Anyone fancy explaining how the funk he's got this shot? (i know, i know)
A record that consists of nothing but journeymen, has absolutely no physical advantages at all.
This looks as big a mismatch as Enzo-Gunn :-\
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Anyone fancy explaining how the funk he's got this shot? (i know, i know)
A record that consists of nothing but journeymen, has absolutely no physical advantages at all.
This looks as big a mismatch as Enzo-Gunn :-\
To be honest with you, Rees is going to be a big underdog...and you're right he's unproven. But I'm going to point to a recent example, that of Kelly Pavlik. Personally, there was nothing on his record until Edison Miranda, and with fighters that have developed undefeated records to this extent, their first test will always be a big one, and I think we'll get to see whether Rees will sink or swim here this weekend.
M'baye is way away from being the greatest champion, and so nearly lost last time out, so no better time for Rees to get his shot.
Jeezus that's optimism for ya ;D
Think you're off with the Pavlik comparision, mate. Pavlik had started to look like a world class operator going into the Miranda fight.
I'm not sure Rees could even win the British title :-\
Well not just a comparison with Pavlik, but the situation in general, because as well as Rees being nothing like Pavlik, M'baye is nothing near Miranda in my opinion, but i think the levels they're at is the same, and with Rees finally being motivated and getting a shot, you never know. ;) Mark Pretend you never heard my words.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I'm not sure how much you have seen of gav, but one thingis for sure, hes no bum and has been stand out at enzo's gym for a long time, this shot would of come alot sooner, sadly for gav he has picmed up alot of injurys...
If your shocked now hes got the shot, shit can't wait to see how shocked you all are when eh walks away with the WBA strap;)
M'Baye is a beatable champ but I'll still be shocked if Rees wins. He's fought absolutely nobody.
His opponents record is 316-815-44 with a 27% win rate. Thats ok for a 3 year fighter, but Rees's recent is even LOWER in his recent fights.
I'm not saying he can't win. I know better than that. But I fail to see why he got this shot (ok, I know why) and how he can win...
Good luck to him though.
M'Baye is a shocking champion. If Rees loses this, he should retire, and then I'll work down to 140lbs, put the gloves on and knock the shit outta M'Baye myself.
I'm not a stats man but that one (taansend posted) says it all.
Ive seen Rees fight a few times when he was around FEATHER. M'baye might be no great shakes but i really will be SHOCKED if he doesn't beat the shit out of Rees.
M'Baye will knock him out in the late rounds.
if gav was not with enzo he would not have got a shot at the title its only because his son is world champ that he is fighting for the title gav has messed up with his weight for over 2 years you cant train go on piss fight in street or in funeral go to jail and think the public will take you seriously gav should not win but on warren show you can naver say no;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
That was shocking. You're Shocked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Well, well, Rees confounded everyone, including me when he won that belt. Despite having that Welshman's hope in the face of all the facts, I never really thought Rees would be able to do what he did. Fantastic for him, and I hope he can continue to hang on to the belt, because no way is he a natural LWW.
Yeah mate full respect to Rees he did a great job...especially in caning my pocket ;D
Brilliant fights all night long and Rees fought brilliantly and i love his slappy body shots that he fires off ;D
Respect to the little fella. Some of the lads on the Hatton site had a punt at 8/1 on him. Wish I'd of chanced it now.
Can't see him hanging about at 140 too long though..well, long enough to get a defence in but I can't really see who'd be next...
I can't believe people are so surprised. I though Rees would win. Not because of him, but M'Baye is one of the worst 'world' champs I've ever seen. Lazy bastard who is there to be hit. Found out doesn't even begin to describe Saturday night's performance.
That's why I went for Rees on points as my Joker pick for the prediction comp. Yah, I been yelling it from the rooftops ever since. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
And anyway, I'm sure Frank was glad to have a reason to show M'baye the door because he's not exactly good for business with that style.
Well when I first heard about the fight, I felt it was Warren's way of getting the belt of Mbaye onto another of his fighters so he still had a world champion, but no Mbaye. Rees ruined him, and it was a special performance. I hope they don't go for unification with Witter yet. Give him time to establish himself going 12 rounds and defending.Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
I was confused to why Warren signed Mbaye in the first place. Basing an average at best Frenchman in Bolton were he has no fans his hardly a money spinner.
