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Jones says he’s ready for Trinidad comeback fight
By Paul Upham: Roy Jones Jr has to deal with the undefeated Anthony Hanshaw first on July 14, but the former pound for pound best in boxing leader says he is ready to take on a come-backing Felix “Tito” Trinidad, if the Puerto Rican great is serious about a return.
http://www.secondsout.com/news/index...s=534&cs=22268
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Re: Jones says he’s ready for Trinidad comeback fight
jones would slaughter tito espically due to the long period of inactivity that trinidad has experienced for a great while
roy sees this potential match as the cash cow that it would be. theres no risk in this fight for rjj
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
jones would slaughter tito espically due to the long period of inactivity that trinidad has experienced for a great while
roy sees this potential match as the cash cow that it would be. theres no risk in this fight for rjj
Tito would be well out of his depth at Supermiddleweight and Lightheavyweight.
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sorry imo Jones wins no matter what, no way this fight is going to happen anywhere above 160 for Tito and no way is Jones going down to 160, Jones may not be the p4p Jones that would beat anyone, but he does still have the tools and speed to beat Tito, and IMO beat him badly, a Trinidad comeback is not really a bad thing but he should be looking for first of all, tune up fights, and second of all fights against the likes of Kelly Pavlik, Jermain Taylor, Edison Miranda, Felix Sturm, Cory Spinks, or even drop down to 154 and fight fellow compatriot Daniel Santos as a warm up fight
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So you are saying that this fight match up is a show to see what Oscar or other will do or offer?
O sea le esta metiendo las cabras a Oscar o a PBF a ver que dicen o Hacen?
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mas o menos, pq enverdad mano yo dudo q Tito vaya a subir a las 168 y menos a las 175 libras, y si lo hace, dudo mucho q le va ir bn, Tito debe quedarce en las 160 o 154 libras, y ps ni buscar la revancha con De La Hoya, esa pelea se tenia q dar como 5 o 6 a~nos atras, ya es muy tarde pa mi, creo q Tito le gana a Taylor, la defensa de Taylor es horrible y le gusta intercambiar los golpes demasiado y despues sus ultimas peleas se ve q su golpe no es tan duro, y en mi opinion Tito sera el q pega mas duro en esa pelea y tiene buena oportunidad de conectar pq ps como dije la defensa de Taylor es bn mierda
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tito is a known KO artist. roy might get gun shy and run dance around the ring doing nothing for 12rds like he did in the 3rd tarver fight.
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INteresting!!!! :scratchchin:
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would be a good match.
good match yet if Jones wants it so much he must think it is an easy win for him. Jones never called out a great challenge. I know I will get some sad clicks for this one but it is true. Jones is too excited to fight Tito. he knows he can stop Tito since Tito has not fought at supermiddleweight ever and Tito has been inactive for 2 years.
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
jones would slaughter tito espically due to the long period of inactivity that trinidad has experienced for a great while
roy sees this potential match as the cash cow that it would be. theres no risk in this fight for rjj
Roy has been very inactive aswell in all fairness..
I dont think roy has the same knockout power anymore either..and i think the fact that tito has only had a couple of high contact fights could work to his advantage when it comes to being inactive in a battle of past prime legends..
But still ..all factors does make for an interesting fight imo ;)
Im still not sure its the right fight for either guy really.. Or that it prooves anything but who has more gas left out of two half full legendary cans..Lol
Peace
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I agree that RJJ is not the best fight for Tito. For me, there's too much weight difference. As someone said, Jones will probably not come down to 160. And Tito has never ventured above that weight.
If Tito's serious about the comeback, there's lots of other intriguing matchups that could be made. Personally, and even though they're both past their prime, I still think the public would eat up a match between Tito and De La Hoya (myself included). There's also Jermaine Taylor.
Hell, even a rematch against Bernard wouldn't be out of the question, assuming BHop sticks around that long. He's probably close to retiring by this time.
But the bottom line is Tito's mentality in coming back. IMO, he's got absolutely nothing to prove, or add to his already legendary status. (Was watching some old Tito fights the other day and got kinda nostalgic for the good ol' days). But if he's serious about coming back, all the more power to him. Boxing misses him as much as he misses boxing.
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Tito needs a tune up. You dont come back and fight Roy Jones without one and Jones obviously isnt what he was but hes been more active than Tito.
