When will there be one belt again

There are so many champions nowadays i am starting to find it hard to follow and every day i see a new champ but holding a belt seems not to mean much of any more. Hell if you dont have a belt you must not be a good fighter because if you were you be bound to get some sort of belt there the ibf ibo wbo wba wbc and couple more belts after that and seems there is always a problem with unifying the belts so i dont see when they are going to fix the problem with champions seems like it is ever going happen and it makes me sad i wish it go back to jsut having one belt or atleast back to one champion i even be happier if they acomplish that but i am not holding my breath on that one

Never.

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Originally Posted by Mr140

There are so many champions nowadays i am starting to find it hard to follow and every day i see a new champ but holding a belt seems not to mean much of any more. Hell if you dont have a belt you must not be a good fighter because if you were you be bound to get some sort of belt there the ibf ibo wbo wba wbc and couple more belts after that and seems there is always a problem with unifying the belts so i dont see when they are going to fix the problem with champions seems like it is ever going happen and it makes me sad i wish it go back to jsut having one belt or atleast back to one champion i even be happier if they acomplish that but i am not holding my breath on that one

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Virgil Hill said to me in an interview once..."If you hold a title in this sport there is a 50% chance your doing something wrong"......Ten seconds later he said...."I hate every sanctioning body there is..They have made more money then I have off my sanctioning fee's....The only reason I keep my title is the fact I am guarenteed the bigger purse..If it wasn't for that I would refuse to have one" ....That coming from a 3 or 4 time world champion so what does that say about the sanctioning bodies....

2 weeks ago Hopkins said in a press confrence " I love being the LHW Ring Champion. I don't have to pay sanctioning fees and I don't have to fight guys not worthy of a title shot..Plus it shows I am the true champion of the division"

One thing that pisses me off at the start of fights, why do they never anounce that The ring title is up for grabs, or still the ABC and RING ... champion!

its a shame more fighters don't renounce their belts and go for the ring...

The only prob with that belt is there are no forced fights, it does leave the option for a fighter to hand pick his fights... not saying they would, but they could...

Nope never. Boxing needs a governing body that is sanctioned by all countries boxing commissions abit like FIFA for Soccer.
It would take a miracle to happen.

well the things they can do i guess are the following

They need some rich guy to buy out the belts i agree with that

Then they need to have some soft of tournament for the belts

And they need to get ride of the belts that are not ibf and wbc and maybe keep the wba belt

And they need to atleast need to make the heavyweight unifyer if any thing

And those are all my thoughts want to say everything i can because i am going i love to hear eveyr ones thoughts on the subject just to hear what they think boxing should to fix teh problem

There already is: The Ring Champion! Although their policy has it's flaws which the magazine clearly admits it is the best alternative the the alphabet idiots!!!

You wouldn't need an international org..If the US had a federal boxing commision that would only allow one sanctioning body at US venues and recognize only one ranking system then whatever that body was would end up being recognized internationally simply b/c championship fights in the US is where the money is at. We really need a federal commission for a number of reasons
1. Make all state orgs fall under one body and use unified standards
2. Regulate the type of promotional and manager contracts a fighter can sign...IE no rights on future fights
3. Setup a better pension
4. Make a legit ranking system with meaningful mandatories
5. Get rid of shady sanctioning fees etc etc

it would make a world of difference.

Will never happen, even though the WBC lately seems to have the majority of the best champions. The main problem IMO is when a champion tries to unify with another champion one of them will get stripped of their title. It would help a little bit if you wouldn't get stripped of your title for unifying it.

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Originally Posted by Preme

One thing that pisses me off at the start of fights, why do they never anounce that The ring title is up for grabs, or still the ABC and RING ... champion!

its a shame more fighters don't renounce their belts and go for the ring...

The only prob with that belt is there are no forced fights, it does leave the option for a fighter to hand pick his fights... not saying they would, but they could...

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Because the Ring is just a boxing magazine and is not a real belt. Plus each fight is sanctioned by one of the four recognised belts and they sure arn't going to give any credibility to a rival. Can't remember who it was now but one boxer was stripped of his WBC title a fews years back because he came into the ring with his WBC and IBO belts on show and the WBC didn't recognise the IBO as a legitimate organisation.

Finally if the Ring did become a real belt it would just end up like all the others.

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Originally Posted by Preme

One thing that pisses me off at the start of fights, why do they never anounce that The ring title is up for grabs, or still the ABC and RING ... champion!

its a shame more fighters don't renounce their belts and go for the ring...

The only prob with that belt is there are no forced fights, it does leave the option for a fighter to hand pick his fights... not saying they would, but they could...

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Because the Ring is just a boxing magazine and is not a real belt. Plus each fight is sanctioned by one of the four recognised belts and they sure arn't going to give any credibility to a rival. Can't remember who it was now but one boxer was stripped of his WBC title a fews years back because he came into the ring with his WBC and IBO belts on show and the WBC didn't recognise the IBO as a legitimate organisation.

Finally if the Ring did become a real belt it would just end up like all the others.

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That's BS, the ring has been handing out ring belts forever! It is the only belt that the fighters don't have to pay any fees to have!!! The ring was the 1st to create ranking of fighters & IMO their championship belts are more real than the paper alphabet groups!

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by Preme

One thing that pisses me off at the start of fights, why do they never anounce that The ring title is up for grabs, or still the ABC and RING ... champion!

its a shame more fighters don't renounce their belts and go for the ring...

The only prob with that belt is there are no forced fights, it does leave the option for a fighter to hand pick his fights... not saying they would, but they could...

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Because the Ring is just a boxing magazine and is not a real belt. Plus each fight is sanctioned by one of the four recognised belts and they sure arn't going to give any credibility to a rival. Can't remember who it was now but one boxer was stripped of his WBC title a fews years back because he came into the ring with his WBC and IBO belts on show and the WBC didn't recognise the IBO as a legitimate organisation.

Finally if the Ring did become a real belt it would just end up like all the others.

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That's BS, the ring has been handing out ring belts forever! It is the only belt that the fighters don't have to pay any fees to have!!! The ring was the 1st to create ranking of fighters & IMO their championship belts are more real than the paper alphabet groups!

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Yes but they arn't an official organisation no matter how long they have been doing it. If the belt's became recognised as real titles then the Ring magazine would no longer be impartial. Keep them the way they are.

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Originally Posted by Galaxy.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by Preme

One thing that pisses me off at the start of fights, why do they never anounce that The ring title is up for grabs, or still the ABC and RING ... champion!

its a shame more fighters don't renounce their belts and go for the ring...

The only prob with that belt is there are no forced fights, it does leave the option for a fighter to hand pick his fights... not saying they would, but they could...

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Because the Ring is just a boxing magazine and is not a real belt. Plus each fight is sanctioned by one of the four recognised belts and they sure arn't going to give any credibility to a rival. Can't remember who it was now but one boxer was stripped of his WBC title a fews years back because he came into the ring with his WBC and IBO belts on show and the WBC didn't recognise the IBO as a legitimate organisation.

Finally if the Ring did become a real belt it would just end up like all the others.

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That's BS, the ring has been handing out ring belts forever! It is the only belt that the fighters don't have to pay any fees to have!!! The ring was the 1st to create ranking of fighters & IMO their championship belts are more real than the paper alphabet groups!

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Yes but they arn't an official organisation no matter how long they have been doing it. If the belt's became recognised as real titles then the Ring magazine would no longer be impartial. Keep them the way they are.

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I agree that that it should be kept the way it is but the Ring belt should be recognized more so because of the reason that they receive no financial gain. They change nothing to look at their web site ratings so essentially do things for the betterment of the game!

The problem with the organizations is anyone with enough money can start their own one. I my eyes theres nothing "official" about these organizations at all!!!

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Originally Posted by Preme

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Agreed! Never.
It would be nice if there was only one.

Well one solution would be a federal commission that had its own belt but used the Ring rankings...that way they have their own sanctions, but with a objective impartial ranking system...much like American College Football.

Never im afraid, it would be nice though.

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Originally Posted by Galaxy.

There already is: The Ring Champion! Although their policy has it's flaws which the magazine clearly admits it is the best alternative the the alphabet idiots!!!

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Exactly right :coolclick: