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It has to be. A town of under 80,000. Harry Arroyo, Ray Boom Boom Mancini, Jeff Lampkin, Ernie Shavers (one of the hardest hitting heavyweights in history) Kelly the ghost Pavlik. Bantam champ Greg Richardson, I go back to Shavers, Ali said Shavers hit him harder than any other man. Thats including men like Foreman. Clearly coming from the best.
Frazier,Frazier,Frazier,Frazier,Witherspoon,Wither spoon,Hopkins,Briscoe,
Could go on forever actually
http://www.philadelphiaboxinghistory...ers_page03.htm
Phoenix or more specifically Scottsdale, Paradise Valley (suburbs of Phoenix)
have the best retired boxers
Ali, Tyson, Carbajal
:P
I'd have to go with brockton. One marciano out weighs a bunch of others that aren't marciano or Louisville by the same token for ali.
....Marvin Hagler is from Brockton too buddy
well there you go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Im naming big namers of youngstown. Do it per capita and get back with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
.....if you keep going on about Youngstown I think I may just go insane we have enough Ohioians or whatever you call yourselves on the board already, we don't need more! Especially ones who think their city is the best ever......I mean honestly the people who are famous and from Youngstown don't usually go back.....because it's a town of shut down mills and horrible unemploymentQuote:
Originally Posted by southakron314
You forgot the second highest murder rate in the nation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Billy Abel Troy Fletcher Frank Montgomery
Billy Abel, Jr. Jackie Floyd Al Moore
Perry Abney
Jack Fogarty Frankie Moore
Boland Abrams Johnny Forte Pal Moore
Robert Adams Tommy Forte Reddy Moore
Sidney 'Sweatpea' Adams Lew Fortuna Rodney Moore
Matt Adgie Billy Fox Willie Moore
Johnny Aiello Joe Frazier Tony Morgano
Johnny Alford Marvis Frazier Ben Moroz
Joe Amico Sailor Friedman Wesley Mouzon
Jay Anderson Tony Galento Battling Murray
Archie Andrews Guy Gargan Angelo Novelli
Frankie 'Kid' Anslem Joey Giardello Johnny O'Beck
Billy Arnold Georgie Gibbs Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
Jetson Arnold Bruce Gibson Young Jack O'Brien
Jerome Artis Billy Gillard Eddie O'Keefe
Joe Aurillo Johnny Gilmore Tommy O'Toole
Teddy Baldwin Eddie Giosa Manyon Padlo
Bobby Barrett Frankie Giosa Augie Pantellas
Dom Barrone George Godfrey Victor Pappa
Carmen Bartolomeo Nate Goldman Curtis Parker
Joe Bashara Ken Goldsby Billy Passan
Benny Bass Gene Gollotto Willie Patterson
Percy Bassett Jerome Goodman Billy Peacock
Vernon Beale Al Gordon Genaro Pelligrini
Kid Beebe Sammy Goss Shirley Pemberton
Jimmy Beecham Otis Graham Fred Pendelton
Joe Belfiore Bobby Green Eddie Petrone
Joe Bellotti Tony 'Dynamite' Green Ellis Phillips
Richie Bennett Joe Grim Mike Picciotti
George Benton Jack Gross Young Pierce
Johnny Bernardo Leon Haire Kid Primo
David Bey Pat Haley Dwight Muhammad Qawi
Tyrell Biggs Earl Hargrove Willie Reddish
Jack Blackburn Wicky Harkins Eddie Reed
Harry Blitman Gypsy Joe Harris David Reid
Joe Borrell Eugene 'Cyclone' Hart Leroy Roberts
Anthony Boyle Garnet 'Sugar' Hart Sam Robideau
Bobby Brandt Dan Hassett Young Robideau
Charles Brewer Al Hauser Ivan Robinson
Bennie Briscoe Grover Hayes Slim Jim Robinson
John Patrick Britt Alfonso Hayman Mike Rossman
Charlie 'Choo Choo' Brown Leroy Haynes Skinny Jimmy Rothwell
Cuban Bobby Brown Stanley 'Kitten' Hayward Al Rowe
Harry 'Kid' Brown Joe Heffernan Chicken Rubin
Henry 'Toothpick' Brown Dennis Heffernan Roger Russell
Santa Bucca Tommy Herman Unk Russell
