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Wlad's NEXT IBF MANDATORY
Will be the winner of a fight between Chris Byrd and Calvin Brock(as reported by Dan Rafael ESPN.COM)
What a waste of a fight; if he has to fight either of those two again. And why would they want to fight him.
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Will be the winner of a fight between Chris Byrd and Calvin Brock(as reported by Dan Rafael ESPN.COM)
What a waste of a fight; if he has to fight either of those two again. And why would they want to fight him.
So we could possibly see 3rd fight with Byrd ?? damn that would like sending Byrd to coliseum to get eaten by the lions thats just cruel.
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What a sad division this has become :'(
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I dunno what you guys are complaining about, I'd actually enjoy seeing byrd completely dismantled for a 3rd time.
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I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster ??? Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...
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Originally Posted by lance Uppercut
Will be the winner of a fight between Chris Byrd and Calvin Brock(as reported by Dan Rafael ESPN.COM)
What a waste of a fight; if he has to fight either of those two again. And why would they want to fight him.
wow, thats gay
at least maybe it will get rid of calvin brock, i remember back when everbody was hyping him up saying he was gonna beat vitali and bring the belt back to america :)
HAHAH, vitali would have destroyed him just as bad as big vladdy did, and will again, but id rather see big vladdy fight valuev or james toney, toney needs to get KTFO, but hes banned or some shit
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I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster ??? Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...
the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down
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Originally Posted by lance Uppercut
Will be the winner of a fight between Chris Byrd and Calvin Brock(as reported by Dan Rafael ESPN.COM)
What a waste of a fight; if he has to fight either of those two again. And why would they want to fight him.
So we could possibly see 3rd fight with Byrd ?? damn that would like sending Byrd to coliseum to get eaten by the lions thats just cruel.
sad thing is klitch might even be better in theit third fight...
i've been looking at the ratings for the ibf and i dont see the ibf forcing wlad into a mandatory for a long time... there is no #1 or #2 contenders currently.. and guess what brewster is the #3 rated ibf..
i guess this should count as a mandatory fight for Klitch since brewster is the highest rated shouldnt it..
he might fight valuev in a year or two if valuev beats virchis or maybe rachman for his next mandatory..
i highly doubt wlad will fight byrd or brock ever again...
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
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Originally Posted by Dorfmeister
I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster ??? Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...
the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down
He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that shit happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
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Originally Posted by Dorfmeister
I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster ??? Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...
the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down
He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that shit happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.
the sanders fight is another story...
in the peter fight he was only legitimately KD 1ce, and it was while he was jumping back with his feet off the ground, it knocked him into the ropes and on the floor, the other 2 KDs were from being pushed downward on a followthrough
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
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Originally Posted by Dorfmeister
I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster ??? Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...
the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down
Sal, I read ur post and ur prediction on the upcoming fight ( 2 hours and 15 minutes) and I can't believe u are saying dat, I mean u gat 2 be kiddin or u r too damn anxious ( blurred) to picture it right?! Big "Vladdy" didn't dominate Lamon at all, he tried to break his way through with the long, educated and xtremely sharp left jab 4 2 rounds, suddenly he took the first big left hook ( as Lamon's cousin Chris and his wife and Don jumped from their seats 4 the 1st time at ringside) and started breathing hard... Whe he caught one already fearless Brewsta coming on in the 4th, the guy wouldn't even throw 1-twos that often, I skip the 5th round story just to mention what came out to be the last words in the bout ( Lamon's, Roy's, Lampley's, everybody's), Wlad didn't lose cause the other guy had a better chin, he lost cause he ran out of gas and right into the panic room, I agree he wasn't hurt, Lamon just showed he had heart and Wlad had to mature so keep prayin Lamon goes to pieces from the long left jab followed by the clumsy left hook in close ( a la Ray Austin), good luck Steel Hammer
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
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Originally Posted by Dorfmeister
I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster ??? Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...
the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down
He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that S*** happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.
i thought stamina was what people like slam klitchko for..now you are using it for an excuse for peter???
wlad has and avg at worst chin... sanders, peter, and brewster could put ANY MAN on the mat... wlads knock downs had more to do with defense than having a weak chin..
most boxers who gets floored 3 times by his opponents and still wins is concidered to have a heart of a champion...but when wlad does that exact thing against peter it oh well (peter was tired,klicthko is overrated,) all that bullsh@t rather than YEAH HE TOOK SOME OF THE BEST SHOTS BY ONE OF THE HARDEST PUNCHERS TODAY AND STILL DOMINATED THE LATES ROUNDS.....
but haters hate its your job
hey punisher wanna bet turning your name to klitchko and I'll turn my name into whoever you decide?? if klitchko loses tonight.. since klitchko is so overrated...
this is a dangerous fight for klitchko tonight... i still think brewster is one of the most exciting HW's and a top 5 HW for sure...
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
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Originally Posted by Dorfmeister
I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster ??? Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...
the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down
He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that S*** happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.
the sanders fight is another story...
in the peter fight he was only legitimately KD 1ce, and it was while he was jumping back with his feet off the ground, it knocked him into the ropes and on the floor, the other 2 KDs were from being pushed downward on a followthrough
Another fight ( vs Sam Peter) he gets knockdown from clumsy shots to the arms, shoulders, whateva, freaks out and loses strength in the legs... Damn, do u expect Manny to be there all the time "Relax, use ur jab, very good fight so far, keep doin what you're doing, keep it up", the guy PANICS man, he's not used to slug it out, why do u think he's fighting in Germany - No way, Vander would knock him down just by looking at him!
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Originally Posted by Dorfmeister
I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster  ??? Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...
the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down
He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that S*** happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.
i thought stamina was what people like slam klitchko for..now you are using it for an excuse for peter???
wlad has and avg at worst chin... sanders, peter, and brewster could put ANY MAN on the mat... wlads knock downs had more to do with defense than having a weak chin..
most boxers who gets floored 3 times by his opponents and still wins is concidered to have a heart of a champion...but when wlad does that exact thing against peter it oh well (peter was tired,klicthko is overrated,) all that bullsh@t  rather than YEAH HE TOOK SOME OF THE BEST SHOTS BY ONE OF THE HARDEST PUNCHERS TODAY AND STILL DOMINATED THE LATES ROUNDS.....
but haters hate its your job
hey punisher wanna bet turning your name to klitchko and I'll turn my name into whoever you decide?? if klitchko loses tonight.. since klitchko is so overrated...
this is a dangerous fight for klitchko tonight... i still think brewster is one of the most exciting HW's and a top 5 HW for sure...
I'm not slamming wlad for having bad stamina, most people who want to try and make wlad's obvious losses disappear use it as an excuse for HIM. Using stamina as an excuse for wlad is way more ridiculous than using it for peter. Wlad was "gased" in round 5 (which is ridiculous for being the "next best thing") and lost to a journeyman. Go ahead and bring about the excuses that wlad was only 22, purity is still a jounreyman and there's no excuse for losing to him at any point in your career if you are indeed in line to become the next undisputed heavyweight champion of ANY era. I'm not a hater, someone needs to not be hugging Wlad's nuts on this forum.
