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Let us get this right about PBF
Before this fight happens, assuming it does, let us all agree that just because PBF has semi-retired himself IT DOESN'T MEAN HATTON GETS NO CREDIT IF HE WINS!!!
PBF is on top of his game and despite me being a HUGE Hatton fan I think PBF is a 60/40 favorite in my eyes to win this fight.
However, regardless how Floyd looks on the night I don't want anyone giving it "but Floyd came back from retirement, Hatton fought a washed up Mayweather, etc"
Can we all agree on this much?
Come on Ricky smash his body so fucking hard he wished he was lieing in ABC ward!! (in reference to his disrespectful comments about how all other fighters are like "A, B, C, 1, 2, 3)
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Re: Let us get this right about PBF
Don't think anyone ever took any notice of Floyds retirement.
If Hatton wins he cheated. Start there.
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Re: Let us get this right about PBF
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Don't think anyone ever took any notice of Floyds retirement.
If Hatton wins he cheated. Start there.
It'll be "the ref let Hatton hold and punch in close" etc.... But at the same time why should the ref pull them apart and play into Floyds hands!? If Hatton can take it coming in close let him stay there until Floyd can use his skills to move away again!
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Re: Let us get this right about PBF
Hatton's gonna hold and PBF is gonna use his elbow strike.
Did anyone think that Floyd actually retired?
No excuses, winner gets all the credit.............
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Originally Posted by killersheep
Hatton's gonna hold and PBF is gonna use his elbow strike.
Did anyone think that Floyd actually retired?
No excuses, winner gets all the credit.............
Agreed, winner gets all the credit. It's a tough fight for both. Floyd will have to work for every round.
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Re: Let us get this right about PBF
absolutly cc for the thread!!!!!!!!!!!
none of this Hatton was holding/wrestling crap
pbf is p4p so should be able to adapt to fit the style of Hatton if he cant he loses (and i cheer!!!!)
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Re: Let us get this right about PBF
....all this really doesn't matter, hatton will not beat floyd. Most hatton fans are even in agreement about that, most of what i hear is people giving reasons why this will be a decent fight not giving him any chance to win and i think they are right. Mayweather is far from needing excuses and hatton is far from being a threat to him which is why he is so eager to sign this fight.
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Mayweather is 30, far from washed up. If Hatton beats him he deserves tonnes of credit.
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On the flipside, what will the Hatton fans excuses be? The ref split the fighters up too quickly? Floyd elbowed? Judging was rigged? Ricky was weight drained? Floyd just run the whole night? Ricky was past his prime?????
Also will Floyd get any respect for beating Hatton? I think if he does all the haters will say, "yeah he beat Ricky, but he was overrated, so until he beats Williams, cotto, mosely, he has proved nothing.....
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Re: Let us get this right about PBF
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Originally Posted by nonito (formerly eagle)
On the flipside, what will the Hatton fans excuses be? The ref split the fighters up too quickly? Floyd elbowed? Judging was rigged? Ricky was weight drained? Floyd just run the whole night? Ricky was past his prime?????
Also will Floyd get any respect for beating Hatton? I think if he does all the haters will say, "yeah he beat Ricky, but he was overrated, so until he beats Williams, cotto, mosely, he has proved nothing.....
I think it'll be the lame ass Hatton ain't comfortable at 147 excuse
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Re: Let us get this right about PBF
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Originally Posted by nonito (formerly eagle)
On the flipside, what will the Hatton fans excuses be? The ref split the fighters up too quickly? Floyd elbowed? Judging was rigged? Ricky was weight drained? Floyd just run the whole night? Ricky was past his prime?????
Also will Floyd get any respect for beating Hatton? I think if he does all the haters will say, "yeah he beat Ricky, but he was overrated, so until he beats Williams, cotto, mosely, he has proved nothing.....
I think it'll be the lame a** Hatton ain't comfortable at 147 excuse
Forgot to put that one in. Can here it now. Ricky was beat 108-120 but at 140 he would have ko'd PBF in 3.
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Re: Let us get this right about PBF
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by nonito (formerly eagle)
On the flipside, what will the Hatton fans excuses be? The ref split the fighters up too quickly? Floyd elbowed? Judging was rigged? Ricky was weight drained? Floyd just run the whole night? Ricky was past his prime?????
Also will Floyd get any respect for beating Hatton? I think if he does all the haters will say, "yeah he beat Ricky, but he was overrated, so until he beats Williams, cotto, mosely, he has proved nothing.....