Dan Bucceroni Robert 'Bam Bam' Hines Babe Ruth
Gene Buffalo Wade Hinnant Tommy Ruth
Young Gene Buffalo Gary Hinton Matthew Saad Muhammad
Vinnie Burgese Dave Holly Phil Sacks
Joe Butler Ike Hooks Freddie Sammons
Ernie Caesar Joe Hooks Tony Sarullo
Tim Callahan Bernard Hopkins Mario Saurennann
Marty Capasso Tommy Houck Charley Scott
Tony Caragliano Willie Houck Joe Shannon
Frankie Caris Kevin Howard Hatchetman Sheppard
Jimmy Carlini Johnny Hutchinson James Shuler
Johnny Carotenuto Cortez Jackson Marvin Shuler
Ken Carpenter Bob Jacobs Ernie Singletary
Johnny Carter Johnny Jadick Calvin Smith
Frankie Carto Harold Johnson Jesse Smith
Nunzio Carto Honeychile Johnson Jimmy Smith
Jethro Cason William 'Hammer' Jones Sammy Smith
Jimmy Champaigne Jake Josato Kid Snowden
Jeff Chandler Richie Kates Frankie Sodano
Baby Kid Chocolate Al Kauffman Jimmy Soo
Hank Cisco Benny Kauffman Billy Speary
Tony Cisco Young Ketchell Charley Spicer
Johnny Clark Pat Killen Roger Stafford
Von Clay Johnny Knight Marvin Stinson
Mike Cleary Mike Koranicki Isadore Strauss
Tex Cobb Danny Kramer Tony Suero
Bob Cofer Berlie Lanier Jimmy Sykes
Tommy Coleman George LaRover Chucky T
Jimmy Collins Dorsey Lay Nikita Tarhocker
Marty Collins Bill 'Caveman' Lee Tony 'Rocky' Tassone
Johnny Cook Jackie Lennon Eldrick Taylor
Eddie Cool Eddie Lenny Meldrick Taylor
Mike Cooper Harry Lenny Myron Taylor
Eddie Corma Battling Harry Leonard Lew Tendler
Chico Corsey Battling Levinsky Chicken Thompson
Tyrone Crawley Gussie Lewis Joe Tiplitz
Tommy Cross Harry Lewis Larry Torpey
Joe Cucinotti Sonny Liston Steve Traitz, Jr.
James Daly Harry Little Al Tribuani
Rudy Davis Kid Loche Joe Trofe
Vinnie DeCarlo Vinnie Lopez Dick Turner
Harry Decker Tommy Loughran Gil Turner
Harry 'Kid' Decker Frank Loughrey Najai Turpin
Eddie Dempsey Randy Mack Jimmy Tygh
Mickey Diamond Joe Maffei Frankie Tygh
Vic Diamond Billy Maher Eddie 'Kid' Wagner
Johnny 'Fishcake' Donaldson Teddy Mann Jersey Joe Walcott
Frankie Donato Percy Manning Patsy Wallace
Rudy Donato Johnny Marcelline Don Warner
Gus Dorazio Tommy Marciano Jimmy Washington
Danny Dougherty Basil Marie Jimmy Washington
Buster Drayton Charlie Martin William Watson
Marvin Edelman Jerry Martin Bobby 'Boogaloo' Watts
Walter Edgerton Leotis Martin Willie Weasel
J.D. Ellis John Martino Dick Welsh
Young Erne Broderick Mason Ike White
Al Ettore Al Massey Matty White
Alfonso Evans Lew Massey Bruce Williams
Mike Evans Len Matthews Ike Williams
Eddie Everett Matty Matthews Roy 'Tiger' Williams
Mike Everett Quenzell McCall Youngblood Williams
Tyrone Everett Tex McEwan Billy Willis
Fernando Fala Candy McFarland Jackie Willis
Danny Falco Brian McGinley Jimmy Wilson
Tony Falco Young McGovern Anthony Witherspoon
Norman Farrell John McQueen Tim Witherspoon
Marty Feldman Jimmy Mendo Henry 'Kid' Wolfe
Jesse Ferguson Tony Mesoroca Bobby Wolgast
Frankie Ferro Mel Middleton Johnny Wolgast
Nick Fiorentino Nate Miller Midget Wolgast
Roxy Fiorgione Frankie Mitchell Dick Young
Vincent Fiorgione Ray Mitchell Jimmy Young
Anthony Fletcher Willie 'The Worm' Monroe Lester 'Cueball' Young
Frank Fletcher Bob Montgomery Owen Ziegler
.....so Philadelphia it is
Theres a few that didnt make the list cause its a bit datedQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Mind,Ill give props to the Motor City
Pittsburgh is another one
Philly is just consistent,lately alot of very good fighters are coming out of FloridaQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
But Philly is one of the few places that when you say "Philly Fighter" an image comes
Some gyms have that rep,but a city?
