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Peter vs Maskaev Might Not Happen!
read some news that the fight between peter and maskaev might crumble due to maskaev refusing to sign the contract to fight peter.
lol.. Oh lord.
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=11654&more=1
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That's great news for Maskaev. Sam would have had him with a side salad and a diet Dr Pepper.
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This has been up in the air for some time. If it didn't happen, it benefits Maskaev. He knows he's getting knocked out by Peter, and it'll pretty much end his career. I have no desire to see Peter vs. Vitali either. Again, I think Peter takes him apart. Wlad vs. Peter is the best Heavyweight fight out there.
Maskaev also would prefer to fight Vitali, because it means much more money for him.
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your right about 1 thing.
Maskaev vs Vitali would = much more money.
However peter is very overrated. What has he done? knocked out jeremy williams LMAO and beat a inflated SMW.
He scored 3 knockdowns against wlad (thanks to Rabbit punches) and still gets beat 114-111. Cmon, enough hypen him up already.
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But Peter has improved no end since then. When he first fought Wladimir Klitschko he was a plodding puncher with power to burn but since then he has became a talented boxer with power to burn. I'm not calling James Toney a top-level fighter anymore but he is still a threat for almost all of today's heavyweights and Peter beat him twice. The second time he was a revelation. HE used his left jab excellently and even dropped Toney with it. Peter is tough and can take a blow. He looked faster and fitter against Toney. He dropped today's best heavyweight (WLAD) three times.
Surely Peter's proven power, young age (23), his potenial, the tendency to improve rapidly which he has displayed andthe pschological edge of knowing he has dropped the division's number one 3 times wil add up and allow Peter to seize the top spoy at 200+ lbs. I hope Peter-Maskeav does happen because Oleg will be the biggest scalp on 'The Nigerian Nightmare's' resume and will propel him closer to the top of the division.
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Originally Posted by Sugar_Shaw
But Peter has improved no end since then. When he first fought Wladimir Klitschko he was a plodding puncher with power to burn but since then he has became a talented boxer with power to burn. I'm not calling James Toney a top-level fighter anymore but he is still a threat for almost all of today's heavyweights and Peter beat him twice. The second time he was a revelation. HE used his left jab excellently and even dropped Toney with it. Peter is tough and can take a blow. He looked faster and fitter against Toney. He dropped today's best heavyweight (WLAD) three times.
Surely Peter's proven power, young age (23), his potenial, the tendency to improve rapidly which he has displayed andthe pschological edge of knowing he has dropped the division's number one 3 times wil add up and allow Peter to seize the top spoy at 200+ lbs. I hope Peter-Maskeav does happen because Oleg will be the biggest scalp on 'The Nigerian Nightmare's' resume and will propel him closer to the top of the division.
I agree with much of your post. But Peter really is not as young 23.
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Originally Posted by Sugar_Shaw
But Peter has improved no end since then. When he first fought Wladimir Klitschko he was a plodding puncher with power to burn but since then he has became a talented boxer with power to burn. I'm not calling James Toney a top-level fighter anymore but he is still a threat for almost all of today's heavyweights and Peter beat him twice. The second time he was a revelation. HE used his left jab excellently and even dropped Toney with it. Peter is tough and can take a blow. He looked faster and fitter against Toney. He dropped today's best heavyweight (WLAD) three times.
Surely Peter's proven power, young age (23), his potenial, the tendency to improve rapidly which he has displayed andthe pschological edge of knowing he has dropped the division's number one 3 times wil add up and allow Peter to seize the top spoy at 200+ lbs. I hope Peter-Maskeav does happen because Oleg will be the biggest scalp on 'The Nigerian Nightmare's' resume and will propel him closer to the top of the division.
First off, one performance tells you that he is ready for another go at the champ? well then.. there's alot of heavies out there that should be knocking on wlads door because of A good performance. Personally he has beatin no one worth mentioning.