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i don't see the point in this fight. pretty pointless. jones would beat trinidad at light heavy quite easy in my opinion.
trinidad should have a tune up fight then face golden boy .
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remember tito wan pbf
tito at smw maybe he can box good ay that weight
at 175 hell naw
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I guess RJJ is ready for a guy that's a natural WW & has'nt fought in 2 years since being shut out by winky @ 160.
What would this fight prove?
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a guy earning a living. As long as there is a market for this fight then good for them. But if these guys want to attempt to fight there way back to the top they may want to look in another direction. If they're lookin for paydays (I would'nt blame them) then good luck to them but they should not be put into the mix until they fight top 10 guys. Just my opinion.
He's ready for that $$$ that Tito's name along with his may be able to bring to the table.
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
jones would slaughter tito espically due to the long period of inactivity that trinidad has experienced for a great while
roy sees this potential match as the cash cow that it would be. theres no risk in this fight for rjj
Tito would be well out of his depth at Supermiddleweight and Lightheavyweight.
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
sorry imo Jones wins no matter what, no way this fight is going to happen anywhere above 160 for Tito and no way is Jones going down to 160, Jones may not be the p4p Jones that would beat anyone, but he does still have the tools and speed to beat Tito, and IMO beat him badly, a Trinidad comeback is not really a bad thing but he should be looking for first of all, tune up fights, and second of all fights against the likes of Kelly Pavlik, Jermain Taylor, Edison Miranda, Felix Sturm, Cory Spinks, or even drop down to 154 and fight fellow compatriot Daniel Santos as a warm up fight
Totally agree with the three of ya's!
Anyone worth his or her boxing salts should know what side of the fence this one falls on...the one covered in bullshit!!!
Which is what this fight is or will be if it materializes...BULLSHIT!
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Tito was a big puncher a WW & looked like he could'nt break an egg against Winky @ MW. RJJ is just too big & still way too fast for Tito to deal with. This is a fight that RJJ would love. I agree with u Wacko, this is a BULLS**T fight that I beleive would not do boxing any good at all.
The shameful thing is that with good promoting there is a market for this type of fight.
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The shameful thing is that with good promoting there is a market for this type of fight.
:coolclick: Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
I agree that RJJ is not the best fight for Tito. For me, there's too much weight difference. As someone said, Jones will probably not come down to 160. And Tito has never ventured above that weight.
If Tito's serious about the comeback, there's lots of other intriguing matchups that could be made. Personally, and even though they're both past their prime, I still think the public would eat up a match between Tito and De La Hoya (myself included). There's also Jermaine Taylor.
Hell, even a rematch against Bernard wouldn't be out of the question, assuming BHop sticks around that long. He's probably close to retiring by this time.
But the bottom line is Tito's mentality in coming back. IMO, he's got absolutely nothing to prove, or add to his already legendary status. (Was watching some old Tito fights the other day and got kinda nostalgic for the good ol' days). But if he's serious about coming back, all the more power to him. Boxing misses him as much as he misses boxing.
I am totally burned out on Delahoya. Tito/Delahoya is not an attractive fight. The Jones/Tito is attractive yet Jones has all the advantages..
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I'm really stoaked about a Tito comeback. I just think he's chosen the wrong guy to do it against. I'm telling you, if Tito can still make 160, he could make all kinds of noise there. I don't see anybody there right now who would'nt have serious trouble with Tito. He might even tempt DLH and PBF to come up to 160 ad then just swim in all the $$$$ those fights would make.
Oh well, Tito was never the smartest of cats. Here's to hoping for a lucky pounch against Jones.
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I'm really stoaked about a Tito comeback. I just think he's chosen the wrong guy to do it against. I'm telling you, if Tito can still make 160, he could make all kinds of noise there. I don't see anybody there right now who would'nt have serious trouble with Tito. He might even tempt DLH and PBF to come up to 160 ad then just swim in all the $$$$ those fights would make.
Oh well, Tito was never the smartest of cats. Here's to hoping for a lucky pounch against Jones.
It's up to Tito's management who he gets in with. Like any fighter that loves to fight, I suspect Tito would get into the ring with just about anybody. He never ducked anyone in his career. But like you, I think RJJ is absolutely the worst opponent for Tito in his comeback. Too much weight difference, as I said in another post.
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I seriously doubt this fight will ever get made.