....well it wasn't always a compliment to be a "philly fighter"
I'll take it as oneQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Hard assed,brutal on the inside,and one big punch away from ending it
Home sweet home
.....also defined as "a fighter who leaves everything in the gym"....so they sparred themselves out of fights basically.
Hard working....yeah a little too hard working for their own good sometimes
Hell bro,ya gotta do that just to get a trainer to look at youQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
I'm talking about already developed fighters
As embaressing as it is to admit this,Stallone must have done a bunch of research for the Rocky filmsQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
You can get kicked out of your locker pretty easy
And yes there is a tribunal that you have to go in front of if theres a question on your liscence
We explain that last one to people and they allways respond with "I thought that part was BS"
Check the PA liscence laws,theyre pretty archaic
LOL I can't believe he didn't Mention Hagler, thats one hell of a great argument for Brockton right there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Also, add the great Donnie "Master of Disaster" Long (aka the afro-having Tyson victim from the 80s) to the Youngstown, Ohio roster! ;D
Philly, Detroit, Brooklyn are pretty much legendary, I don't really know the states all that well but those cities stick out. For Youndstown to have a population of 80,000 is pretty amazing for that list of fighters. They must be some tough sons of bitches. Maybe there's something in the water, just like Iowa with wrestlers.
funny.....i didn't see Rocky Balboa on that list at all lol ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
Are you guys talking about where the fighters have been born OR their hometown/where they fight out of?
Cause I saw someone list Fraizer under Philly but he was born in South Carolina....
Also someone listed Hagler under Brockton but he was born in Newark...
Oh! yeah! for the Philly people don't leave out 'The Kid' Taylor ;)
Was Harry born in Youngstown? For some reason I thought he was born in Akron... ???Quote:
Originally Posted by southakron314
Brooklyns produced some good names (Birthplace)
Tyson, Bowe, Moorer, Zab, K. Kelley
did i see babe ruth??Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
Hometown isn't where you were born, its where you were raised. For some people its the same but for others a hospital is several miles away from where you live. Like michael moore was born in NY but for some reason he had home town listed as the city next to mine. It just works out that way sometimes.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
Thats why it is called the "Fighting City" of Philidelphia ;D
....or the city of brotherly love.....where they boo Santa Claus
The Burroughs need to get a good look too, Tyson, Bowe, Briggs are all from Brooklyn I believe
Dude philly fans would boo their own grandma if her funeral happened at an inconvienent time for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Theres a little more to it then thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
The Eagles had been awful for most of that decade,after the more or less dismantlement of their championship team
All that seasons the fans only hope was that theyd finish with the worst record in the league and be able to take OJ Simpson,who everybody knew was going at 1
But somehow the week before the bums managed to win a game,assuring the Buffalo Bills of the #1 and OJ
Now on top of it,it was a miserable day at Franklin Field,and almost all of the fans that were there were there for a Christmas Pagent theyd been promised by the team.By half time managment decided the field was too mucked up to be able to get the float out there.So they grabbed some 19 year old kid,put him in a seriously ratty Santa Suit,and tossed him out on the field
Thats when the booing started
Even so, thats probably the toughest city to be a pro athlete/team in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
I dont know,a couple of years ago they were throwing batteries in Denver,and theres allways the media glare of playing in NYC
Tell you one thing though,you win in that town youll never have to pay for your own meal again,people there still want to petition to get Rose in to the HOF
New York New York too. red hook and bensonhurst.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle