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Best Fighters with ugly records.
In ur opinion who's the best fighter/fighters with a not so great record?
I'll give the first 2...
Freddie Pendleton = 47-26-5
Emanuel Augustus = 35-28-6
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A few come to mind.....
Glen Johnson
LaPorte
Paez
Ezzard
Tiger
Strickland :P
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Joe Louis...When you actually look at his record he has about 10 good names and he lost to some of them....
Froma appearence of record on paper you would never guess he is the second greatest HW to ever fight
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Joe Louis...
Really?
3 loses in 72 fights isn't bad.
The way I understood the question was in a win vs. loose ratio?
You might be answering it in a different aspect.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Joe Louis...
Really?
3 loses in 72 fights isn't bad.
The way I understood the question was in a win vs. loose ratio?
You might be answering it in a different aspect.
You may be right I was looking at it by amount of quality names on resume??....
If we are going by win loss then I take my pick back
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Joe Louis...When you actually look at his record he has about 10 good names and he lost to some of them....
Froma appearence of record on paper you would never guess he is the second greatest HW to ever fight
TREASON!!!
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Joe Louis...When you actually look at his record he has about 10 good names and he lost to some of them....
Froma appearence of record on paper you would never guess he is the second greatest HW to ever fight
LOL, and people have to ask if boxing fans are too hard on boxers for losing. 69-3 and you're saying that is ugly? Joe Louis has one of the most spectacular records in boxing history.
The one that jumps to my mind is Jersey Joe Walcott (51-18)
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IMO the greatest fighter of all time Henry Armstrong's record looks nasty if you just look at the numbers, but he's the greatest fighter who ever lived IMO
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Jimmy Young
Tim Witherspoon
Mike Weaver
Not the best but still good fighters.
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Ooohh, Jimmy Young is a good one. He has that famous win over Foreman and a couple of wins over Ron Lyle to. He was a slick motherfucker, much better than his record gives him credit for.
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Originally Posted by Beanflicker
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Joe Louis...When you actually look at his record he has about 10 good names and he lost to some of them....
Froma appearence of record on paper you would never guess he is the second greatest HW to ever fight
LOL, and people have to ask if boxing fans are too hard on boxers for losing. 69-3 and you're saying that is ugly? Joe Louis has one of the most spectacular records in boxing history.
The one that jumps to my mind is Jersey Joe Walcott (51-18)
Good one. :)
Juanito Rubillar
Louie Espinoza
Ricardo Arredondo
Manny Melchor
Santos Laciar
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Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Ooohh, Jimmy Young is a good one. He has that famous win over Foreman and a couple of wins over Ron Lyle to. He was a slick motherfucker, much better than his record gives him credit for.
Yea he also imo won Ali fight and Norton fight was pretty close and also fought to a draw with Shavers he went bit hot and cold in fights but when he was on form he was tough nights work for anyone as Foreman found out.
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Freddie Pendleton was a good fighter how he lost so many early fights is a mystery :)
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Originally Posted by Beanflicker
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Joe Louis...When you actually look at his record he has about 10 good names and he lost to some of them....
Froma appearence of record on paper you would never guess he is the second greatest HW to ever fight
LOL, and people have to ask if boxing fans are too hard on boxers for losing. 69-3 and you're saying that is ugly? Joe Louis has one of the most spectacular records in boxing history.
The one that jumps to my mind is Jersey Joe Walcott (51-18)
Before you make comments maybe you should read all the post and see why Joe Louis was mentioned in the first place
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Considering how Gatti is regarded, his record doesn't look as great as it should.
I would have thought considering that Oscar has been around since the dawn of time he'd have more wins on his record. His statistical record doesn't do justice to how great he is.
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by Beanflicker
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Joe Louis...When you actually look at his record he has about 10 good names and he lost to some of them....
Froma appearence of record on paper you would never guess he is the second greatest HW to ever fight
LOL, and people have to ask if boxing fans are too hard on boxers for losing. 69-3 and you're saying that is ugly? Joe Louis has one of the most spectacular records in boxing history.
The one that jumps to my mind is Jersey Joe Walcott (51-18)
Before you make comments maybe you should read all the post and see why Joe Louis was mentioned in the first place
Sorry, and I'm not someone who likes to take shots at people, but I still am dumbfounded as to why you brought up Joe Louis. Taking into the account of the description of the thread in the original post, I have no idea how you thought of Joe Louis. It baffles me.
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Jack Johnson 92-14 stuck around too long
Joe Bugner 69-13 at 48 beats Bonecrusher Smith,beat Jimmy Ellis,beat Henry Cooper,except for a couple of notable exceptions,all of his losses were to the best in the buisness
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Originally Posted by Beanflicker
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by Beanflicker
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Joe Louis...When you actually look at his record he has about 10 good names and he lost to some of them....
Froma appearence of record on paper you would never guess he is the second greatest HW to ever fight
LOL, and people have to ask if boxing fans are too hard on boxers for losing. 69-3 and you're saying that is ugly? Joe Louis has one of the most spectacular records in boxing history.
The one that jumps to my mind is Jersey Joe Walcott (51-18)
Before you make comments maybe you should read all the post and see why Joe Louis was mentioned in the first place
Sorry, and I'm not someone who likes to take shots at people, but I still am dumbfounded as to why you brought up Joe Louis. Taking into the account of the description of the thread in the original post, I have no idea how you thought of Joe Louis. It baffles me.
Once again I took it as being names on resumes.....
Take a look at Louis Resume in 73 fights.....
once again while you sit there baffled at why I said that I am baffled how you missed
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Joe Louis...
Really?
3 loses in 72 fights isn't bad.
The way I understood the question was in a win vs. loose ratio?
You might be answering it in a different aspect.
You may be right I was looking at it by amount of quality names on resume??....
If we are going by win loss then I take my pick back
Where I even said I take my pick back....Must have not been showing up on your screen huh?...... ::**
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
Considering how Gatti is regarded, his record doesn't look as great as it should.
I would have thought considering that Oscar has been around since the dawn of time he'd have more wins on his record. His statistical record doesn't do justice to how great he is.
I have grudgingly grown to respect Oscar. He takes on the best and his record just shows the quality of opposition he has been up against. It is a who's who in boxing at his era. I wish more fighters would have the guts to face so many elite fighters in one career.
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Steve Robinson 32-17-2
He was 13-9-1, and coming off a loss, when he stepped in on 2 days notice to fight Davidson.
Between that and his loss to Naz he fought, and beat, opponents with a combined 202-21-8, including 3 decent world champions, all of whom were favoured against him.
The greatest British Cinderella man. He truly learnt his craft in the ring.
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Freddie Pendleton was a good fighter how he lost so many early fights is a mystery :)
Right first i'll mention JLC!
And secondly much like jlc freddie gives you the impression that he was not the fighter he became from the start ..He learnt his craft by boxing as a professional and bieng sucha good bloke he learnt from his experiances and made the best of every occurance good or bad
Peace
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Cut me mick mentioned Dick Tiger Nice story . He was 0 and 6 when he stopped Terry Downes in 4. A reporter after the fight asked Terry who hed like to fight next his reply The Fucking Matchmaker.
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
Jack Johnson 92-14 stuck around too long
Joe Bugner 69-13 at 48 beats Bonecrusher Smith,beat Jimmy Ellis,beat Henry Cooper,except for a couple of notable exceptions,all of his losses were to the best in the buisness
Cooper was robbed against Bugner and Smith lost the Bugner fight due to an injury he did surprise me against Frazier though.
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In ur opinion who's the best fighter/fighters with a not so great record?
I'll give the first 2...
Freddie Pendleton = 47-26-5
Emanuel Augustus = 35-28-6
Lionel Butler, I remember sparring with him, I was just coming out of the amatures around 92 93 ? cant remember dates.. He had a losing record something like 9 win , 10 losses, hit like a truck , was fast as all F#$k. took me a few days to start getting the best of him . remember thinking to meself who the hell beat him ? victum of poor managment, he could have been a threat if brought along correct, this i can promise.