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WTF,what a pointless fight. However,you can see Tito's perspective,they probably offered him huge amounts of cash to come back and fight someone. RJJ,in this stage of his career,won't give a beating to anyone therefore Tito probably sees it as easy $$$ even if he does lose. Then there is a possible fight with Oscar.
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
mas o menos, pq enverdad mano yo dudo q Tito vaya a subir a las 168 y menos a las 175 libras, y si lo hace, dudo mucho q le va ir bn, Tito debe quedarce en las 160 o 154 libras, y ps ni buscar la revancha con De La Hoya, esa pelea se tenia q dar como 5 o 6 a~nos atras, ya es muy tarde pa mi, creo q Tito le gana a Taylor, la defensa de Taylor es horrible y le gusta intercambiar los golpes demasiado y despues sus ultimas peleas se ve q su golpe no es tan duro, y en mi opinion Tito sera el q pega mas duro en esa pelea y tiene buena oportunidad de conectar pq ps como dije la defensa de Taylor es bn mierda
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I bet De La Hoya has itchy feet thinking about the money that could be made on a rematch and avenging defeat, after this latest un-retirement.
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This would be a great but dangerous fight for both.
Roy Jones's chin was shown late in his career. When he got hit, we saw him go down.
Tito's chin has always been weak. and he has had trouble early in fights with boxing style fighters but then came in the later rounds to score KO's or a decision.
I don't believe in ring rust. That is what sparring is for and these are two great fighters that have fought for so long. Maybe for the first minute or two but thats about it. Tito doesn't need a tune-up, he needs to hope that his power is there for him in those weight classes, because if not, Jones will win an easy UD or maybe score a KO. If Tito's power is the same as he did in the other weight classes.....Than Good luck to RJJ.
Against Tito, you need to come in deffensively minded. I don't think RJJ will!
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
I agree that RJJ is not the best fight for Tito. For me, there's too much weight difference. As someone said, Jones will probably not come down to 160. And Tito has never ventured above that weight.
If Tito's serious about the comeback, there's lots of other intriguing matchups that could be made. Personally, and even though they're both past their prime, I still think the public would eat up a match between Tito and De La Hoya (myself included). There's also Jermaine Taylor.
Hell, even a rematch against Bernard wouldn't be out of the question, assuming BHop sticks around that long. He's probably close to retiring by this time.
But the bottom line is Tito's mentality in coming back. IMO, he's got absolutely nothing to prove, or add to his already legendary status. (Was watching some old Tito fights the other day and got kinda nostalgic for the good ol' days). But if he's serious about coming back, all the more power to him. Boxing misses him as much as he misses boxing.
Would you seriously want to see Tito vs DLH again? Tito vs Mosley would be the one for me!
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I agree that RJJ is not the best fight for Tito. For me, there's too much weight difference. As someone said, Jones will probably not come down to 160. And Tito has never ventured above that weight.
If Tito's serious about the comeback, there's lots of other intriguing matchups that could be made. Personally, and even though they're both past their prime, I still think the public would eat up a match between Tito and De La Hoya (myself included). There's also Jermaine Taylor.
Hell, even a rematch against Bernard wouldn't be out of the question, assuming BHop sticks around that long. He's probably close to retiring by this time.
But the bottom line is Tito's mentality in coming back. IMO, he's got absolutely nothing to prove, or add to his already legendary status. (Was watching some old Tito fights the other day and got kinda nostalgic for the good ol' days). But if he's serious about coming back, all the more power to him. Boxing misses him as much as he misses boxing.
Would you seriously want to see Tito vs DLH again? Tito vs Mosley would be the one for me!
Agree that Mosley would be a great fight. I have to admit that Tito should have better options for his come back since RJJ will be too heavy for him if this fight is at 175. I'm not sure if RJJ would still be willing to make 168 as he was considering at some point when this fight was first mentioned and Tito was at the top of his career. This may be the best chance Tito have assuming that RJJ will need too much efforts to make 168. But, honestly I believe Tito should be looking to other fights such as Mosley, Taylor (I think Tito have chances of winning by KO), De La Hoya. But to watch Tito-De La Hoya we will probably will have to see De La Hoya - King first.
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IMO tito was out of his depth at middleweight in his prime, what makes him think he can come back at middle now or even higher is beyond me.. roy jones may be shot, but he aint shot enough for tito to beat...
Has tito lost all his cash or sumin?
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Originally Posted by Preme
IMO tito was out of his depth at middleweight in his prime, what makes him think he can come back at middle now or even higher is beyond me.. roy jones may be shot, but he aint shot enough for tito to beat...
Has tito lost all his cash or sumin?
If you ask me, I believe the optimal weight for Tito was 154. At this weight I saw him faster and stronger than 147 and 160. Cash, I don't think is a need for Tito. Here in the island he is recognized for maintaining a healthy life with his family, no smoking, no drinking, vising orphan homes, etc.
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Originally Posted by Preme
IMO tito was out of his depth at middleweight in his prime, what makes him think he can come back at middle now or even higher is beyond me.. roy jones may be shot, but he aint shot enough for tito to beat...
Has tito lost all his cash or sumin?
If you ask me, I believe the optimal weight for Tito was 154. At this weight I saw him faster and stronger than 147 and 160. Cash, I don't think is a need for Tito. Here in the island he is recognized for maintaining a healthy life with his family, no smoking, no drinking, vising orphan homes, etc.
i know he is a total legend in his home country,and well well known and respected all over the world, i just don't get why he wants to come back for:/
Really can't see there being anything for him to gain by coming back, he surly mustknow he can't win any respected title now?
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well there's one thing that he's never done and it has to be bothering him, he never won a world title after losing
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IMO tito was out of his depth at middleweight in his prime, what makes him think he can come back at middle now or even higher is beyond me.. roy jones may be shot, but he aint shot enough for tito to beat...
Has tito lost all his cash or sumin?
If you ask me, I believe the optimal weight for Tito was 154. At this weight I saw him faster and stronger than 147 and 160. Cash, I don't think is a need for Tito. Here in the island he is recognized for maintaining a healthy life with his family, no smoking, no drinking, vising orphan homes, etc.
i know he is a total legend in his home country,and well well known and respected all over the world, i just don't get why he wants to come back for:/
Really can't see there being anything for him to gain by coming back,
he surly mustknow he can't win any respected title now?
I'm not sure about this. 160 is wide open right now. We have Taylor, Sturm and Abraham. Not easy fights for anybody but one not so impressive champion and two very beatable world title holders.
Even now, I have no doubt that Tito would destroy Abraham.
Sturms style could give Trinidad trouble but remember this guy was KOed by um...whats his name (sorry, drawing blank here) ex 154 champ. Imagine what Tito could do.
Taylor would have to seriously focus and be ready if he fights Tito because Tito's come forward style (similar to Pavlik) will give him loads of trouble if he can't impose his size and will on Trinidad. Taylor's youth and strength should allow him to overpower Trinidad but that won't be easy. Not against one of the hardest hitters to come in these divisions since Hearns.
Some of you guys are saying that Tito had no power at 160. Ask that to Joppy who has never before or again been knocked out. His three wins at 160 ended in Knockout. He never connected a solid hard shot against Wright or Hopkins.
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Originally Posted by Preme
IMO tito was out of his depth at middleweight in his prime, what makes him think he can come back at middle now or even higher is beyond me.. roy jones may be shot, but he aint shot enough for tito to beat...
Has tito lost all his cash or sumin?
If you ask me, I believe the optimal weight for Tito was 154. At this weight I saw him faster and stronger than 147 and 160. Cash, I don't think is a need for Tito. Here in the island he is recognized for maintaining a healthy life with his family, no smoking, no drinking, vising orphan homes, etc.
i know he is a total legend in his home country,and well well known and respected all over the world, i just don't get why he wants to come back for:/
Really can't see there being anything for him to gain by coming back,
he surly mustknow he can't win any respected title now?
I'm not sure about this. 160 is wide open right now. We have Taylor, Sturm and Abraham. Not easy fights for anybody but one not so impressive champion and two very beatable world title holders.
Even now, I have no doubt that Tito would destroy Abraham.
Sturms style could give Trinidad trouble but remember this guy was KOed by um...whats his name (sorry, drawing blank here) ex 154 champ. Imagine what Tito could do.
Taylor would have to seriously focus and be ready if he fights Tito because Tito's come forward style (similar to Pavlik) will give him loads of trouble if he can't impose his size and will on Trinidad. Taylor's youth and strength should allow him to overpower Trinidad but that won't be easy. Not against one of the hardest hitters to come in these divisions since Hearns.
