1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Bernard Hopkins
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Rafael Marquez
6. Ricky Hatton
7. Winky Wright
8. Shane Mosley
9. Jermain Taylor
10. Mikkel Kessler
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1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Bernard Hopkins
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Rafael Marquez
6. Ricky Hatton
7. Winky Wright
8. Shane Mosley
9. Jermain Taylor
10. Mikkel Kessler
where is Miguel Cotto?
Didn't you used to have Vic Darchinyan in your list ??? :-X :-X :-X Anyway,,not a bad list although I'd have Rafa above Juan Manuel as he has fought the tougher fighters overall. I don't think Hatton should be above Wright and where is Calzaghe? Like him or hate him,he's done more in that division than anyone including Kessler who you have at 10. Also,Shane should not be in there. WIns over Collazo and 2 over a shot Vargas does not make P4P. Cotto could squeeze in at 10.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sugar_Shaw
No Calzaghe??? ??? ??? ???
Kessler has beaten Andrade and Mundine, all three of them are better than Lacy and look at the fuss that was made after Calzaghe beat him.
CC,although I don't agree that either is necessarily better than Jeff,if you look at who Kessler has beaten(Mundine,Andrade,Siaca,Lucas,Beyer and usually in their backyards) compared to JC(Lacy,Eubank,Reid,brewer,verit),I actually think overall,Kess has beaten the better fighters! Shit,thanks for opening my eyes to that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sugar_Shaw
My P4P list:
Mayweather
Rafael Marquez
Pacquiao
Hopkins
Jermain Taylor
Wright
Juan Manuel Marquez
Hatton
Kessler
Calzaghe
Guys close to it are Calderon,Cotto,Mosley and a few others.
Even my P4P list is the same !!!!!!!!!!! ;)
Sara
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c'mon guys, where will you put cotto? ???
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Originally Posted by Sugar_Shaw
How the hell have you got Taylor up there but no Pavlik!!
And no Calzaghe...10 years champion and Kessler is higher
And Cotto is nowhere ????????
Are you crazy fool!
Great list, but for the life of me, I don't understand why you place Mikkel Kessler at #10, while Joe Calzaghe doesn't even make the list. And where is Miguelito?Quote:
Originally Posted by JJS
Edit: btw, I just realized that this post is outdated by 4 months.
p4p list goes:
floyd at number 1
pac at number 2
anybody that gets the first two wrong is an idiot. That tells you not to read any further to their list if they get the first two wrong already ;D
The only p4p list that counts in my eyes is my own. If you want the definitive top 10 p4p then here it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Marvelous Rain
1. Mayweather
2. Pacquaio
3. Calzaghe
4. JM Marquez
5. Cotto
6. Hopkins
7. Vazquez
8. R Marquez
9. Wright
10 J Diaz
Just outside are Calderon, Pavlik, Mosely, Hatton, Kessler and Guzman imo.
Other people can give you their list but unless it agrees with mine it is wrong. 8)
isreal no where near top ten? and he pounded rafa and will pound him again in the trilogy. you guys suck!!!!!!! 8)
He's my number 7 Rain, I used his surname Vazquez ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Marvelous Rain
ooh i didn't even see your list when i posted that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Silly boy that list is the DEFINITIVE list Rains, anyone who disagrees is just plain wrong 8)Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Marvelous Rain
I disagree, your insane for putting juan diaz over Pavlik, Calderon, mosley,hatton, kessler and even guzman!!!!!!!! 8)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Heres mine:
1.Floyd jr.
2.Pacman
3.JM.Marquez
4.Calzagne
5.Pavlik
6.Vasquez
7.Bhop
8.R.Marquez
9.Cotto
10.Calderon
11.Wright.
12.Mosley
13.Hatton
14.Guzman
15.Kessler
16.W.Klitchsko
17.Mijares
18.Taylor
19.Williams
20.Donaire
Now that is the Definitive list cause Mr. Marvelous said so!!!!!! O0
Until...........I decide to update it again ;D
Stick to baking your flans Rains your good at that leave the boxing analysis to the hobbit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Marvelous Rain
But I hear you regarding Juan Diaz. To be honest there are four or five fighters vying for the tenth spot.
Pavlik will certainly get that spot, actually higher if he beats Taylor in a rematch. I just can't put someone in my top 10 p4p when they have never even made a single world title defense.
I went for Diaz becuase he's doing what a true champ should do and that's unify his division. Forcing people to quit on their stools is impressive too.
But Calderon could certainly be in contention for that spot too.
At the end of the day though, the lightweights right now are one of the most exciting divisions and Juan Diaz is the star of that division. So I put him in at 10.
I don't even have juan diaz at top 20, I don't buy into just becuase his becoming a star at a rising division doesn't put him in my top 10 not even in my top 20. I like his all out assualt but his very one demensional and I don't think he can beat elites that will give him more looks and won't just fall into his pace or his preferred fight. he also lack power which does not make him dangerous for all 12 rounds. Look at my top 20 and tell me if theres nobody in that list that could not outbox him or outwork him to sleep pound for pound.
Maybe you should stick to making poetry for the local kinder classes 8)