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by Fire
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
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Originally Posted by Dorfmeister
I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster ??? Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...
the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down
He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that S*** happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.
i thought stamina was what people like slam klitchko for..now you are using it for an excuse for peter???
wlad has and avg at worst chin... sanders, peter, and brewster could put ANY MAN on the mat... wlads knock downs had more to do with defense than having a weak chin..
most boxers who gets floored 3 times by his opponents and still wins is concidered to have a heart of a champion...but when wlad does that exact thing against peter it oh well (peter was tired,klicthko is overrated,) all that bullsh@t rather than YEAH HE TOOK SOME OF THE BEST SHOTS BY ONE OF THE HARDEST PUNCHERS TODAY AND STILL DOMINATED THE LATES ROUNDS.....
but haters hate its your job
hey punisher wanna bet turning your name to klitchko and I'll turn my name into whoever you decide?? if klitchko loses tonight.. since klitchko is so overrated...
this is a dangerous fight for klitchko tonight... i still think brewster is one of the most exciting HW's and a top 5 HW for sure...
I'm not slamming wlad for having bad stamina, most people who want to try and make wlad's obvious losses disappear use it as an excuse for HIM. Using stamina as an excuse for wlad is way more ridiculous than using it for peter. Wlad was "gased" in round 5 (which is ridiculous for being the "next best thing") and lost to a journeyman. Go ahead and bring about the excuses that wlad was only 22, purity is still a jounreyman and there's no excuse for losing to him at any point in your career if you are indeed in line to become the next undisputed heavyweight champion of ANY era. I'm not a hater, someone needs to not be hugging Wlad's nuts on this forum.
i see ya talking but i dont see ya walking...do u take the bet or not???
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
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Originally Posted by Dorfmeister
I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster  ??? Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...
the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down
He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that S*** happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.
i thought stamina was what people like slam klitchko for..now you are using it for an excuse for peter???
wlad has and avg at worst chin... sanders, peter, and brewster could put ANY MAN on the mat... wlads knock downs had more to do with defense than having a weak chin..
most boxers who gets floored 3 times by his opponents and still wins is concidered to have a heart of a champion...but when wlad does that exact thing against peter it oh well (peter was tired,klicthko is overrated,) all that bullsh@t  rather than YEAH HE TOOK SOME OF THE BEST SHOTS BY ONE OF THE HARDEST PUNCHERS TODAY AND STILL DOMINATED THE LATES ROUNDS.....
but haters hate its your job
hey punisher wanna bet turning your name to klitchko and I'll turn my name into whoever you decide?? if klitchko loses tonight.. since klitchko is so overrated...
this is a dangerous fight for klitchko tonight... i still think brewster is one of the most exciting HW's and a top 5 HW for sure...
I'm not slamming wlad for having bad stamina, most people who want to try and make wlad's obvious losses disappear use it as an excuse for HIM. Using stamina as an excuse for wlad is way more ridiculous than using it for peter. Wlad was "gased" in round 5 (which is ridiculous for being the "next best thing") and lost to a journeyman. Go ahead and bring about the excuses that wlad was only 22, purity is still a jounreyman and there's no excuse for losing to him at any point in your career if you are indeed in line to become the next undisputed heavyweight champion of ANY era. I'm not a hater, someone needs to not be hugging Wlad's nuts on this forum.
i see ya talking but i dont see ya walking...do u take the bet or not???
No because i'm not going around saying brewster is the reincarnation of jesus like some of you people are for wlad. I don't even like brewster. You need to accept that wlad has lost in the past and he's not as good as everyone pegs him to be. Wether he wins this fight or not, he still has LEGIT (and i emphasize that word) loses to sanders and brewster (regardless of what excuses you guys wanna make) and an unexcusable loss by any means to purity.
Am i running around here saying "Brewster is gonna ko wlad in 30 seconds"? No. I've said (as you'll find me being consistant on in any thread you'll see) that brewster will (t)ko wlad late based on previous precedent that he has an exposable chin and he starts running out of steam in the late rounds. Yes he went into the 7th rounds of the brock and byrd fights without trouble but do brock and byrd have power or a pressure style? No.
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
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Originally Posted by Dorfmeister
I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster ??? Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...
the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down
He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that S*** happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.
i thought stamina was what people like slam klitchko for..now you are using it for an excuse for peter???
wlad has and avg at worst chin... sanders, peter, and brewster could put ANY MAN on the mat... wlads knock downs had more to do with defense than having a weak chin..
most boxers who gets floored 3 times by his opponents and still wins is concidered to have a heart of a champion...but when wlad does that exact thing against peter it oh well (peter was tired,klicthko is overrated,) all that bullsh@t rather than YEAH HE TOOK SOME OF THE BEST SHOTS BY ONE OF THE HARDEST PUNCHERS TODAY AND STILL DOMINATED THE LATES ROUNDS.....
but haters hate its your job
hey punisher wanna bet turning your name to klitchko and I'll turn my name into whoever you decide?? if klitchko loses tonight.. since klitchko is so overrated...
this is a dangerous fight for klitchko tonight... i still think brewster is one of the most exciting HW's and a top 5 HW for sure...
I'm not slamming wlad for having bad stamina, most people who want to try and make wlad's obvious losses disappear use it as an excuse for HIM. Using stamina as an excuse for wlad is way more ridiculous than using it for peter. Wlad was "gased" in round 5 (which is ridiculous for being the "next best thing") and lost to a journeyman. Go ahead and bring about the excuses that wlad was only 22, purity is still a jounreyman and there's no excuse for losing to him at any point in your career if you are indeed in line to become the next undisputed heavyweight champion of ANY era. I'm not a hater, someone needs to not be hugging Wlad's nuts on this forum.
i see ya talking but i dont see ya walking...do u take the bet or not???
No because i'm not going around saying brewster is the reincarnation of jesus like some of you people are for wlad. I don't even like brewster. You need to accept that wlad has lost in the past and he's not as good as everyone pegs him to be. Wether he wins this fight or not, he still has LEGIT (and i emphasize that word) loses to sanders and brewster (regardless of what excuses you guys wanna make) and an unexcusable loss by any means to purity.
Am i running around here saying "Brewster is gonna ko wlad in 30 seconds"? No. I've said (as you'll find me being cosnistant on in any thread you'll see) that brewster will (t)ko wlad late based on previous precedent that he has an exposable chin and he starts running out of steam in the late rounds. Yes he went into the 7th rounds of the borck and byrd fight without trouble but do brock and byrd have power or a pressure style? No.
