as someone said earlier int he post.
i think once you see the great Mzonke Fana the it is game over. Sparked by Barerra in 2.
As for Ruiz love him or hate him he did have some decent wins on his record but lets be honest. He will be remembered for losing to somebody who came up from middleweight and getting Ko'd by Tua in 19 seconds.
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
John Ruiz is a F****** discrace to boxing. He is the worst ever world champ in any division and the fact he was ever a champ is a sad reflection on the state of boxing. F*** off John we dont want you back.
Amen to that.
Its not even the boring style that isse sme off the most, Its the fact that he runs his mouth like he's the best boxer ever. He's the first mexican heavyweight champ (wether he was born there or not i dunno but nonetheless thats what hes dubbed). Basically he's the worlds only fat mexican athlete. He's total garbage and if he would happen to be killed in a very public, and very brutal way (ala dimebag darrel, F****** ohio) i would not be too overly upset. He's boring, the fact that he had a belt shows just how bad the rest of the jobbers in the division were and just how washed up holyfield was/is.
Ohmigod! I can't believe I just read all this.
Punisher, I'm gonna make believe you didn't really mean all that garbage you just wrote. By the way, Ruiz is of Puerto Rican descent, not Mexican (not that we want to claim him, mind you). And yes, he's boring as watching grass grow. Yes, I'd rather get a root canal with no novocaine before watching another one of his fights. Yes, I'd like to see him retire.... he has nothing to offer boxing in terms of entertainment value. But let's not get morbid on the guy.
Ok maybe they said first hispanic heavyweight champo but w/e. Did you see him the last time he was on friday night fights? "If we have a rematch and toney isn't on steroids i'll beat him" He's a F****** joke. Him returning will set the sport back 30 years. Don't worry im not gonna go after him, there's always the clip of tua blasting him out in 20 seconds. ;D. If he does return i wanna see him in the ring with Wlad or Vitali, that should put an end to his comeback.
Punching and grabing is not boxing. Clinching 30 times a round should result in a dq.
I'm DEFINITELY not gonna defend him. And yeah, if he's really gonna return, I'd like to see him against someone who's not gonna let him clinch and hold his way to a horrifyingly boring decision. Someone like Wlad would force him to KTFO or be KTFO, more likely the latter.
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
Him returning will set the sport back 30 years.
Right, sure it will.
Some a yous get a bit to excited about things to have meaningful conversations. Ruiz isn't fun to watch in the ring but it's hard in the midst of such overstatement and hyperbole to find value in some of these comments.
The first post could have stood on its own, and this would have been a good thread. Down hill from there.
In fact, it's going to set Saddo's Boxing forum back 30 years!
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Take the anonymously referred to fighter’s name out of the equation, as well as his awkward and unappreciated style, and go strictly by the facts:
§ The first responsibility of a boxer is to win and _____ has won 41 of 50 fights (7 losses, 1 draw and 1 no contest), including two WBA heavyweight titles and five world title fights against the likes of Evander Holyfield, Kirk Johnson, Hasim Rahman, Fred Oquendo and Andrew Golota.
§ In addition to judging a fighter by who he has beaten, many gauge success in the squared circle by who a fighter’s losses have been to and five of _____’s defeats have been at the hands, or gloves, of world champions Roy Jones, Jr., Evander Holyfield, Ruslan Chagaev, Nikolay Valuev, and world title contender David Tua.
§ _____ has beaten three world champions: Holyfield, Rahman and Tony Tucker.
§ Never one to back down from a fight, ________ fought all of the top heavyweights that would step in the ring with him since he turned pro in 1992. Lennox Lewis threw his title belt away rather than fight ___________, the WBA mandatory contender at the time, and Vitali Klitschko retired after saying nyet to numerous offers from _________ for a unification bout.
Like it or not, fans, fill in the aforementioned blanks with the worthy name of John “The Quietman” Ruiz (41-7-1, 28 KOs).
He is a very under rated fighter, But boring to watch wrestle
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I'm glad he's back because his fights are less dangerous than sleeping pills and I can use the rest these days.
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Originally Posted by NuthaPug
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
Him returning will set the sport back 30 years.
Right, sure it will.
Some a yous get a bit to excited about things to have meaningful conversations. Ruiz isn't fun to watch in the ring but it's hard in the midst of such overstatement and hyperbole to find value in some of these comments.
The first post could have stood on its own, and this would have been a good thread. Down hill from there.
In fact, it's going to set Saddo's Boxing forum back 30 years!
Whats the biggest complaint about heavyweights today? They're outta shape, they hold too much, and they put on boring fights. Well who brings all that in one convienent package? Exactly. Its time to get rid of all these washed up and sloppy heavyweights and bring in some new people.