Surely give Rees a few months to grow about four inches and he can fight with Witter is also neccessary I feel. ;). Rees winning was much better for Warren the an M'baye win, also because he's already got plenty of fighters fighting out of south Wales.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
I know, 3 world champions on the same bill at the millenium will surely be a sell out?
Well lets look at the circumstances surrounding that:Quote:
I was confused to why Warren signed Mbaye in the first place. Basing an average at best Frenchman in Bolton were he has no fans his hardly a money spinner.
- Ricky Hatton had split, somewhat acrimoniously, from Frank Warren
- Ricky then won the WBA strap from Carlos Maussa
- M'Baye was the WBA mandatory
- M'Baye was signed up by Frank Warren
- WBA said that Ricky must fight his mandatory or vacate
- Ricky vacated
- Frank now had control of one portion of the 140lb division and also managed to take it from Ricky Hatton
Wether you feel it's petulance or sharp practive you gotta admit Franks slick...
People forget just how hard Frank made it for Ricky at that time. Signing up exclusive deals with the MEN arena etc...
That's just petty shit though. Signing up a guy who will make you very little money just to piss off the guy that left you high and dry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steelie
Yes, I know that we've probably been over this, however I've finally dragged my candy ass out of the pastand watched Rees v M'baye for the full period, and it's obvious to me that Rees was way ahead going down the stretch. I think he might do alright for a while up there, but if he is as committed as he claims to be, eventually he'll take a few steps down and fight at the lower weights.
How many times do you think Rees will defend the title if any? I think he is way to small for the divison and any of the top LW will fancy getting in the ring will him.
Iv seen him fight but dont no much about rees, anyone care to enlighten me on this much famed troubled past???
A couple of years ago he chinned someone at a funeral and got a years ban
cc thanks fenster
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Surely they can understand that funerals are emotional affairs and especially in the valleys where extended families tend to be quite close, then people often have issues with their cousins, uncles nephews etc. Seems a little bit harsh, but perhaps I don't know the full story.
Well i can totally understand, at my grandmothers funeral i was openly insulted by 2 neighbours three times. Now i wouldn be the aggresive type but with all the emotion flyin around and the fact i had been provoked, i had to leave MY house in order to avoid assaulting on of them.
Hmm.. I don't know exactly what happened but it couldn't of just been some silly half-hearted altercation between pissed up family members cause he was spared a prison sentence by the skin of his teeth.Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
I heard Rees would be defending his WBA Super-Lightweight title on the Calzaghe vs Kessler bill. Any news on the opponent?
I think Witter was angling for that shot if he could get it, but I doubt Warren would throw Rees in the deep end so early. I'm sure it'll be a fairly low-key opponent so that Rees can celebrate winning the title in front of a huge audience in Cardiff.Quote:
Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob
Yeh too soon for a Witter fight. There was an article in the SW Echo regarding possible opponents and which fighters were ranked by the WBA. I'll try and find it and post it-up.Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
Sweet, would be much appreciated if you can find it.Quote:
Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob
For me Rees will do well to beat his mandatory Kotelnik, I went to the Olympia when he drew with M'Baye and he beat M'Baye that night as far as I was concerned.
Boxing: Champ Rees waits for next opponent
Jul 28 2007
by Gareth Jones, South Wales Echo
WALES’ newest world champion, Gavin Rees, is famously unworried about who he fights – as befits someone who has not lost in 12 years – but the game’s movers and shakers are already looking ahead to his first defence of the WBA light-welter title.
The 27-year-old Newbridge product, who shocked the boxing world with his comprehensive victory over French holder Souleymane Mbaye at Cardiff International Arena last weekend, will be back in action at the Millennium Stadium on November 3.
Rees will have to take on Ukrainian mandatory challenger Andreas Kotelnik, who drew with Mbaye in March, but that is unlikely to happen before 2008.
