Re: My new top 5 P4p list
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
#1 Bernard "the executioner" Hopkins
#2 Floyd " Pretty Boy" Mayweather
#3 Manny " The Destroyer " Pacquaio
#4 Ronald "Winky" Wright
#5 Jermain "Bad Intention" Taylor
Before I get s.d and all let me explain please ;D
I truely believe Bernard has earn his spot back to the top. I think he just out grown the middleweight and it was time for him to get beaten at a weight he suffered in. Now that he has move up I think he has perserve his masterful style and maintain his boxing wisdom giving him his rightful place back to the top. He threw of the Wizard Winky Wright and beat him just a week ago. And before that he dominated the king of the lightheavyweights. That is far better than any p4pders past two fights.
I have floyd number 2 as long as he stays undefeated Pac winky or anyone else cant surpass him because of most of us believe so ,but once he gets that first lost, he'll drop atleast to 5th place. I doubt that happening floyd is great at handpicking.
I got Pacman third, still so dominant and keeps on getting better. You never know how improve he'll be in every next fight he has and he has already dominated the likes of Mabman and El Terrible.
I got to keep Winky near the top, he lost to the great EXECUTIONER but it was a close fight, bernards tactics just throws off everybody even this legendary WIZARD WINKY WRIGHT.
Jermain "Bad Intention" Taylor, he may not be impressive of late, but I still believe J.T has that unique winner destiny rarely any fighter have. It doesn't seem like he has gotten better with stewart as his trainer but I always thought that J.T didn't need stewart J.T was already on track to be great.Now that J.T is without Stewart again, I think J.T can now be J.T.The J.T that took bernard hopkins Kingdom in the middleweights.
I gotta mention JMM RAFA WLADY AND COTTO those guys are top P4Pders too, its just hard to fit all of them in a list THEY are all GREAT.
When did Taylor leave Steward? Did I just miss that or something?
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ouma ??? that was quick buddy, but i don't think you post correctly ;D
Re: My new top 5 P4p list
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
#1 Bernard "the executioner" Hopkins
#2 Floyd " Pretty Boy" Mayweather
#3 Manny " The Destroyer " Pacquaio
#4 Ronald "Winky" Wright
#5 Jermain "Bad Intention" Taylor
Before I get s.d and all let me explain please ;D
I truely believe Bernard has earn his spot back to the top. I think he just out grown the middleweight and it was time for him to get beaten at a weight he suffered in. Now that he has move up I think he has perserve his masterful style and maintain his boxing wisdom giving him his rightful place back to the top. He threw of the Wizard Winky Wright and beat him just a week ago. And before that he dominated the king of the lightheavyweights. That is far better than any p4pders past two fights.
I have floyd number 2 as long as he stays undefeated Pac winky or anyone else cant surpass him because of most of us believe so ,but once he gets that first lost, he'll drop atleast to 5th place. I doubt that happening floyd is great at handpicking.
I got Pacman third, still so dominant and keeps on getting better. You never know how improve he'll be in every next fight he has and he has already dominated the likes of Mabman and El Terrible.
I got to keep Winky near the top, he lost to the great EXECUTIONER but it was a close fight, bernards tactics just throws off everybody even this legendary WIZARD WINKY WRIGHT.
Jermain "Bad Intention" Taylor, he may not be impressive of late, but I still believe J.T has that unique winner destiny rarely any fighter have. It doesn't seem like he has gotten better with stewart as his trainer but I always thought that J.T didn't need stewart J.T was already on track to be great.Now that J.T is without Stewart again, I think J.T can now be J.T.The J.T that took bernard hopkins Kingdom in the middleweights.
I gotta mention JMM RAFA WLADY AND COTTO those guys are top P4Pders too, its just hard to fit all of them in a list THEY are all GREAT.
When did Taylor leave Steward? Did I just miss that or something?
Ohh I heard they split up a while ago.
Re: My new top 5 P4p list
Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rain
#1 Bernard "the executioner" Hopkins
#2 Floyd " Pretty Boy" Mayweather
#3 Manny " The Destroyer " Pacquiao
#4 Ronald "Winky" Wright
#5 Jermain "Bad Intention" Taylor
I got...
#1 Floyd " Pretty Boy" Mayweather
#2 Manny " The Destroyer " Pacquiao
#3 Rafael Marquez
#4 Jermain "Bad Intention" Taylor
#5 Juan Manuel Marquez
Re: My new top 5 P4p list
Taylor and Steward are still together.
Re: My new top 5 P4p list
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
Taylor and Steward are still together.
That's what I was thinking, I didn't know how I would have missed that.
Re: My new top 5 P4p list
when i look at p4p status, i have a tendency to go back farther than a guys last 2 fights. seeing as how hopkins lost 2 of his last 4, my list would go like this..................
1.) Floyd Mayweather Jr. (undefeated world champion in 5 different weight classes = p4p supremecy, imo)
2.) Manny Pacquio (pac loses to jmm for sure, probably valero and guzman as well. he holds this spot until he fights the guys i previously mentioned)
3.) Jermain Taylor (beat b-hop twice, was robbed of a victory over wright settling for a draw)
4.) Juan Manuel Marquez (beat barerra convincingly, needs to have a mega fight with pac)
5.) Bernard Hopkins (lost 2 of his last 4, but did jump 2 divisions and beat tarver easily so ill give him some credit for that)
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1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Bernard Hopkins
4. Rafael Marquez
5. Juan Manuel Marquez
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
Taylor and Steward are still together.
well that sukx :P
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I don't see how Hopkins is in the top 5 p4p after loosing 2 of his last 4 fights. Is there anyone else in the top 5 p4p who has done this? (maybe even ever?)
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Hopkins beat Tarver and Winky Wright and was robbed against Taylor. He is definitly top 3 P4P IMO
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Originally Posted by Sugar_Shaw
Hopkins beat Tarver and Winky Wright and was robbed against Taylor. He is definitly top 3 P4P IMO
I don't see how that's such and achievement tbh. Beating an overrated tarver who's best fight was beating an over the hill Jones, loosing to an overrated Taylor twice (albeit controversially) and beating an old blown up middleweight. Is there something im am missing? because i am just not seeing it.
Re: My new top 5 P4p list
1) PBF
2) Hatton
3) Hopkins
4) Pacquioa
5) Taylor
Lets be honest though, Hopkins and Taylor are the most boring boxers in the world, PBF isn't exactly entertainment on the edge of your seat either
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PBF
PAC
B-Hop
Wright
4 that stand out!!!
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Originally Posted by danchar123
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Originally Posted by Sugar_Shaw
Hopkins beat Tarver and Winky Wright and was robbed against Taylor. He is definitly top 3 P4P IMO
I don't see how that's such and achievement tbh. Beating an overrated tarver who's best fight was beating an over the hill Jones, loosing to an overrated Taylor twice (albeit controversially) and beating an old blown up middleweight. Is there something im am missing? because i am just not seeing it.
But he jumped up 2 weight divsions and beat the champ, plus, HE is a blown up middleweight too
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1) PBF
2) Paquiao
3) R Marquez
4) Hopkins
5) Hatton
PERFECT ;)
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Originally Posted by Sugar_Shaw
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Originally Posted by danchar123
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Originally Posted by Sugar_Shaw
Hopkins beat Tarver and Winky Wright and was robbed against Taylor. He is definitly top 3 P4P IMO
I don't see how that's such and achievement tbh. Beating an overrated tarver who's best fight was beating an over the hill Jones, loosing to an overrated Taylor twice (albeit controversially) and beating an old blown up middleweight. Is there something im am missing? because i am just not seeing it.
But he jumped up 2 weight divsions and beat the champ, plus,
HE is a blown up middleweight too
Im sorry but I am convinced that if these events happened to anyone else they would not be rated in the top 10 P4P. IMO Hopkins is currently living off his reputation (his younger days) not the quality of his recent fights.
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I thought the Winky-Hopkins fight was a draw, so I have it:
1. Mayweather
2. Pacquiao
3. Winky (dropping from 2nd to 3rd)
4. Rafael Marquez
5. Juan Manuel Marquez
6. Taylor
7. Hopkins
8. Calzaghe
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I dont get why people rate Winky so high.
Winkys last 4 are losing to hopkins beating a old Ike Quartey a draw against JT(could have went either way I guess) and beating a B-class fighter in Sam Soliman. why rate him so high for that ???im not impressed.
Hopkins last 4 are beating Winky, beating stinky Tarver (had to jump up in weight though and this is p4p) and 2 losses to JT which could have also been called a draw or wins for hopkins.
maybe you guys see something I don't but looking at there last 4 I think Hopkins deserves to be higher.
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My top 10
1. Floyd Mayweather Jnr
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Rafael Marquez
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Juan Manuel Marquez
6. Marco Antonio Barrera
7. Ricky Hatton
8. Joe Calzaghe
9. Joel Casamayor
10. Joan Guzman
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On accomplishments only I'd definitely have Winky and Hopkins in the top five.
Honestly though I'm not sure at this point there among the top five fighters in the world. Winky actually seems to be slowing down more than Hop which is a bit odd. I guess I could be reading too much into him being so sluggish at 170, but he seemed to be slowing down even in the Quartey fight.
Re: My new top 5 P4p list
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
My top 10
1. Floyd Mayweather Jnr
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Rafael Marquez
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Juan Manuel Marquez
6. Marco Antonio Barrera
7. Ricky Hatton
8. Joe Calzaghe
9. Joel Casamayor
10. Joan Guzman
Barrera should already be out of the p4p.where's cotto in this list?
