how many times has the reigning undisputed P4P No 1. been dominated...

I mean soundedly beaten without question...

I would say RJJ v TONEY but i've heard a lot of people try to say crap about toney's weight...

Trinidad was considered by many the P4P king when he fought B-Hop. I know, I know, some people here will say that Jones Jr was always #1 until he lost. You know that old hind sight is 20/20 thing but the fact is that at that time Jones was being seriously criticized by his level of opposition and Tito's big run to the MW division had placed him #1 in many boxing fans P4P lists.....

And then he was dominated :(

Lloyd Honeyghan dominated Don Curry.

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Trinidad was considered by many the P4P king when he fought B-Hop. I know, I know, some people here will say that Jones Jr was always #1 until he lost. You know that old hind sight is 20/20 thing but the fact is that at that time Jones was being seriously criticized by his level of opposition and Tito's big run to the MW division had placed him #1 in many boxing fans P4P lists.....

And then he was dominated :(

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tito was never number 1...he only beat joppy and that no way would have had him leap shane mosley who was still undefeated and ranked no 2...

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I mean soundedly beaten without question...

I would say RJJ v TONEY but i've heard a lot of people try to say crap about toney's weight...

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I can't remember that far back but was James Toney ever considered P4P number 1? ???

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I mean soundedly beaten without question...

I would say RJJ v TONEY but i've heard a lot of people try to say crap about toney's weight...

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I can't remember that far back but was James Toney ever considered P4P number 1? ???

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Yep Toney was the p4p 1 going into that fight..44-0 with wins over fighters starting with his Kayo over Michael Nunn , then McCallum, Barkley, Williams, Johnson, Thorton, Wolfe, and Littles...The fight with Roy was billed as "SomeBody's "0" has to Go!"

Enzo Maccarinelli dominated Bobby Gunn last time out...does that count? ;D


Seriously though, I know many will disagree with this, but quite a few people called Naz p4p best at a time and he was dominated by Barrera. (I know people will say it was stupid, but i remember him being considered that.)

Pernell Whitaker vs Julio Cesar Chavez.

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Pernell Whitaker vs Julio Cesar Chavez.

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Pernell Whitaker vs Julio Cesar Chavez.

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that was a draw

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He still dominated Chavez totally outboxed him.

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Pernell Whitaker vs Julio Cesar Chavez.

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Yeah but he clearly dominated Chavez in that fight, he just got robbed by the judges. Even everyone in the stands knew it that night, that Chavez was beaten.

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Pernell Whitaker vs Julio Cesar Chavez.

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Yeah but he clearly dominated Chavez in that fight, he just got robbed by the judges. Even everyone in the stands knew it that night, that Chavez was beaten.

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was chavez p4p no 1?

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Pernell Whitaker vs Julio Cesar Chavez.

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Yeah but he clearly dominated Chavez in that fight, he just got robbed by the judges. Even everyone in the stands knew it that night, that Chavez was beaten.

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was chavez p4p no 1?

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Im pretty sure he was im not sure though.

I'm not sure about "undisputed #1 PFP," but there have been plenty of times where a #1 PFP candidate was dominated.

Toney was considered by many to be the #2 PFP guy (behind Pernell) when Roy dominated him.
Chavez was considered #1 PFP when Pernell (who was considered #2 or tied for 1st) dominated him.

Mosley was considered top 2 (behind only Jones) when Forrest dominated him.

because would have though Sweet pea was rated higher

Peter Manfredo was p4p the best when CalzAghe beat him / dominated him RIGHT ? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Pernell Whitaker vs Julio Cesar Chavez.

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Put down the boxrecord ::**

That was a screwjob..Pernell won the fight

Buster Douglas beating Tyson ??

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Buster Douglas beating Tyson ??

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Thats a fair one ;)

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Trinidad was considered by many the P4P king when he fought B-Hop. I know, I know, some people here will say that Jones Jr was always #1 until he lost. You know that old hind sight is 20/20 thing but the fact is that at that time Jones was being seriously criticized by his level of opposition and Tito's big run to the MW division had placed him #1 in many boxing fans P4P lists.....

And then he was dominated :(

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tito was never number 1...he only beat joppy and that no way would have had him leap shane mosley who was still undefeated and ranked no 2...

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The very day of the fight against B-Hop HBO posted their P4P list and Tito was their #1. I understand Jones being ranked higher than him but whatever Mosley did to be placed #1 I never understood.

I see alot of confusion on who was #1 when...Was Chavez #1 when he fought Sweet Pea?, was Toney #1 when he fought Jones. Guys THERE IS NO OFFICIAL P4P LIST. It is a mithical rating. P4P lists are entirely subjective. My point is that there is no such thing as "The reigning undisputed p4p number 1".

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Lloyd Honeyghan dominated Don Curry.

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CC for that one, one of the more forgotten upsets in history.

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Trinidad was considered by many the P4P king when he fought B-Hop. I know, I know, some people here will say that Jones Jr was always #1 until he lost. You know that old hind sight is 20/20 thing but the fact is that at that time Jones was being seriously criticized by his level of opposition and Tito's big run to the MW division had placed him #1 in many boxing fans P4P lists.....

And then he was dominated :(

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tito was never number 1...he only beat joppy and that no way would have had him leap shane mosley who was still undefeated and ranked no 2...

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The very day of the fight against B-Hop HBO posted their P4P list and Tito was their #1. I understand Jones being ranked higher than him but whatever Mosley did to be placed #1 I never understood.

I see alot of confusion on who was #1 when...Was Chavez #1 when he fought Sweet Pea?, was Toney #1 when he fought Jones. Guys THERE IS NO OFFICIAL P4P LIST. It is a mithical rating. P4P lists are entirely subjective. My point is that there is no such thing as "The reigning undisputed p4p number 1".

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i know, but like now...marquez and pacman both have cases, but floyd would be the general no 1. and until he loses pacman and marquez will be 2 and 3..or even winky for that matter..who would be no in my book if he beat bhop..seeing as he was robbed against taylor

Ali beating Foreman

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Buster Douglas beating Tyson ??

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the only fight in which the rematch happens in the same 12 rnds lol, Tyson Ko's Douglas (the delayed count), and giving Douglas all the credit in the world, he got up after what should have been 10 and recollects himself and finishes beating up Tyson badly