Official Taylor Vs Pavlik Poll (New Pavlik Training Vid Old School Style!Pg 14!)

Taylor-Pavlik official!
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WBC/WBO middleweight champion Jermain Taylor (27-0-1, 17 KOs) will make the fifth defense of his two-year title reign when he faces the stiff test of unbeaten #1 contender Kelly Pavlik (31-0, 28 KOs) on September 29 at Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, New Jersey, it was announced today by Lou DiBella, president of DiBella Entertainment. HBO Sports World Championship Boxing will televise the world championship bout live at 10:15 p.m. ET/ 7:15 p.m. PT. Tickets, priced at $400, $300, $200, $100 and $50, will go on sale on Wednesday at the Boardwalk Hall box office, by calling Ticketmaster at 1-800-736-1420 or by visiting www.ticketmaster.co m.
Tuesday, July 24 2007 Kelly Pavlik is slated to fight Jermain Taylor for the Middleweight
Championship of the world!
September 29, 2007. www.teampavlik.com

Youngstown's Vindicator has done a tremendous job of covering Kelly
Pavlik. Let's write letters to the Canton, Akron, Pittsburgh and
Cleveland Newspapers so that this great local story is covered every
step of the way.

Jermain Taylor is a rare and historic champion in that he beat a
champion (Bernard Hopkins) that collected all 4 of the major world
titles. Jermain Taylor has not been beaten since. Therefor he is
considered the undisputed middleweight champion of the world and now
Kelly Pavlik is scheduled to fight for his crown. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7WvDw2882g

I give Taylor credit. He doesn't shy away from the competition. Taylor hasn't looked all that great in his last 2 fights. But it don't matter, he still came out with the win. Pavlik is a good, strong fighter. He was impressive in beating Miranda. But that's been his only note worthy win. He deserves his title shot. But I don't think he wins it. Taylor by mid to late round stoppage.

I voted Taylor on points. Nothing to say other than that...

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

I give Taylor credit. He doesn't shy away from the competition. Taylor hasn't looked all that great in his last 2 fights. But it don't matter, he still came out with the win. Pavlik is a good, strong fighter. He was impressive in beating Miranda. But that's been his only note worthy win. He deserves his title shot. But I don't think he wins it. Taylor by mid to late round stoppage.

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I agree with nearly everything you said but I think Pavlik wins this. UD

I got to go with Pavlik by knock out easy. Jermaine allows his self to be pressed and pushed back alot. You cannot do that with a guy who has wrecking balls at the end of his wrists. Kassim Umoa pressed him back and so did Winky Wright.Pavliks fist will find a home diffinetly if Taylor finds his self up on the ropes. Which he did that alot with Kassim. I belive Pavlik chin is much more sturdy than Taylor. I think his power is much greater than Taylors , and also I belive fans would like Pavlik's humble personality over a champ who speaks of himself in the third person.

I voted Taylor by decision cos he always seems to eek out a win that way. Altho i'd love to see Pavlik win by devastating KO. It could be just what the Boxing world needs.

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I give Taylor credit. He doesn't shy away from the competition. Taylor hasn't looked all that great in his last 2 fights. But it don't matter, he still came out with the win. Pavlik is a good, strong fighter. He was impressive in beating Miranda. But that's been his only note worthy win. He deserves his title shot. But I don't think he wins it. Taylor by mid to late round stoppage.

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I would take Pavliks chin over Taylor's fists any day.

i like Taylor by UD maybe even KO is pavlik really presses the action.

"Let's write letters to the Canton, Akron, Pittsburgh and
Cleveland Newspapers so that this great local story is covered every
step of the way. "

;D

I've said it before I've got a bad feeling Taylor will step up and fight better than he has and beat Pavlik. Sucks cause seeing even one more Taylor fight is one too many but just think he'll be too quick. Hopefully not.

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i like Taylor by UD maybe even KO is pavlik really presses the action.