Some of you guys are saying that Tito had no power at 160. Ask that to Joppy who has never before or again been knocked out. His three wins at 160 ended in Knockout. He never connected a solid hard shot against Wright or Hopkins.
I love Tito but the thing of him being at 160 or above(which is what he would have to be to fight RJJ) is that he would be small for the weight. He would have power but look at guys like Pavlik,Miranda,even Talyor,they would be so much bigger and naturally stronger than him!
And he is coming back for the $$$. If someone dangles a large amount in front of you,9 times out of 10,it will bring the "retired" fighter back and Tito is no exception.
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IMO tito was out of his depth at middleweight in his prime, what makes him think he can come back at middle now or even higher is beyond me.. roy jones may be shot, but he aint shot enough for tito to beat...
Has tito lost all his cash or sumin?
If you ask me, I believe the optimal weight for Tito was 154. At this weight I saw him faster and stronger than 147 and 160. Cash, I don't think is a need for Tito. Here in the island he is recognized for maintaining a healthy life with his family, no smoking, no drinking, vising orphan homes, etc.
i know he is a total legend in his home country,and well well known and respected all over the world, i just don't get why he wants to come back for:/
Really can't see there being anything for him to gain by coming back,
he surly mustknow he can't win any respected title now?
I'm not sure about this. 160 is wide open right now. We have Taylor, Sturm and Abraham. Not easy fights for anybody but one not so impressive champion and two very beatable world title holders.
Even now, I have no doubt that Tito would destroy Abraham.
Sturms style could give Trinidad trouble but remember this guy was KOed by um...whats his name (sorry, drawing blank here) ex 154 champ. Imagine what Tito could do.
Taylor would have to seriously focus and be ready if he fights Tito because Tito's come forward style (similar to Pavlik) will give him loads of trouble if he can't impose his size and will on Trinidad. Taylor's youth and strength should allow him to overpower Trinidad but that won't be easy. Not against one of the hardest hitters to come in these divisions since Hearns.
Some of you guys are saying that Tito had no power at 160. Ask that to Joppy who has never before or again been knocked out. His three wins at 160 ended in Knockout. He never connected a solid hard shot against Wright or Hopkins.
I love Tito but the thing of him being at 160 or above(which is what he would have to be to fight RJJ) is that he would be small for the weight. He would have power but look at guys like Pavlik,Miranda,even Talyor,they would be so much bigger and naturally stronger than him!
And he is coming back for the $$$. If someone dangles a large amount in front of you,9 times out of 10,it will bring the "retired" fighter back and Tito is no exception.
That's so true. He must have seen how much money DLH made his last fight and thought..Man if I could make half of that I would be happy. It don't matter that he's already rich. It's just not easy to turn that down. I can just imagine Don King discussing the kind of numbers a Tito fight could bring to the table and Trinidad's mouth wattering with anticipation and possibility.
I hope his handlers are smart and go for someone other than RJJ. That is a big mistake. Heck I'd rather see him fight against Maywether. At 160 he would have a deacent shot IMO.
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If he is insisting upon coming back,I'd prefer to see against someone like Oscar/PBF. RJJ is way too big.Guys like Pavlik are Taylor are way too big. I have seen the name of the winner of BHop/Winky being mentioned,that would be strange and stupid in equal measure!
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
If he is insisting upon coming back,I'd prefer to see against someone like Oscar/PBF. RJJ is way too big.Guys like Pavlik are Taylor are way too big. I have seen the name of the winner of BHop/Winky being mentioned,that would be strange and stupid in equal measure!
Agreed 1000%.
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
If he is insisting upon coming back,I'd prefer to see against someone like Oscar/PBF. RJJ is way too big.Guys like Pavlik are Taylor are way too big. I have seen the name of the winner of BHop/Winky being mentioned,that would be strange and stupid in equal measure!
HAHAHA CC El Gamo for that comment. I think more stupid than strange.
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
If he is insisting upon coming back,I'd prefer to see against someone like Oscar/PBF. RJJ is way too big.Guys like Pavlik are Taylor are way too big. I have seen the name of the winner of BHop/Winky being mentioned,that would be strange and stupid in equal measure!
HAHAHA CC El Gamo for that comment. I think more stupid than strange.
;D ;D ;D CC back brother. Man,I love Tito but just thinking of him coming back,losing, and retiring would be bad! It would give more fuel to those who criticise him.
