Is Peter Manfredo Jr the perfect foil for Edison Miranda or visa versa

Can Manfredo, 28-4 (13 Kos) regain the fire and desire and fight like he did against Sergio Mora? And can “Pantera,” 28-2 (24 Kos) regroup and fight like he did against Willie Gibbs and Howard Eastman? A win for Manfredo puts him back in the mix. A win for Miranda restores much of the lost glamour ???
By the wat, if Manfredo enters the ring again to the theme of the Godfather, I will puke on the TV set.

.......that's MURDER right there Miranda-Manfredo....dude Pete would get slaughtered, especially at 168

I don't think much of Manfedo. He would get destroyed by Miranda, wouldn't be close would end in 2 rounds or less.

I would love to see fight happen. Never can really get enough of seeing Manfredo get his ass beat. And get his ass beat he will.

It'd be a total blow out. Manfredo (and Mora for that matter) have no business fighting on a world level.

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It'd be a total blow out. Manfredo (and Mora for that matter) have no business fighting on a world level.

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GOOD someone agrees with me Manfredo os an awful fighter and any world class fighter would beat him convincingly he has no power or balance and if u want a career in boxing you dont go on a TV show.
Fact is hes a total media product and we shouldnt even give him the time of day on this excellent forum.:)

Manfredo has the perfect jaw for Miranda to bust, thats about it.

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It'd be a total blow out. Manfredo (and Mora for that matter) have no business fighting on a world level.

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GOOD someone agrees with me Manfredo os an awful fighter and any world class fighter would beat him convincingly he has no power or balance and if u want a career in boxing you dont go on a TV show.
Fact is hes a total media product and we shouldnt even give him the time of day on this excellent forum.:)

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i dont know if manfredo is an awful professional .. but...

miranda is the type of world class fighter that if you lose to him convincingly you might not fight again... which is what i think would happen

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Manfredo has the perfect jaw for Miranda to bust, thats about it.

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Actually, while I don'y much like him, he does have a solid chin.

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Manfredo has the perfect jaw for Miranda to bust, thats about it.

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Actually, while I don'y much like him, he does have a solid chin.

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Your right he does have a solid chin, I'm talking about the broken jaw that Peter would suffer from the constant pounding of right hands, just like he did to Abraham.

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Manfredo has the perfect jaw for Miranda to bust, thats about it.

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Actually, while I don'y much like him, he does have a solid chin.

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Your right he does have a solid chin, I'm talking about the broken jaw that Peter would suffer from the constant pounding of right hands, just like he did to Abraham.

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Manfredo has the perfect jaw for Miranda to bust, thats about it.

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Actually, while I don'y much like him, he does have a solid chin.

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Your right he does have a solid chin, I'm talking about the broken jaw that Peter would suffer from the constant pounding of right hands, just like he did to Abraham.

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You've got to give Peter credit where it's due, he can take a punch, if he couldn't take a punch we probably wouldn't have a clue who he is ;)

I like Manfredo, he's a decent fighter but has alot to learn. I don't think he's anywhere near world level though and a fight with Edison Miranda is just plain wrong for him. Miranda was unlucky to come up against Pavlik, and he shouldn't have been looking past him to Taylor. Bottom line, Miranda is a world class fighter and is possibly the hardest p4p puncher in the world. Pete would get hurt bad, and should look maybe to fight somebody like Beyer or Greene if he wants a step up.

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I like Manfredo, he's a decent fighter but has alot to learn. I don't think he's anywhere near world level though and a fight with Edison Miranda is just plain wrong for him. Miranda was unlucky to come up against Pavlik, and he shouldn't have been looking past him to Taylor. Bottom line, Miranda is a world class fighter and is possibly the hardest p4p puncher in the world. Pete would get hurt bad, and should look maybe to fight somebody like Beyer or Greene if he wants a step up.

