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IS OSCAR DELA HOYA THE SLUT IN BOXING
he has pretty much lost all of the fights in his career that meant the most, I think his one of those most dissapointing fighter. does well in the begginnings of fights but slacks off in the end lacking heart to finish big.
the most impressive fight of oscar is the 4th round tko of jcc, JCC is a great but he was clearly past it.
what I hate about boxing is it sometimes turns into a popularity contest. oscar is very popular but he is not a great fighter not at all. it sucks that guys like winky wants to get a fight with oscar just because of $$$$$$$$$. This is exactly whats wrong with boxing. lets pay to see great competitors, not popular boy band looking like guys like oscar. BOXING use to be a sport for real men, nowadays we have guys called pretty boy golden boy, sounds awfully homo if you ask me ;D
oscar can lose 10 in a row and fighters will still line up to bang him for $$$$$ come on fellas lets pay for real fights, lets see pavlik, cotto, guys that bring it and wins
I SINCERELY THINK FIGHTERS THAT MENTION $$$$$$ SHOULD BE FROWN APON, ITS BAD FOR THE SPORT TO OPENLY ACCEPT COMMENTS FROM FIGHTERS TALKING ABOUT CONTRACTS AND PURSES.
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Put yourself in Oscars shoes; if someone wanted to pay you eight figures win or lose would you take it?
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dude if i remember correctly (and i do) DLH was the one trying to make the fight with Mayweather, he was the one pushing the action and he finished pretty damn strong in the 12th (a round i had him winning), he has plenty of heart and IS a living GREAT, plus so much talk about him beating an old Chavez ::** although JCC wasn't at his best he was far from being shot, and also DLH walked in the CHALLENGER NOT THE CHAMPION against Chavez, don't forget that, plus he's taken on anyone, so how does that make him a pansey or whatever
Ruelas
Leija
Chavez
Camacho
Carr
Paez
Trinidad
Mosley
Whitaker
Campas
Vargas
Hopkins
Mayorga
Mayweather
i know there are more BIG names on there but i just don't feel like putting much more thought into this stupidity
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Re: IS OSCAR DELA HOYA THE SLUT IN BOXING
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
he has pretty much lost all of the fights in his career that meant the most, I think his one of those most dissapointing fighter. does well in the begginnings of fights but slacks off in the end lacking heart to finish big.
the most impressive fight of oscar is the 4th round tko of jcc, JCC is a great but he was clearly past it.
what I hate about boxing is it sometimes turns into a popularity contest. oscar is very popular but he is not a great fighter not at all. it sucks that guys like winky wants to get a fight with oscar just because of $$$$$$$$$. This is exactly whats wrong with boxing. lets pay to see great competitors, not popular boy band looking like guys like oscar. BOXING use to be a sport for real men, nowadays we have guys called pretty boy golden boy, sounds awfully homo if you ask me ;D
oscar can lose 10 in a row and fighters will still line up to bang him for $$$$$ come on fellas lets pay for real fights, lets see pavlik, cotto, guys that bring it and wins
I SINCERELY THINK FIGHTERS THAT MENTION $$$$$$ SHOULD BE FROWN APON, ITS BAD FOR THE SPORT TO OPENLY ACCEPT COMMENTS FROM FIGHTERS TALKING ABOUT CONTRACTS AND PURSES.
I think fighting Oscar is the easiest way to make it into the Hall of Fame, get Serious money, women, and HBO attention... all at the same time.
And YES, he does gas out in the end, and YES even I question his heart.
He's one of the most talented fighters of his era, if you look at what he's capable of, I always wonder that he could have accomplished more, yet he has always fallen short of his true place in history IMO. YES he has fought PLENTY of the best. Yet his resume of elite fighters he loses to in close matchups, just because he feels tired.... keeps growing.
I didn't buy Oscar Mayweather, so I'm not impressed by the Golden Boy's appeal as so many other fans are. I'm with you, more matchups that can lead to the most intersting twists and action.
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HE HE HE Its funny you say that cuz I always thought it was the fighters that wanted to fight him who were the sluts. He's just the horny rich guy who can't keep his hands away from the pu**y even though he knows he can't keep it up for the full show anymore.
It is those guys calling him out when they know he is no longer the top dog and his skills ar quite diminished and see him as a moderate risk/HUGE reward that are the sluts.
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well you're not saying much about Mayweather then, cause he only beat that faded, deminished skilled DLH by one round
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Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan
HE HE HE Its funny you say that cuz I always thought it was the fighters that wanted to fight him who were the sluts. He's just the horny rich guy who can't keep his hands away from the pu**y even though he knows he can't keep it up for the full show anymore.
It is those guys calling him out when they know he is no longer the top dog and his skills ar quite diminished and see him as a moderate risk/HUGE reward that are the sluts.