I second every good sense comment Punisher posted and would like to add that please don't expect that a fighter who was knocked out like that to go after his executioner like he's head hunting, Klitchko is no Floyd Patterson to go for it after being beaten that bad, he hopes to wear down this guy and leave him no alternative but to be halted by the ref
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Originally Posted by Dorfmeister
I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster ??? Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...
the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down
He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that S*** happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.
i thought stamina was what people like slam klitchko for..now you are using it for an excuse for peter???
wlad has and avg at worst chin... sanders, peter, and brewster could put ANY MAN on the mat... wlads knock downs had more to do with defense than having a weak chin..
most boxers who gets floored 3 times by his opponents and still wins is concidered to have a heart of a champion...but when wlad does that exact thing against peter it oh well (peter was tired,klicthko is overrated,) all that bullsh@t rather than YEAH HE TOOK SOME OF THE BEST SHOTS BY ONE OF THE HARDEST PUNCHERS TODAY AND STILL DOMINATED THE LATES ROUNDS.....
but haters hate its your job
hey punisher wanna bet turning your name to klitchko and I'll turn my name into whoever you decide?? if klitchko loses tonight.. since klitchko is so overrated...
this is a dangerous fight for klitchko tonight... i still think brewster is one of the most exciting HW's and a top 5 HW for sure...
I'm not slamming wlad for having bad stamina, most people who want to try and make wlad's obvious losses disappear use it as an excuse for HIM. Using stamina as an excuse for wlad is way more ridiculous than using it for peter. Wlad was "gased" in round 5 (which is ridiculous for being the "next best thing") and lost to a journeyman. Go ahead and bring about the excuses that wlad was only 22, purity is still a jounreyman and there's no excuse for losing to him at any point in your career if you are indeed in line to become the next undisputed heavyweight champion of ANY era. I'm not a hater, someone needs to not be hugging Wlad's nuts on this forum.
i see ya talking but i dont see ya walking...do u take the bet or not???
No because i'm not going around saying brewster is the reincarnation of jesus like some of you people are for wlad. I don't even like brewster. You need to accept that wlad has lost in the past and he's not as good as everyone pegs him to be. Wether he wins this fight or not, he still has LEGIT (and i emphasize that word) loses to sanders and brewster (regardless of what excuses you guys wanna make) and an unexcusable loss by any means to purity.
Am i running around here saying "Brewster is gonna ko wlad in 30 seconds"? No. I've said (as you'll find me being cosnistant on in any thread you'll see) that brewster will (t)ko wlad late based on previous precedent that he has an exposable chin and he starts running out of steam in the late rounds. Yes he went into the 7th rounds of the borck and byrd fight without trouble but do brock and byrd have power or a pressure style? No.
blah blah blah i see ya talkin but i dont see ya walkin ;)
i havent made ANY EXCUSES FOR WLAD YOU ARE THE ONE USING EXCUSES FOR PETER...
if you wont bet with brewster on your side... NAME ME ANY HW THAT YOU DO THINK WILL BEAT WLAD.... oh yeah you do think brewster will knock him out(talking) but you wont bet on it(walking).......... go ahead hide behind your words of hate....
if he is SO D@MN OVERRATED THEN BET ME....
if brewster dont beat Wlad no one can.... peter is his only other threat and klitch will beat his a$$ worst the second go round..
like i said if you liked a fighter and he got knocked down 3 times and got up and dominated the second half of the fight you would call it the "heart of a champions" material...
but since your a hater hate its your job...
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I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster ??? Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...
the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down
He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that S*** happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.
i thought stamina was what people like slam klitchko for..now you are using it for an excuse for peter???
wlad has and avg at worst chin... sanders, peter, and brewster could put ANY MAN on the mat... wlads knock downs had more to do with defense than having a weak chin..
most boxers who gets floored 3 times by his opponents and still wins is concidered to have a heart of a champion...but when wlad does that exact thing against peter it oh well (peter was tired,klicthko is overrated,) all that bullsh@t rather than YEAH HE TOOK SOME OF THE BEST SHOTS BY ONE OF THE HARDEST PUNCHERS TODAY AND STILL DOMINATED THE LATES ROUNDS.....
but haters hate its your job
hey punisher wanna bet turning your name to klitchko and I'll turn my name into whoever you decide?? if klitchko loses tonight.. since klitchko is so overrated...
this is a dangerous fight for klitchko tonight... i still think brewster is one of the most exciting HW's and a top 5 HW for sure...
I'm not slamming wlad for having bad stamina, most people who want to try and make wlad's obvious losses disappear use it as an excuse for HIM. Using stamina as an excuse for wlad is way more ridiculous than using it for peter. Wlad was "gased" in round 5 (which is ridiculous for being the "next best thing") and lost to a journeyman. Go ahead and bring about the excuses that wlad was only 22, purity is still a jounreyman and there's no excuse for losing to him at any point in your career if you are indeed in line to become the next undisputed heavyweight champion of ANY era. I'm not a hater, someone needs to not be hugging Wlad's nuts on this forum.
i see ya talking but i dont see ya walking...do u take the bet or not???
No because i'm not going around saying brewster is the reincarnation of jesus like some of you people are for wlad. I don't even like brewster. You need to accept that wlad has lost in the past and he's not as good as everyone pegs him to be. Wether he wins this fight or not, he still has LEGIT (and i emphasize that word) loses to sanders and brewster (regardless of what excuses you guys wanna make) and an unexcusable loss by any means to purity.
Am i running around here saying "Brewster is gonna ko wlad in 30 seconds"? No. I've said (as you'll find me being cosnistant on in any thread you'll see) that brewster will (t)ko wlad late based on previous precedent that he has an exposable chin and he starts running out of steam in the late rounds. Yes he went into the 7th rounds of the borck and byrd fight without trouble but do brock and byrd have power or a pressure style? No.
I second every good sense comment Punisher posted and would like to add that please don't expect that a fighter who was knocked out like that to go after his executioner like he's head hunting, Klitchko is no Floyd Patterson to go for it after being beaten that bad, he hopes to wear down this guy and leave him no alternative but to be halted by the ref
OK DORF jump in the bet... change your name to klitchko if klitchko wins...
OR IS ALL THE KLITCHKO HATERS TALKIN TONIGHT
i'm putting my neck on the line.... i think wlad has a 2/1 odds of winning so i think there is a very real possibility for klitch to lose and for me to look kinda of dumb...
but i wouldnt go to a fighters thread and point out all the reasons why he is overrated and predict my fighter would knock him out... unless i had the b@lls to bet...
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I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster ??? Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...
the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down
He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that S*** happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.
i thought stamina was what people like slam klitchko for..now you are using it for an excuse for peter???
wlad has and avg at worst chin... sanders, peter, and brewster could put ANY MAN on the mat... wlads knock downs had more to do with defense than having a weak chin..
most boxers who gets floored 3 times by his opponents and still wins is concidered to have a heart of a champion...but when wlad does that exact thing against peter it oh well (peter was tired,klicthko is overrated,) all that bullsh@t rather than YEAH HE TOOK SOME OF THE BEST SHOTS BY ONE OF THE HARDEST PUNCHERS TODAY AND STILL DOMINATED THE LATES ROUNDS.....
but haters hate its your job
hey punisher wanna bet turning your name to klitchko and I'll turn my name into whoever you decide?? if klitchko loses tonight.. since klitchko is so overrated...
this is a dangerous fight for klitchko tonight... i still think brewster is one of the most exciting HW's and a top 5 HW for sure...
I'm not slamming wlad for having bad stamina, most people who want to try and make wlad's obvious losses disappear use it as an excuse for HIM. Using stamina as an excuse for wlad is way more ridiculous than using it for peter. Wlad was "gased" in round 5 (which is ridiculous for being the "next best thing") and lost to a journeyman. Go ahead and bring about the excuses that wlad was only 22, purity is still a jounreyman and there's no excuse for losing to him at any point in your career if you are indeed in line to become the next undisputed heavyweight champion of ANY era. I'm not a hater, someone needs to not be hugging Wlad's nuts on this forum.
i see ya talking but i dont see ya walking...do u take the bet or not???
No because i'm not going around saying brewster is the reincarnation of jesus like some of you people are for wlad. I don't even like brewster. You need to accept that wlad has lost in the past and he's not as good as everyone pegs him to be. Wether he wins this fight or not, he still has LEGIT (and i emphasize that word) loses to sanders and brewster (regardless of what excuses you guys wanna make) and an unexcusable loss by any means to purity.
Am i running around here saying "Brewster is gonna ko wlad in 30 seconds"? No. I've said (as you'll find me being cosnistant on in any thread you'll see) that brewster will (t)ko wlad late based on previous precedent that he has an exposable chin and he starts running out of steam in the late rounds. Yes he went into the 7th rounds of the borck and byrd fight without trouble but do brock and byrd have power or a pressure style? No.
blah blah blah i see ya talkin but i dont see ya walkin ;)
i havent made ANY EXCUSES FOR WLAD YOU ARE THE ONE USING EXCUSES FOR PETER...
if you wont bet with brewster on your side... NAME ME ANY HW THAT YOU DO THINK WILL BEAT WLAD.... oh yeah you do think brewster will knock him out(talking) but you wont bet on it(walking).......... go ahead hide behind your words of hate....
if he is SO D@MN OVERRATED THEN BET ME....
if brewster dont beat Wlad no one can.... peter is his only other threat and klitch will beat his a$$ worst the second go round..
like i said if you liked a fighter and he got knocked down 3 times and got up and dominated the second half of the fight you would call it the "heart of a champions" material...
but since your a hater hate its your job...
I've said ONE thing about peter on this WHOLE thread and thats what your focusing on. I have yet to hear you defend any of his losses (especially the purity one, i want a GREAT explaination for that) I've said i'll own up to it if wlad wins this fight (you'll find that quote in a recent thread), if he doesn't you'll find some stamina excuse or find some "shady" knockdown that happened. Accepot the fact that the man has lost beofre and can be beaten again, its not out of the question. He's no Vitali...
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the name change is for two weeks....if the challenge is accepted...
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I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster ??? Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...
the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down
He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that S*** happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.
i thought stamina was what people like slam klitchko for..now you are using it for an excuse for peter???
wlad has and avg at worst chin... sanders, peter, and brewster could put ANY MAN on the mat... wlads knock downs had more to do with defense than having a weak chin..
most boxers who gets floored 3 times by his opponents and still wins is concidered to have a heart of a champion...but when wlad does that exact thing against peter it oh well (peter was tired,klicthko is overrated,) all that bullsh@t rather than YEAH HE TOOK SOME OF THE BEST SHOTS BY ONE OF THE HARDEST PUNCHERS TODAY AND STILL DOMINATED THE LATES ROUNDS.....
but haters hate its your job
hey punisher wanna bet turning your name to klitchko and I'll turn my name into whoever you decide?? if klitchko loses tonight.. since klitchko is so overrated...
this is a dangerous fight for klitchko tonight... i still think brewster is one of the most exciting HW's and a top 5 HW for sure...
I'm not slamming wlad for having bad stamina, most people who want to try and make wlad's obvious losses disappear use it as an excuse for HIM. Using stamina as an excuse for wlad is way more ridiculous than using it for peter. Wlad was "gased" in round 5 (which is ridiculous for being the "next best thing") and lost to a journeyman. Go ahead and bring about the excuses that wlad was only 22, purity is still a jounreyman and there's no excuse for losing to him at any point in your career if you are indeed in line to become the next undisputed heavyweight champion of ANY era. I'm not a hater, someone needs to not be hugging Wlad's nuts on this forum.
i see ya talking but i dont see ya walking...do u take the bet or not???
No because i'm not going around saying brewster is the reincarnation of jesus like some of you people are for wlad. I don't even like brewster. You need to accept that wlad has lost in the past and he's not as good as everyone pegs him to be. Wether he wins this fight or not, he still has LEGIT (and i emphasize that word) loses to sanders and brewster (regardless of what excuses you guys wanna make) and an unexcusable loss by any means to purity.
Am i running around here saying "Brewster is gonna ko wlad in 30 seconds"? No. I've said (as you'll find me being cosnistant on in any thread you'll see) that brewster will (t)ko wlad late based on previous precedent that he has an exposable chin and he starts running out of steam in the late rounds. Yes he went into the 7th rounds of the borck and byrd fight without trouble but do brock and byrd have power or a pressure style? No.
blah blah blah i see ya talkin but i dont see ya walkin ;)
i havent made ANY EXCUSES FOR WLAD YOU ARE THE ONE USING EXCUSES FOR PETER...
if you wont bet with brewster on your side... NAME ME ANY HW THAT YOU DO THINK WILL BEAT WLAD.... oh yeah you do think brewster will knock him out(talking) but you wont bet on it(walking).......... go ahead hide behind your words of hate....
if he is SO D@MN OVERRATED THEN BET ME....
if brewster dont beat Wlad no one can.... peter is his only other threat and klitch will beat his a$$ worst the second go round..
like i said if you liked a fighter and he got knocked down 3 times and got up and dominated the second half of the fight you would call it the "heart of a champions" material...
but since your a hater hate its your job...
