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Having watched the Jones Jr./Ruiz fight again I was surprised to hear a little HBO cast quarrel somewhere in the region of the 10th round. In this debate George Foreman lambasted both Merchant and Lampley for being "hypocrites," by promoting a fight and then turning on the runner up and taking away from the fights credibility. This really hit home for me as i find it incredibly similar to HBO's attitude toward the Hatton/Castillo fight. Both Ruiz/Castillo were forces to be reckoned with before the fight in all interviews, promotions and were mentioned severeal times in preceeding fights. To be honest although they do provide a good coverage, I personally am becoming increasingly frustrated with HBO's cast's attitude toward boxing. But all Props to Big George Foreman.
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAZBx9j4Q6o&mode=related&search=[/youtube]
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i noticed that during the fight, because i was watching it in a room filled with "i hope roy gets beat" people...every one was saying he was going to get knocked out because ruiz was a legitimate heavy and that roy bit off more than he could chew...then as the fight kept going and roy was beating up Ruiz they starting saying,
"ruiz ain't shit, he ain't a real heavy" "He can't be lennox, or mike tyson"
And right then i knew that no matter what Roy jones did in the ring some people would not be satisfied until he loses..and soon as tarver landed the luckiest punch in the history of big name fighters being kayoed the voices did exactly what was confirmed to me that night in 2003...
"i told you roy jones wasn't shit"
That's why i'm glad i said
"if Roy jones beats Ruiz no matters what happens afterwards RJJ is the best boxer/fighter since Ray Robinson" and IMO still is.....
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Well IMO Roy is the greatest Super Middleweight ever, i kinda dont judge as all inclusive p4p, i think it's just too difficult to judge, But yeah, best super midddle ever.
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Well IMO Roy is the greatest Super Middleweight ever, i kinda dont judge as all inclusive p4p, i think it's just too difficult to judge, But yeah, best super midddle ever.
and light heavyweight..he'd crush moore, foster, spinks, maxim,
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Yeah quite possibly...I jus made a point to u there on another thread.
The reason that i don't regard Roy highly as a heavyweight is because in comparison to LL who reigned and defended as a champ, Roy didn. So don't think by any means im tryna take away from RJJ, i idolise the guy k :)
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Yeah quite possibly...I jus made a point to u there on another thread.
The reason that i don't regard Roy highly as a heavyweight is because in comparison to LL who reigned and defended as a champ, Roy didn. So don't think by any means im tryna take away from RJJ, i idolise the guy k :)
its obvious that you think highly of him...but i just say what I think is obviously clear...if you'll notice all the great light heavy that i mentioned none of their names ever come up in the hypothetical "what about Roy vs this great" no its always how would he have done against the greatest heavyweights ever..which in itself is a subconscious concession to the fact that roy would beat any fighter ever within his weight range..LHW down roy beats all of them
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I remember watching him kick the living bajesus out of Montell griffin in person, you could tell that he was there to really end this early. That DQ embarrassed him, it gave him his first loss, and he was determined to show everyone where montell level was compared to jones. And he did that, in devastating fashion.
Whether or not anyone cares to remember, Roy Jones was the P4P best fighter in the world for over 5 years easily. THE BEST, No one came close in comparison to dominating the sport like he did. But as of now, Not so much. Those losses to tarver and johnson have affected in a mental way. If he could get over that, i believe he could still WOW us like he did in the years before.
NO ONE can ever take away the fact that he was THE MAN. When you heard of boxing at the time , you heard of ROY JONES P4P.
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Yeah and i think it's unfair they bring his name up with guys at heavy like that...He started at light middle for god's sake!
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Well IMO Roy is the greatest Super Middleweight ever, i kinda dont judge as all inclusive p4p, i think it's just too difficult to judge, But yeah, best super midddle ever.
and light heavyweight..he'd crush moore, foster, spinks, maxim,
What about EZZARD CHARLES? he was the greatest light heavyweight boxer ever.
