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Early Poll: David Diaz - Erik Morales...who wins...
I really have no idea how good Diaz really is. He was gifted the WBC belt and now he goes in with a legend who is stepping up in weight for what is likely going to be Morales' last fight.
I wanted to know how good you think he is, and if you think he can win this. (I know we're about a month and a half away)
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Re: Early Poll: David Diaz - Erik Morales...who wins...
I cannot even make a pick here. I want Erik to win but I dont know if he can. If he does win then he might continue and I dont want that either.
I just dont know with this fight.
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Re: Early Poll: David Diaz - Erik Morales...who wins...
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I think your poll should just have 1 option.
o Diaz
I really hope and wish Erik retires and soon. :-\
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Re: Early Poll: David Diaz - Erik Morales...who wins...
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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I think your poll should just have 1 option.
o Diaz
I really hope and wish Erik retires and soon. :-\
Or fights Gatti at a catchweight............
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Re: Early Poll: David Diaz - Erik Morales...who wins...
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Originally Posted by killersheep
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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I think your poll should just have 1 option.
o Diaz
I really hope and wish Erik retires and soon. :-\
Or fights Gatti at a catchweight............
That'a not funny killersheep >:mad
Yes it is ;D
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Re: Early Poll: David Diaz - Erik Morales...who wins...
I have no clue being that I've never seen Diaz fight. I'm a huge Morales fan and I'm hoping he can pull this out then hang em up.
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Re: Early Poll: David Diaz - Erik Morales...who wins...
:lolhaha:
Gotta love the poll, 100% in favour of Diaz!
Morales is done, and how good Diaz is is irrelevent.
What I love about this fight though is that right now Morales is a strong betting favourite so I'll jump on this one and lay £50 on Diaz to beat him I think.
You gotta love diehard fans who keep these prices good for those of us with a clear head.
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Re: Early Poll: David Diaz - Erik Morales...who wins...
Shot or not. Diaz can not, will not beat Morales. Morales by knock out. Hopefully he'll retire afterwards.
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Re: Early Poll: David Diaz - Erik Morales...who wins...
I'm in the minority here but I think Morales wins this
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Re: Early Poll: David Diaz - Erik Morales...who wins...
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Shot or not. Diaz can not, will not beat Morales. Morales by knock out. Hopefully he'll retire afterwards.
I remember something similar last week, Gatti KO Round 1 ;D
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Re: Early Poll: David Diaz - Erik Morales...who wins...
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Shot or not. Diaz can not, will not beat Morales. Morales by knock out. Hopefully he'll retire afterwards.
I remember something similar last week, Gatti KO Round 1 ;D
Morales has always been a better fighter than Gatti. I don't think Morales is as shot as Gatti was. At least I hope he's not
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Re: Early Poll: David Diaz - Erik Morales...who wins...
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Shot or not. Diaz can not, will not beat Morales. Morales by knock out. Hopefully he'll retire afterwards.
I remember something similar last week, Gatti KO Round 1 ;D
Morales has always been a better fighter than Gatti. I don't think Morales is as shot as Gatti was. At least I hope he's not
Obviously Morales WAS always far better than Gatti... But Im not sure he isn't almost just as shot now. I thought Gatti was going to KO Gomez as well. The thing is, Gatti showed more life against Baldomir than Morales did in the rubber match with Pac.. Sure they both got Ko'ed and looked finished in the end, but you have to assume Gatti would have always lost to Baldomir at welter, and at least he showed flashes of himself, boxing well and landing some big shots before being Koed late.. Morales appeared to have absolutely nothing on his punches and no legs. I hope it was in large part due to the weight, but even if it was, he can't just expect to be back in old form because he doesn't have to lose the weight now, the damage is done.. Just like it was with Castillo and Corrales, if you ask me..
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Re: Early Poll: David Diaz - Erik Morales...who wins...
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Originally Posted by Galaxy.
I'm in the minority here but I think Morales wins this
I'm with you. Go Erik!
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Re: Early Poll: David Diaz - Erik Morales...who wins...
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Shot or not. Diaz can not, will not beat Morales. Morales by knock out. Hopefully he'll retire afterwards.
I remember something similar last week, Gatti KO Round 1 ;D
Morales has always been a better fighter than Gatti. I don't think Morales is as shot as Gatti was. At least I hope he's not
Obviously Morales WAS always far better than Gatti... But Im not sure he isn't almost just as shot now. I thought Gatti was going to KO Gomez as well. The thing is, Gatti showed more life against Baldomir than Morales did in the rubber match with Pac.. Sure they both got Ko'ed and looked finished in the end, but you have to assume Gatti would have always lost to Baldomir at welter, and at least he showed flashes of himself, boxing well and landing some big shots before being Koed late.. Morales appeared to have absolutely nothing on his punches and no legs. I hope it was in large part due to the weight, but even if it was, he can't just expect to be back in old form because he doesn't have to lose the weight now, the damage is done.. Just like it was with Castillo and Corrales, if you ask me..
Morales definitely can't make 130 lbs any more as we've seen. Trouble is his last move to 135 lb he got schooled by Zahir Raheem.