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Manfredo is due to fight Allan Green in October according to boxrec, I think Green knocks him out, Beyer would outbox him, Andrade, Inkin, Froch, Bute, Mundine, Brahmer, Lacy, Tsypko, Berrio, they all beat Manfredo easy.

The ony reason anyone cares about Manfredo is because if they use him in a fight against a top guy, they wil gain lots of publicity because Manfredo is 'thta guy from the contender'. Why do you think Gatti vs. Gomez is happening and Taylor vs. Mora almost happened ? Simple, it's all about the $$$$

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I like Manfredo, he's a decent fighter but has alot to learn. I don't think he's anywhere near world level though and a fight with Edison Miranda is just plain wrong for him. Miranda was unlucky to come up against Pavlik, and he shouldn't have been looking past him to Taylor. Bottom line, Miranda is a world class fighter and is possibly the hardest p4p puncher in the world. Pete would get hurt bad, and should look maybe to fight somebody like Beyer or Greene if he wants a step up.

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I agree. He's getting hated on pretty bad in this thread but I tend to see why. Pete took a right hand beating by Banks. If those were miranda rights Peter would have been decapitated. Banks is much faster so maybe pete could defend those looping rights of Pantera better... I don't know

An absolute horrible choice for pete....and exactly the kind of fight miranda needs to get his confidence back.....this will end badly for manfredo.

If Peter Manfredo is your "perfect foil" things are truly gloom and doom for you.

I like Manfredo, believe it or not.

Manfredo is a good guy, but he's done nothing to demonstrate that he even belongs in the same ring as Miranda. He would get knocked out pretty quickly.

This topic is just a sad excuse to induce hate against Peter Manfredo. I don't know a person on this forum who thinks Manfredo belongs in the ring with Miranda, and even guys like me who like Manfredo as a local, 2nd tier guy, have never run around touting him as the next great thing. Nobody in the Manfredo camp would be stupid enough to put him in with Miranda. I give him a chance against Greene, but I see Greene as another 2nd tier guy. People want to hate on him for being on TV and getting an underdeserved title shot, fine, but what has got guy done since then? He shut his mouth, took some two fights in short orde, then signed a competive fight with a guy right around his level. Wow, kill the guy for having decent management. If only his father was as good a trainer as he is a manager.

They guys from the contender take so much crap around here, but for me, I'm rooting for them all....Mora, Forbes, even Gomez against Gatti. For all the things I've said against Mora in the course of Mora/Manfredo arguements, I'm offically a Mora fan now. Just because. They might not be the best or the top level, but they are real pro's. They may not be real "contenders" but they are decent fighters, and these guys give you your money's worth, maybe more than most of the top guys.

Manfredo is a good guy. But he sucks as a fighter. And this is a boxing forum. So he gets hated on. Nothing wrong with that.

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Manfredo is a good guy. But he sucks as a fighter. And this is a boxing forum. So he gets hated on. Nothing wrong with that.

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I bet he would kick your ass and I would pay to see that O0

OK, I see your point. Let's start a thread with the primary intention of hating on...hmmm....

Neoufel Ben Rabah, or how about, Tocker Pudwell. Or Anthony Bonsante? He sucks, too, and he's gotten some fights off the contender. Why not hate on Alfonzo Gomez for getting an HBO date?

I'll say this, VD, I know I can count on you to hate on them all. You are a professional hater and if you had started the thread, I probably wouldn't respond. I expect that stuff from you.

If you want to hate on Manfredo, start a thread saying, "Allen Greene is going to kick Manfredo's ass." That bring a proper context for Manfredo hating. Why bring Miranda into to it? Why is Manfredo a perfect foil? Because a lot of people want to see him get brutal beating because he got famous from the contender. That's a stupid reason to hate a guy. Hate a guy because he's he's an asshole or because he's boring to watch. Peter a decent guy who fights with heart. So what if he's a famous b-level fighter. Boxing needs more guys like Manfredo (and for that matter, Anthony Bonsante and Alfonzo Gomez).

Wow i haven't followed this manfredo hatred for very long and actually wasn't sure it even existed...hating him for how he came up to me is kinda silly...from contender, from american idol i don't see what difference it makes....i don't really root for any boxer i just like boxing as a whole and reguardless of where he is from i think he is just an average all around fighter not bad in any means but far from great...i think this was just a what if topic and if it did happen it just wouldn't make sense to me..now manfredo i actually like but mora i can't stand but that's another topic....

Aint Manfredo fighting Allan Green next :o Gonna bet my house on a Green victory.

As for Miranda, yes he would decapitate Manfredo.

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Manfredo is a good guy. But he sucks as a fighter. And this is a boxing forum. So he gets hated on. Nothing wrong with that.

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I bet he would kick your ass and I would pay to see that O0

OK, I see your point. Let's start a thread with the primary intention of hating on...hmmm....

Neoufel Ben Rabah, or how about, Tocker Pudwell. Or Anthony Bonsante? He sucks, too, and he's gotten some fights off the contender. Why not hate on Alfonzo Gomez for getting an HBO date?

I'll say this, VD, I know I can count on you to hate on them all. You are a professional hater and if you had started the thread, I probably wouldn't respond. I expect that stuff from you.

If you want to hate on Manfredo, start a thread saying, "Allen Greene is going to kick Manfredo's ass." That bring a proper context for Manfredo hating. Why bring Miranda into to it? Why is Manfredo a perfect foil? Because a lot of people want to see him get brutal beating because he got famous from the contender. That's a stupid reason to hate a guy. Hate a guy because he's he's an asshole or because he's boring to watch. Peter a decent guy who fights with heart. So what if he's a famous b-level fighter. Boxing needs more guys like Manfredo (and for that matter, Anthony Bonsante and Alfonzo Gomez).

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It's easy to dislike a fighter when gets paid money he doesn't deserve and gets a title shot he doesn't deserve over fighters who are more worthy. All cuz he came out on a TV show in which he went 3-3 in fights against club fighters.

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Manfredo is a good guy. But he sucks as a fighter. And this is a boxing forum. So he gets hated on. Nothing wrong with that.

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I bet he would kick your ass and I would pay to see that O0

OK, I see your point. Let's start a thread with the primary intention of hating on...hmmm....

Neoufel Ben Rabah, or how about, Tocker Pudwell. Or Anthony Bonsante? He sucks, too, and he's gotten some fights off the contender. Why not hate on Alfonzo Gomez for getting an HBO date?

I'll say this, VD, I know I can count on you to hate on them all. You are a professional hater and if you had started the thread, I probably wouldn't respond. I expect that stuff from you.

If you want to hate on Manfredo, start a thread saying, "Allen Greene is going to kick Manfredo's ass." That bring a proper context for Manfredo hating. Why bring Miranda into to it? Why is Manfredo a perfect foil? Because a lot of people want to see him get brutal beating because he got famous from the contender. That's a stupid reason to hate a guy. Hate a guy because he's he's an asshole or because he's boring to watch. Peter a decent guy who fights with heart. So what if he's a famous b-level fighter. Boxing needs more guys like Manfredo (and for that matter, Anthony Bonsante and Alfonzo Gomez).

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It's easy to dislike a fighter when gets paid money he doesn't deserve and gets a title shot he doesn't deserve over fighters who are more worthy. All cuz he came out on a TV show in which he went 3-3 in fights against club fighters.

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So what? Many many people get title shots that they don't deserve. Is it his fault he took the payday? Blame fcukin Calzaghe. I guess if I finally hit that big scratch ticket, everybody will hate on me for getting money I didn't deserve. he would have been a chump so say no. That fight never should have been offered to himm, but you get what you can get when you can get it, aint that the gangsta way, VD?

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Manfredo is a good guy. But he sucks as a fighter. And this is a boxing forum. So he gets hated on. Nothing wrong with that.