Second, please don't mention peter's knockdowns against wlad as an acomplishment, you should inturn mention them as a fault. Rabbit punches, to a good ref would of either deducted a point on the second knockdown, or a DQ. I Will not debate wether or not they were rabbit punches. If you Ever watch the fight you will come to the same conclusion. Samuel peter has beatin No one that would make me ( and should make most) think of him as anything different as an average up and commer with a hard punch. He got demolished against wlad so bad, that the 3 farce knockdowns of samuel peter did nothing to make the fight even close. I honestly believe that a match with either of the klitschkos would prove devastating for samuel peters career.
He has potential, but IMO he is years away from being a dominant force in the HWD.
one line sums up samuel peter.
A GREAT PUNCH, IF HE LANDS IT.
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If Maskaev does not sign to fight Peter don't anyone be suprised if he is stripped of the title.....Vitaly Vs Peter for the vacant title would be more lucritive for all involved
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sure.
It would get rid of the middle man(oleg), to a fight that will happen anyways.
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...maskaev isn't going anywhere near that contract. Peter being overrated or not maskaev deep down inside probably wants nothing to do with peter
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by Sugar_Shaw
But Peter has improved no end since then. When he first fought Wladimir Klitschko he was a plodding puncher with power to burn but since then he has became a talented boxer with power to burn. I'm not calling James Toney a top-level fighter anymore but he is still a threat for almost all of today's heavyweights and Peter beat him twice. The second time he was a revelation. HE used his left jab excellently and even dropped Toney with it. Peter is tough and can take a blow. He looked faster and fitter against Toney. He dropped today's best heavyweight (WLAD) three times.
Surely Peter's proven power, young age (23), his potenial, the tendency to improve rapidly which he has displayed andthe pschological edge of knowing he has dropped the division's number one 3 times wil add up and allow Peter to seize the top spoy at 200+ lbs. I hope Peter-Maskeav does happen because Oleg will be the biggest scalp on 'The Nigerian Nightmare's' resume and will propel him closer to the top of the division.
I agree with much of your post. But Peter really is not as young 23.
yea he is 26 i think
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Originally Posted by Big Jack
That's great news for Maskaev. Sam would have had him with a side salad and a diet Dr Pepper.
Yeah because vitali is a walkthrough ::**. Maskaev knows he's gonna get slaughtered against either and he figures he might as well make more money in the process.
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Originally Posted by Poom
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by Sugar_Shaw
But Peter has improved no end since then. When he first fought Wladimir Klitschko he was a plodding puncher with power to burn but since then he has became a talented boxer with power to burn. I'm not calling James Toney a top-level fighter anymore but he is still a threat for almost all of today's heavyweights and Peter beat him twice. The second time he was a revelation. HE used his left jab excellently and even dropped Toney with it. Peter is tough and can take a blow. He looked faster and fitter against Toney. He dropped today's best heavyweight (WLAD) three times.
Surely Peter's proven power, young age (23), his potenial, the tendency to improve rapidly which he has displayed andthe pschological edge of knowing he has dropped the division's number one 3 times wil add up and allow Peter to seize the top spoy at 200+ lbs. I hope Peter-Maskeav does happen because Oleg will be the biggest scalp on 'The Nigerian Nightmare's' resume and will propel him closer to the top of the division.
I agree with much of your post. But Peter really is not as young 23.
yea he is 26 i think
My apologies it was typo
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by Sugar_Shaw
But Peter has improved no end since then. When he first fought Wladimir Klitschko he was a plodding puncher with power to burn but since then he has became a talented boxer with power to burn. I'm not calling James Toney a top-level fighter anymore but he is still a threat for almost all of today's heavyweights and Peter beat him twice. The second time he was a revelation. HE used his left jab excellently and even dropped Toney with it. Peter is tough and can take a blow. He looked faster and fitter against Toney. He dropped today's best heavyweight (WLAD) three times.
Surely Peter's proven power, young age (23), his potenial, the tendency to improve rapidly which he has displayed andthe pschological edge of knowing he has dropped the division's number one 3 times wil add up and allow Peter to seize the top spoy at 200+ lbs. I hope Peter-Maskeav does happen because Oleg will be the biggest scalp on 'The Nigerian Nightmare's' resume and will propel him closer to the top of the division.
