IS BOXING TOO HARD ON PEOPLE THAT LOSE??
if a boxer (prospect or establised) Wins a lot and then all of a sudden loses, he drops off the face of the earth. ie Jeff lacy, RJJ, Gatti, etc and known as shit fighters i dont know maybe i'm just ranting :laugh:
what yall think
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Not really,it how you lose,and how you respond to losing
Hopkins lost to Jones got right back on his horse,and made himself a legend
Jones recently lost and responded by more losing
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This is a good point mate alot of the british public loved Naz thought he was a great british fighter big KO wins against good fighters then he has a bad night against Barrera and then everything he did before is forgotten.If you mention him now he was overrated or just simply were'nt that good yet Trinidad did a similar thing lost in a big fight had a fight then retired but he's still a god.I could go on all day but im not going to.
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Originally Posted by Ice Man
if a boxer (prospect or established) Wins a lot and then all of a sudden loses, he drops off the face of the earth. ie Jeff lacy, RJJ, Gatti, etc and known as S*** fighters i dont know maybe i'm just ranting :laugh:
what yall think
Lacy is injured. RJJ and Gatti have lost consistently, and both have fights this month.
Still, I understand what you are saying once the names are removed. Say we never saw Valuev again for instance.
CC Bobby Drake
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Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
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Originally Posted by Ice Man
if a boxer (prospect or established) Wins a lot and then all of a sudden loses, he drops off the face of the earth. ie Jeff lacy, RJJ, Gatti, etc and known as S*** fighters i dont know maybe i'm just ranting :laugh:
what yall think
Lacy is injured. RJJ and Gatti have lost consistently, and both have fights this month.
Still, I understand what you are saying once the names are removed. Say we never saw Valuev again for instance.
CC Bobby Drake
Again its how you respond to it,and how you lose
Ali wasnt undefeated,Lewis came back from bad losses,the Klitschskos find a way to avenge losses,hell Tyson made himself a force in the division again after the DOuglas loss,even if it was really a bit of a mirage
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
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Originally Posted by Ice Man
if a boxer (prospect or established) Wins a lot and then all of a sudden loses, he drops off the face of the earth. ie Jeff lacy, RJJ, Gatti, etc and known as S*** fighters i dont know maybe i'm just ranting :laugh:
what yall think
Lacy is injured. RJJ and Gatti have lost consistently, and both have fights this month.
Still, I understand what you are saying once the names are removed. Say we never saw Valuev again for instance.
CC Bobby Drake
Again its how you respond to it,and how you lose
Ali wasnt undefeated,Lewis came back from bad losses,the Klitschskos find a way to avenge losses,hell Tyson made himself a force in the division again after the DOuglas loss,even if it was really a bit of a mirage
Trainer, ol pal... you had me right up until "mirage." ;)
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In all honesty I dont feel Tyson got exposed against DOuglas,he was fighting a notoriously lazy training boxer who decided to show up in the best shape of his career,and Tysons corner was a mess
It was the Holyfield fights that exposed Tyson
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Watch his fights from the first-buster douglas. You'll see that even by the time tyosn got to buster douglas, he was in the decline.
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
Watch his fights from the first-buster douglas. You'll see that even by the time tyosn got to buster douglas, he was in the decline.
But nobody would really see it until Holyfield,thanks to a win against a fighter hed aldready beaten in Bruno,and a totally fraudulant Bruce Seldon(whose actually fighting again)
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
Watch his fights from the first-buster douglas. You'll see that even by the time tyosn got to buster douglas, he was in the decline.
But nobody would really see it until Holyfield,thanks to a win against a fighter hed aldready beaten in Bruno,and a totally fraudulant Bruce Seldon(whose actually fighting again)
Right. Even when we did see it, we pretended we didn't cause he was winning.
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
Watch his fights from the first-buster douglas. You'll see that even by the time tyosn got to buster douglas, he was in the decline.
But nobody would really see it until Holyfield,thanks to a win against a fighter hed aldready beaten in Bruno,and a totally fraudulant Bruce Seldon(whose actually fighting again)
Thats true. In retrospect you can see it, but as it happened in real time it probably took the holyfield fight to show he wasn't the same guy.
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
Watch his fights from the first-buster douglas. You'll see that even by the time tyosn got to buster douglas, he was in the decline.
But nobody would really see it until Holyfield,thanks to a win against a fighter hed aldready beaten in Bruno,and a totally fraudulant Bruce Seldon(whose actually fighting again)
Thats true. In retrospect you can see it, but as it happened in real time it probably took the holyfield fight to show he wasn't the same guy.
A lot of people WANTED Tyson to still be good,because as much as everyone flipped after the ear incident,he was good for the sport if for no reason other then people hated him.It generated intrest,and passion in the sport
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No, but everyone flocks to the undefeated fighters...even if they havent beat anyone. Seems like once you get that first loss you will see who your true fans are, they are the ones that dont write you off immediately. Fight fans can be fickle just like any sport.
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i agree wit u thas y alot fighterss are scared to lose
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The good thing about boxing is that the comeback is almost as easy to sell as an unbeaten fighter.
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Well one thing you have to remember is that in boxing just like all sports you have bandwagon fans. The ones who only like a guy when he wins.
I know people like that with all sport. Like in football. The are the fan of a team that wins the Super Bowl until next year when a new team wins. Same for the world series.
No different in boxing. Soon as a guy loses he was a bum. He was over rated. He was exposed. He should have quit long ago. And it continues.
Look at it like this. The guy who beat the the established boxer or top prospect gets it even worse.
Unless he is already a top fighter.
The guy who beats the opponent or prospect either beat an old man or they beat an over rated fighter.
Besides with the money we pay to watch the sport we have the right to be harsh on the fighters
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Boxers are too hard on people that lose.
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If im a fan of a fighter i stick with him win lose or draw im a fan of the fighter and what he does not the record.For e.g im a fan of Audley Harrison have been since olympics and and no matter how many times he loses i will stick by him as a fan he had a good start then went flat then did a job on Williams then got KO'd by Sprott but im still a fan same as i stuck with Tyson,Naz,Eubank,Benn,Witter,Barrera and many many more.
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Originally Posted by Punching Princess
Well one thing you have to remember is that in boxing just like all sports you have bandwagon fans. The ones who only like a guy when he wins.
I know people like that with all sport. Like in football. The are the fan of a team that wins the Super Bowl until next year when a new team wins. Same for the world series.
No different in boxing. Soon as a guy loses he was a bum. He was over rated. He was exposed. He should have quit long ago. And it continues.
Look at it like this. The guy who beat the the established boxer or top prospect gets it even worse.
Unless he is already a top fighter.
The guy who beats the opponent or prospect either beat an old man or they beat an over rated fighter.
Besides with the money we pay to watch the sport we have the right to be harsh on the fighters
Coolclick#10 princess good point on the bandwagon fans ;)
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Originally Posted by TYSONMAYWEATHER
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Originally Posted by Punching Princess
Well one thing you have to remember is that in boxing just like all sports you have bandwagon fans. The ones who only like a guy when he wins.
I know people like that with all sport. Like in football. The are the fan of a team that wins the Super Bowl until next year when a new team wins. Same for the world series.
No different in boxing. Soon as a guy loses he was a bum. He was over rated. He was exposed. He should have quit long ago. And it continues.
Look at it like this. The guy who beat the the established boxer or top prospect gets it even worse.
Unless he is already a top fighter.
The guy who beats the opponent or prospect either beat an old man or they beat an over rated fighter.
Besides with the money we pay to watch the sport we have the right to be harsh on the fighters
Coolclick#10 princess good point on the bandwagon fans ;)
I owe you a CC when I reach a 100....I am starting to get in cool click debt lol
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Look at other sports. When a hockey, basketball, nfl football, soccer (football) team(s)etc etc, win about 65% of their games, they are considered great. If a boxer only won 65% of his fights, he is considered crap. There is something wrong with this picture.
