Tito may be Back!!!

A local newspaper in Puerto Rico indicated that Tito was meeting last night with Don King in a Hotel to discuss a possible come back. Tito had expressed that he is retired, but that he may pause his retirement to fight De La Hoya. Today's newspaper said that Trinidad felt happy with the meeting and that he may be considering fighting again. But in addition to De La Hoya it looks like Don King mentioned names such as RJJ, Mayweather and winner of Hopkins-Wright. I am a BIG! Tito fan and I am having some mixed feelings with these news. One part is asking Tito to remain in the retirement and continue with a happy family life letting us remember his legacy and all his great battles. But, to be honest the other part is claiming for those big emotions and the Titomania one more time!!!! Any comments on a Trinidad come back?

I would love it!!


You see i never discovered tito while he was in his prime so its good in one way..

I suppose as long as he fights the best win or loose he will still be great ..Such as he already is due to winky and bhop bieng great great fighters the only to have beaten him!

so really as long as he is fighting oscar, winky or bernard he cant go too far wrong..As long as he is safe

At the same time..He needs big legacy building fights..Rephrase..He doesnt need them..

But they are the ones he should take..

Making a second attempt at a career is not the path..

He shouldnt fight contenders and paper champs..

Keep fighting the p4p greats

A lot of time has gone by, and my thoughts of a Tito comeback have almost gone with them. I have mixed feelings too. If Tito's coming back for the wrong reasons, or with anything less than 100% motivation, then he should stay retired. If he's coming back for the right reasons.... then by all means. The only fight I would see on his horizon would be a rematch with De La Hoya. If that should happen, Tito should avoid having Oscar set the conditions, 'cause Oscar would most certainly want to have the fight at a weight most convenient for HIM. If Tito and Oscar were to fight again, it should be at either 154, 160, or somewhere in between.

sorry but i don't think that Tito beat Oscar the first time, and i doubt he'll do it the next if it ever does happen, De La Hoya IMO will win the rematch easy and then Trinidad will once again retire

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

sorry but i don't think that Tito beat Oscar the first time, and i doubt he'll do it the next if it ever does happen, De La Hoya IMO will win the rematch easy and then Trinidad will once again retire

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Oscar will want to rectify all that blatant running he did the first time. And when he decides to go for it, he'll have a nice surprise waiting for him. At a catch-weight between 154 and 160, Tito knocks him out. Then we'll be attending Oscar's retirement party.

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I think if anything tito has more chance of beating him this time then he did then..

Which he did.. Didnt beat him..He outpointed him ;)

But oscar doesnt have it in him to box like he did back then.. No way

And if oscar was to fight him he would have to fight at 160 as tito wont take a fight at any other weight

All this is better for tito then oscar

you're huffing if you think Tito won the first fight, it's simple math how the hell do you win a 12 rnd fight when you don't score a knockdown there are no point deductions on your opponant and you basically lose 8 of the first 9 rnds, it's impossible, and yet i was nice enough to say that Tito could have MAYBE earned a draw nothing more, and what the hell with Oscar doesn't have it in him, he just lost by SD to the undefeated #1 p4p fighter in the world, and it was a very close SD, only a one round SD to be exact, Trinidad lost to a former jr. middleweight in his second fight at middleweight i believe, so yea, Trinidad is already figured out and unless he adds some new tricks (which he wont, por que papi no se lo dijo), so IMO he has no chance against the man that basically opened up everyones eyes and gave them a peek at the blue prints in beating Tito, he's been out since 2004 and there is no way in hell he's gonna be the Tito of old and put a whooping on a man that already knows and basically has already beat him, Trinidad hits harder and has a bit better stamina, Oscar is faster, more skilled, better defence, and has a hell o a lot better chin than Tito, if anything I think that Tito will be in for a big surprise and get school yet again getting stopped in the later rounds 9 or 10 and then retiring with another dominant loss on his record (won one round against B-Hop, and well a HUGE shutout with a charity round in round twelve, i had Winky beating him 120-108).

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

sorry but i don't think that Tito beat Oscar the first time, and i doubt he'll do it the next if it ever does happen, De La Hoya IMO will win the rematch easy and then Trinidad will once again retire

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Oscar has not beaten a really great fighter yet, so this way he can do it he thinks. Although Tito is inactive. I really do not care much to see Tito fight anymore. I thought he looked terrible against Wright.