I've said ONE thing about peter on this WHOLE thread and thats what your focusing on. I have yet to hear you defend any of his losses (especially the purity one, i want a GREAT explaination for that) I've said i'll own up to it if wlad wins this fight (you'll find that quote in a recent thread), if he doesn't you'll find some stamina excuse or find some "shady" knockdown that happened. Accepot the fact that the man has lost beofre and can be beaten again, its not out of the question. He's no Vitali...
blah blah blah its obvious to those who will read our conversation who really believes in what he says and who dont... you talk, i walk
here is my best explanation for wlad's dominance...
name me ONE FIGHTER that you would pick(strong enough were you would actually bet on it) that would beat the highly overrated klitchko...
truthfully i have heard the haters rail klitchko since before the sanders fight... i dont care what you say back it up....
d@mn you and dorf made my day by revealing that even the biggest klitchko haters dont really believe it(proof: not betting) you all just simply hate on him... ;D
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I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster ??? Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...
the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down
He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that S*** happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.
i thought stamina was what people like slam klitchko for..now you are using it for an excuse for peter???
wlad has and avg at worst chin... sanders, peter, and brewster could put ANY MAN on the mat... wlads knock downs had more to do with defense than having a weak chin..
most boxers who gets floored 3 times by his opponents and still wins is concidered to have a heart of a champion...but when wlad does that exact thing against peter it oh well (peter was tired,klicthko is overrated,) all that bullsh@t rather than YEAH HE TOOK SOME OF THE BEST SHOTS BY ONE OF THE HARDEST PUNCHERS TODAY AND STILL DOMINATED THE LATES ROUNDS.....
but haters hate its your job
hey punisher wanna bet turning your name to klitchko and I'll turn my name into whoever you decide?? if klitchko loses tonight.. since klitchko is so overrated...
this is a dangerous fight for klitchko tonight... i still think brewster is one of the most exciting HW's and a top 5 HW for sure...
I'm not slamming wlad for having bad stamina, most people who want to try and make wlad's obvious losses disappear use it as an excuse for HIM. Using stamina as an excuse for wlad is way more ridiculous than using it for peter. Wlad was "gased" in round 5 (which is ridiculous for being the "next best thing") and lost to a journeyman. Go ahead and bring about the excuses that wlad was only 22, purity is still a jounreyman and there's no excuse for losing to him at any point in your career if you are indeed in line to become the next undisputed heavyweight champion of ANY era. I'm not a hater, someone needs to not be hugging Wlad's nuts on this forum.
i see ya talking but i dont see ya walking...do u take the bet or not???
No because i'm not going around saying brewster is the reincarnation of jesus like some of you people are for wlad. I don't even like brewster. You need to accept that wlad has lost in the past and he's not as good as everyone pegs him to be. Wether he wins this fight or not, he still has LEGIT (and i emphasize that word) loses to sanders and brewster (regardless of what excuses you guys wanna make) and an unexcusable loss by any means to purity.
Am i running around here saying "Brewster is gonna ko wlad in 30 seconds"? No. I've said (as you'll find me being cosnistant on in any thread you'll see) that brewster will (t)ko wlad late based on previous precedent that he has an exposable chin and he starts running out of steam in the late rounds. Yes he went into the 7th rounds of the borck and byrd fight without trouble but do brock and byrd have power or a pressure style? No.
blah blah blah i see ya talkin but i dont see ya walkin ;)
i havent made ANY EXCUSES FOR WLAD YOU ARE THE ONE USING EXCUSES FOR PETER...
if you wont bet with brewster on your side... NAME ME ANY HW THAT YOU DO THINK WILL BEAT WLAD.... oh yeah you do think brewster will knock him out(talking) but you wont bet on it(walking).......... go ahead hide behind your words of hate....
if he is SO D@MN OVERRATED THEN BET ME....
if brewster dont beat Wlad no one can.... peter is his only other threat and klitch will beat his a$$ worst the second go round..
like i said if you liked a fighter and he got knocked down 3 times and got up and dominated the second half of the fight you would call it the "heart of a champions" material...
but since your a hater hate its your job...
I've said ONE thing about peter on this WHOLE thread and thats what your focusing on. I have yet to hear you defend any of his losses (especially the purity one, i want a GREAT explaination for that) I've said i'll own up to it if wlad wins this fight (you'll find that quote in a recent thread), if he doesn't you'll find some stamina excuse or find some "shady" knockdown that happened. Accepot the fact that the man has lost beofre and can be beaten again, its not out of the question. He's no Vitali...
blah blah blah its obvious to those who will read our conversation who really believes in what he says and who dont... you talk, i walk
here is my best explanation for wlad's dominance...
name me ONE FIGHTER that you would pick(strong enough were you would actually bet on it) that would beat the highly overrated klitchko...
truthfully i have heard the haters rail klitchko since before the sanders fight... i dont care what you say back it up....
d@mn you and dorf made my day by revealing that even the biggest klitchko haters dont really believe it(proof: not betting) you all just simply hate on him... ;D
First of all, i'm considering changing my name to Water >:mad. Secondly, Have i said wlad is overrated? No. Never have. Me pulling up his losses and asking for explainations that are legit and not excuses doesn't = hating. It equals me not blindly following the guy who everybody else is saying is the best fighter in the division (which will be a complete inaccuracy come september). I'm not betting on it because i don't feel as strong about this as i do about gatti gomez (current on going bet with a guy who doesn't have alittle over 200 posts ;)).
You're making it sound like i have said "No way in hell can wlad's china chin hold up against brewster. Wlad is overrated and crap". I'm not ruling out the possibility of wlad winning, a brewster win by ko late just makes more sense to me.
Me responding for you so you don't have to:
"Blah Blah Blah.
You hate wlad.
I still won't tell you why any of your points are wrong, i'm just gonna call you a hater.
Why won't you bet me?
You are scared."
(insert a bunch of unnecessary elipses and that should be 100% accurate)
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I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster ??? Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...
the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down
He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that S*** happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.
With or without the rabbit punches?
what a joke
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Originally Posted by Dorfmeister
I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster ??? Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...
the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down
He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that S*** happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.
i thought stamina was what people like slam klitchko for..now you are using it for an excuse for peter???
wlad has and avg at worst chin... sanders, peter, and brewster could put ANY MAN on the mat... wlads knock downs had more to do with defense than having a weak chin..
most boxers who gets floored 3 times by his opponents and still wins is concidered to have a heart of a champion...but when wlad does that exact thing against peter it oh well (peter was tired,klicthko is overrated,) all that bullsh@t rather than YEAH HE TOOK SOME OF THE BEST SHOTS BY ONE OF THE HARDEST PUNCHERS TODAY AND STILL DOMINATED THE LATES ROUNDS.....
but haters hate its your job
hey punisher wanna bet turning your name to klitchko and I'll turn my name into whoever you decide?? if klitchko loses tonight.. since klitchko is so overrated...
this is a dangerous fight for klitchko tonight... i still think brewster is one of the most exciting HW's and a top 5 HW for sure...
I'm not slamming wlad for having bad stamina, most people who want to try and make wlad's obvious losses disappear use it as an excuse for HIM. Using stamina as an excuse for wlad is way more ridiculous than using it for peter. Wlad was "gased" in round 5 (which is ridiculous for being the "next best thing") and lost to a journeyman. Go ahead and bring about the excuses that wlad was only 22, purity is still a jounreyman and there's no excuse for losing to him at any point in your career if you are indeed in line to become the next undisputed heavyweight champion of ANY era. I'm not a hater, someone needs to not be hugging Wlad's nuts on this forum.
i see ya talking but i dont see ya walking...do u take the bet or not???