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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In ur opinion who's the best fighter/fighters with a not so great record?
I'll give the first 2...
Freddie Pendleton = 47-26-5
Emanuel Augustus = 35-28-6
Lionel Butler, I remember sparring with him, I was just coming out of the amatures around 92 93 ? cant remember dates.. He had a losing record something like 9 win , 10 losses, hit like a truck , was fast as all F#$k. took me a few days to start getting the best of him . remember thinking to meself who the hell beat him ? victum of poor managment, he could have been a threat if brought along correct, this i can promise.
Butler turned it around, the way he leveled Tony Tubbs was awesome. Had a good run at it, til he ran into Lewis that is. Mike Weaver is another heavyweight that turned around too.
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Originally Posted by Scrap
Cut me mick mentioned Dick Tiger Nice story . He was 0 and 6 when he stopped Terry Downes in 4. A reporter after the fight asked Terry who hed like to fight next his reply The F****** Matchmaker.
Ha HA Ha now I can't really blame the guy for wanting to do that...
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Freddie Pendleton was a good fighter how he lost so many early fights is a mystery :)
Right first i'll mention JLC!
And secondly much like jlc freddie gives you the impression that he was not the fighter he became from the start ..He learnt his craft by boxing as a professional and bieng sucha good bloke he learnt from his experiances and made the best of every occurance good or bad
Peace
Pendleton was the name that immediately came to mind for me as well. His record was 24-16 when he faced Pernell Whitaker, and he gave him by far the toughest fight that Whitaker had during his reign as lightweight champ. Pendleton legitimately won 3 or 4 rounds, more than guys like Greg Haugen, Jose Luis Ramirez, Azumah Nelson, Jorge Paez, etc.
Pendleton faced guys like Frankie Randall, Roger Mayweather, Livingstone Bramble, Whitaker, Paez, Ruelas, Trinidad, Vince Phillips, Terron Millett, James Page, Tackie, Hatton
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Where I even said I take my pick back....Must have not been showing up on your screen huh?...... ::**
I saw you take your pick back, but everyone can plainly see you put Louis out there as you never edited your post. I can understand you getting defensive and snippy at me, but damn man I just had to say that was one hell of a weird choice.
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Originally Posted by Scrap
Cut me mick mentioned Dick Tiger Nice story . He was 0 and 6 when he stopped Terry Downes in 4. A reporter after the fight asked Terry who hed like to fight next his reply The Fucking Matchmaker.
Thats fwocken classic. ;D
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Originally Posted by taansend
Steve Robinson 32-17-2
He was 13-9-1, and coming off a loss, when he stepped in on 2 days notice to fight Davidson.
Between that and his loss to Naz he fought, and beat, opponents with a combined 202-21-8, including 3 decent world champions, all of whom were favoured against him.
The greatest British Cinderella man. He truly learnt his craft in the ring.
CC#376 taansend
Thats a really good one, considering the kind of career he had in the early/mid 90's.
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Originally Posted by Beanflicker
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Where I even said I take my pick back....Must have not been showing up on your screen huh?...... ::**
I saw you take your pick back, but everyone can plainly see you put Louis out there as you never edited your post. I can understand you getting defensive and snippy at me, but damn man I just had to say that was one hell of a weird choice.
Don't get me wrong.....I knew posting it in the first place I would get some feed back...But like I said I thought the post meant it in a diffrent way....I was thinking quality of opposition....And as good as Loius was he really has a lot of bums on his resume....No reference to the bum of the month club.....I mean the guy went long periods of time with nothing but cab drivers...Of course much of that has to do with the era...for about 3 years or so there was no one to fight.....
As for editing my post...If I went and fixed every post I was wrong on I would spend half my day on here....
CC to ya..
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CC back to ya, I see where you're coming from now...
My first impression was that you just didn't like Joe Louis hahah