I think it'll be the lame a** Hatton ain't comfortable at 147 excuse
Forgot to put that one in. Can here it now. Ricky was beat 108-120 but at 140 he would have ko'd PBF in 3.
At 140 I think Hatton gets stopped in 2
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Re: Let us get this right about PBF
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Originally Posted by Fightman
Before this fight happens, assuming it does, let us all agree that just because PBF has semi-retired himself IT DOESN'T MEAN HATTON GETS NO CREDIT IF HE WINS!!!
PBF is on top of his game and despite me being a HUGE Hatton fan I think PBF is a 60/40 favorite in my eyes to win this fight.
However, regardless how Floyd looks on the night I don't want anyone giving it "but Floyd came back from retirement, Hatton fought a washed up Mayweather, etc"
Can we all agree on this much?
Come on Ricky smash his body so fucking hard he wished he was lieing in ABC ward!! (in reference to his disrespectful comments about how all other fighters are like "A, B, C, 1, 2, 3)
thanks for clearing that up
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Don't think anyone ever took any notice of Floyds retirement.
If Hatton wins he cheated. Start there.
i never condsider PBF retire for one second.
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Re: Let us get this right about PBF
1. floyd never really retired amean how long did it last like 2 months?, before he started talking of hatton, so no he wasnt really ever retired
2. if hatton gets even close to beating him ill giv him his props
3. no one but shane can giv floyd a more competive fight than delahoya
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Re: Let us get this right about PBF
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Originally Posted by Fightman
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Don't think anyone ever took any notice of Floyds retirement.
If Hatton wins he cheated. Start there.
It'll be "the ref let Hatton hold and punch in close" etc.... But at the same time why should the ref pull them apart and play into Floyds hands!? If Hatton can take it coming in close let him stay there until Floyd can use his skills to move away again!
Why should ref not let him do that? Because your not allowed to hold and punch. Its not playing into PBF's hands its following the rules. I think Mayweather can beat Hatton on the inside or on the outside if Hatton doesn't hit in the clinch.
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Re: Let us get this right about PBF
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Originally Posted by nonito (formerly eagle)
On the flipside, what will the Hatton fans excuses be? The ref split the fighters up too quickly? Floyd elbowed? Judging was rigged? Ricky was weight drained? Floyd just run the whole night? Ricky was past his prime?????
Also will Floyd get any respect for beating Hatton? I think if he does all the haters will say, "yeah he beat Ricky, but he was overrated, so until he beats Williams, cotto, mosely, he has proved nothing.....
Im a huge Hatton fan
I will not give excuses if Hatton loses he choseand wanted this fight
and its not the end of his career if he loses against PBF
this is a bigger loss for PBF that it is for Hatton
he wont be weight drained
and if he cant hack it at a bigger weight then fine lesson learnt and lesson given by p4p best!!
there is no dissrespect at that
Ricky is not past his prime
and that was the whole point of this thread werent it????
to say come on lad's /lasses who eva wins,who eva loses no excuses
many Hatton fans wont complain even if he does lose
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Re: Let us get this right about PBF
Forget arguing about what the excuses for losing are gonna be, What an excellent fight we have here, this is the fight we all wanted and now look like we are gonna get.
To me its simple if Hatton beats Floyd then hats of to him he is the new #1 P4P boxer on the planet! If Mayweather wins then it just cements what already know the guy is one of the best boxers of the last 20 years and probably the best in the business at the moment.
Personally I would love to see Ricky crack Floyd's rib cage like Castillo! (however tricky that maybe!!), but me like everyone else is gonna have to wait until the end of the year to find out!
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Re: Let us get this right about PBF
PBF did not retire. To me it seems to be a ploy, I can hear him saying - "well if you want me to come out of 'retirement' it's gonna cost big $$$. And if I fight Hatton, Eddie Cotton has to be the ref."
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Re: Let us get this right about PBF
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Originally Posted by Fightman
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Don't think anyone ever took any notice of Floyds retirement.
If Hatton wins he cheated. Start there.
It'll be "the ref let Hatton hold and punch in close" etc.... But at the same time why should the ref pull them apart and play into Floyds hands!? If Hatton can take it coming in close let him stay there until Floyd can use his skills to move away again!
Dude well he shouldnt let him hold coz this aint wrestling, its boxing. Boxing is you know where you punch, not where you hold and try to throw the other guy around. Wrestling and in-fighting are two different things mate ;) By the way one you should of covered is, floyd is weight drained ;)
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I agree PPF will get the credit when he beats Hatton. ;D
Really I would love to see PPF down just once ,I would love to see what kind of heart he has.