So promoter Frank Warren will be seeking a likely lad for a voluntary defence on a bill which already features Joe Calzaghe’s super-middle showdown with Mikkel Kessler and Enzo Maccarinelli’s next outing, hopefully against his IBF counterpart, Steve Cunningham.
While Warren does not rule out a future meeting with Ricky Hatton, Gavin himself sees it as unrealistic.
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Boxing: Champ Rees waits for next opponent
Jul 28 2007
by Gareth Jones, South Wales Echo
WALES’ newest world champion, Gavin Rees, is famously unworried about who he fights – as befits someone who has not lost in 12 years – but the game’s movers and shakers are already looking ahead to his first defence of the WBA light-welter title.
The 27-year-old Newbridge product, who shocked the boxing world with his comprehensive victory over French holder Souleymane Mbaye at Cardiff International Arena last weekend, will be back in action at the Millennium Stadium on November 3.
Rees will have to take on Ukrainian mandatory challenger Andreas Kotelnik, who drew with Mbaye in March, but that is unlikely to happen before 2008.
So promoter Frank Warren will be seeking a likely lad for a voluntary defence on a bill which already features Joe Calzaghe’s super-middle showdown with Mikkel Kessler and Enzo Maccarinelli’s next outing, hopefully against his IBF counterpart, Steve Cunningham.
While Warren does not rule out a future meeting with Ricky Hatton, Gavin himself sees it as unrealistic.
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“Hatton would be a dream fight, but I know I’m not a big enough name for him,” he says. “He’s in the States having big-money fights, so good luck to him. I’m just looking forward to defending my title and I’m prepared to fight anyone in the world.”
So let us take a look at the likely candidates, excluding Kotelnik from the equation. The WBA’s most recent rankings, compiled before last Saturday’s changing of the guard, include no fewer than nine undefeated prospects.
Five of them – Dmitriy Salita, Lamont Peterson, Demetrius Hopkins (Bernard’s nephew), Timothy Bradley and David Torres – are American, with two Argentinians, No.2-ranked Marcos Maidana and Cesar Cuenca, Frenchman Willy Blain and lanky Colombian Breidis Prescott completing the collection.
Another American, Victor Ortiz, has a record marred only by a disqualification loss and a technical draw, both in the first round, so, in effect, he too has yet to meet anyone superior.
As Rees’ own performance underlined, nobody knows just how good an unbeaten fighter may be. Any of the above, therefore, would pose a risk, particularly bangers like Maidana (18 stoppages in 19 wins) and Prescott, whose 13 quick wins in 14 suggest he punches at least as hard as political namesake John.
Southpaw Cuenca, on the other hand, has halted only one of his 26 victims, while former Olympian Blain, also a lefty, has finished just three of 17 bouts early.
The others in the eligible Top 15 are 36-year-old Thai Yodsanan Sor Nantachai, a former WBA super-feather boss, Indonesian Daudy Bahari and Japanese southpaw Norio Kimura, but, for some reason, Far Eastern boxers rarely visit Britain. Economics invariably come into the decision, too.
With Calzaghe-Kessler costing a fortune and a Maccarinelli-Cunningham bout unlikely to come cheap, Warren will not want to spend too much on a foe for Rees.
The Argentinians tend to accept lower purses, while the Yanks are more likely to interest transatlantic television.
With more than three months to go, the name-juggling will continue for a while yet.
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one thing that will always be a pain for gav his his hight, his body is naturaly to big really for him now to fight below super-lightweight... i think hatton could be a step to far for him 'coz he lacks the power to hurt hatton - paulie i would wager is to fast and to savy, gav would need to get on the inside, tie him up all night, don't think he will be able to do it long enough to win on any cards..
witter tho, i dunn, call me crazy but i will pick gav to beat him, everyone seemedto think i was nuts when i picked him to win the wba in his last outing, he has thr style, the punch output and stamina to beat witter over 12 rounds imo.
I reckon Rees might fancy another fight against a really tall fighter, because he seemed happy to duck under the Mbaye guard and hammer away to the body. Then again, his challenger would probably want to do a lot more work than Mbaye. And check my predictions....I had Rees to win last time too. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Preme