Muslim boxer banned for refusing drug test

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Brisbane boxer Omar Shaick has been suspended for two years after refusing to give a urine sample because of his religious beliefs.

This case really opens a minefield of litigation - I suspect he didn't want to do the test for other reasons.

he knew the rules regarding testing, if he didn't agree to the terms then he shouldn't be boxing.

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Brisbane boxer Omar Shaick has been suspended for two years after refusing to give a urine sample because of his religious beliefs.

This case really opens a minefield of litigation - I suspect he didn't want to do the test for other reasons.

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serves him right for believing in some stupid fucking religion as all religion is total fucking bullshit. theres no god no allah its all made up nonsense and if hes that fucking stupid to have any sort of religious beliefs then ive got fuck all sympathy for him.

Hold on a second. I wasn't aware it was against the Muslim religion to piss in a bottle?

He knew there was a possibility of drug testing when he became a boxer. You can't be exempt. Did Naz ever take a drugs test?

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Brisbane boxer Omar Shaick has been suspended for two years after refusing to give a urine sample because of his religious beliefs.

This case really opens a minefield of litigation - I suspect he didn't want to do the test for other reasons.

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good, you can't have special rules just because you believe in fairys

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Brisbane boxer Omar Shaick has been suspended for two years after refusing to give a urine sample because of his religious beliefs.

This case really opens a minefield of litigation - I suspect he didn't want to do the test for other reasons.

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serves him right for believing in some stupid F****** religion as all religion is total F****** bullshit. theres no god no allah its all made up nonsense and if hes that F****** stupid to have any sort of religious beliefs then ive got F*** all sympathy for him.

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I'm not religious, but if I were you I'd retract this because you're going to piss quite a few people off mate.

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Brisbane boxer Omar Shaick has been suspended for two years after refusing to give a urine sample because of his religious beliefs.

This case really opens a minefield of litigation - I suspect he didn't want to do the test for other reasons.

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serves him right for believing in some stupid F****** religion as all religion is total F****** bullshit. theres no god no allah its all made up nonsense and if hes that F****** stupid to have any sort of religious beliefs then ive got F*** all sympathy for him.

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I'm not religious, but if I were you I'd retract this because you're going to piss quite a few people off mate.

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no way jose there is no such thing as GOD its made up nonsense just like the tooth fairy. If some idiot is that stupid they beleive in any form of religion then thats there problem and they need to wake up and smell the coffee. Religion is all about control.

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Brisbane boxer Omar Shaick has been suspended for two years after refusing to give a urine sample because of his religious beliefs.

This case really opens a minefield of litigation - I suspect he didn't want to do the test for other reasons.

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serves him right for believing in some stupid F****** religion as all religion is total F****** bullshit. theres no god no allah its all made up nonsense and if hes that F****** stupid to have any sort of religious beliefs then ive got F*** all sympathy for him.

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I'm not religious, but if I were you I'd retract this because you're going to piss quite a few people off mate.

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no way jose there is no such thing as GOD its made up nonsense just like the tooth fairy. If some idiot is that stupid they beleive in any form of religion then thats there problem and they need to wake up and smell the coffee. Religion is all about control.

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I'm not disagreeing with you...but religious or not, it's a pretty strong opinion to force on somebody and I know there are religious people on this board. You're opening yourself up for a world of hate here.

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Brisbane boxer Omar Shaick has been suspended for two years after refusing to give a urine sample because of his religious beliefs.

This case really opens a minefield of litigation - I suspect he didn't want to do the test for other reasons.

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serves him right for believing in some stupid F****** religion as all religion is total F****** bullshit. theres no god no allah its all made up nonsense and if hes that F****** stupid to have any sort of religious beliefs then ive got F*** all sympathy for him.

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I'm not religious, but if I were you I'd retract this because you're going to piss quite a few people off mate.

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no way jose there is no such thing as GOD its made up nonsense just like the tooth fairy. If some idiot is that stupid they beleive in any form of religion then thats there problem and they need to wake up and smell the coffee. Religion is all about control.

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I'm not disagreeing with you...but religious or not, it's a pretty strong opinion to force on somebody and I know there are religious people on this board. You're opening yourself up for a world of hate here.

