Why Is Everyone So Suprised About Williams?

Everyone seems to be suprised that he won and the fashion in which he did....

Williams was already a star and I felt very confident about this for everything Williams is and presents in the ring... He has a tremendous workrate punch selection and poise, good inside fighting and athletisim moving in and out of range very well and being effective.. He far from loads up on punching but he relies on overwhelming you......

I liken it to mergeing onto the highway, you can have the fastest and most powerful car, but if you cant merge do to volume of traffic on the road, what good is it? Paul created traffic and minimzed Tony's openings, Margarito blocked alot of punches, but Paul stifled his offense...

The only knock on Margarito, was the post fight bitterness and lack of Sportsmanship, he had no one to blame but himself

I think Paul answered any questions about his chin... He got caught by some big shots from Margarito and held up fine... He made it thru the deep dark waters of the fight and maintained, along with making a push through the championship rounds... A true war of attricion and battle of wills that he persevered through. He never lost composure and kept his cool, all attributes and intangibles of a good champion ;)

Agreed mate I didn't rate Margarito very highly before.

I was picking Williams months ago and Im legendary for my picks! 8) ;)

I too picked Williams. I wasn't surprised as I've said many times before how overrated Tony is. I feel the same could be said about Williams though. He was a bit pitter-patter on Saturday night don't you think?

I was surprised because well first off it was an easier fight for him than I expected, Margarito didn't throw as well as he usually does, and Paul Williams' defense was very good he didn't take punches he wasn't supposed to.


I would LOVE to see Floyd Mayweather Jr fight Paul Williams....finally a dragon has come along for Floyd to slay, and I don't think he's up for it. Paul Williams is the Tommy Hearns to Floyd's Ray Leonard and this fight needs to be made ASAP!

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Originally Posted by Lyle

I was surprised because well first off it was an easier fight for him than I expected, Margarito didn't throw as well as he usually does, and Paul Williams' defense was very good he didn't take punches he wasn't supposed to.


I would LOVE to see Floyd Mayweather Jr fight Paul Williams....finally a dragon has come along for Floyd to slay, and I don't think he's up for it. Paul Williams is the Tommy Hearns to Floyd's Ray Leonard and this fight needs to be made ASAP!

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You're waaaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of yourself here. He shouldn't get Floyd yet. Floyd has beaten great after great. Beating average Tony doesn't give you the right to face the P4P best. If he beats another name then maybe I'll begin to agree...but lets not overhype him already!

Hey man Paul Williams didn't just BEAT Margarito he kept Toni from throwing anything back at him. Williams can challenge him better than ANYONE ELSE up to and including Shane Mosley (who would be my next choice for Williams to fight) who Floyd is going to run and make a deal with so he doesn't have to fight Williams.

I see Williams-Cotto happening and IF Williams wins there then he should be the next in line for Floyd but he could have some success with him now. Paul did have trouble with fighters who throw faster than him like Mitchell but they just got worn down because of Williams' pressure.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Hey man Paul Williams didn't just BEAT Margarito he kept Toni from throwing anything back at him. Williams can challenge him better than ANYONE ELSE up to and including Shane Mosley (who would be my next choice for Williams to fight) who Floyd is going to run and make a deal with so he doesn't have to fight Williams.

I see Williams-Cotto happening and IF Williams wins there then he should be the next in line for Floyd but he could have some success with him now. Paul did have trouble with fighters who throw faster than him like Mitchell but they just got worn down because of Williams' pressure.

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Cuts and bruises on his face say he didn't stop him from throwing stuff back. Plus he was only pitter-patter punching. I'm sorry but there are more deserving fighters out there IMO. Cotto, Hatton & Mosley have all beaten better competition than Williams. Again, I think you're overhyping him from one performance. He's good, and it's a start, but he shoudln't get Floyd yet.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Hey man Paul Williams didn't just BEAT Margarito he kept Toni from throwing anything back at him. Williams can challenge him better than ANYONE ELSE up to and including Shane Mosley (who would be my next choice for Williams to fight) who Floyd is going to run and make a deal with so he doesn't have to fight Williams.