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Take the anonymously referred to fighter’s name out of the equation, as well as his awkward and unappreciated style, and go strictly by the facts:
§  The first responsibility of a boxer is to win and _____ has won 41 of 50 fights (7 losses, 1 draw and 1 no contest), including two WBA heavyweight titles and five world title fights against the likes of Evander Holyfield, Kirk Johnson, Hasim Rahman, Fred Oquendo and Andrew Golota.
§  In addition to judging a fighter by who he has beaten, many gauge success in the squared circle by who a fighter’s losses have been to and five of _____’s defeats have been at the hands, or gloves, of world champions Roy Jones, Jr., Evander Holyfield, Ruslan Chagaev, Nikolay Valuev, and world title contender David Tua.
§  _____ has beaten three world champions: Holyfield, Rahman and Tony Tucker.
§  Never one to back down from a fight, ________ fought all of the top heavyweights that would step in the ring with him since he turned pro in 1992. Lennox Lewis threw his title belt away rather than fight ___________, the WBA mandatory contender at the time, and Vitali Klitschko retired after saying nyet to numerous offers from _________ for a unification bout.
Like it or not, fans, fill in the aforementioned blanks with the worthy name of John “The Quietman” Ruiz (41-7-1, 28 KOs).
Speaking of the first post, did you really just say that Lennox and Vitali ducked him? That's absolute crap. Vitali and Lennox fought each other but they were both "afraid" of ruiz?  ::** Holyfield was a shell of his former self and oquendo and tua never became anything aside from "People who beat the amazing john ruiz". He beat a washed up holyfield, Rahman who is just as overrated as ruiz is, and Tony tucker. He doesn't have a really solid win on his record and his only great competition was people who were only hyped up for beating him (aside from jones of course).
I'm just saying, coming out with accusations that vitali and lennox ducked him are a bit absurd.
Lennox: Hmm i've fought a 6'7 240 pound guy with the best active ko ratio in the division but i'm afraid to fight a 6'4 guy with a terrible ko ratio that has been beaten by chumps, a washed up evander and roy jones jr.
Vitali: I've just fought an all time great but im afraid of a guy whose gonna try to hold me but can't because im bigger than him.
Sorry doesn't add up to me at all.
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Take the anonymously referred to fighter’s name out of the equation, as well as his awkward and unappreciated style, and go strictly by the facts:
§ The first responsibility of a boxer is to win and _____ has won 41 of 50 fights (7 losses, 1 draw and 1 no contest), including two WBA heavyweight titles and five world title fights against the likes of Evander Holyfield, Kirk Johnson, Hasim Rahman, Fred Oquendo and Andrew Golota.
§ In addition to judging a fighter by who he has beaten, many gauge success in the squared circle by who a fighter’s losses have been to and five of _____’s defeats have been at the hands, or gloves, of world champions Roy Jones, Jr., Evander Holyfield, Ruslan Chagaev, Nikolay Valuev, and world title contender David Tua.
§ _____ has beaten three world champions: Holyfield, Rahman and Tony Tucker.
§ Never one to back down from a fight, ________ fought all of the top heavyweights that would step in the ring with him since he turned pro in 1992. Lennox Lewis threw his title belt away rather than fight ___________, the WBA mandatory contender at the time, and Vitali Klitschko retired after saying nyet to numerous offers from _________ for a unification bout.
Like it or not, fans, fill in the aforementioned blanks with the worthy name of John “The Quietman” Ruiz (41-7-1, 28 KOs).
Speaking of the first post, did you really just say that Lennox and Vitali ducked him? That's absolute crap. Vitali and Lennox fought each other but they were both "afraid" of ruiz? ::** Holyfield was a shell of his former self and oquendo and tua never became anything aside from "People who beat the amazing john ruiz". He beat a washed up holyfield, Rahman who is just as overrated as ruiz is, and Tony tucker. He doesn't have a really solid win on his record and his only great competition was people who were only hyped up for beating him (aside from jones of course).
I'm just saying, coming out with accusations that vitali and lennox ducked him are a bit absurd.
Lennox: Hmm i've fought a 6'7 240 pound guy with the best active ko ratio in the division but i'm afraid to fight a 6'4 guy with a terrible ko ratio that has been beaten by chumps, a washed up evander and roy jones jr.
Vitali: I've just fought an all time great but im afraid of a guy whose gonna try to hold me but can't because im bigger than him.
Sorry doesn't add up to me at all.
I agree with what you said man,I didn't write that,I just posted it for discussion.