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

you're huffing if you think Tito won the first fight, it's simple math how the hell do you win a 12 rnd fight when you don't score a knockdown there are no point deductions on your opponant and you basically lose 8 of the first 9 rnds, it's impossible, and yet i was nice enough to say that Tito could have MAYBE earned a draw nothing more, and what the hell with Oscar doesn't have it in him, he just lost by SD to the undefeated #1 p4p fighter in the world, and it was a very close SD, only a one round SD to be exact, Trinidad lost to a former jr. middleweight in his second fight at middleweight i believe, so yea, Trinidad is already figured out and unless he adds some new tricks (which he wont, por que papi no se lo dijo), so IMO he has no chance against the man that basically opened up everyones eyes and gave them a peek at the blue prints in beating Tito, he's been out since 2004 and there is no way in hell he's gonna be the Tito of old and put a whooping on a man that already knows and basically has already beat him, Trinidad hits harder and has a bit better stamina, Oscar is faster, more skilled, better defence, and has a hell o a lot better chin than Tito, if anything I think that Tito will be in for a big surprise and get school yet again getting stopped in the later rounds 9 or 10 and then retiring with another dominant loss on his record (won one round against B-Hop, and well a HUGE shutout with a charity round in round twelve, i had Winky beating him 120-108).

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Lol..Ok then put it this way..

As for The oscar fight..
Care to tell me how Even Lederman scored the fight a draw?

Just because he looked better for the first 8 rounds doesnt mean he won all the rounds.. I gave about two early rounds to trinidad for bieng the busier fighter and chasing oscar..He was making tito miss alot early but he wasnt working enough to take all the rounds..

Ive said it before and i'll say it again..Oscar showed that on that night he COULD have beaten tito pretty easy.. But he didnt.. He gave it away

2..If you put down titos performance against wright then you havent thought very deep into your logic..

For one tito is a natural welterweight..Which of course is lighter then light middleweight..
And winky is a full middleweight ..No question..He fills out into the weight easily..Hes got stocky body and long wide arms..

And failing that explanation.. If you say winky is 154 Pounder.. Then tito is a 147 pounder..
So that logic is irrelevant..

And if you would care to divulge how you managed to think oscar has so much better of a chin then tito please say!! Lol

Cos i want to hear this..

Lets see..Oscar has been stopped once... Tito also once..By who..Bernard hopkins..
Hopkins was so much more affective in the tito fight and broke tito down and it took twelve rounds and he was still up at nine..

Oscar was sent down for the full ten on a body shot in a fight that wasnt particularly masterful on either part and there was no real damage done to either fighter until that body shot..

Shall we continue?

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

it's simple math how the hell do you win a 12 rnd fight when you don't score a knockdown there are no point deductions on your opponant and you basically lose 8 of the first 9 rnds, it's impossible.

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My friend the math does not fail, but the human eye does. I encourage you to watch the fight again and watch closely the first rounds and re-think if De La Hoya won all 8 rounds. And, watch the fight in details not just the combos at the end of rounds that De La Hoya had, watch the complete rounds (each of 3 minutes). And yes, it was a dammed closed fight. I have to say that I was expecting a lot more action in that fight, but De La Hoya running did not make it possible. I see very good opportunities for a totally different fight from De La Hoya who had expressed that he wants to make fights like Barrera - Morales instead of a cat and mouse game.

ok jones will kill him even now, hopkins will, wright will, delahoya will win, i dont want him to fight anyone of those guys, i want him and cotto

COTTO VS TITO
The title could be

puerto rican heros collide

or the pride of puerto rico or whose the puerto rican hero

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Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

sorry but i don't think that Tito beat Oscar the first time, and i doubt he'll do it the next if it ever does happen, De La Hoya IMO will win the rematch easy and then Trinidad will once again retire

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Oscar has not beaten a really great fighter yet, so this way he can do it he thinks. Although Tito is inactive. I really do not care much to see Tito fight anymore. I thought he looked terrible against Wright.

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Wright made the fight of his life and we have to give all the credit to him. If I was in Trinidad's team, one thing I would do different is not to accept Jay Nady as a referee in any other fight. This may be a wrong appreciation from my part, but I think Nady is biased against Trinidad. In Wright fight he was penalizing Tito due to low blows that I did not appreciate low. This made that Trinidad stopped all body punching, and Tito was trying to hit there very hard at the beginning. And, we know the rest of the story, all Wright. Also look at Vargas fight, Nady sometimes looked biased in favor of Vargas. De La Hoya I think will try to have a battle instead of a tactical fight.

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ok jones will kill him even now, hopkins will, wright will, delahoya will win, i dont want him to fight anyone of those guys, i want him and cotto

COTTO VS TITO
The title could be

puerto rican heros collide

or the pride of puerto rico or whose the puerto rican hero

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None of those guys 'Kill' him..

I think he could beat them all with the right game plan

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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB

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Originally Posted by the phenom

ok jones will kill him even now, hopkins will, wright will, delahoya will win, i dont want him to fight anyone of those guys, i want him and cotto

COTTO VS TITO
The title could be

puerto rican heros collide

or the pride of puerto rico or whose the puerto rican hero

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None of those guys 'Kill' him..

I think he could beat them all with the right game plan

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Im sorry but no he wouldn't.

Only one on the list he would beat is Oscar because Jones can't make Middleweight anymore and i don't like the sound of him facing winner of Wright vs Hopkins either.

A Delahoya rematch would be big money no matter what the result.

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Originally Posted by Puerto Rican Punch

A local newspaper in Puerto Rico indicated that Tito was meeting last night with Don King in a Hotel to discuss a possible come back. Tito had expressed that he is retired, but that he may pause his retirement to fight De La Hoya. Today's newspaper said that Trinidad felt happy with the meeting and that he may be considering fighting again. But in addition to De La Hoya it looks like Don King mentioned names such as RJJ, Mayweather and winner of Hopkins-Wright. I am a BIG! Tito fan and I am having some mixed feelings with these news. One part is asking Tito to remain in the retirement and continue with a happy family life letting us remember his legacy and all his great battles. But, to be honest the other part is claiming for those big emotions and the Titomania one more time!!!! Any comments on a Trinidad come back?

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I can't see the point in this at all, DLH V Tito is a waste of time.
DLH won the first fight easily and doesn't have to prove a thing on that score,
Tito would be beaten up by Cotto at this stage and Mayweather would play with him, why
embarrass yourself and comeback to be ridiculed.
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This Tito-DLH argument could rage on from here to eternity. Both sides have valid points. I, of course, think Tito would win a rematch at 154 (or higher) convincingly. DLH fans think Oscar would win. Only an actual fight would settle that score. But, that being said.....

Tito doesn't NEED a De La Hoya fight. He already got the "W". From non-Puerto Rican judges, and in Oscar's backyard. So whether you think it was a good decision or a bad decision, Tito walked away with the win, and it is Oscar that seeks redemption, not Tito. Tito pressed the action throughout the fight, especially in the later rounds, when Oscar chose to play "Olympic sprinter" and ran all over the ring. Would he have won the fight had he fought all 12 rounds? Maybe.... maybe not. Tito had the edge in stamina, and he's obviously always had KO power well into the end of fights.

And while I'm at it, I don't get where people question Tito's chin. His only KO loss came at the hands of Hopkins, and that was after a thorough beating through 11 rounds. Hopkins was always the naturally bigger man, a natural middleweight, one of the best in history. There is no shame in a natural welterweight going up in weight and losing to a future HOF'er at middleweight. De La Hoya fared a lot worse.

I hope he doesn't come back with Don King. That's a bad move!!

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Originally Posted by Ice Man

I hope he doesn't come back with Don King. That's a bad move!!

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Amen to that. I hate that jerk.

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Originally Posted by Chris N.

A Delahoya rematch would be big money no matter what the result.

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Isn't boxing about the best fighting the best and not about whether Oscar can get a win in a fight which he could have won in 1999 when both were good? This cannot be about what Oscar wants and people paying for it. Tito is not a prime fighter now and neither is Oscar. They should have to prove more and if Oscar does beat Tito it should not be as though Oscar beat a great fighter now. Tito is not the same fighter.

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Originally Posted by the phenom

ok jones will kill him even now, hopkins will, wright will, delahoya will win, i dont want him to fight anyone of those guys, i want him and cotto

COTTO VS TITO
The title could be

puerto rican heros collide

or the pride of puerto rico or whose the puerto rican hero

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None of those guys 'Kill' him..

I think he could beat them all with the right game plan

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no he can't cause that's the problem, he goes in with one plan, if it doesn't work (DLH,Wright, and Hopkins) he doesn't change it at all and get beat horribly throughout the fight, i don't think he'll ever be as dominant as he once was, but i do believe that with a new trainer he could again be a champion, IMO he stands a good chance against, Pavlik, Miranda, Sturm, and Taylor (he doesn't listen at all to Steward and once the fight becomes a brawl he doesn't use his jab at all and that gives Tito chances to connect)

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ok jones will kill him even now, hopkins will, wright will, delahoya will win, i dont want him to fight anyone of those guys, i want him and cotto

COTTO VS TITO
The title could be

puerto rican heros collide

or the pride of puerto rico or whose the puerto rican hero

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None of those guys 'Kill' him..

I think he could beat them all with the right game plan

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no he can't cause that's the problem, he goes in with one plan, if it doesn't work (DLH,Wright, and Hopkins) he doesn't change it at all and get beat horribly throughout the fight, i don't think he'll ever be as dominant as he once was, but i do believe that with a new trainer he could again be a champion, IMO he stands a good chance against, Pavlik, Miranda, Sturm, and Taylor (he doesn't listen at all to Steward and once the fight becomes a brawl he doesn't use his jab at all and that gives Tito chances to connect)

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He doesnt need a new trainer.. And if hes sharp he beats the majority with the style he has had the entire time.. He just needs to train, be sharp and fight at the right weights

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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB

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ok jones will kill him even now, hopkins will, wright will, delahoya will win, i dont want him to fight anyone of those guys, i want him and cotto

COTTO VS TITO
The title could be

puerto rican heros collide

or the pride of puerto rico or whose the puerto rican hero

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None of those guys 'Kill' him..