You sound creepy as hell. But I think your on to something. heh
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
dude if i remember correctly (and i do) DLH was the one trying to make the fight with Mayweather, he was the one pushing the action and he finished pretty damn strong in the 12th (a round i had him winning), he has plenty of heart and IS a living GREAT, plus so much talk about him beating an old Chavez ::** although JCC wasn't at his best he was far from being shot, and also DLH walked in the CHALLENGER NOT THE CHAMPION against Chavez, don't forget that, plus he's taken on anyone, so how does that make him a pansey or whatever
Ruelas
Leija
Chavez
Camacho
Carr
Paez
Trinidad
Mosley
Whitaker
Campas
Vargas
Hopkins
Mayorga
Mayweather
i know there are more BIG names on there but i just don't feel like putting much more thought into this stupidity
Great points! Aside from his loss to Hopkins (an all time great MW & someone too big for Oscar) he's never been blown out in any fight.
Yes, the record shows he lost twice to Shane & once to Tito. The record book says he's 0-3 in these fights but some argue he could be 2-1. Had close wins against Quartey & Pernell, maybe those make up for the "losses" to Shane & Tito. Point is, he fought a bunch of tough guys & was in exciting, close fights in all/most of them.
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Originally Posted by BlackRazor
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
dude if i remember correctly (and i do) DLH was the one trying to make the fight with Mayweather, he was the one pushing the action and he finished pretty damn strong in the 12th (a round i had him winning), he has plenty of heart and IS a living GREAT, plus so much talk about him beating an old Chavez ::** although JCC wasn't at his best he was far from being shot, and also DLH walked in the CHALLENGER NOT THE CHAMPION against Chavez, don't forget that, plus he's taken on anyone, so how does that make him a pansey or whatever
Ruelas
Leija
Chavez
Camacho
Carr
Paez
Trinidad
Mosley
Whitaker
Campas
Vargas
Hopkins
Mayorga
Mayweather
i know there are more BIG names on there but i just don't feel like putting much more thought into this stupidity
Great points! Aside from his loss to Hopkins (an all time great MW & someone too big for Oscar) he's never been blown out in any fight.
Yes, the record shows he lost twice to Shane & once to Tito. The record book says he's 0-3 in these fights but some argue he could be 2-1. Had close wins against Quartey & Pernell, maybe those make up for the "losses" to Shane & Tito. Point is, he fought a bunch of tough guys & was in exciting, close fights in all/most of them.
It is what it is.... name all the fighters you guys want. No matter how tough they sound, it doesn't matter because de la Hoya fell short all the time. I still feel that Oscar is better then even he thinks he is.
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Honestly I mean we all saw the fight between Oscar De La Hoya vs. Felix Trinidad. Oscar won it was just he danced off the last rounds which angered the judges to give it to Felix instead. The 2nd fight of Sugar Shane Mosley vs. Oscar De La Hoya. Look at the dam numbers lol Oscar clearly won ladies and gentleman no question about it. Shane Mosley looked real frustrated between some rounds and was trying to be the aggressor in the later rounds. Okay 2 really controversial losses. The loss against Bernard Hopkins okay Bernard was the real deal, I mean that man was just to much for him simply cuss Bernard Hopkins is simply the bigger, stronger guy. Just naturally. The loss against May weather well that was pretty much one sided cuss May weather’s speed and defense. Oscar De La Hoya would of knocked out Pretty boy but I mean it’s smart not to trade with De La Hoya. So I mean De La hoya’s losses seem real horrible but I mean his wins? Fernando Vargas? Ricardo Mayorga? Pernell Whitaker? Julio Cesar chaves twice? Ike Quartey? Hector Camacho? Jorge Paes? The list truly goes on and on!
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Originally Posted by The Boxing Assassin
Honestly I mean we all saw the fight between Oscar De La Hoya vs. Felix Trinidad. Oscar won it was just he danced off the last rounds which angered the judges to give it to Felix instead. The 2nd fight of Sugar Shane Mosley vs. Oscar De La Hoya. Look at the dam numbers lol Oscar clearly won ladies and gentleman no question about it. Shane Mosley looked real frustrated between some rounds and was trying to be the aggressor in the later rounds. Okay 2 really controversial losses. The loss against Bernard Hopkins okay Bernard was the real deal, I mean that man was just to much for him simply cuss Bernard Hopkins is simply the bigger, stronger guy. Just naturally. The loss against May weather well that was pretty much one sided cuss May weather’s speed and defense. Oscar De La Hoya would of knocked out Pretty boy but I mean it’s smart not to trade with De La Hoya. So I mean De La hoya’s losses seem real horrible but I mean his wins? Fernando Vargas? Ricardo Mayorga? Pernell Whitaker? Julio Cesar chaves twice? Ike Quartey? Hector Camacho? Jorge Paes? The list truly goes on and on!
Indeed, the way I see it, he's a great talent, but not a great figher.
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Hey we all have our opinions you know. lol It’s all god. I actually do think he is a great fighter, one of the best of my generation/ era. I’m only 16 so yeah not to much boxing knowledge in my head I guess you would say. Hey I think Oscar is a great fighter, but then again Oscar De La Hoya is my favorites fighter of all time since I saw Oscar De La Hoya vs. Felix Trinidad back in 1999.
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Originally Posted by The Boxing Assassin
Honestly I mean we all saw the fight between Oscar De La Hoya vs. Felix Trinidad. Oscar won it was just he danced off the last rounds which angered the judges to give it to Felix instead. The 2nd fight of Sugar Shane Mosley vs. Oscar De La Hoya. Look at the dam numbers lol Oscar clearly won ladies and gentleman no question about it. Shane Mosley looked real frustrated between some rounds and was trying to be the aggressor in the later rounds. Okay 2 really controversial losses. The loss against Bernard Hopkins okay Bernard was the real deal, I mean that man was just to much for him simply cuss Bernard Hopkins is simply the bigger, stronger guy. Just naturally. The loss against May weather well that was pretty much one sided cuss May weather’s speed and defense. Oscar De La Hoya would of knocked out Pretty boy but I mean it’s smart not to trade with De La Hoya. So I mean De La hoya’s losses seem real horrible but I mean his wins? Fernando Vargas? Ricardo Mayorga? Pernell Whitaker? Julio Cesar chaves twice? Ike Quartey? Hector Camacho? Jorge Paes? The list truly goes on and on!
Yea becacuse a judge can be angered at a performance and change theyr card as they like..
They just turned the pencil over and rubbed out what was there before and changed it ::**
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
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Originally Posted by The Boxing Assassin
Honestly I mean we all saw the fight between Oscar De La Hoya vs. Felix Trinidad. Oscar won it was just he danced off the last rounds which angered the judges to give it to Felix instead. The 2nd fight of Sugar Shane Mosley vs. Oscar De La Hoya. Look at the dam numbers lol Oscar clearly won ladies and gentleman no question about it. Shane Mosley looked real frustrated between some rounds and was trying to be the aggressor in the later rounds. Okay 2 really controversial losses. The loss against Bernard Hopkins okay Bernard was the real deal, I mean that man was just to much for him simply cuss Bernard Hopkins is simply the bigger, stronger guy. Just naturally. The loss against May weather well that was pretty much one sided cuss May weather’s speed and defense. Oscar De La Hoya would of knocked out Pretty boy but I mean it’s smart not to trade with De La Hoya. So I mean De La hoya’s losses seem real horrible but I mean his wins? Fernando Vargas? Ricardo Mayorga? Pernell Whitaker? Julio Cesar chaves twice? Ike Quartey? Hector Camacho? Jorge Paes? The list truly goes on and on!
Yea becacuse a judge can be angered at a performance and change theyr card as they like..
They just turned the pencil over and rubbed out what was there before and changed it ::**
That actually angers me a lot; they have no right to do that. If a fighter feels they won the fight, they can dance the last rounds. I mean I see why not, its kind of a lack of respect for the fans but I mean either way they won the fight.
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
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Originally Posted by The Boxing Assassin
Honestly I mean we all saw the fight between Oscar De La Hoya vs. Felix Trinidad. Oscar won it was just he danced off the last rounds which angered the judges to give it to Felix instead. The 2nd fight of Sugar Shane Mosley vs. Oscar De La Hoya. Look at the dam numbers lol Oscar clearly won ladies and gentleman no question about it. Shane Mosley looked real frustrated between some rounds and was trying to be the aggressor in the later rounds. Okay 2 really controversial losses. The loss against Bernard Hopkins okay Bernard was the real deal, I mean that man was just to much for him simply cuss Bernard Hopkins is simply the bigger, stronger guy. Just naturally. The loss against May weather well that was pretty much one sided cuss May weather’s speed and defense. Oscar De La Hoya would of knocked out Pretty boy but I mean it’s smart not to trade with De La Hoya. So I mean De La hoya’s losses seem real horrible but I mean his wins? Fernando Vargas? Ricardo Mayorga? Pernell Whitaker? Julio Cesar chaves twice? Ike Quartey? Hector Camacho? Jorge Paes? The list truly goes on and on!
Yea becacuse a judge can be angered at a performance and change theyr card as they like..
They just turned the pencil over and rubbed out what was there before and changed it ::**
yea like there's no controversy in one of the judges scoring the 12th for Oscar after giving all the early rounds to Tito, and realized he had to try and tighten up the cards, oh yea by the way Oscar didn't throw a single punch in the 12th
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
well you're not saying much about Mayweather then, cause he only beat that faded, deminished skilled DLH by one round
delahoya was the bigger man he was supposed to come forward..and one round means it was a golden boy production...truthfully it was 116-112 or 117-111..and body with sense could see that...even mayweather senior had to change his opinion after seeing it the second time...
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
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Originally Posted by The Boxing Assassin
Honestly I mean we all saw the fight between Oscar De La Hoya vs. Felix Trinidad. Oscar won it was just he danced off the last rounds which angered the judges to give it to Felix instead. The 2nd fight of Sugar Shane Mosley vs. Oscar De La Hoya. Look at the dam numbers lol Oscar clearly won ladies and gentleman no question about it. Shane Mosley looked real frustrated between some rounds and was trying to be the aggressor in the later rounds. Okay 2 really controversial losses. The loss against Bernard Hopkins okay Bernard was the real deal, I mean that man was just to much for him simply cuss Bernard Hopkins is simply the bigger, stronger guy. Just naturally. The loss against May weather well that was pretty much one sided cuss May weather’s speed and defense. Oscar De La Hoya would of knocked out Pretty boy but I mean it’s smart not to trade with De La Hoya. So I mean De La hoya’s losses seem real horrible but I mean his wins? Fernando Vargas? Ricardo Mayorga? Pernell Whitaker? Julio Cesar chaves twice? Ike Quartey? Hector Camacho? Jorge Paes? The list truly goes on and on!
Yea becacuse a judge can be angered at a performance and change theyr card as they like..
They just turned the pencil over and rubbed out what was there before and changed it ::**
yea like there's no controversy in one of the judges scoring the 12th for Oscar after giving all the early rounds to Tito, and realized he had to try and tighten up the cards, oh yea by the way Oscar didn't throw a single punch in the 12th
Ahh, and the age long debate continues. This is starting to rival the Leonard - Hagler debate. It would have been so much better for boxing if this fight would have just been scored a draw. Then nobody would complain and we could've had Tito - DLH 2. How great would that have been.
I am one of the few who belive Tito won the fight by a round. I have debated this so many times I won't bother doing it again now except to point out that biased comentating can misslead the viewers and that not one judge at ringside including Harold Ledderman saw DLH winning the fight. Yes, Jerry Roth's scorecard looked a little fishy. But, if you look at his career as a judge, he has always leaned more to the aggressor so it is not supprising.
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Oscar haters are always good for a laugh. When all is said and done...people are jealous of Oscar...plain and simple. Listen...no one...NO ONE...is perfect in this sport...there are no angels...Oscar included. BUT...name one boxer who wouldn't LOVE to be in Oscar's shoes?! The man is mega popular, extremely wealthy, and a fantastic boxer. What...you guys are going to hate on him for using his looks and business savvy to sell himself and create a successful promotional company?!!! God forbid...any other boxer who COULD do that...wouldn't. As far what he has done in the ring...win, lose, or draw...the man has a tremendous resume. He has NEVER embarrassed himself in the ring. Not to mention the enormous amount of positive publicity he has brought to the fight game. So some of you can call him names like "slut"...i just call you jealous haters.
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I thought ODH beat Quartey, Tito and Shane the second time...I thought he lost to Sturm, and I had the Pernell fight a draw...I had PBF winning 7 rounds to 5...If ODH had kept up using his jab I think he wins it but he didn't. His resume of fighters fought is right there with just about anyone over the last 10 years. Outside of not fightin KT I can't think of a big name that was in the same division as ODH that he didn't fight...and Oscar wasn't a Junior Welter for very long. At 135 he was an absolute monster....I don't know how you can watch the guy and not see an awesome talent. If you put the top 10 LW and WW's of all time in the ring I think Oscar would win some lose some, but I don't think he'd be completley outclassed by anyone...If Shane and Tito are considered "great" then I don't know how Oscar isn't.
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Besides what I said in my last post. I for one have great respect for Oscar. His record is just a product of the excelent quality of fighters he has faced. I wish more fighters had the guts to fight so many elite fighters.
I already gave my opinion on who the sluts were at the beginning of this thread.
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Oscar has always been elite and competitive at that level, so hes always been the guy to beat. any of theguys he fought were in their prime and win or lose hes always made a good showing so why would lose credibility and get "slut" status as a fighter?
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So why would you say that Oscar is not a great fighter, do you know anything about boxing. Let me guess, your a mayweather fan. I think that you need to start watching fights and not go by what you hear, and then you will know who is a great fighter and who is not. No offense i know this is just an opinion but keep the criticizing coming its fun to hear someone else's point of view.
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Hey bro's I just checked the ODH-PBF scorecard again and if judge Jerry Roth seen the last round 10-9 De la hoya which it CLEARLY was then the fight would've been a draw.
The two other judges seen it 10-9 to Oscar in the last round and one was even Chuck Giampa who scored it 116-112 Mayweather overall.