I agree with much of your post. But Peter really is not as young 23.
Yes I here he lies about his age. I bet he is more like 33 ,I really dont think it matters much for heavys. Evander has not looked as good as he has in his last 2 fights in a long time and he is 44.
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I couldn't care less that this was cancelled, anyone particulary interested in the first place ?
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Originally Posted by Poom
I couldn't care less that this was cancelled, anyone particulary interested in the first place ?
I do because peter is nigerian. I don't completely understand the terms of the deal but after this king uses my $2,000 on a business deal, i partially own that country or something like that. Seems like a fair trade to me ;D
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If Maskaev ducks Peter he should be stripped of his title!
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
If Maskaev ducks Peter he should be stripped of his title!
Absolutely 1000% Agreed
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
If Maskaev does not sign to fight Peter don't anyone be suprised if he is stripped of the title.....Vitaly Vs Peter for the vacant title would be more lucritive for all involved
wow, that would be a dream come true.
I cant believe how scared team maskaev is of Peter. They are running out of excuses not to fight him already.
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
If Maskaev does not sign to fight Peter don't anyone be suprised if he is stripped of the title.....Vitaly Vs Peter for the vacant title would be more lucritive for all involved
wow, that would be a dream come true.
I cant believe how scared team maskaev is of Peter. They are running out of excuses not to fight him already.
Hey let's be honest here...Maskaev is luck to be champion....If Vitaly was never injured the title would not have been up for grabs and most likely still on his waist...Wlad would have had one of the others and by now they would have claimed all 4 of the belts between them....Oleg is riding this for as long as he can.....
IMO Oleg is a good HW...Good power and decent Boxing skills but that chin has failed him too many times plus with age creeping up on him this is his last hurah so to speak
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I think saying Peter has done little to impress is interesting, because you could say the same about almost every heavy out there. Vitali Klitschko has a hard punch, but he's so overrated. Champion Emeritus my arse. He 'retired' injured. Either his injury wasn't as bad as he made out, or he's still got problems that will affect him in the long haul. Peter is hungry and wants it more, and for me it's inevitable he'll be a world champion.
Maybe Maskaev is wanting to bypass them both to face Oliver McCall, who also has a guarenteed shot at this belt. For what it's worth, I think McCall would beat Maskaev as well, so he's on borrowed time no matter what option he chooses.
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
I think saying Peter has done little to impress is interesting, because you could say the same about almost every heavy out there. Vitali Klitschko has a hard punch, but he's so overrated. Champion Emeritus my a***. He 'retired' injured. Either his injury wasn't as bad as he made out, or he's still got problems that will affect him in the long haul. Peter is hungry and wants it more, and for me it's inevitable he'll be a world champion.
Maybe Maskaev is wanting to bypass them both to face Oliver McCall, who also has a guarenteed shot at this belt. For what it's worth, I think McCall would beat Maskaev as well, so he's on borrowed time no matter what option he chooses.
Where are you getting this stuff "Injury wasnt as bad, or he still has an injury" speculation or fact?
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Oleg sometimes fights great and sometimes he gets sparked and sometimes he fights great and still gets sparked as he did vs Corey Sanders.
I think this fight should go ahead and happen so that Vitali can get on with whipping the winner and taking the belt back
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Originally Posted by Sugar_Shaw
But Peter has improved no end since then. When he first fought Wladimir Klitschko he was a plodding puncher with power to burn but since then he has became a talented boxer with power to burn. I'm not calling James Toney a top-level fighter anymore but he is still a threat for almost all of today's heavyweights and Peter beat him twice. The second time he was a revelation. HE used his left jab excellently and even dropped Toney with it. Peter is tough and can take a blow. He looked faster and fitter against Toney. He dropped today's best heavyweight (WLAD) three times.