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I agree, I think Taylor totally outclasses Pavlik, and possibly stops him. He's been severely underrated after his last few fights and I think he gets back his mojo against Pavlik. I still think that Taylor can become a great fighter, but he just needs to let things flow instead of thinking about every move in the ring. Against BHOP and Wright although some beg to differ he went 2-0-1. He didn't do that by thinking about every single move he was just raw, rough, and rugged. With Ouma and Spinks he was trying too damn hard to look good and wasn't using his physicality to his advantage. Pavlik brings out the best in Taylor and everyone including Larry Merchant jumps back on the JT bandwagon. ;)

Pavlik wins by KO in round 7 or 8.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

I give Taylor credit. He doesn't shy away from the competition. Taylor hasn't looked all that great in his last 2 fights. But it don't matter, he still came out with the win. Pavlik is a good, strong fighter. He was impressive in beating Miranda. But that's been his only note worthy win. He deserves his title shot. But I don't think he wins it. Taylor by mid to late round stoppage.

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any reason why you think Taylor will stop him?

To me the winner will be decided by taylor, if he truns up hungry he will take the UD, otherwise pavilk will stop him or take the UD...

No way do i see the soft hitting taylor stopping pavilk tho, not after he took some big big shots from miranda and didn't get stopped. Taylor couldn't stop guys like ouma or spinks, guys whos punches he could walk through, pavilk wont be stopped by taylor.

Gotta give credit to JT, he really does take on anyone pretty much

Taylor's the champ until sombody proves otherwise, taylor by ko late.

It looks like september is gonna be another huge month for the sport if a certain other fight works out.

Ive gone for Taylor by KO/TKO i think he will rise to the challenge Pavlik has power but i think Taylor's slick skills will get him through we can't really judge Taylor on his last fight against Spinks as Spinks made the fight horrible.I will say this about Taylor he does'nt shy away from a big fight or a big name this fight is a major threat and i believe Taylor will raise his game and take Pavlik out down the stretch probably around round 10.

I would love to see Pavlik win this fight by KO, however I think we are going to see a renewed JT and he will caputre a UD. Didn't Taylor beat Pavlik in the amateurs? If thats the case then Pavlik may have insecurities fighting Talyor or doubt himself a little, but then again the amatuers were along time ago. I really can't wait to see this fight though, should be a good one.

Taylor can't even knock out a chinny welterweight how the hell is he going to stop Pavlik who was unmoved by Mirandas bombs ???

If the fight goes the distance Taylor on account of having bought two of the judges has already won on two card 115-113. The independent judge who hasn't been bought will score the fight fairly and it will read something like 120 -109 Pavlik so a split decision win for Taylor then.........

Jermain Taylor will outbox Kelly with ease. I know that many people are down on Jermain right now due to the fact he fights guys smaller then him. He put on a terrible performance against Corey Spinks who by the way can make anyone look bad.

Jermain is a guy who fights at the level of his opponent. They stink he stinks. They are at their best he is at his best. One day that will come back to bite him in the rear end but Kelly Pavlik is not that guy.

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I give Taylor credit. He doesn't shy away from the competition. Taylor hasn't looked all that great in his last 2 fights. But it don't matter, he still came out with the win. Pavlik is a good, strong fighter. He was impressive in beating Miranda. But that's been his only note worthy win. He deserves his title shot. But I don't think he wins it. Taylor by mid to late round stoppage.

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any reason why you think Taylor will stop him?

To me the winner will be decided by taylor, if he truns up hungry he will take the UD, otherwise pavilk will stop him or take the UD...

No way do i see the soft hitting taylor stopping pavilk tho, not after he took some big big shots from miranda and didn't get stopped. Taylor couldn't stop guys like ouma or spinks, guys whos punches he could walk through, pavilk wont be stopped by taylor.

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Taylor is a better fighter than Miranda. He's more technically sound offensively. And his defense is way better than Mirandas. Also while Pavlik did take some shots from Miranda, the shots he took were not Miranda's best. Miranda spent most of the fight going backwards. He never really got in a groove offensively. Pavilk can not fight Taylor the same way he fought Miranda. If he does. Taylor will knock him out.

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I give Taylor credit. He doesn't shy away from the competition. Taylor hasn't looked all that great in his last 2 fights. But it don't matter, he still came out with the win. Pavlik is a good, strong fighter. He was impressive in beating Miranda. But that's been his only note worthy win. He deserves his title shot. But I don't think he wins it. Taylor by mid to late round stoppage.