I see Williams-Cotto happening and IF Williams wins there then he should be the next in line for Floyd but he could have some success with him now. Paul did have trouble with fighters who throw faster than him like Mitchell but they just got worn down because of Williams' pressure.

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I agree that, this can have the potential to be like a Hearns SRR BUT he needs to beat Mosely or Cotto and then we got some legitamacy......

Because if not Heres what will happen, if Floyd beats Williams, people will say he was 2 green and that the win over Margarito means shite since he was a product of hype and the haters will be in full force :-\

Well I do see your point but he does have 32 wins....I would like to see him fight some more complete fighters. A Williams-Cintron fight would be good as well.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Well I do see your point but he does have 32 wins....I would like to see him fight some more complete fighters. A Williams-Cintron fight would be good as well.

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Unification and I'd be in total agreement with you. There is a big queue for Floyd right now though, and he's gotta get in it.

I have to admit i felt margarito was gonna pull it out...but i never thought of williams as any slouch...i just questioned his chin and punching power and it seems now that some of those questions are answered for now. Williams throws a ton of punches but so has margarito in the past so i thought it would be closer than it was yet not as close as they saw it.....however even after the win i feel cotto's body work would be too much for williams those 100 plus punch rounds would slowly dwindle down as rounds went on...and mayweather c'mon, but i agree he should throw his hat in that pool with everyone else i guess. Paul shocked and impressed a lot of people but i don't think to many true fight fans saw him winning as impossible.

...as for the cuts and bruises .....comparing his defense to what he had done in the past it's no question he did a better job, Margarito was the best fighter he's been up against and Toni beat a dude's ear off so a few cuts were to be expected.


I wonder how Williams would take a Cotto left hook to the body? ;D

He'd take em and that to me would be the problem.......

Well for starters I think Margarito fucked himself over if he would have at least thrown more early on and would have won 1 or 2 of the 1st, 6 rds. he would have won cause he usually does his best work late in the fights. I've said this before but whoever told him throwing less against someone like Williams is a good plan needs to be slapped.

I will say that Williams showed heart and a good chin, those body shots that Margarito threw would fold WIlliams in half I thought he'd go down but he didn't. IMO, Williams was untested up until this fight his biggest test 'til then could have been either Matthysse or Sharmba. I just thought Margaritos experience would be too much but Margarito didn't use it.

All praise be to Williams and he needs to work on putting more mustard on his punches cause you can't win all your fights like that.

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

Well for starters I think Margarito fucked himself over if he would have at least thrown more early on and would have won 1 or 2 of the 1st, 6 rds. he would have won cause he usually does his best work late in the fights. I've said this before but whoever told him throwing less against someone like Williams is a good plan needs to be slapped.

I will say that Williams showed heart and a good chin, those body shots that Margarito threw would fold WIlliams in half I thought he'd go down but he didn't. IMO, Williams was untested up until this fight his biggest test 'til then could have been either Matthysse or Sharmba. I just thought Margaritos experience would be too much but Margarito didn't use it.

All praise be to Williams and he needs to work on putting more mustard on his punches cause you can't win all your fights like that.

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Williams also has no amateur career to speak of so he is really somewhat green in more ways than one. He is good and using his strengths to hide his limitations as much as possible. It would help him to try and add more to his game though. If he could start to utilize his reach more and use distance as well as dictating the pace as he does. He would truly be a monster for his weight!! :o ;D

I like Williams, I would like him to take on another WW big gun before we even get to Mayweather. Mayweather wont want a piece of him yet. There is more money for him elsewhere.

I am not surprised about Williams at all.
He said he would punish Margarito.
All that shiet about him cutting him and hurting him in sparring?
Do you still believe that? I don't.
Williams just out hustled Tony but he never beat the crap out of him with those pitter patter punches. Kassim Ouma will do more damamge to an opponents face with his pitter patter punches than Williams does. Go figure.