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Re: Let us get this right about PBF
Nobody's gonna use the PBF is washed up excuse, that's even dumber than Wlad's "I was drugged".
If Hatton wins, like people say, it will be because he's a dirty fighter. That will be the excuse. At least it won't be in Britain. Then if anything happened, it would be Hatton fighting dirty and getting away with it because of a British ref/crowd. Not like he needs to be in Britain to get away with wrestling, where did Ruiz fight most of the time?
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Nobody's gonna use the PBF is washed up excuse, that's even dumber than Wlad's "I was drugged".
If Hatton wins, like people say, it will be because he's a dirty fighter. That will be the excuse. At least it won't be in Britain. Then if anything happened, it would be Hatton fighting dirty and getting away with it because of a British ref/crowd. Not like he needs to be in Britain to get away with wrestling, where did Ruiz fight most of the time?
If Hatton wins and anybody says its because of the "retirement" then that person is positively insane. Everyone knows that Floyd didnt retire. If he had retired he wouldnt be planning a fight within months of having his last one.
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Re: Let us get this right about PBF
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Originally Posted by nonito (formerly eagle)
On the flipside, what will the Hatton fans excuses be? The ref split the fighters up too quickly? Floyd elbowed? Judging was rigged? Ricky was weight drained? Floyd just run the whole night? Ricky was past his prime?????
Also will Floyd get any respect for beating Hatton? I think if he does all the haters will say, "yeah he beat Ricky, but he was overrated, so until he beats Williams, cotto, mosely, he has proved nothing.....
I think it'll be the lame ass Hatton ain't comfortable at 147 excuse
Yes, it will be that combined with "well, yeah Floyd won, but I don't give him any credit for it because he said he was going to rip Ricky's head off but instead he just won every round on points."
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Re: Let us get this right about PBF
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by nonito (formerly eagle)
On the flipside, what will the Hatton fans excuses be? The ref split the fighters up too quickly? Floyd elbowed? Judging was rigged? Ricky was weight drained? Floyd just run the whole night? Ricky was past his prime?????
Also will Floyd get any respect for beating Hatton? I think if he does all the haters will say, "yeah he beat Ricky, but he was overrated, so until he beats Williams, cotto, mosely, he has proved nothing.....
I think it'll be the lame a** Hatton ain't comfortable at 147 excuse
Yes, it will be that combined with "well, yeah Floyd won, but I don't give him any credit for it because he said he was going to rip Ricky's head off but instead he just won every round on points."
This is a quality fight between two excellent fighters. End of. Why all the nonsensical talk about excuses anyways?
If a fighter loses convincingly then there can be no excuses.
As for this - "well, yeah Floyd won, but I don't give him any credit for it because he said he was going to rip Ricky's head off but instead he just won every round on points." I do hope you are trying to be ironic here ::**
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Originally Posted by nonito (formerly eagle)
On the flipside, what will the Hatton fans excuses be? The ref split the fighters up too quickly? Floyd elbowed? Judging was rigged? Ricky was weight drained? Floyd just run the whole night? Ricky was past his prime?????
Also will Floyd get any respect for beating Hatton? I think if he does all the haters will say, "yeah he beat Ricky, but he was overrated, so until he beats Williams, cotto, mosely, he has proved nothing.....
I think it'll be the lame a** Hatton ain't comfortable at 147 excuse
Yes, it will be that combined with "well, yeah Floyd won, but I don't give him any credit for it because he said he was going to rip Ricky's head off but instead he just won every round on points."
This is a quality fight between two excellent fighters. End of. Why all the nonsensical talk about excuses anyways?
If a fighter loses convincingly then there can be no excuses.
As for this - "well, yeah Floyd won, but I don't give him any credit for it because he said he was going to rip Ricky's head off but instead he just won every round on points." I do hope you are trying to be ironic here ::**
Come on man you've been on here long enough to know better than that............
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Re: Let us get this right about PBF
Lets take this fight in reference to the Hatton Callazo fight, Callazo being the slick fighter like PBF, Hatton was lucky to get the decision. Bring in PBF, PBF is a much better boxer than Callazo and is like lighting compared to Callazo. I think PBF will rip Hatton to shreds and stop him. I'm a Hatton fan almost as much as I like PBF, But PBF is to much for Hatton. Mayweather Hatton http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bGCII9AW5Go
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Re: Let us get this right about PBF
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Originally Posted by killersheep
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by nonito (formerly eagle)
On the flipside, what will the Hatton fans excuses be? The ref split the fighters up too quickly? Floyd elbowed? Judging was rigged? Ricky was weight drained? Floyd just run the whole night? Ricky was past his prime?????
Also will Floyd get any respect for beating Hatton? I think if he does all the haters will say, "yeah he beat Ricky, but he was overrated, so until he beats Williams, cotto, mosely, he has proved nothing.....
I think it'll be the lame a** Hatton ain't comfortable at 147 excuse
Yes, it will be that combined with "well, yeah Floyd won, but I don't give him any credit for it because he said he was going to rip Ricky's head off but instead he just won every round on points."
This is a quality fight between two excellent fighters. End of. Why all the nonsensical talk about excuses anyways?
If a fighter loses convincingly then there can be no excuses.
As for this - "well, yeah Floyd won, but I don't give him any credit for it because he said he was going to rip Ricky's head off but instead he just won every round on points." I do hope you are trying to be ironic here ::**
Come on man you've been on here long enough to know better than that............
What are you highlighting my sentence in reference to?
I stand by my statement
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Re: Let us get this right about PBF
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Originally Posted by nonito (formerly eagle)
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Originally Posted by nonito (formerly eagle)
On the flipside, what will the Hatton fans excuses be? The ref split the fighters up too quickly? Floyd elbowed? Judging was rigged? Ricky was weight drained? Floyd just run the whole night? Ricky was past his prime?????
Also will Floyd get any respect for beating Hatton? I think if he does all the haters will say, "yeah he beat Ricky, but he was overrated, so until he beats Williams, cotto, mosely, he has proved nothing.....
I think it'll be the lame a** Hatton ain't comfortable at 147 excuse
Forgot to put that one in. Can here it now. Ricky was beat 108-120 but at 140 he would have ko'd PBF in 3.
At 140 I think Hatton gets stopped in 2
I do feel sorry for you.
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On the flipside, what will the Hatton fans excuses be? The ref split the fighters up too quickly? Floyd elbowed? Judging was rigged? Ricky was weight drained? Floyd just run the whole night? Ricky was past his prime?????
Also will Floyd get any respect for beating Hatton? I think if he does all the haters will say, "yeah he beat Ricky, but he was overrated, so until he beats Williams, cotto, mosely, he has proved nothing.....
I think it'll be the lame a** Hatton ain't comfortable at 147 excuse
Forgot to put that one in. Can here it now. Ricky was beat 108-120 but at 140 he would have ko'd PBF in 3.
At 140 I think Hatton gets stopped in 2
I do feel sorry for you.
There are some idiots out there. Did I say some!!! :o
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As for this - "well, yeah Floyd won, but I don't give him any credit for it because he said he was going to rip Ricky's head off but instead he just won every round on points." I do hope you are trying to be ironic here ::**
I'm not sure what you mean by ironic in this context. This was the exact complaint/excuse most raised by Oscar supporters after Floyd won that fight.
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1. floyd never really retired amean how long did it last like 2 months?, before he started talking of hatton, so no he wasnt really ever retired
2. if hatton gets even close to beating him ill giv him his props
3. no one but shane can giv floyd a more competive fight than delahoya
i really do mean that
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As for this - "well, yeah Floyd won, but I don't give him any credit for it because he said he was going to rip Ricky's head off but instead he just won every round on points." I do hope you are trying to be ironic here ::**
I'm not sure what you mean by ironic in this context. This was the exact complaint/excuse most raised by Oscar supporters after Floyd won that fight.
I thought that the main complaint raised was that Oscar landed the heavier punches and showed the more aggression?
Anyhow, Mayweather always says he's going in there to fight and scrap and KO his opponent, but mostly he does look to box his opponent, which he is no doubt sensational at.
Most of the talking is usually the same old drivel to be tuned out anyway, the only thing that matters is the hand that is raised in the ring.
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As for this - "well, yeah Floyd won, but I don't give him any credit for it because he said he was going to rip Ricky's head off but instead he just won every round on points." I do hope you are trying to be ironic here ::**
I'm not sure what you mean by ironic in this context. This was the exact complaint/excuse most raised by Oscar supporters after Floyd won that fight.
I thought that the main complaint raised was that Oscar landed the heavier punches and showed the more aggression?
Anyhow, Mayweather always says he's going in there to fight and scrap and KO his opponent, but mostly he does look to box his opponent, which he is no doubt sensational at.