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Well IMO Roy is the greatest Super Middleweight ever, i kinda dont judge as all inclusive p4p, i think it's just too difficult to judge, But yeah, best super midddle ever.
and light heavyweight..he'd crush moore, foster, spinks, maxim,
What about EZZARD CHARLES? he was the greatest light heavyweight boxer ever.
so when you say he was a lightheavy then yes he's included...anybody from 175 and under in the history of the sport ...prime roy jones eithers stops them or wins a UD....only the greatest HWs would have possibly beaten jones..and i'd still taken roy over them because they weren't like the heavys today (Super heavys) ali,marciano,demsey,louis, liston all of them were within a size range were jones would have given them hell
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Well IMO Roy is the greatest Super Middleweight ever, i kinda dont judge as all inclusive p4p, i think it's just too difficult to judge, But yeah, best super midddle ever.
and light heavyweight..he'd crush moore, foster, spinks, maxim,
What about EZZARD CHARLES? he was the greatest light heavyweight boxer ever.
so when you say he was a lightheavy then yes he's included...anybody from 175 and under in the history of the sport ...prime roy jones eithers stops them or wins a UD....only the greatest HWs would have possibly beaten jones..and i'd still taken roy over them because they weren't like the heavys today (Super heavys) ali,marciano,demsey,louis, liston all of them were within a size range were jones would have given them hell
I disagree with some of those nsame you put and i also think some boxers at Middleweight would stand a chance like Gerald Mc.
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Well IMO Roy is the greatest Super Middleweight ever, i kinda dont judge as all inclusive p4p, i think it's just too difficult to judge, But yeah, best super midddle ever.
and light heavyweight..he'd crush moore, foster, spinks, maxim,
What about EZZARD CHARLES? he was the greatest light heavyweight boxer ever.
so when you say he was a lightheavy then yes he's included...anybody from 175 and under in the history of the sport ...prime roy jones eithers stops them or wins a UD....only the greatest HWs would have possibly beaten jones..and i'd still taken roy over them because they weren't like the heavys today (Super heavys) ali,marciano,demsey,louis, liston all of them were within a size range were jones would have given them hell
I disagree with some of those nsame you put and i also think some boxers at Middleweight would stand a chance like Gerald Mc.
Gerald was too open and didn't have the ring intelligence that roy had..roy would out point him or possibly stop him
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Well IMO Roy is the greatest Super Middleweight ever, i kinda dont judge as all inclusive p4p, i think it's just too difficult to judge, But yeah, best super midddle ever.
and light heavyweight..he'd crush moore, foster, spinks, maxim,
What about EZZARD CHARLES? he was the greatest light heavyweight boxer ever.
so when you say he was a lightheavy then yes he's included...anybody from 175 and under in the history of the sport ...prime roy jones eithers stops them or wins a UD....only the greatest HWs would have possibly beaten jones..and i'd still taken roy over them because they weren't like the heavys today (Super heavys) ali,marciano,demsey,louis, liston all of them were within a size range were jones would have given them hell
I disagree with some of those nsame you put and i also think some boxers at Middleweight would stand a chance like Gerald Mc.
Gerald was too open and didn't have the ring intelligence that roy had..roy would out point him or possibly stop him
Easy to say that but Gerald charges right at you and im not sure if Roy can avoid Geralds bombs for that long its a toss up.
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Well IMO Roy is the greatest Super Middleweight ever, i kinda dont judge as all inclusive p4p, i think it's just too difficult to judge, But yeah, best super midddle ever.
and light heavyweight..he'd crush moore, foster, spinks, maxim,
What about EZZARD CHARLES? he was the greatest light heavyweight boxer ever.
so when you say he was a lightheavy then yes he's included...anybody from 175 and under in the history of the sport ...prime roy jones eithers stops them or wins a UD....only the greatest HWs would have possibly beaten jones..and i'd still taken roy over them because they weren't like the heavys today (Super heavys) ali,marciano,demsey,louis, liston all of them were within a size range were jones would have given them hell
I disagree with some of those nsame you put and i also think some boxers at Middleweight would stand a chance like Gerald Mc.
Gerald was too open and didn't have the ring intelligence that roy had..roy would out point him or possibly stop him
Easy to say that but Gerald charges right at you and im not sure if Roy can avoid Geralds bombs for that long its a toss up.
you might have forgotten how quick roy's reflexes were when he prime...gerald would get hurt badly..in fact benn might have saved him from the lost to jones...
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Well IMO Roy is the greatest Super Middleweight ever, i kinda dont judge as all inclusive p4p, i think it's just too difficult to judge, But yeah, best super midddle ever.
and light heavyweight..he'd crush moore, foster, spinks, maxim,
What about EZZARD CHARLES? he was the greatest light heavyweight boxer ever.
so when you say he was a lightheavy then yes he's included...anybody from 175 and under in the history of the sport ...prime roy jones eithers stops them or wins a UD....only the greatest HWs would have possibly beaten jones..and i'd still taken roy over them because they weren't like the heavys today (Super heavys) ali,marciano,demsey,louis, liston all of them were within a size range were jones would have given them hell
I disagree with some of those nsame you put and i also think some boxers at Middleweight would stand a chance like Gerald Mc.