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any reason why you think Taylor will stop him?

To me the winner will be decided by taylor, if he truns up hungry he will take the UD, otherwise pavilk will stop him or take the UD...

No way do i see the soft hitting taylor stopping pavilk tho, not after he took some big big shots from miranda and didn't get stopped. Taylor couldn't stop guys like ouma or spinks, guys whos punches he could walk through, pavilk wont be stopped by taylor.

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Taylor is a better fighter than Miranda. He's more technically sound offensively. And his defense is way better than Mirandas. Also while Pavlik did take some shots from Miranda, the shots he took were not Miranda's best. Miranda spent most of the fight going backwards. He never really got in a groove offensively. Pavilk can not fight Taylor the same way he fought Miranda. If he does. Taylor will knock him out.

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Exactly as i see this unfolding,Miranda made Pavlik look good and will bring the best out in Taylor.
Pavlik can only fight one way and that is why he'll lose,Taylor is gonna be a huge step up in class for him.

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I give Taylor credit. He doesn't shy away from the competition. Taylor hasn't looked all that great in his last 2 fights. But it don't matter, he still came out with the win. Pavlik is a good, strong fighter. He was impressive in beating Miranda. But that's been his only note worthy win. He deserves his title shot. But I don't think he wins it. Taylor by mid to late round stoppage.

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any reason why you think Taylor will stop him?

To me the winner will be decided by taylor, if he truns up hungry he will take the UD, otherwise pavilk will stop him or take the UD...

No way do i see the soft hitting taylor stopping pavilk tho, not after he took some big big shots from miranda and didn't get stopped. Taylor couldn't stop guys like ouma or spinks, guys whos punches he could walk through, pavilk wont be stopped by taylor.

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Taylor is a better fighter than Miranda. He's more technically sound offensively. And his defense is way better than Mirandas. Also while Pavlik did take some shots from Miranda, the shots he took were not Miranda's best. Miranda spent most of the fight going backwards. He never really got in a groove offensively. Pavilk can not fight Taylor the same way he fought Miranda. If he does. Taylor will knock him out.

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CC Smashup

I agree with you

I feel that Miranda's style complimented Pavlik and he basically outbombed him. I can't see that sort of fight unfolding here....i can't see it being exciting either.

I'll be rooting for Pavlik and he does have a chance if he makes a fast start and maintains a decent pace but i have a feeling the gulf in class is going to be quite large and Pavlik will struggle to get his shots off.

As much as Taylor bores me to death, he's got some balls.


















Exactly as i see this unfolding,Miranda made Pavlik look good and will bring the best out in Taylor.
Pavlik can only fight one way and that is why he'll lose,Taylor is gonna be a huge step up in class for him.

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Kelly looked really good in his fight with miranda but i can't really give pavlik anything else....i'd pick taylor over both pavlik and miranda due to his overall boxing ability over both of those hard punchers.....this is one of those fights where i can see how people can say pavlik by ko but i don't see taylor letting that happen....

On the prefight hype of Jermain vs Bhop 1 ,Jermain kept saying "there is a new face in boxing" .I think There is going to be yet another "new face" and thats Kelly Pavlik's face.

I pick Pavlik by KO. The only thing you can go one is there past opposition and I think Miranda was better than people give him credit for because he got beat so convincingly by Pavlik.

Taylor takes Pavlik to school I am confident that when the heat is on Taylor is just on another level 8)

and " NEW " Middleweight champion of the world

Taylor has been on a steady decline IMO , over the last few years.

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Taylor takes Pavlik to school I am confident that when the heat is on Taylor is just on another level 8)

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He is but his heart just ain't in it unless he's MADE to fight i'm afraid.
His attitude towards boxing stinks and he bores me to tears with the 2 Hopkins meets an utter disgrace to the fight game.
The way Manny spoke to him just before the 12th against Spinks sums the man up in a nutshell ;)

Anybody going to do an official picks on this fight im not they are hard work i did Calzaghe vs Kessler and that fight looks no closer.