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I bet he would kick your ass and I would pay to see that O0

OK, I see your point. Let's start a thread with the primary intention of hating on...hmmm....

Neoufel Ben Rabah, or how about, Tocker Pudwell. Or Anthony Bonsante? He sucks, too, and he's gotten some fights off the contender. Why not hate on Alfonzo Gomez for getting an HBO date?

I'll say this, VD, I know I can count on you to hate on them all. You are a professional hater and if you had started the thread, I probably wouldn't respond. I expect that stuff from you.

If you want to hate on Manfredo, start a thread saying, "Allen Greene is going to kick Manfredo's ass." That bring a proper context for Manfredo hating. Why bring Miranda into to it? Why is Manfredo a perfect foil? Because a lot of people want to see him get brutal beating because he got famous from the contender. That's a stupid reason to hate a guy. Hate a guy because he's he's an asshole or because he's boring to watch. Peter a decent guy who fights with heart. So what if he's a famous b-level fighter. Boxing needs more guys like Manfredo (and for that matter, Anthony Bonsante and Alfonzo Gomez).

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It's easy to dislike a fighter when gets paid money he doesn't deserve and gets a title shot he doesn't deserve over fighters who are more worthy. All cuz he came out on a TV show in which he went 3-3 in fights against club fighters.

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So what? Many many people get title shots that they don't deserve. Is it his fault he took the payday? Blame fcukin Calzaghe. I guess if I finally hit that big scratch ticket, everybody will hate on me for getting money I didn't deserve. he would have been a chump so say no. That fight never should have been offered to himm, but you get what you can get when you can get it, aint that the gangsta way, VD?

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You asked for a reason why he was hated and I gave it to you. The title shot should of never been offered to him. But it was giving to him by a coward. So what can you really do? Nothing accept call him undeserving and a bum. Which he is.

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Manfredo is a good guy. But he sucks as a fighter. And this is a boxing forum. So he gets hated on. Nothing wrong with that.

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I bet he would kick your ass and I would pay to see that O0

OK, I see your point. Let's start a thread with the primary intention of hating on...hmmm....

Neoufel Ben Rabah, or how about, Tocker Pudwell. Or Anthony Bonsante? He sucks, too, and he's gotten some fights off the contender. Why not hate on Alfonzo Gomez for getting an HBO date?

I'll say this, VD, I know I can count on you to hate on them all. You are a professional hater and if you had started the thread, I probably wouldn't respond. I expect that stuff from you.

If you want to hate on Manfredo, start a thread saying, "Allen Greene is going to kick Manfredo's ass." That bring a proper context for Manfredo hating. Why bring Miranda into to it? Why is Manfredo a perfect foil? Because a lot of people want to see him get brutal beating because he got famous from the contender. That's a stupid reason to hate a guy. Hate a guy because he's he's an asshole or because he's boring to watch. Peter a decent guy who fights with heart. So what if he's a famous b-level fighter. Boxing needs more guys like Manfredo (and for that matter, Anthony Bonsante and Alfonzo Gomez).

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It's easy to dislike a fighter when gets paid money he doesn't deserve and gets a title shot he doesn't deserve over fighters who are more worthy. All cuz he came out on a TV show in which he went 3-3 in fights against club fighters.

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So what? Many many people get title shots that they don't deserve. Is it his fault he took the payday? Blame fcukin Calzaghe. I guess if I finally hit that big scratch ticket, everybody will hate on me for getting money I didn't deserve. he would have been a chump so say no. That fight never should have been offered to himm, but you get what you can get when you can get it, aint that the gangsta way, VD?

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You asked for a reason why he was hated and I gave it to you. The title shot should of never been offered to him. But it was giving to him by a coward. So what can you really do? Nothing accept call him undeserving and a bum. Which he is.

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Yes, you did, the reason sucks. I think we agree that he shouldn't have been offered the fight. Bum or not, he's probably richer than either one of us.

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Manfredo is a good guy. But he sucks as a fighter. And this is a boxing forum. So he gets hated on. Nothing wrong with that.

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I bet he would kick your ass and I would pay to see that O0

OK, I see your point. Let's start a thread with the primary intention of hating on...hmmm....

Neoufel Ben Rabah, or how about, Tocker Pudwell. Or Anthony Bonsante? He sucks, too, and he's gotten some fights off the contender. Why not hate on Alfonzo Gomez for getting an HBO date?

I'll say this, VD, I know I can count on you to hate on them all. You are a professional hater and if you had started the thread, I probably wouldn't respond. I expect that stuff from you.

If you want to hate on Manfredo, start a thread saying, "Allen Greene is going to kick Manfredo's ass." That bring a proper context for Manfredo hating. Why bring Miranda into to it? Why is Manfredo a perfect foil? Because a lot of people want to see him get brutal beating because he got famous from the contender. That's a stupid reason to hate a guy. Hate a guy because he's he's an asshole or because he's boring to watch. Peter a decent guy who fights with heart. So what if he's a famous b-level fighter. Boxing needs more guys like Manfredo (and for that matter, Anthony Bonsante and Alfonzo Gomez).

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It's easy to dislike a fighter when gets paid money he doesn't deserve and gets a title shot he doesn't deserve over fighters who are more worthy. All cuz he came out on a TV show in which he went 3-3 in fights against club fighters.

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So what? Many many people get title shots that they don't deserve. Is it his fault he took the payday? Blame fcukin Calzaghe. I guess if I finally hit that big scratch ticket, everybody will hate on me for getting money I didn't deserve. he would have been a chump so say no. That fight never should have been offered to himm, but you get what you can get when you can get it, aint that the gangsta way, VD?

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You asked for a reason why he was hated and I gave it to you. The title shot should of never been offered to him. But it was giving to him by a coward. So what can you really do? Nothing accept call him undeserving and a bum. Which he is.

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Yes, you did, the reason sucks. I think we agree that he shouldn't have been offered the fight. Bum or not, he's probably richer than either one of us.

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And I'm pretty sure he's gotten his ass kicked a lot more than either one of us (at least a lot more than I have).

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Manfredo is a good guy. But he sucks as a fighter. And this is a boxing forum. So he gets hated on. Nothing wrong with that.

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I bet he would kick your ass and I would pay to see that O0

OK, I see your point. Let's start a thread with the primary intention of hating on...hmmm....

Neoufel Ben Rabah, or how about, Tocker Pudwell. Or Anthony Bonsante? He sucks, too, and he's gotten some fights off the contender. Why not hate on Alfonzo Gomez for getting an HBO date?

I'll say this, VD, I know I can count on you to hate on them all. You are a professional hater and if you had started the thread, I probably wouldn't respond. I expect that stuff from you.

If you want to hate on Manfredo, start a thread saying, "Allen Greene is going to kick Manfredo's ass." That bring a proper context for Manfredo hating. Why bring Miranda into to it? Why is Manfredo a perfect foil? Because a lot of people want to see him get brutal beating because he got famous from the contender. That's a stupid reason to hate a guy. Hate a guy because he's he's an asshole or because he's boring to watch. Peter a decent guy who fights with heart. So what if he's a famous b-level fighter. Boxing needs more guys like Manfredo (and for that matter, Anthony Bonsante and Alfonzo Gomez).

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It's easy to dislike a fighter when gets paid money he doesn't deserve and gets a title shot he doesn't deserve over fighters who are more worthy. All cuz he came out on a TV show in which he went 3-3 in fights against club fighters.

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So what? Many many people get title shots that they don't deserve. Is it his fault he took the payday? Blame fcukin Calzaghe. I guess if I finally hit that big scratch ticket, everybody will hate on me for getting money I didn't deserve. he would have been a chump so say no. That fight never should have been offered to himm, but you get what you can get when you can get it, aint that the gangsta way, VD?