No because i'm not going around saying brewster is the reincarnation of jesus like some of you people are for wlad. I don't even like brewster. You need to accept that wlad has lost in the past and he's not as good as everyone pegs him to be. Wether he wins this fight or not, he still has LEGIT (and i emphasize that word) loses to sanders and brewster (regardless of what excuses you guys wanna make) and an unexcusable loss by any means to purity.
Am i running around here saying "Brewster is gonna ko wlad in 30 seconds"? No. I've said (as you'll find me being cosnistant on in any thread you'll see) that brewster will (t)ko wlad late based on previous precedent that he has an exposable chin and he starts running out of steam in the late rounds. Yes he went into the 7th rounds of the borck and byrd fight without trouble but do brock and byrd have power or a pressure style? No.
blah blah blah i see ya talkin but i dont see ya walkin ;)
i havent made ANY EXCUSES FOR WLAD YOU ARE THE ONE USING EXCUSES FOR PETER...
if you wont bet with brewster on your side... NAME ME ANY HW THAT YOU DO THINK WILL BEAT WLAD.... oh yeah you do think brewster will knock him out(talking) but you wont bet on it(walking).......... go ahead hide behind your words of hate....
if he is SO D@MN OVERRATED THEN BET ME....
if brewster dont beat Wlad no one can.... peter is his only other threat and klitch will beat his a$$ worst the second go round..
like i said if you liked a fighter and he got knocked down 3 times and got up and dominated the second half of the fight you would call it the "heart of a champions" material...
but since your a hater hate its your job...
I've said ONE thing about peter on this WHOLE thread and thats what your focusing on. I have yet to hear you defend any of his losses (especially the purity one, i want a GREAT explaination for that) I've said i'll own up to it if wlad wins this fight (you'll find that quote in a recent thread), if he doesn't you'll find some stamina excuse or find some "shady" knockdown that happened. Accepot the fact that the man has lost beofre and can be beaten again, its not out of the question. He's no Vitali...
blah blah blah its obvious to those who will read our conversation who really believes in what he says and who dont... you talk, i walk
here is my best explanation for wlad's dominance...
name me ONE FIGHTER that you would pick(strong enough were you would actually bet on it) that would beat the highly overrated klitchko...
truthfully i have heard the haters rail klitchko since before the sanders fight... i dont care what you say back it up....
d@mn you and dorf made my day by revealing that even the biggest klitchko haters dont really believe it(proof: not betting) you all just simply hate on him... ;D
First of all, i'm considering changing my name to Water >:mad. Secondly, Have i said wlad is overrated? No. Never have. Me pulling up his losses and asking for explainations that are legit and not excuses doesn't = hating. It equals me not blindly following the guy who everybody else is saying is the best fighter in the division (which will be a complete inaccuracy come september). I'm not betting on it because i don't feel as strong about this as i do about gatti gomez (current on going bet with a guy who doesn't have alittle over 200 posts ;)).
You're making it sound like i have said "No way in hell can wlad's china chin hold up against brewster. Wlad is overrated and crap". I'm not ruling out the possibility of wlad winning, a brewster win by ko late just makes more sense to me.
Me responding for you so you don't have to:
"Blah Blah Blah.
You hate wlad.
I still won't tell you why any of your points are wrong, i'm just gonna call you a hater.
Why won't you bet me?
You are scared."
(insert a bunch of unnecessary elipses and that should be 100% accurate)
ok again... wlads losses to brewster and sanders ko doesnt mean he has a china chin ANY ONE COULD GET KNOCKED OUT BY THOSE TWO but he reflects his bad defence which he has corrected...
the purity loss he punched himself out...
wlad lost all of them with out excuses from me...
you was talking so boldly of the late round ko of klitchko until the bet came up ::**...
i never said klitchko was the best fighter in the world you debating me with the assumption that everyone on here including me thinks he is a god....
you wont give a fighter to beat wlad... but wlad isnt as good as i think he is ..sure O0...
haters hate its your job
but i hope everyone caught the fact that even haters dont bet against wlad against one of wlad's biggest threats!!!!! Sounds like Wlads made some believers out there
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I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster ??? Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...
the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down
He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that S*** happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.
With or without the rabbit punches?
what a joke
Peter's like 8 inches shorter than wlad, how the fuck can he rabbit punch him?
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pun said: i blindly say klitchko is the best in the division...
the ring, espn, fightnews and fire says wlad is the best in the division..
come to think of it so do u pun because u cant name a fighter that would beat him (not one that you would bet on anyways)
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First of all, i'm considering changing my name to Water >:mad.
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:D CC
One thing I think has been made totally clear in this thread is that hater's hate its our job.
Seriously why is it a bad thing to dislike certain fighters. I can't stand certain fighters, Wlad included, why is that such a bad thing?
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I'm not betting you because i never said Wlad was overrated, in fact on numerous occasion's i've said (regardless of how sad the division is) that he is the best out there (and again i'll say until september comes around). I still say brewster will win by late ko. I'm not just changing my mind because you say something.
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pun said: i blindly say klitchko is the best in the division...
the ring, espn, fightnews and fire says wlad is the best in the division..
come to think of it so do u pun because u cant name a fighter that would beat him (not one that you would bet on anyways)
Vitali for one ;D
Peter would in a rematch
I'd put my money on povetkin in a few years
There's also a few up and comers i'm undecided on.
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I want to make clear that i like klitchko(he is my fav fighter) because he is a good man... he helps kids in africa and eastern europe.... i like him as a person....
and he kicks a$$
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I'm not betting you because i never said Wlad was overrated, in fact on numerous occasion's i've said (regardless of how sad the division is) that he is the best out there (and again i'll say until september comes around). I still say brewster will win by late ko. I'm not just changing my mind because you say something.
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pun said: i blindly say klitchko is the best in the division...
the ring, espn, fightnews and fire says wlad is the best in the division..
come to think of it so do u pun because u cant name a fighter that would beat him (not one that you would bet on anyways)
Vitali for one ;D
Peter would in a rematch
I'd put my money on povetkin in a few years
There's also a few up and comers i'm undecided on.
truthfully i was going to let all this slide and leave it alone but f****g please YOUR WHOLE POINT IS HE IS OVERRATED IN THE EYES OF HIS FANS.......
i scored real high recently on a reading test and one of the basic principles of reading is seeing the main point.... i without a doubt think that your main point was he is overrated and doesnt belong to be on top of the division...
your choices to who is the best HW is peter who klitchko already beat and who no one rates #1 or his brother who hasnt been active in a couple of years....
i think that should prove to you that klicthko should be #1 rated HW..
if that dont prove it to you well like i said the ring, espn, fightnews, commentators and most all good posters on here agrees with me...