I'm really can't decide here....
I see this in 2 lights.....

1st I think JTs a bit too slick for Pavlik to be able to catch him full on.
However JTs not invisible and he will get hit I just dont think it'll be full on... JT on the norm steps away from the punches so that can be an issue for Pavlik.

2nd I think Pavliks power can hurt JT. I think Pavliks shut many people up INCLUDING ME with his last outing... No excuses he flat out beat Miranda.
So I don't know man...

Can Pavlik catch the more slicker fighter in JT?
Can JT be slick enough for Pavlik for 12 full rounds?

I'm gonna have to think more on this one here...

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I'm really can't decide here....
I see this in 2 lights.....

1st I think JTs a bit too slick for Pavlik to be able to catch him full on.
However JTs not invisible and he will get hit I just dont think it'll be full on... JT on the norm steps away from the punches so that can be an issue for Pavlik.

2nd I think Pavliks power can hurt JT. I think Pavliks shut many people up INCLUDING ME with his last outing... No excuses he flat out beat Miranda.
So I don't know man...

Can Pavlik catch the more slicker fighter in JT?
Can JT be slick enough for Pavlik for 12 full rounds?

I'm gonna have to think more on this one here...

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I don't see it being that hard of a decision. Taylor is the more skilled fighter. The more polished fighter. And he's the more experienced fighter. Pavlik is the harder puncher. And I'm sure he'll land some punches. But Taylor never shown a weak jaw. I see Taylor establishing his "missing in action" jab early. Than breaking Pavlik down in the middle rounds.

Pavlik will KTFO Taylor early. Cory Spinks straight right made Jermain cautious, Pavliks right is gonna have him dancing around the ring. I give Taylor props for taking this fight, but hes gonna get damaged in this one. After this one Pavlik will move up to Supermiddle and target the belt holders.

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Pavlik will KTFO Taylor early. Cory Spinks straight right made Jermain cautious, Pavliks right is gonna have him dancing around the ring. I give Taylor props for taking this fight, but hes gonna get damaged in this one. After this one Pavlik will move up to Supermiddle and target the belt holders.

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And Fulgencio Zuniga right put Pavilk on his ass

I'm taking Pavlik on a KO....Taylor isn't a real slickster, so I don't see him attempting to out box Kelly, and I haven't been impressed with his power. I never really saw Bhop, Winky, Ouma or Spinks really hurt. JT may try to box, but eventually he will have to bang with Kelly and I think Pavlik has the better chin and power.

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Taylor can't even knock out a chinny welterweight how the hell is he going to stop Pavlik who was unmoved by Mirandas bombs ???

If the fight goes the distance Taylor on account of having bought two of the judges has already won on two card 115-113. The independent judge who hasn't been bought will score the fight fairly and it will read something like 120 -109 Pavlik so a split decision win for Taylor then.........

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Bilbo, WTF r u talkin about? Taylor can't knockout junior middles that run all night long around him, that's how you should have written it. And I don't know if Miranda had the time and balance to throw bombs at Kelly, all merit to Pavlik though for having his man pressured against the ropes from early on in the fight...

Lou DiBella can't buy judges in Vegas, maybe in Memphis, not definitely in Vegas so fortune telling aside, Kelly can't definitely pressure JT to the ropes with relentless long armed, loose muscle, two fisted attack and even though he has a lot of snap in both left jab and right lead, Jermain will slip punches underneath and score a thunderous right underneath Kelly's punching line that I would be tremendously surprised if Kelly can take... Jermain has a lot of flaws yes but his right cross is like a fast train, a pile driver or a cement block that no gutsy middle can disregard!

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I'm really can't decide here....
I see this in 2 lights.....

1st I think JTs a bit too slick for Pavlik to be able to catch him full on.
However JTs not invisible and he will get hit I just dont think it'll be full on... JT on the norm steps away from the punches so that can be an issue for Pavlik.

2nd I think Pavliks power can hurt JT. I think Pavliks shut many people up INCLUDING ME with his last outing... No excuses he flat out beat Miranda.
So I don't know man...

Can Pavlik catch the more slicker fighter in JT?
Can JT be slick enough for Pavlik for 12 full rounds?

