i just wanna say that if jawnny had of let his hands go more like he did against jones he might would have gotten i alot more respect instead of becomming one of the most hated boxers of are time. i showed some good head movement in the fight also.
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i just wanna say that if jawnny had of let his hands go more like he did against jones he might would have gotten i alot more respect instead of becomming one of the most hated boxers of are time. i showed some good head movement in the fight also.
Must be a slow night watching Ruiz fights
Ive just been watching a box set of John Ruiz fights and i have to say without doubt .......................................zzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ;D
Well Maybe brotha..
All i know is although he is booorring and hes a arrogant sob..
Hes very underrated ;)
Go on tell me he hasnt fought the best he possibly could and more..Go on..
You cant can ya :P Lol..I think im one of the few tha gives Ruiz his props..
Just dont like the guy..Not one bit..But fair play to him as a fighter..Sort of :laugh:
Ruiz's best night of boxing was against Jones. He probably trained harder for that fight than any other.
Pity about the rest of his career
Ruiz was a good fighter, but the fact he was champion means there was a very weak division at the time... You cannot have a guy as good as Lennox as one champion and then Ruiz as another whom Jones says he beat to win a title. Lennox was the real champion and he would have knocked out Ruiz in 2 or 3. Lennox would have stopped Jones in 4 or 5
Lennox was great.. But the way you match up theyr performances is like well they all get ko'd so ruiz is worse then roy ruiz lasts 3 and roy lasts 6..Quote:
Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65
Thats pretty one tracked ..Roy lasts the distance and ruiz gets stopped mid to late..
Thats true, Roy can never really be regarded as a tru heavyweight champion, He beat a Heavyweight not Thee Heavyweight Champion.
he beat the WBA heavyweight champion...Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
and if that's the case lennox lewis wasn't the champ because he didn't beat michael moore for the belt nor did he beat tyson for the belt...he beat holyfield who collected the two belts from them...
U no i love roy, Damn, u no i wanna be roy! But as regards heavyweight, IMO it's what u do with ur title that makes u a champion, Lennox defended.
Roy didn't.
no way was roy a real heavyweight..but he did win the WBA championship..and will at least in the history of that sanctioning body be recognized as a heavyweight champion....Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
and he for damn sure wasn't defending that belt because within two weeks of the fight the WBA said he had to defend his title against WVladimir Kiltchko within a year or he'd be stripped....
RJJ-Greatest Super middle (&light heavyweight) of all time. Thats him in my opinion.
Roy Jones Jr would never have fought Lewis. He is six foot five and 200lb plus and was a true heavyweight champ who could box and throw big punches. Jones Jr would have no business against someone like that and he knows it thats why it never happened. It's not right to put Ruiz and Lewis in the same sentence when discussing if Jones Jr could have been a Heavyweight contender. Beating Ruiz is one thing but Lewis is another league.Quote:
Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65
You can put a lot more logic into it back and forth, but the above comment sums it up for me too. When you think of any way you can put it, you just get that 'feeling' that the above sums up pretty much prefect. I wouldn't have liked to see Roy in the ring with Lewis. It would NEVER have happened. And their is a reason why.Quote:
Originally Posted by bikersk
Look Roy Jones was, is and should always be remembered as an ATG middle, supermiddle and light heavy.
Sure Roy was a p4p great but why compare him to heavyweights all the time just because he was pretty much superior to everyone his own size!
Haven't watched this fight in ages im going to watch it again today.
Roy is better defensively than Ruiz that is why I say Roy could go 4 or 5 just on his movement, but a big man like Lennox coming forward on Roy is going to wear Roy out and a right hand will eventually land after Lennox gets close and starts to put pressure on Roy. I think 4 or 5 is actually giving Roy a little bit of credit. Lennox can punch. As for Ruiz, Ruiz did well against lighter punching guys. That is usually who he fought so he could slip by with clinching and handle a few punches when they landed, but against hard punchers he would have failed. . Against Lennox, Ruiz would get hit. Not like the Tua fight where Ruiz was caught cold. but he would be battered and stopped in 2 or 3 in my opinion. The clinching would not work if a right hand is coming over the top, and Lennox would be landing at will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tito_BHB