Surely Peter's proven power, young age (23), his potenial, the tendency to improve rapidly which he has displayed andthe pschological edge of knowing he has dropped the division's number one 3 times wil add up and allow Peter to seize the top spoy at 200+ lbs. I hope Peter-Maskeav does happen because Oleg will be the biggest scalp on 'The Nigerian Nightmare's' resume and will propel him closer to the top of the division.
CC. Thats the way I see it too.
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
I think saying Peter has done little to impress is interesting, because you could say the same about almost every heavy out there. Vitali Klitschko has a hard punch, but he's so overrated. Champion Emeritus my a***. He 'retired' injured. Either his injury wasn't as bad as he made out, or he's still got problems that will affect him in the long haul. Peter is hungry and wants it more, and for me it's inevitable he'll be a world champion.
Maybe Maskaev is wanting to bypass them both to face Oliver McCall, who also has a guarenteed shot at this belt. For what it's worth, I think McCall would beat Maskaev as well, so he's on borrowed time no matter what option he chooses.
Just wondering what your definition of overated is as it relates to Vitali?Why because he only has 34 knockouts in 35 wins?His two fights that were loses ocured only because of injury in both cases he was ahead on the cards over Byrd and Lewis.He has knocked out guys that had never been stopped before.He is technically sound and has a great chin.
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If Oleg doesn't fight a mandatory challenger for his title, would that mean that he would then become stripped of his belt?
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Originally Posted by Chris N.
If Oleg doesn't fight a mandatory challenger for his title, would that mean that he would then become stripped of his belt?
Actually I think in reality it means he becomes the Super Emetrius Interim Vacated Champ.
and then Sinan Samil Sam and John Ruiz fight an eliminator to see who gets to fight Vitali for
winner of that faces Sam Peter in his third consecutive title Eliminator which will be a win
but not a convincing win so there will be a rematch for another title eliminator.
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
I think saying Peter has done little to impress is interesting, because you could say the same about almost every heavy out there. Vitali Klitschko has a hard punch, but he's so overrated. Champion Emeritus my a***. He 'retired' injured. Either his injury wasn't as bad as he made out, or he's still got problems that will affect him in the long haul. Peter is hungry and wants it more, and for me it's inevitable he'll be a world champion.
Maybe Maskaev is wanting to bypass them both to face Oliver McCall, who also has a guarenteed shot at this belt. For what it's worth, I think McCall would beat Maskaev as well, so he's on borrowed time no matter what option he chooses.
Just wondering what your definition of overated is as it relates to Vitali?Why because he only has 34 knockouts in 35 wins?His two fights that were loses ocured only because of injury in both cases he was ahead on the cards over Byrd and Lewis.He has knocked out guys that had never been stopped before.He is technically sound and has a great chin.
Maybe because the WBC named the guy Champion Emiritus after he made one defence of his title and retired. At the mo, he's treated like the second coming of Tyson, and while he's a great fighter, he's not as good as his younger bro IMO.
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
I think saying Peter has done little to impress is interesting, because you could say the same about almost every heavy out there. Vitali Klitschko has a hard punch, but he's so overrated. Champion Emeritus my a***. He 'retired' injured. Either his injury wasn't as bad as he made out, or he's still got problems that will affect him in the long haul. Peter is hungry and wants it more, and for me it's inevitable he'll be a world champion.
Maybe Maskaev is wanting to bypass them both to face Oliver McCall, who also has a guarenteed shot at this belt. For what it's worth, I think McCall would beat Maskaev as well, so he's on borrowed time no matter what option he chooses.
Just wondering what your definition of overated is as it relates to Vitali?Why because he only has 34 knockouts in 35 wins?His two fights that were loses ocured only because of injury in both cases he was ahead on the cards over Byrd and Lewis.He has knocked out guys that had never been stopped before.He is technically sound and has a great chin.
Maybe because the WBC named the guy Champion Emiritus after he made one defence of his title and retired. At the mo, he's treated like the second coming of Tyson, and while he's a great fighter, he's not as good as his younger bro IMO.
He didn't have much choice in retiring due to an injury.The WBC rules state it clear as day, he wasn't given anything.