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I'm not betting you because i never said Wlad was overrated, in fact on numerous occasion's i've said (regardless of how sad the division is) that he is the best out there (and again i'll say until september comes around). I still say brewster will win by late ko. I'm not just changing my mind because you say something.
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pun said: i blindly say klitchko is the best in the division...
the ring, espn, fightnews and fire says wlad is the best in the division..
come to think of it so do u pun because u cant name a fighter that would beat him (not one that you would bet on anyways)
Vitali for one ;D
Peter would in a rematch
I'd put my money on povetkin in a few years
There's also a few up and comers i'm undecided on.
truthfully i was going to let all this slide and leave it alone but f****g please YOUR WHOLE POINT IS HE IS OVERRATED IN THE EYES OF HIS FANS.......
i scored real high recently on a reading test and one of the basic principles of reading is seeing the main point.... i without a doubt think that your main point was he is overrated and doesnt belong to be on top of the division...
your choices to who is the best HW is peter who klitchko already beat and who no one rates #1 or his brother who hasnt been active in a couple of years....
i think that should prove to you that klicthko should be #1 rated HW..
if that dont prove it to you well like i said the ring, espn, fightnews, commentators and most all good posters on here agrees with me...
I name fighters and all of a sudden you just try to discredit me all together. Can't get a break i guess. :-\
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I want to make clear that i like klitchko(he is my fav fighter) because he is a good man... he helps kids in africa and eastern europe.... i like him as a person....
and he kicks a$$
:puke: He should run for miss universe next year out of the ukraine then. ;D
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I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster ??? Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...
the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down
He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that S*** happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.
i thought stamina was what people like slam klitchko for..now you are using it for an excuse for peter???
wlad has and avg at worst chin... sanders, peter, and brewster could put ANY MAN on the mat... wlads knock downs had more to do with defense than having a weak chin..
most boxers who gets floored 3 times by his opponents and still wins is concidered to have a heart of a champion...but when wlad does that exact thing against peter it oh well (peter was tired,klicthko is overrated,) all that bullsh@t rather than YEAH HE TOOK SOME OF THE BEST SHOTS BY ONE OF THE HARDEST PUNCHERS TODAY AND STILL DOMINATED THE LATES ROUNDS.....
but haters hate its your job
hey punisher wanna bet turning your name to klitchko and I'll turn my name into whoever you decide?? if klitchko loses tonight.. since klitchko is so overrated...
this is a dangerous fight for klitchko tonight... i still think brewster is one of the most exciting HW's and a top 5 HW for sure...
I'm not slamming wlad for having bad stamina, most people who want to try and make wlad's obvious losses disappear use it as an excuse for HIM. Using stamina as an excuse for wlad is way more ridiculous than using it for peter. Wlad was "gased" in round 5 (which is ridiculous for being the "next best thing") and lost to a journeyman. Go ahead and bring about the excuses that wlad was only 22, purity is still a jounreyman and there's no excuse for losing to him at any point in your career if you are indeed in line to become the next undisputed heavyweight champion of ANY era. I'm not a hater, someone needs to not be hugging Wlad's nuts on this forum.
i see ya talking but i dont see ya walking...do u take the bet or not???
No because i'm not going around saying brewster is the reincarnation of jesus like some of you people are for wlad. I don't even like brewster. You need to accept that wlad has lost in the past and he's not as good as everyone pegs him to be. Wether he wins this fight or not, he still has LEGIT (and i emphasize that word) loses to sanders and brewster (regardless of what excuses you guys wanna make) and an unexcusable loss by any means to purity.
Am i running around here saying "Brewster is gonna ko wlad in 30 seconds"? No. I've said (as you'll find me being cosnistant on in any thread you'll see) that brewster will (t)ko wlad late based on previous precedent that he has an exposable chin and he starts running out of steam in the late rounds. Yes he went into the 7th rounds of the borck and byrd fight without trouble but do brock and byrd have power or a pressure style? No.
I second every good sense comment Punisher posted and would like to add that please don't expect that a fighter who was knocked out like that to go after his executioner like he's head hunting, Klitchko is no Floyd Patterson to go for it after being beaten that bad, he hopes to wear down this guy and leave him no alternative but to be halted by the ref
OK DORF jump in the bet... change your name to klitchko if klitchko wins...
OR IS ALL THE KLITCHKO HATERS TALKIN TONIGHT
i'm putting my neck on the line.... i think wlad has a 2/1 odds of winning so i think there is a very real possibility for klitch to lose and for me to look kinda of dumb...
but i wouldnt go to a fighters thread and point out all the reasons why he is overrated and predict my fighter would knock him out... unless i had the b@lls to bet...
Fire, now I and Punisher r Klitschko haters, u r crackin up, my bro... Man, I can't risk my neck on a fight that can go either way... Besides, I believe Wlad can keep Lamon at the end of his long jab and swallow up one or two blasts when the smaller guy slips and scores all the way to the finish line. What I do not symphatize with is your desperation to see Lamon flat on da deck 2 prove ur point in the most egocentric, one-dimensional perspective on pro box today, which by any means is true, Klitschko was owned BIG TIME by the relentless attack of Lamon as clearly as he was discouraged for hitting the deck every time Corrie would just let his left hand go ( actually Williamson dropped him the very same way before the lucky head-butt occured) and then Peter who is a sucker for a punch and had Wlad's fuel leakin 4 luv touches here and there... Wlad may resemble a beautiful Greek God but Manny is spending white nights to keep his mind together and JT's and Cintron's, poor Manny Steward
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I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster ??? Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...
the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down
He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that S*** happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.
With or without the rabbit punches?
what a joke
Peter's like 8 inches shorter than wlad, how the F*** can he rabbit punch him?
man, you can not be any where close tp being serious?
first off peter is 6 inches shorter, have you ever heard of a thing called "reach"? how the fuck would peter ever get a headshot if he couldnt reach there? jesus christ dude make sense.
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People who want the brothers to fight are fucking ridiculous....when EVER have 2 brothers fought a pro boxing match against each other??? The Baer's didn't do it.....The Spinks' didn't do it.....the Peterson's won't do it......so WHY ask the Klitschko's to do it?
Next Wladimir should fight a title holder and if he doesn't get that chance he should fight Nicolay Valuev and maybe he should give Sanders a rematch....if he beat Corrie that would send a HUGE message to the world that he won't be stopped by anyone anymore....of course it's a huge risk with little reward but hey whatever fight makes sense and seems to be a competitive fight he should make.
No more Ray Austin's though....the IBF needs to get some fighters up there!!!
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....hate to say it but I do believe I would rather watch Wladimir destroy Evander Holyfield than fight either Byrd or Brock.
A fight vs Hasim Rahman wouldn't be bad either
...where are all the James Toney fans????