Gerald was too open and didn't have the ring intelligence that roy had..roy would out point him or possibly stop him
Easy to say that but Gerald charges right at you and im not sure if Roy can avoid Geralds bombs for that long its a toss up.
you might have forgotten how quick roy's reflexes were when he prime...gerald would get hurt badly..in fact benn might have saved him from the lost to jones...
Believe me i haven't im the one normally praising Jones but in this fight im not sure if he could win.
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Gerald McClellan was not given the time to become the finished article as a professional. IMO Gerald had just as much natural talent as jones, but also, explosive power that even jones did not posess
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There is no way Jones would beat Charles or Moore at Lt. Heavyweight. They fought the far better fighters..and beat them. Jones was great in a different generation of fighters.
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There is no way Jones would beat Charles or Moore at Lt. Heavyweight. They fought the far better fighters..and beat them. Jones was great in a different generation of fighters.
they also have never seen the likes of jones and would be in awe of the speed and power in front,to the side, behind, underneath, as the punches would be coming at angels that make them they're in the twlight zone
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What about EZZARD CHARLES? he was the greatest light heavyweight boxer ever.
Gene Tunney wouldn't be a walk in the park either
But yeah HBO does tend to take credibility away from fights....it's a damn shame too they could make more boxing stars just by being good commentators but they shoot themselves in the foot when they discredit a fight/fighter like that. Like Hatton...no one knew and no one KNOWS Castillo is shot...he wasn't at his best but at least he did what HE was paid to do and that's WIN....it's not Ricky's fault Jose Luis didn't come to fight just like it's not Roy Jones Jr's fault that Ruiz couldn't do anything to him.
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Jones would have given all of them a good fight, but beat them all i kinda doubt it, Ali was just as smart as Jones in the ring and well i think that he would have been able to take Jones, also at LHW i think that Michael Moorer would have given him hell, he was an ok HW but remember Moorer was an outstanding LHW, winning all of his fights by KO in that division, he was a pretty smart fighter, a southpaw, quick, great power, and also an extremely good and effective right jab
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If I remember correctly, Emmanuel Steward did the same thing during the Mayweather-Baldomir fight.
In the pre-fight analysis, he said that Baldomir was a tough fighter and that Floyd was going to be in for a rough night.
Then after the fight, he said the outcome didn't surprise him because Baldomir never had a chance anyway.
I'll have to watch a tape when I get a chance to see exactly what he said
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Yeah quite possibly...I jus made a point to u there on another thread.
The reason that i don't regard Roy highly as a heavyweight is because in comparison to LL who reigned and defended as a champ, Roy didn. So don't think by any means im tryna take away from RJJ, i idolise the guy k :)
No other heavyweight wanted to fight him.
He was going to fight Corrie Sanders next(who had just KO'd Wladimer) and Corrie didn't want to fight Roy and vacated the title, and Roy didn't see the honor in fighting a vacant title he said he wanted to beat a champion to truly be a champion(right on Roy!)
So he went to Lennox and Lennox said he was probably gonna be packing it up(retiring)
So he moved down to fight Tarver since no Heavyweight wanted to fight him except probably Byrd but King kept that fight from happening for some reason
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So he went to Lennox and Lennox said he was probably gonna be packing it up(retiring)
Let's be honest here, this isn't exactly how it went down.
Roy said he'd fight Tyson or Lewis, if he was paid $100 million for the fight. This is the oldest trick in the book, it's called "intentionally pricing yourself out of a fight."
Now I don't blame Roy at all for not wanting to fight Lennox, but let's not make it seem like Lewis is the one who backed down.
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Having watched the Jones Jr./Ruiz fight again I was surprised to hear a little HBO cast quarrel somewhere in the region of the 10th round. In this debate George Foreman lambasted both Merchant and Lampley for being "hypocrites," by promoting a fight and then turning on the runner up and taking away from the fights credibility. This really hit home for me as i find it incredibly similar to HBO's attitude toward the Hatton/Castillo fight. Both Ruiz/Castillo were forces to be reckoned with before the fight in all interviews, promotions and were mentioned severeal times in preceeding fights. To be honest although they do provide a good coverage, I personally am becoming increasingly frustrated with HBO's cast's attitude toward boxing. But all Props to Big George Foreman.