I'm gonna have to think more on this one here...

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I don't see it being that hard of a decision. Taylor is the more skilled fighter. The more polished fighter. And he's the more experienced fighter. Pavlik is the harder puncher. And I'm sure he'll land some punches. But Taylor never shown a weak jaw. I see Taylor establishing his "missing in action" jab early. Than breaking Pavlik down in the middle rounds.

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The jab will definatly show up...he better throw it hard and early to keep pavlik off him and off any type of rhythm.

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I'm really can't decide here....
I see this in 2 lights.....

1st I think JTs a bit too slick for Pavlik to be able to catch him full on.
However JTs not invisible and he will get hit I just dont think it'll be full on... JT on the norm steps away from the punches so that can be an issue for Pavlik.

2nd I think Pavliks power can hurt JT. I think Pavliks shut many people up INCLUDING ME with his last outing... No excuses he flat out beat Miranda.
So I don't know man...

Can Pavlik catch the more slicker fighter in JT?
Can JT be slick enough for Pavlik for 12 full rounds?

I'm gonna have to think more on this one here...

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I don't see it being that hard of a decision. Taylor is the more skilled fighter. The more polished fighter. And he's the more experienced fighter. Pavlik is the harder puncher. And I'm sure he'll land some punches. But Taylor never shown a weak jaw. I see Taylor establishing his "missing in action" jab early. Than breaking Pavlik down in the middle rounds.

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It sounds easy....
Everything you say are posibilities...
The fire and rage that I saw on Pavlik the night he stopped Miranda was amazing!! The look on his face was there you could tell he knew what beating Miranda ment.
I just don't see this fire and desire in JT. I'm sorry but I don't it's his (JTs) on fault that people don't belive in him I mean his own people (In a clip shown where he was gfetting his hiarcut) were clowning on his style and how he lacks aggressiveness.
Another thing is I think Pavlik will bring out the best in JT....

Like is said it's pretty difficult for me since I ain't big on either one for those who are calling out rds. and clear cut wins that's cause their hard core fans of the fighters for me I just don't see a clear winner.

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Pavlik will KTFO Taylor early. Cory Spinks straight right made Jermain cautious, Pavliks right is gonna have him dancing around the ring. I give Taylor props for taking this fight, but hes gonna get damaged in this one. After this one Pavlik will move up to Supermiddle and target the belt holders.

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And Fulgencio Zuniga right put Pavilk on his a**

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2005 - WON VACANT NABF M TITLE - on 10-7-05 in Las Vegas, NV, he TKO’d Fulgencio Zuniga (17-1-1): it was a fast-paced, exciting fight; Zuniga scored a knockdown with a left hook in the 1st round, but Kelly recovered quickly, dominated most of the rest of the fight, and wore him down; Zuniga was cut over his right eye by a clash of heads, and his corner stopped the fight after the 9th round; after nine rounds, Kelly led by scores of 88-83, 87-83, 87-83; after the fight, he said, “I got it under my belt. He’s a pretty strong guy. I know I should have fought from the outside, but you can’t always do it. He had sneaky quickness.”…

I'm looking for that Pavlik Knock down now, I'm interested in seeing it,I'm wondering if it was an off balance flash knock down or the real thing.

Taylor has never kissed the canvas? He may well have a good chin but I dont think hes fought anyone with Pavliks power. Hopkins being the hardest hitter hes probably faced. Thats not bad but I think Pavlik has a little more just from what I've seen of them both. Pavlik did face Taylor in the amatuers...lol...Pavlik claims he should have won that fight.....of course.

I took Taylor by KO. I think Jermain finally get's someone to stand in front of him. I think he can handle Pavlik. Should be a hell of a fight though!

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On the prefight hype of Jermain vs Bhop 1 ,Jermain kept saying "there is a new face in boxing" .I think There is going to be yet another "new face" and thats Kelly Pavlik's face.

I pick Pavlik by KO. The only thing you can go one is there past opposition and I think Miranda was better than people give him credit for because he got beat so convincingly by Pavlik.

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Please explain. I can't see how beating anybody convincingly means that that person is better than people give him credit for.