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I'm not betting you because i never said Wlad was overrated, in fact on numerous occasion's i've said (regardless of how sad the division is) that he is the best out there (and again i'll say until september comes around). I still say brewster will win by late ko. I'm not just changing my mind because you say something.
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Originally Posted by Fire
pun said: i blindly say klitchko is the best in the division...
the ring, espn, fightnews and fire says wlad is the best in the division..
come to think of it so do u pun because u cant name a fighter that would beat him (not one that you would bet on anyways)
Vitali for one ;D
Peter would in a rematch
I'd put my money on povetkin in a few years
There's also a few up and comers i'm undecided on.
truthfully i was going to let all this slide and leave it alone but f****g please YOUR WHOLE POINT IS HE IS OVERRATED IN THE EYES OF HIS FANS.......
i scored real high recently on a reading test and one of the basic principles of reading is seeing the main point.... i without a doubt think that your main point was he is overrated and doesnt belong to be on top of the division...
your choices to who is the best HW is peter who klitchko already beat and who no one rates #1 or his brother who hasnt been active in a couple of years....
i think that should prove to you that klicthko should be #1 rated HW..
if that dont prove it to you well like i said the ring, espn, fightnews, commentators and most all good posters on here agrees with me...
I name fighters and all of a sudden you just try to discredit me all together. Can't get a break i guess. :-\
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Originally Posted by Fire
I want to make clear that i like klitchko(he is my fav fighter) because he is a good man... he helps kids in africa and eastern europe.... i like him as a person....
and he kicks a$$
:puke: He should run for miss universe next year out of the ukraine then. ;D
try to discredit you all together??..... the ring magazine, espn, fightnews, and most posters on here discredit you.. for you saying wlad is not the best current HW..
so how did you like the fight.... I bet your glad you didnt bet....
dont run your mouth and if your afraid to back it up.... your all talk... i encourage others to read our debate earlier to see what i'm talking about....
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....don't take it personal, Punisher is just pissed because everyone knows he PROMISED to give up hating on Wlad after Wlad beat Lamon.
So we're giving him a night grace period to come to grips with having to try and find a new heavyweight to hate on.
SUCK IT PUNISHER! You can't post anymore shit about Wlad
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I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster ??? Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...
the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down
He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that S*** happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.
i thought stamina was what people like slam klitchko for..now you are using it for an excuse for peter???
wlad has and avg at worst chin... sanders, peter, and brewster could put ANY MAN on the mat... wlads knock downs had more to do with defense than having a weak chin..
most boxers who gets floored 3 times by his opponents and still wins is concidered to have a heart of a champion...but when wlad does that exact thing against peter it oh well (peter was tired,klicthko is overrated,) all that bullsh@t rather than YEAH HE TOOK SOME OF THE BEST SHOTS BY ONE OF THE HARDEST PUNCHERS TODAY AND STILL DOMINATED THE LATES ROUNDS.....
but haters hate its your job
hey punisher wanna bet turning your name to klitchko and I'll turn my name into whoever you decide?? if klitchko loses tonight.. since klitchko is so overrated...
this is a dangerous fight for klitchko tonight... i still think brewster is one of the most exciting HW's and a top 5 HW for sure...
I'm not slamming wlad for having bad stamina, most people who want to try and make wlad's obvious losses disappear use it as an excuse for HIM. Using stamina as an excuse for wlad is way more ridiculous than using it for peter. Wlad was "gased" in round 5 (which is ridiculous for being the "next best thing") and lost to a journeyman. Go ahead and bring about the excuses that wlad was only 22, purity is still a jounreyman and there's no excuse for losing to him at any point in your career if you are indeed in line to become the next undisputed heavyweight champion of ANY era. I'm not a hater, someone needs to not be hugging Wlad's nuts on this forum.
i see ya talking but i dont see ya walking...do u take the bet or not???
No because i'm not going around saying brewster is the reincarnation of jesus like some of you people are for wlad. I don't even like brewster. You need to accept that wlad has lost in the past and he's not as good as everyone pegs him to be. Wether he wins this fight or not, he still has LEGIT (and i emphasize that word) loses to sanders and brewster (regardless of what excuses you guys wanna make) and an unexcusable loss by any means to purity.
Am i running around here saying "Brewster is gonna ko wlad in 30 seconds"? No. I've said (as you'll find me being cosnistant on in any thread you'll see) that brewster will (t)ko wlad late based on previous precedent that he has an exposable chin and he starts running out of steam in the late rounds. Yes he went into the 7th rounds of the borck and byrd fight without trouble but do brock and byrd have power or a pressure style? No.
I second every good sense comment Punisher posted and would like to add that please don't expect that a fighter who was knocked out like that to go after his executioner like he's head hunting, Klitchko is no Floyd Patterson to go for it after being beaten that bad, he hopes to wear down this guy and leave him no alternative but to be halted by the ref
OK DORF jump in the bet... change your name to klitchko if klitchko wins...
OR IS ALL THE KLITCHKO HATERS TALKIN TONIGHT
i'm putting my neck on the line.... i think wlad has a 2/1 odds of winning so i think there is a very real possibility for klitch to lose and for me to look kinda of dumb...
but i wouldnt go to a fighters thread and point out all the reasons why he is overrated and predict my fighter would knock him out... unless i had the b@lls to bet...
Fire, now I and Punisher r Klitschko haters, u r crackin up, my bro... Man, I can't risk my neck on a fight that can go either way... Besides, I believe Wlad can keep Lamon at the end of his long jab and swallow up one or two blasts when the smaller guy slips and scores all the way to the finish line. What I do not symphatize with is your desperation to see Lamon flat on da deck 2 prove ur point in the most egocentric, one-dimensional perspective on pro box today, which by any means is true, Klitschko was owned BIG TIME by the relentless attack of Lamon as clearly as he was discouraged for hitting the deck every time Corrie would just let his left hand go ( actually Williamson dropped him the very same way before the lucky head-butt occured) and then Peter who is a sucker for a punch and had Wlad's fuel leakin 4 luv touches here and there... Wlad may resemble a beautiful Greek God but Manny is spending white nights to keep his mind together and JT's and Cintron's, poor Manny Steward
well klitchko smoked that a$$.... WAS OWNED BIG TIME BY RELENTLESS BREWSTER DID YOU EVEN WATCH THE FIRST FIGHT..
and oh yeah you two are some of the biggest klitchko haters on here.. if you dont hate klitch and still think klitchko isnt the best HW well you just dont know sh!t then...
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....don't take it personal, Punisher is just pissed because everyone knows he PROMISED to give up hating on Wlad after Wlad beat Lamon.
So we're giving him a night grace period to come to grips with having to try and find a new heavyweight to hate on.
SUCK IT PUNISHER! You can't post anymore S*** about Wlad
oh believe me little pun and dorf and the other klitchko haters are relentless in their bias views... they will always hate on him and try to say it like they actually know what they are talking about, i know its hillarious to us but i think they really think they are telling us off lol...
lol i know they are funny