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

I am not surprised about Williams at all.
He said he would punish Margarito.
All that shiet about him cutting him and hurting him in sparring?
Do you still believe that? I don't.
Williams just out hustled Tony but he never beat the crap out of him with those pitter patter punches. Kassim Ouma will do more damamge to an opponents face with his pitter patter punches than Williams does. Go figure.

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ive never seen anybody get as hurt as you are when one of their guys loses a fight.
keep praying that arum keeps cotto as far away from williams (he will) as possible, cause paul would put on a clinic against cotto.


chin up, sweetheart :-*





things will get better

I was sure that Margarito would break him down and stop him, but it never happened. Williams fought a smart fight for a tall guy, jabbin and circlin Tony and then clinching on the inside. He showed a good chin and heart in makin it thru the tough rounds especially the 11th where Tony went after him like crazy and looked to be on the verge of stopping him. Its too bad he didn't, because Tony looked spent in the 12th and thus was not able to win it. Had Margarito won that last round I would have had it a draw or 115-113 win for him, but he was just too tired, and Williams got the win. Good fight, I would not mind see'n a rematch.

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Why Is Everyone So Suprised About Williams?

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I wasn't suprised, but I did think it was the biggest test he faced. Matthysse and a washed up Sharmba(I've been KO'd again) Mitchell victories had everybody high on this kid, I just needed more.

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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

I am not surprised about Williams at all.
He said he would punish Margarito.
All that shiet about him cutting him and hurting him in sparring?
Do you still believe that? I don't.
Williams just out hustled Tony but he never beat the crap out of him with those pitter patter punches. Kassim Ouma will do more damamge to an opponents face with his pitter patter punches than Williams does. Go figure.

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ive never seen anybody get as hurt as you are when one of their guys loses a fight.
keep praying that arum keeps cotto as far away from williams (he will) as possible, cause paul would put on a clinic against cotto.


chin up, sweetheart :-*





things will get better

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What the phuk are you talking about? I could give a rats azz about Tony Margarito. I have never EVER been his fan and you can pretty much ask anyone on here. I just laugh because your boy friend is afraid of him. That is all. Don't get the shiet all twisted. I will never be a Tony fan for personal reasons. He is not a bad guy but I have personal issues against him. I want to see Williams/Cotto. Hell! I want to see Cotto fight everyone in the WWD. I am not a little fan boy like you who is content when Floyd fights old men and then does not even really fight them. He gets on his bike and bores people to death. Cotto will beat Williams. Trust me. I am not as worried as you are if PBF were to fight Williams. I know that there is yet another man in the WWD that you little Floyd fan boys are worried about. We all know PBF wont fight any of these guys so you can all keep your little posters of Floyd hanging over your little beds with shameless pride :) and sleep like little women.
Sweety.

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Originally Posted by Hulk

I was sure that Margarito would break him down and stop him, but it never happened. Williams fought a smart fight for a tall guy, jabbin and circlin Tony and then clinching on the inside. He showed a good chin and heart in makin it thru the tough rounds especially the 11th where Tony went after him like crazy and looked to be on the verge of stopping him. Its too bad he didn't, because Tony looked spent in the 12th and thus was not able to win it. Had Margarito won that last round I would have had it a draw or 115-113 win for him, but he was just too tired, and Williams got the win. Good fight, I would not mind see'n a rematch.

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A rematch would be good. I liked this kid Williams. He is not very best but he is sort of fun to watch. He stays busy he moves all around he works on the outside he works some on the inside he has a lot of tools pretty nice chin. Does a little too much holding from time to time but he knows when to hold and boy does he have a long reach around a guy when he wraps them up. Amazing how he would just spin Tony around while wrapped around his waist like a giant snake. The kid will get better and has very good stamina. Knows how to stay busy and will be a thrill to watch in the future.