I think he could beat them all with the right game plan

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no he can't cause that's the problem, he goes in with one plan, if it doesn't work (DLH,Wright, and Hopkins) he doesn't change it at all and get beat horribly throughout the fight, i don't think he'll ever be as dominant as he once was, but i do believe that with a new trainer he could again be a champion, IMO he stands a good chance against, Pavlik, Miranda, Sturm, and Taylor (he doesn't listen at all to Steward and once the fight becomes a brawl he doesn't use his jab at all and that gives Tito chances to connect)

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He doesnt need a new trainer.. And if hes sharp he beats the majority with the style he has had the entire time.. He just needs to train, be sharp and fight at the right weights

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For once BHB I disagree with you. Tito has needed a new trainer for a long time. Papa Trinidad just has nothing more to teach Tito and a guy who tells him he is winning in a fight he is clearly loosing is not a good thing. It would be great if he could get a Freddy Roach or Manny, someone who could give him a good game plan throughout the fight. You just can't go to a fight at this level without a good plan.

I don't like that Tito is talking about fighting RJJ. And it has nothing to do with wether or not he could win, the point is that this fight is pointless. Yes I know Tito has always wanted to fight Jones but he is missing out on the big picture.

Tito has a great chance of taking over the Middleweight division at this time. I have no doubt in my mind that he could beat every Middleweight right now. Taylor would be a real test but he is still a little green and Tito could put that chin to the test if Taylor can't stay away from those bombs. He is not the most defensive fighter in there.

He would dominate most other MW with the exception of Pavlik which would be a great action packed fight.

And please guys don't come here and say that DLH could still beat Tito. The only way he could do it if he fought the same fight he did the first time for the full 12 rounds. 1) He can't do that again at this stage in his career 2) When was the last time Oscar fought the full 12 rounds? 3) Oscar is not Winky and he is not Hopkins, these are totally different styles.

We'll just have to wait and see if Tito is in shape for a elite class fight.

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ok jones will kill him even now, hopkins will, wright will, delahoya will win, i dont want him to fight anyone of those guys, i want him and cotto

COTTO VS TITO
The title could be

puerto rican heros collide

or the pride of puerto rico or whose the puerto rican hero

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None of those guys 'Kill' him..

I think he could beat them all with the right game plan

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no he can't cause that's the problem, he goes in with one plan, if it doesn't work (DLH,Wright, and Hopkins) he doesn't change it at all and get beat horribly throughout the fight, i don't think he'll ever be as dominant as he once was, but i do believe that with a new trainer he could again be a champion, IMO he stands a good chance against, Pavlik, Miranda, Sturm, and Taylor (he doesn't listen at all to Steward and once the fight becomes a brawl he doesn't use his jab at all and that gives Tito chances to connect)

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He doesnt need a new trainer.. And if hes sharp he beats the majority with the style he has had the entire time.. He just needs to train, be sharp and fight at the right weights

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For once BHB I disagree with you. Tito has needed a new trainer for a long time. Papa Trinidad just has nothing more to teach Tito and a guy who tells him he is winning in a fight he is clearly loosing is not a good thing. It would be great if he could get a Freddy Roach or Manny, someone who could give him a good game plan throughout the fight. You just can't go to a fight at this level without a good plan.

I don't like that Tito is talking about fighting RJJ. And it has nothing to do with wether or not he could win, the point is that this fight is pointless. Yes I know Tito has always wanted to fight Jones but he is missing out on the big picture.

Tito has a great chance of taking over the Middleweight division at this time. I have no doubt in my mind that he could beat every Middleweight right now. Taylor would be a real test but he is still a little green and Tito could put that chin to the test if Taylor can't stay away from those bombs. He is not the most defensive fighter in there.

He would dominate most other MW with the exception of Pavlik which would be a great action packed fight.

And please guys don't come here and say that DLH could still beat Tito. The only way he could do it if he fought the same fight he did the first time for the full 12 rounds. 1) He can't do that again at this stage in his career 2) When was the last time Oscar fought the full 12 rounds? 3) Oscar is not Winky and he is not Hopkins, these are totally different styles.

We'll just have to wait and see if Tito is in shape for a elite class fight.

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Funnily enough..The post in which you disagree with me i do pretty much agree with.. Lol

I suppose its not that he wouldnt benefit from a new training regime..

But hes an old dog as far os boxing goes now.. And i think once he gets into a fightt hes just gona go back to what brought him to the big time..

Theres really very few trainers out there good enough to make a distinct difference to trinidad that actually speak spanish etc.. But also tito would not leave his father and i believe the reward would not be worth the trouble..

Peace