I'm going to rewatch Diaz's fight with Santa Cruz tomorrow as that's the only fight of his I've got but if he shows me a chin and an ability to fight hard and last then I say he beats Morales.
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Re: Early Poll: David Diaz - Erik Morales...who wins...
Through out the years I have been a big Morales fan. But I ask what the hell is he doing getting a title shot at lightweight. He's never fought at 135, much less won a fight there.
Morales in addition has lost three straight fights, KO'd in his last two fights and lost four of his last five.
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Re: Early Poll: David Diaz - Erik Morales...who wins...
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Originally Posted by ghoster
I ask what the hell is he doing getting a title shot at lightweight.
He's Morales.
If he was Bert Reynolds and he had lost three straight fights, KO'd in his last two fights and lost four of his last five...
... THEN I'd agree with you.
BUT he's Morales.
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Re: Early Poll: David Diaz - Erik Morales...who wins...
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
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Originally Posted by ghoster
I ask what the hell is he doing getting a title shot at lightweight.
He's Morales.
If he was Bert Reynolds and he had lost three straight fights, KO'd in his last two fights and lost four of his last five...
... THEN I'd agree with you.
BUT he's
Morales.
And theres the fact that, "what the hell is David Diaz doing with a belt" is the better question anyway you slice it. If Casamayor hadn't been screwed out of the belt then Id be asking the same thing as Ghoster here, to be honest. Morales being Morales isn't enough reason to put him in harms way when he hasn't shown he's capable of performing at a championship level currently. The thing that stinks about this is that I feel they only stripped Casamayor because Morales wanted another shot at 135. Legend or not, it's BS how the WBC just pulled some strings to get him his best possible chance of winning a belt, at the expense of the real champ.
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Re: Early Poll: David Diaz - Erik Morales...who wins...
The alphabet idiots do as they please.
That's why IMO this is a fight between the #3 lightweight (D. Diaz) & the #5 Jr. Lightweight (Morales) nothing more!!!
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Re: Early Poll: David Diaz - Erik Morales...who wins...
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Originally Posted by Galaxy.
The alphabet idiots do as they please.
That's why IMO this is a fight between the #3 lightweight (D. Diaz) & the #5 Jr. Lightweight (Morales) nothing more!!!
Agreed..Though I would say Diaz is at best #5 at lightweight as well... Casa, both Julio and Juan Diaz, and Nate Campbell are clearly better imo.. Guys like Katsidis, Edner Cherry, and Anthony Peterson would also whip David Diaz if you ask me.
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Re: Early Poll: David Diaz - Erik Morales...who wins...
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by Galaxy.
The alphabet idiots do as they please.
That's why IMO this is a fight between the #3 lightweight (D. Diaz) & the #5 Jr. Lightweight (Morales) nothing more!!!
Agreed..Though I would say Diaz is at best #5 at lightweight as well... Casa, both Julio and Juan Diaz, and Nate Campbell are clearly better imo.. Guys like Katsidis, Edner Cherry, and Anthony Peterson would also whip David Diaz if you ask me.
Just going by how their rated in the latest Ring rankings. Casamayor is the champ followed by Juan, Julio, David & then Nate
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Re: Early Poll: David Diaz - Erik Morales...who wins...
I voted Morales just out of respect for the man.
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Re: Early Poll: David Diaz - Erik Morales...who wins...
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
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Originally Posted by ghoster
I ask what the hell is he doing getting a title shot at lightweight.
He's Morales.
If he was Bert Reynolds and he had lost three straight fights, KO'd in his last two fights and lost four of his last five...
... THEN I'd agree with you.
BUT he's
Morales.
And theres the fact that, "what the hell is David Diaz doing with a belt" is the better question anyway you slice it. If Casamayor hadn't been screwed out of the belt then Id be asking the same thing as Ghoster here, to be honest. Morales being Morales isn't enough reason to put him in harms way when he hasn't shown he's capable of performing at a championship level currently. The thing that stinks about this is that I feel they only stripped Casamayor because Morales wanted another shot at 135. Legend or not, it's BS how the WBC just pulled some strings to get him his best possible chance of winning a belt, at the expense of the real champ.
To the hell I'm going to argue for WBC. ;D
I just stated that Morales...... old, shot, and the loser he is right now or whatever you or anybody says he is...
the man MORE than anybody in his era (except for Barrera) has earned his right for this "belt."
He's the only fighter, since the great Ali to have two great trilogies with Hall of Fame opponents. (Pac and Barrera will get in.)
I don't think this fight should be made, to be honest, but the game has this much respect for him. If it were up to me, I'd either have Morales fight an easy and entertaining fight or exhibition in his home city in Mexico or just retire.
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Re: Early Poll: David Diaz - Erik Morales...who wins...
Nostalgia wants me to say Morales will win, and I'll root for him all the way, but I feel the same way I did about Gatti. I think he's shot.
Diaz by KO :-[
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Re: Early Poll: David Diaz - Erik Morales...who wins...
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Re: Early Poll: David Diaz - Erik Morales...who wins...
Diaz wins but want Erik to.