[youtube=425,350]DAZBx9j4Q6o[/youtube]
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So he went to Lennox and Lennox said he was probably gonna be packing it up(retiring)
Let's be honest here, this isn't exactly how it went down.
Roy said he'd fight Tyson or Lewis,
if he was paid $100 million for the fight. This is the oldest trick in the book, it's called "intentionally pricing yourself out of a fight."
Now I don't blame Roy at all for not wanting to fight Lennox, but let's not make it seem like Lewis is the one who backed down.
And a fight that Tyson said he would have taken if Roy hadn't lost to Tarver. Let's face it, Tyson would have taken that fight. I'm not saying Lennox backed down, he was going to retire anyway but I see your point.
Either way the Lewis fight wasn't happening. Tyson would have taken it he really needed the money. But as far as Sanders, there's no excuse.
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So he went to Lennox and Lennox said he was probably gonna be packing it up(retiring)
Let's be honest here, this isn't exactly how it went down.
Roy said he'd fight Tyson or Lewis,
if he was paid $100 million for the fight. This is the oldest trick in the book, it's called "intentionally pricing yourself out of a fight."
Now I don't blame Roy at all for not wanting to fight Lennox, but let's not make it seem like Lewis is the one who backed down.
And a fight that Tyson said he would have taken if Roy hadn't lost to Tarver. Let's face it, Tyson would have taken that fight. I'm not saying Lennox backed down, he was going to retire anyway but I see your point.
Either way the Lewis fight wasn't happening. Tyson would have taken it he really needed the money. But as far as Sanders, there's no excuse.
So if Tyson wanted the fight, tell me which promoter would've agreed to pay Roy his 100 million dollars.
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.....the video does make you dislike Norman Stone all over again
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i noticed that during the fight, because i was watching it in a room filled with "i hope roy gets beat" people...every one was saying he was going to get knocked out because ruiz was a legitimate heavy and that roy bit off more than he could chew...then as the fight kept going and roy was beating up Ruiz they starting saying,
"ruiz ain't S***, he ain't a real heavy" "He can't be lennox, or mike tyson"
And right then i knew that no matter what Roy jones did in the ring some people would not be satisfied until he loses..and soon as tarver landed the luckiest punch in the history of big name fighters being kayoed the voices did exactly what was confirmed to me that night in 2003...
"i told you roy jones wasn't S***"
That's why i'm glad i said
"if Roy jones beats Ruiz no matters what happens afterwards RJJ is the best boxer/fighter since Ray Robinson" and IMO still is.....
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Yeah quite possibly...I jus made a point to u there on another thread.
The reason that i don't regard Roy highly as a heavyweight is because in comparison to LL who reigned and defended as a champ, Roy didn. So don't think by any means im tryna take away from RJJ, i idolise the guy k :)
No other heavyweight wanted to fight him.
He was going to fight Corrie Sanders next(who had just KO'd Wladimer) and Corrie didn't want to fight Roy and vacated the title, and Roy didn't see the honor in fighting a vacant title he said he wanted to beat a champion to truly be a champion(right on Roy!)
So he went to Lennox and Lennox said he was probably gonna be packing it up(retiring)
So he moved down to fight Tarver since no Heavyweight wanted to fight him except probably Byrd but King kept that fight from happening for some reason
Roy's FATHER stepped in and stopped him fighting BUSTER DOUGLAS!!!!...
Because he was worried for Roy's health.....Thats not a story thats fact!
The reason he took the Ruiz fight was because Ruiz was a no risk fight as ruiz was not a huge puncher. Roy was great, even an ATG, but come on....
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Well IMO Roy is the greatest Super Middleweight ever, i kinda dont judge as all inclusive p4p, i think it's just too difficult to judge, But yeah, best super midddle ever.
and light heavyweight..he'd crush moore, foster, spinks, maxim,
but no conn;)
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So he went to Lennox and Lennox said he was probably gonna be packing it up(retiring)
Let's be honest here, this isn't exactly how it went down.
Roy said he'd fight Tyson or Lewis,
if he was paid $100 million for the fight. This is the oldest trick in the book, it's called "intentionally pricing yourself out of a fight."
Now I don't blame Roy at all for not wanting to fight Lennox, but let's not make it seem like Lewis is the one who backed down.
i know...lennox said no one was going pay for a two round fight..implying that he'd kayo jones....besides there wasn't any need for jones to fight lennox....