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I'm just telling it like it is. If some religious loony hates me because of that then fine. But ive always been an atheist and have no time for any form of religion.

.....tough shit

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he knew the rules regarding testing, if he didn't agree to the terms then he shouldn't be boxing.

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100% agree and i never heard Naz or Khan or even Ali complaining.
Got something to hide mate :detective:

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Brisbane boxer Omar Shaick has been suspended for two years after refusing to give a urine sample because of his religious beliefs.

This case really opens a minefield of litigation - I suspect he didn't want to do the test for other reasons.

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serves him right for believing in some stupid F****** religion as all religion is total F****** bullshit. theres no god no allah its all made up nonsense and if hes that F****** stupid to have any sort of religious beliefs then ive got F*** all sympathy for him.

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I'm not religious, but if I were you I'd retract this because you're going to piss quite a few people off mate.

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no way jose there is no such thing as GOD its made up nonsense just like the tooth fairy. If some idiot is that stupid they beleive in any form of religion then thats there problem and they need to wake up and smell the coffee. Religion is all about control.

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I'm not disagreeing with you...but religious or not, it's a pretty strong opinion to force on somebody and I know there are religious people on this board. You're opening yourself up for a world of hate here.

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I'm just telling it like it is. If some religious loony hates me because of that then fine. But ive always been an atheist and have no time for any form of religion.

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right firstly there is no such thing in the muslim belief system that says you cant do a urine test so this boxer is taking piss(haha u like that :P)

2ndly Seanie you have a right to be an atheist and i aint no religious loony i dont go to church or anyother religious place of worship but as far i was aware this is a boxing forum
Not a place fro someone to try and shove thier beliefs on someone else
And if there was a thread on here from a religious person spouting there beliefs ppl would say something
well u are doin the same thing IMO your forcing your views on everyone else
just because u dont believe in religion does not give u the right to call those who do stupid or slag ppl off for it
So if you wanna hate ME now for SAYING IT HOW IT IS then thats fine too !!!
I have no religion either but it aint yours or my buisness wat other ppl believe in

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he knew the rules regarding testing, if he didn't agree to the terms then he shouldn't be boxing.

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100% agree and i never heard Naz or Khan or even Ali complaining.
Got something to hide mate :detective:

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His Trainer: "Damn'it Omar, you've tested positive to several types of steroids and an illegal beaver tranquilizer!" :D

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Brisbane boxer Omar Shaick has been suspended for two years after refusing to give a urine sample because of his religious beliefs.

This case really opens a minefield of litigation - I suspect he didn't want to do the test for other reasons.

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serves him right for believing in some stupid F****** religion as all religion is total F****** bullshit. theres no god no allah its all made up nonsense and if hes that F****** stupid to have any sort of religious beliefs then ive got F*** all sympathy for him.

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I'm not religious, but if I were you I'd retract this because you're going to piss quite a few people off mate.

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no way jose there is no such thing as GOD its made up nonsense just like the tooth fairy. If some idiot is that stupid they beleive in any form of religion then thats there problem and they need to wake up and smell the coffee. Religion is all about control.

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I'm not disagreeing with you...but religious or not, it's a pretty strong opinion to force on somebody and I know there are religious people on this board. You're opening yourself up for a world of hate here.

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I'm just telling it like it is. If some religious loony hates me because of that then fine. But ive always been an atheist and have no time for any form of religion.

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right firstly there is no such thing in the muslim belief system that says you cant do a urine test so this boxer is taking piss(haha u like that :P)

2ndly Seanie you have a right to be an atheist and i aint no religious loony i dont go to church or anyother religious place of worship but as far i was aware this is a boxing forum
Not a place fro someone to try and shove thier beliefs on someone else
And if there was a thread on here from a religious person spouting there beliefs ppl would say something
well u are doin the same thing IMO your forcing your views on everyone else
just because u dont believe in religion does not give u the right to call those who do stupid or slag ppl off for it
So if you wanna hate ME now for SAYING IT HOW IT IS then thats fine too !!!
I have no religion either but it aint yours or my buisness wat other ppl believe in

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:coolclick: #18 Kat. I was trying to make the point that this was just creating controversy for no reason. I like this forum because everyone tends to work hard at being respectful of others, and this came across as a tad disrespectful to me.

always wondered could a boxer box if he wore a turban and has anyone ever done this?

Not really, he isn't forcing himself 8) or his views on anyone. If he thinks religion is a bunch of cock then fair enough considering the fact that someone is trying to use religion to essentially cheat. It wasn't like he started ranting about religion for no reason.

Regarding what it is allowed on the front page of the forum, we are fairly tolerant but if it goes too far the thread will be re/moved, posts will get deleted etc. Relax people.

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always wondered could a boxer box if he wore a turban and has anyone ever done this?

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hahahahaha!!! :lol: :lolololol:

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hahahahaha!!! :lol: :lolololol:

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i know its not the same but i remember a guy in pride fighting in a mask but he got knocked out and it was murder for the ref to try and get his mask off so he could get some air. So i suppose they could make a turban with some sort of elastic christmas hat strap to hold it on there head

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always wondered could a boxer box if he wore a turban and has anyone ever done this?

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The great tiger did in Mike Tyson's 'Punch Out' ;D

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Brisbane boxer Omar Shaick has been suspended for two years after refusing to give a urine sample because of his religious beliefs.

This case really opens a minefield of litigation - I suspect he didn't want to do the test for other reasons.

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serves him right for believing in some stupid fucking religion as all religion is total fucking bullshit. theres no god no allah its all made up nonsense and if hes that fucking stupid to have any sort of religious beliefs then ive got fuck all sympathy for him.

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Sad Click for you......Dude that is straight up disrespectful. I don't care what others believe in. but you are crossing the line. Who are you to say what people should believe in (or not). I am also an atheist, but I respect what others choose to have faith with. You have no place to degrade people for their beliefs take it back and apologize to the billions of people you have just insulted.

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Brisbane boxer Omar Shaick has been suspended for two years after refusing to give a urine sample because of his religious beliefs.

This case really opens a minefield of litigation - I suspect he didn't want to do the test for other reasons.

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serves him right for believing in some stupid fucking religion as all religion is total fucking bullshit. theres no god no allah its all made up nonsense and if hes that fucking stupid to have any sort of religious beliefs then ive got fuck all sympathy for him.

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Sad Click for you......Dude that is straight up disrespectful. I don't care what others believe in. but you are crossing the line. Who are you to say what people should believe in (or not). I am also an atheist, but I respect what others choose to have faith with. You have no place to degrade people for their beliefs take it back and apologize to the billions of people you have just insulted.

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I agree... Look, I think our political correctness has gotten a little out hand(see the top ten white heavys and top ten black middles thread)... You can't even say black and white anymore... But this statement is rediculous. I am not practicing but do belong to a Religion. If someone were to tell me my religion was shit I would be kinda pissed... Say what you will about religion but there are reasons why wars have been waged for hundreds of thousands of years about it... Why a tiny strip in the middle east has cost countless billions of lives over thousands of years... People take it seriously...

SEANIE, I like ya, kid! I respect your oppinion! But lets put this one to sleep and leave it there... More drama then is needed...

Oh yeah! CC Killersheep!!!!!!

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Brisbane boxer Omar Shaick has been suspended for two years after refusing to give a urine sample because of his religious beliefs.

This case really opens a minefield of litigation - I suspect he didn't want to do the test for other reasons.

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serves him right for believing in some stupid F****** religion as all religion is total F****** bullshit. theres no god no allah its all made up nonsense and if hes that F****** stupid to have any sort of religious beliefs then ive got F*** all sympathy for him.

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Sad Click for you......Dude that is straight up disrespectful. I don't care what others believe in. but you are crossing the line. Who are you to say what people should believe in (or not). I am also an atheist, but I respect what others choose to have faith with. You have no place to degrade people for their beliefs take it back and apologize to the billions of people you have just insulted.

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I agree... Look, I think our political correctness has gotten a little out hand(see the top ten white heavys and top ten black middles thread)... You can't even say black and white anymore... But this statement is rediculous. I am not practicing but do belong to a Religion. If someone were to tell me my religion was S*** I would be kinda pissed... Say what you will about religion but there are reasons why wars have been waged for hundreds of thousands of years about it... Why a tiny strip in the middle east has cost countless billions of lives over thousands of years... People take it seriously...

SEANIE, I like ya, kid! I respect your oppinion! But lets put this one to sleep and leave it there... More drama then is needed...

Oh yeah! CC Killersheep!!!!!!

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I did try to warn him...

hey seane take it easy with the swearing man :)
the person who doesnt believe ina God, has a problem imo. its common sense, even scientists say that everything is perfect like out bodies, the earth and the distance in which the sun is etc. they dont know why.

as for religions, im a very open minded person, i've checked out all of the religions and the only one that stands out as the truth is Islam. I went to several talks over the years where a christian and a muslim or a muslim or a jew would discuss their religions infront of a massive crowd. and Islam always came out on top, without mistakes. there are so many contradictions in other religions its unreal. not one in Islam. islam is the way of life for everyone, to get you in heaven. just for you information, Jesus and Moses are both prophets in Islam.

enough of the religious talks and back to boxing :)
the guy won the tournament even tho he didnt take the test, thats good. imo he should have taken the test, did he have to show his genitals? isnt it enough for the person to just check the person for anything suspicious and then stand nearby?

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hey seane take it easy with the swearing man :)
the person who doesnt believe ina God, has a problem imo. its common sense,

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yea common sense to believe in some kind of being in the sky who made everything! why didn't I see that before ?

what a joke, swear they make something over nothing, fuck me you swear they tried to make him eat apork chop GROW THE FuCK UP SON

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always wondered could a boxer box if he wore a turban and has anyone ever done this?

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The great tiger did in Mike Tyson's 'Punch Out' ;D

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lol, that's what I was going to say. :P

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lol, that's what I was going to say. :P

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Nice... CC ;D

Spike, backatcha :coolclick:

If muslim men were allowed to wear turbans in the ring, imagine what muslim women would look like. :D

"How do you know it was the belt line?"

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If muslim men were allowed to wear turbans in the ring, imagine what muslim women would look like. :D

"How do you know it was the belt line?"

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They would have to wear blinking lights around the waste... Like 'OPEN' signs! 8)

Chris lol it ait muslim men that wear turbans it sikh's
sorri ;D

Quick note, muslims don't wear turbans, Sikh's do, dangerous to stereotype when you get them the wrong way round ;D

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If muslim men were allowed to wear turbans in the ring, imagine what muslim women would look like. :D

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Quick note, muslims don't wear turbans, Sikh's do, dangerous to stereotype when you get them the wrong way round ;D

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If muslim men were allowed to wear turbans in the ring, imagine what muslim women would look like. :D

"How do you know it was the belt line?"

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ha ha very very true
but onli if you know

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hey seane take it easy with the swearing man :)
the person who doesnt believe ina God, has a problem imo. its common sense, even scientists say that everything is perfect like out bodies, the earth and the distance in which the sun is etc. they dont know why.

as for religions, im a very open minded person, i've checked out all of the religions and the only one that stands out as the truth is Islam. I went to several talks over the years where a christian and a muslim or a muslim or a jew would discuss their religions infront of a massive crowd. and Islam always came out on top, without mistakes. there are so many contradictions in other religions its unreal. not one in Islam. islam is the way of life for everyone, to get you in heaven. just for you information, Jesus and Moses are both prophets in Islam.

enough of the religious talks and back to boxing :)
the guy won the tournament even tho he didnt take the test, thats good. imo he should have taken the test, did he have to show his genitals? isnt it enough for the person to just check the person for anything suspicious and then stand nearby?

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What drugs did you take to come to that conclusion?

People who put all there trust in a bearded man who lives on a cloud probably have more problems.

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Originally Posted by Big Jack

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Brisbane boxer Omar Shaick has been suspended for two years after refusing to give a urine sample because of his religious beliefs.

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HOLD UP A MINUTE...


i thought the muslims said it was against thier religion to box, and thats why theyre into that abu dabi shit


if thats the case then thats pure bullshit, that he would choose to ignore 1 belief and not the other

ey seane take it easy with the swearing man Smiley
the person who doesnt believe ina God, has a problem imo. its common sense, even scientists say that everything is perfect like out bodies, the earth and the distance in which the sun is etc. they dont know why.

as for religions, im a very open minded person, i've checked out all of the religions and the only one that stands out as the truth is Islam. I went to several talks over the years where a christian and a muslim or a muslim or a jew would discuss their religions infront of a massive crowd. and Islam always came out on top, without mistakes. there are so many contradictions in other religions its unreal. not one in Islam. islam is the way of life for everyone, to get you in heaven. just for you information, Jesus and Moses are both prophets in Islam.