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You asked for a reason why he was hated and I gave it to you. The title shot should of never been offered to him. But it was giving to him by a coward. So what can you really do? Nothing accept call him undeserving and a bum. Which he is.

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Yes, you did, the reason sucks. I think we agree that he shouldn't have been offered the fight. Bum or not, he's probably richer than either one of us.

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And I'm pretty sure he's gotten his ass kicked a lot more than either one of us (at least a lot more than I have).

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Touche. LMFAO.

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Manfredo is a good guy.  But he sucks as a fighter.  And this is a boxing forum.  So he gets hated on.  Nothing wrong with that.

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I bet he would kick your a**  and I would pay to see that O0

OK, I see your point. Let's start a thread with the primary intention of hating on...hmmm....

Neoufel Ben Rabah, or how about, Tocker Pudwell. Or Anthony Bonsante? He sucks, too, and he's gotten some fights off the contender. Why not hate on Alfonzo Gomez for getting an HBO date?

I'll say this, VD, I know I can count on you to hate on them all. You are a professional hater and if you had started the thread, I  probably wouldn't respond. I expect that stuff from you.

If you want to hate on Manfredo, start a thread saying, "Allen Greene is going to kick Manfredo's a**." That bring a proper context for Manfredo hating. Why bring Miranda into to it? Why is Manfredo a perfect foil? Because a lot of people want to see him get brutal beating because he got famous from the contender. That's a stupid reason to hate a guy. Hate a guy because he's he's an asshole or because he's boring to watch. Peter a decent guy who fights with heart. So what if he's a famous b-level fighter. Boxing needs more guys like Manfredo (and for that matter, Anthony Bonsante and Alfonzo Gomez).

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It's easy to dislike a fighter when gets paid money he doesn't deserve and gets a title shot he doesn't deserve over fighters who are more worthy.  All cuz he came out on a TV show in which he went 3-3 in fights against club fighters. 

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So what? Many many people get title shots that they don't deserve. Is it his fault  he took the payday? Blame fcukin Calzaghe. I guess if I finally hit that big scratch ticket, everybody will hate on me for getting money I didn't deserve. he would have been a chump so say no. That fight never should have been offered to himm, but you get what you can get when you can get it, aint that the gangsta way, VD?

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You asked for a reason why he was hated and I gave it to you.  The title shot should of never been offered to him.  But it was giving to him by a coward.  So what can you really do?  Nothing accept call him undeserving and a bum.  Which he is. 

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Yes, you did,  the reason sucks. I think we agree that he shouldn't have been offered the fight.   Bum or not, he's probably richer than either one of us.

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And I'm pretty sure he's gotten his a** kicked a lot more than either one of us (at least a lot more than I have).

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Touche. LMFAO.

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I remember seeing Manfredo something like once a month stopping into the video store, before Contender, before any publicity and he was on a roll.. I understand that this is a boxing forum, and his recent performances can be criticized, but HATE THE GAME NOT THE PLAYER.. who the F*** on this forum would turn down a world title shot.. would you honestly say to yourself, "you know, i don't deserve this shot as much as certain other fighters do, i'll pass"  It's not his fault he was chosen by Calzaghe's team..
And on top of all of that, he's never said he was the greatest fighter.. he has the same attitude as any real fighter has, he's confident he can beat anyone, but by no means is he a trash talker UNTIL the contract is signed and then his opponent is fair game.
If Peter gets a decent win, say over Green, with the way things are goign with fighters now, where this guy is ducking this guy etc, we should be HAPPY he wants to continue to fight whoever and wherever!

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If Peter Manfredo is your "perfect foil" things are truly gloom and doom for you.

I like Manfredo, believe it or not.

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Huh?

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If Peter Manfredo is your "perfect foil" things are truly gloom and doom for you.

I like Manfredo, believe it or not.

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Huh?

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Ignore him. Gorilla is trying to sound smart. Even he don't understand what the fuck he wrote