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Jones would have given all of them a good fight, but beat them all i kinda doubt it, Ali was just as smart as Jones in the ring and well i think that he would have been able to take Jones, also at LHW i think that Michael Moorer would have given him hell, he was an ok HW but remember Moorer was an outstanding LHW, winning all of his fights by KO in that division, he was a pretty smart fighter, a southpaw, quick, great power, and also an extremely good and effective right jab
are you forgetting that rjj started at 154? ali was an amateur HW...the fact that many wonder how he would have done against the great heavy's of alltime is a subconscious concession to the fact that he's p4p the best boxer ever.....
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I disagree with some of those nsame you put and i also think some boxers at Middleweight would stand a chance like Gerald Mc.
Gerald was too open and didn't have the ring intelligence that roy had..roy would out point him or possibly stop him
Easy to say that but Gerald charges right at you and im not sure if Roy can avoid Geralds bombs for that long its a toss up.
Charges right at you, eh? Check out Jones v.Brannon to see how Roy dealt with that.
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Having watched the Jones Jr./Ruiz fight again I was surprised to hear a little HBO cast quarrel somewhere in the region of the 10th round. In this debate George Foreman lambasted both Merchant and Lampley for being "hypocrites," by promoting a fight and then turning on the runner up and taking away from the fights credibility. This really hit home for me as i find it incredibly similar to HBO's attitude toward the Hatton/Castillo fight. Both Ruiz/Castillo were forces to be reckoned with before the fight in all interviews, promotions and were mentioned severeal times in preceeding fights. To be honest although they do provide a good coverage, I personally am becoming increasingly frustrated with HBO's cast's attitude toward boxing. But all Props to Big George Foreman.
ok
Here is some interesting ranting at least the first 3 are funny
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Why do Jim Lampley and Larry Merchant seem to dislike George Foreman -their previous partner- so much? - Yahoo! Answers
It has to do with what you have been saying.
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Gerald was too open and didn't have the ring intelligence that roy had..roy would out point him or possibly stop him
Easy to say that but Gerald charges right at you and im not sure if Roy can avoid Geralds bombs for that long its a toss up.
Charges right at you, eh? Check out Jones v.Brannon to see how Roy dealt with that.
Exactly. Not has good a fighter as G-Man but this is similar to what he would have done to him. This is a good fight to show how good Roy was both defensively and offensively.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6d0WOk-QuU
The first video I posted is better but it won't let it play it so this will have to do!
YouTube - Jones v Brannon
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:rolleyes:All i remember is that all chances of Ruiz winning were taken away by Nady after about 20 seconds. Same thing happened with Hatton against Mayweather.
Strange the two poster boys for American boxing getting help.
No doubt they probably would have won. I wonder how Oscar vs Pacquaio turns out
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:rolleyes:All i remember is that all chances of Ruiz winning were taken away by Nady after about 20 seconds. Same thing happened with Hatton against Mayweather.
Strange the two poster boys for American boxing getting help.
No doubt they probably would have won. I wonder how Oscar vs Pacquaio turns out
Come on give credit where its due! Mayweather and Jones were just far too good for Hatton and Ruiz, plain and simple. The referees weren't great but there you go. If your good enough you can overcome that. And I am a big Hatton fan so you can't accuse me of being a hater or anything.
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Ok enough with all this Roy Jones Jr was great but not the greatest some where in the top 20 i give him that no more. He would of had problems with Micheal Spinks and few others that were mentioned in the LHW and as HW he loses to all the greats for god sake he beat Ruiz big deal. He was not the champ he was a chump with a trinket belt thats all. Now if he fought Lennox Lewis then i would of gave him props for it. But i dont blame Roy Jones Jr for not wanting to fight Lennox Lewis because he would of killed Roy Jones Jr. Wait you know what i wish he would of fought Lennox Lewis i like to see him put into a coma just joking i dont hate Roy Jones Jr i just hate his fans they just overrate the guy way to much.
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Well IMO Roy is the greatest Super Middleweight ever, i kinda dont judge as all inclusive p4p, i think it's just too difficult to judge, But yeah, best super midddle ever.
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Yeah, I thought it was really cowardly on Merchant and Lampley's part. People can say what they want about Ruiz but he was a good solid heavyweight. And for them to suddenly turn around and say all those things was just rediculous because it was disrespectful to Ruiz who was out there giving it his all, and it was disrespectful to Jones because it was downplaying what a fantastic achievement that really was.