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Take the anonymously referred to fighter’s name out of the equation, as well as his awkward and unappreciated style, and go strictly by the facts:
§ The first responsibility of a boxer is to win and _____ has won 41 of 50 fights (7 losses, 1 draw and 1 no contest), including two WBA heavyweight titles and five world title fights against the likes of Evander Holyfield, Kirk Johnson, Hasim Rahman, Fred Oquendo and Andrew Golota.
§ In addition to judging a fighter by who he has beaten, many gauge success in the squared circle by who a fighter’s losses have been to and five of _____’s defeats have been at the hands, or gloves, of world champions Roy Jones, Jr., Evander Holyfield, Ruslan Chagaev, Nikolay Valuev, and world title contender David Tua.
§ _____ has beaten three world champions: Holyfield, Rahman and Tony Tucker.
§ Never one to back down from a fight, ________ fought all of the top heavyweights that would step in the ring with him since he turned pro in 1992. Lennox Lewis threw his title belt away rather than fight ___________, the WBA mandatory contender at the time, and Vitali Klitschko retired after saying nyet to numerous offers from _________ for a unification bout.
Like it or not, fans, fill in the aforementioned blanks with the worthy name of John “The Quietman” Ruiz (41-7-1, 28 KOs).
Speaking of the first post, did you really just say that Lennox and Vitali ducked him? That's absolute crap. Vitali and Lennox fought each other but they were both "afraid" of ruiz? ::** Holyfield was a shell of his former self and oquendo and tua never became anything aside from "People who beat the amazing john ruiz". He beat a washed up holyfield, Rahman who is just as overrated as ruiz is, and Tony tucker. He doesn't have a really solid win on his record and his only great competition was people who were only hyped up for beating him (aside from jones of course).
I'm just saying, coming out with accusations that vitali and lennox ducked him are a bit absurd.
Lennox: Hmm i've fought a 6'7 240 pound guy with the best active ko ratio in the division but i'm afraid to fight a 6'4 guy with a terrible ko ratio that has been beaten by chumps, a washed up evander and roy jones jr.
Vitali: I've just fought an all time great but im afraid of a guy whose gonna try to hold me but can't because im bigger than him.
Sorry doesn't add up to me at all.
I agree with what you said man,I didn't write that,I just posted it for discussion.
Most of the fighters of this era are hard to make a case for greatness. Look at the top guys right now and for the past few years:
Ruiz: He put tua, oquendo, and valuev on the map simply because he beat a washed up holyfield.
Rahman: Had a freak ko against lewis because lewis took him lightly.
Byrd: Beat vitali (in the most unimagineable way possible) and a washed up holyfield.
Wlad: Has a suspect chin and some ponderous losses
Vitali: fought lewis and ko'd pretty much everything in his path (as of right now the only active one you can make a case for if he stays around for awhile)
Lewis: fought holyfield (maybe washed up), bowe, Tyson and avenged all his losses. Outside of lennox you gotta reach to make a case for somebody in the past 7 years.
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Originally Posted by Just a Boxing Fan
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Take the anonymously referred to fighter’s name out of the equation, as well as his awkward and unappreciated style, and go strictly by the facts:
§ The first responsibility of a boxer is to win and _____ has won 41 of 50 fights (7 losses, 1 draw and 1 no contest), including two WBA heavyweight titles and five world title fights against the likes of Evander Holyfield, Kirk Johnson, Hasim Rahman, Fred Oquendo and Andrew Golota.
§ In addition to judging a fighter by who he has beaten, many gauge success in the squared circle by who a fighter’s losses have been to and five of _____’s defeats have been at the hands, or gloves, of world champions Roy Jones, Jr., Evander Holyfield, Ruslan Chagaev, Nikolay Valuev, and world title contender David Tua.
§ _____ has beaten three world champions: Holyfield, Rahman and Tony Tucker.
§ Never one to back down from a fight, ________ fought all of the top heavyweights that would step in the ring with him since he turned pro in 1992. Lennox Lewis threw his title belt away rather than fight ___________, the WBA mandatory contender at the time, and Vitali Klitschko retired after saying nyet to numerous offers from _________ for a unification bout.
Like it or not, fans, fill in the aforementioned blanks with the worthy name of John “The Quietman” Ruiz (41-7-1, 28 KOs).
He is a very under rated fighter, But boring to watch wrestle
I think he is overrated. He can beat an aged Holyfield but he never really fought the top top guys like Lennox who could punch and when he did fight a puncher he was knocked out in one round.. Lennox would have demolished him in 2 rounds. The only reason Jones and Toney fought him was because he was the weakest champion. Underated no. Maybe he was underrated as far as most guys thought he could easily be beaten, but he was overrated in that he was champion. Ruiz being champion means that the division is weak. Very weak.