Most of the talking is usually the same old drivel to be tuned out anyway, the only thing that matters is the hand that is raised in the ring.
I don't know, I didn't see Oscar land much of anything in that fight. But I think people complained at least as much that Floyd didn't make it as much of an action fight as they would have liked after saying he'd knock Oscar out.
But I agree with you that the only thing that matters is the result.
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Besides, what does it matter what any of us say about it anyway?
Maybe we take ourselves too seriously.
I stated in another thread that both PBF and Ricky are at the top of their game, so it won't be possible to argue down the W by saying one isn't what he once was. You _might_ make that argument (though others might disagree) regarding Castillo against Hatton ... it won't be possible with this fight even to suggest such a thing.
Whoever wins has a nice shiny W and detractors be damned.
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Originally Posted by Fightman
Before this fight happens, assuming it does, let us all agree that just because PBF has semi-retired himself IT DOESN'T MEAN HATTON GETS NO CREDIT IF HE WINS!!!
PBF is on top of his game and despite me being a HUGE Hatton fan I think PBF is a 60/40 favorite in my eyes to win this fight.
However, regardless how Floyd looks on the night I don't want anyone giving it "but Floyd came back from retirement, Hatton fought a washed up Mayweather, etc"
Can we all agree on this much?
Come on Ricky smash his body so F****** hard he wished he was lieing in ABC ward!! (in reference to his disrespectful comments about how all other fighters are like "A, B, C, 1, 2, 3)
Everyone seems to retire after a big fight. Many fight within a year.
Publicity.
Part of his promotion tactics of making all the fans think that this may be the last time to see him in action.
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i think hatton moving up to 147 will screw him, like it did against collazo, HOWEVER if hatton wants to move up to 147 to fight Floyd then it cannot be an excuse.
i am a hatton fan primarily but also a pbf fan. i hope hatton smashes pbf to pieces and knocks him out, then we get a rematch and maybe a trilogy to end both careers, floyd will show he can come back after a loss, he'd prob win 2 of trilogy so he gets recognition as the best and hatton shows that he isn't a fluke like so many people seem to think. we get some great boxing and it all works out.
i doubt that will happen but we live in hope.
Contrary to most pbf fans I don't think he'll knock hatton out, hatton prepares too well and is way too psyched up for hard fights, i think pbf wins on points.
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i think hatton moving up to 147 will screw him, like it did against collazo, HOWEVER if hatton wants to move up to 147 to fight Floyd then it cannot be an excuse.
i am a hatton fan primarily but also a pbf fan. i hope hatton smashes pbf to pieces and knocks him out, then we get a rematch and maybe a trilogy to end both careers, floyd will show he can come back after a loss, he'd prob win 2 of trilogy so he gets recognition as the best and hatton shows that he isn't a fluke like so many people seem to think. we get some great boxing and it all works out.
i doubt that will happen but we live in hope.
Contrary to most pbf fans I don't think he'll knock hatton out, hatton prepares too well and is way too psyched up for hard fights, i think pbf wins on points.
Personally, unless Mayweather comes in to the fight way too complacently, I think his movement is too good to let Hatton get inside and smash him up. However, if it is a good fight then by all means more should be arranged, they're two of the highest profile names in the business, but all I hope is they can providethe entertainment to back it up.
I'm with you on Floyd by wide points decision.
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Yeah I'm with ya Super...also it dont matter how hard ya train given the likelihood that your opponent trains as hard, then it comes down to styles and ability, :dancer:
And thats where I feel Floyd's gonna win it, unique in his ability and a very awkward style that he fights very comfy with, he's also used to fighters coming to him or having to fight off the back foot, and even tho Rick is no slouch as a come forward fighter if ya cant hit it often enough,ya cant beat it,
It will be interesting to see who refs the fight...if its Micky Vann can I change my mind lol :beerchug:
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Yeah I'm with ya Super...also it dont matter how hard ya train given the likelihood that your opponent trains as hard, then it comes down to styles and ability, :dancer:
And thats where I feel Floyd's gonna win it, unique in his ability and a very awkward style that he fights very comfy with, he's also used to fighters coming to him or having to fight off the back foot, and even tho Rick is no slouch as a come forward fighter if ya cant hit it often enough,ya cant beat it,
It will be interesting to see who refs the fight...if its Micky Vann can I change my mind lol :beerchug:
Him or Dave Paris is the ref im getting down the bookies with a big bank loan ;D