Jesus was not a prophet, he was not a man like you are me basically he was created seperate.... this is the mot misunderstood par tof the bible... the flood all of thst was becuase human beings became tainted , dna wise sounds stupid but true, jesus the whole virign birth was this was a creation outside of human creation, the fall people created in their own image no longer in gods.. what do youy suppose that means???? The whole creatio n was polluted the idea was that satan had tempted and defeated humanity but jesus basically paid a ransom for humanity... fear comes from satan love comes from god its as simple as that, i have beattled literall demons and I can tell you no man comes to the father except through jesus christ, you have been deceived... i will openly debate with any muslim anytime... I love muslims I love all people but I don not believ ethe muslim religon to be of god I beleiv eit to be lies mixed with truth.... muslims are decnedants of who?? Of people who originally rejected god in the old testament

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Brisbane boxer Omar Shaick has been suspended for two years after refusing to give a urine sample because of his religious beliefs.

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serves him right for believing in some stupid F****** religion as all religion is total F****** bullshit. theres no god no allah its all made up nonsense and if hes that F****** stupid to have any sort of religious beliefs then ive got F*** all sympathy for him.

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I'm not religious, but if I were you I'd retract this because you're going to piss quite a few people off mate.

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I don't think he's going to offend anyone. Actually, if I was an athiest, I would be offended that I was being represented (at least in this situation) by someone who seemingly has no concept of simple grammar or punctuation. I'm not religious, but saying stuff like "fuck religion its bullshit ect ect" makes no one look bad except you.

Good post, I have to admit even as a kid before I was ever introduced I believed in god, nothing makes sense without it, or may I add with it, neither makes sense which is why you can conclude theres a god, the first thing is god its as simple as that how couold anything create itself.

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hey seane take it easy with the swearing man :)
the person who doesnt believe ina God, has a problem imo. its common sense, even scientists say that everything is perfect like out bodies, the earth and the distance in which the sun is etc. they dont know why.

as for religions, im a very open minded person, i've checked out all of the religions and the only one that stands out as the truth is Islam. I went to several talks over the years where a christian and a muslim or a muslim or a jew would discuss their religions infront of a massive crowd. and Islam always came out on top, without mistakes. there are so many contradictions in other religions its unreal. not one in Islam. islam is the way of life for everyone, to get you in heaven. just for you information, Jesus and Moses are both prophets in Islam.

enough of the religious talks and back to boxing :)
the guy won the tournament even tho he didnt take the test, thats good. imo he should have taken the test, did he have to show his genitals? isnt it enough for the person to just check the person for anything suspicious and then stand nearby?

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No mistakes in Islam? I'm pretty sure both Moses and Jesus did not marry six year olds and have sex with nine year olds!

Ho Hum.

Of course he should have been tested - there are millions of Muslim fighters in the world, and they are all subject to drug testing rules. If they fail the drug test, they should not only be banned from boxing but excommunicated from Islam as drugs are supposedly against Islam anyway. can't have it both ways. Its also against Islam to blow up innocent women and children, but that doesn't seem to stop the odd nutter.

We have someone here who chooses to use their supposed religion to excuse them from doing something that everyone else has to do. This is symptomatic of and reflective of those people who want to wear the veil in schools, or not eat school dinners, or whatever. Sadly, the religion is just a coathook to hang pre-existing grievances on. If he is such a pious Muslim, does he pray 5 times a day, fast during Ramadan and give a proportion of his earnings to the poor. You are either Muslim or not, as far as i see it and you can;t choose which bits apply and which ones don't suit you.

Just as sadly, however, is the fact that this makes the news. If a Christian boxer had refused a blood test (and they do all the time), it would not be big news and we naturally then get bitter as we subconsciously believe that only this chap and only Muslims are transgressing. Typical press propaganda.