Great fighters who had a little bit of everything.

I am starting to notice a lot of the guys who didn't have the greatest speed, power, but they have enough of everything to be as good or considered better than the better athletes of their generation.

Hagler, Duran, Holyfield, Hopkins are all guys who could box, fight on the inside, counter punch, take a punch, use footwork, brawl, box. They also had underrated athletic abilities Holyfield and Hopkins both punch harder than they are given credit for and they are all faster than people seem to give them credit for, but one thing they all had in common except Duran was an amazing workout and always came in, in spectacular shape.

Can you name any other fights in this group?

Miguel Cotto. Not the fastest guy, not the best chin, not the hardest hitter, not too sound technically, not the best defense, but he gets through with sheer determination.

Has beaten slick boxers, pressure fighters, power punchers and tricky lefties.

I think he has done well, and I expect to see him get even better.

floyd mayweather jr. doesnt seem to be lacking in any area

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Originally Posted by Taeth

I am starting to notice a lot of the guys who didn't have the greatest speed, power, but they have enough of everything to be as good or considered better than the better athletes of their generation.

Hagler, Duran, Holyfield, Hopkins are all guys who could box, fight on the inside, counter punch, take a punch, use footwork, brawl, box. They also had underrated athletic abilities Holyfield and Hopkins both punch harder than they are given credit for and they are all faster than people seem to give them credit for, but one thing they all had in common except Duran was an amazing workout and always came in, in spectacular shape.

Can you name any other fights in this group?

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dont know about Duran being in spectacular shape , after reading his book it seems he always had such trouble making weight (though i dont think he ever failed cause he would almost kill himself doing it everytime ) that he was never really 100%

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floyd mayweather jr. doesnt seem to be lacking in any area

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he excels so greatly in almost every area though, he doesn't have " a little bit of everything", he has a TONNE of speed and agility.

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only i can think now

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floyd mayweather jr. doesnt seem to be lacking in any area

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He lacks power to ko guys in his current division, and he has blinding speed which makes him an exceptional athlete.

Barrera, Morrales.

Sugar Ray Robinson
Aaron Pryor
Marvin Hagler

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ALL great fighters have a bit of everything, that is why they are great fighters.

It's very rare that a someone would be recognised as a great fighter who lacks any major boxing attribute ..... those that do seem to compensate by having an absolute surfeit of something (Rocky Marciano, Tommy Hearns come to mind, but I'm sure there are others)

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ALL great fighters have a bit of everything, that is why they are great fighters.

It's very rare that a someone would be recognised as a great fighter who lacks any major boxing attribute ..... those that do seem to compensate by having an absolute surfeit of something (Rocky Marciano, Tommy Hearns come to mind, but I'm sure there are others)

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Completely agree on this X...

No disrespect to Taeth, but as I read the title of the thread I said WTF?

Don't all great fighters have a little bit of everything, that's why they are great....

Sure enough I scroll down and read your post....

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Sugar Ray Robinson
Aaron Pryor
Marvin Hagler

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Robinson had amazing speed, and power... I am talking about guys who are Roy Jones Jr., Mayweather, Robinson, Leonard... I am talking about the guys who weren't blessed with gifts that set them so far apart, but purely technique and hardwork with decent athleticism.

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Originally Posted by X

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ALL great fighters have a bit of everything, that is why they are great fighters.

It's very rare that a someone would be recognised as a great fighter who lacks any major boxing attribute ..... those that do seem to compensate by having an absolute surfeit of something (Rocky Marciano, Tommy Hearns come to mind, but I'm sure there are others)

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Completely agree on this X...

No disrespect to Taeth, but as I read the title of the thread I said WTF?

Don't all great fighters have a little bit of everything, that's why they are great....

Sure enough I scroll down and read your post....

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I am talking about the versatile guys
You never really saw Frazier change it up or Ali become a power puncher who weaved in with both hands high. Almost all the champions were one dimensional

Sugar Ray boxed
Leonard could do both
Hearns had to keep an opponent on the outside or overwhelm them, but he was mainly a boxer.

There are some guys who were good at everything, and they didn't have all the talent in the world, and thats who I am looking for.

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floyd mayweather jr. doesnt seem to be lacking in any area

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Mayweather is no puncher thats for sure

Basically a jack of all trades but a master of none.

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Originally Posted by X

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ALL great fighters have a bit of everything, that is why they are great fighters.

It's very rare that a someone would be recognised as a great fighter who lacks any major boxing attribute ..... those that do seem to compensate by having an absolute surfeit of something (Rocky Marciano, Tommy Hearns come to mind, but I'm sure there are others)

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Completely agree on this X...

No disrespect to Taeth, but as I read the title of the thread I said WTF?

Don't all great fighters have a little bit of everything, that's why they are great....

Sure enough I scroll down and read your post....

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I am talking about the versatile guys
You never really saw Frazier change it up or Ali become a power puncher who weaved in with both hands high. Almost all the champions were one dimensional

Sugar Ray boxed
Leonard could do both
Hearns had to keep an opponent on the outside or overwhelm them, but he was mainly a boxer.

There are some guys who were good at everything, and they didn't have all the talent in the world, and thats who I am looking for.

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Not sure if this is several grades below the level of "great" you're after, but a favourite of mine from the late 80s was Marlon Starling. Not to be mentioned in the same breath as Robinson, Duran, Leonard et al, but to me he seemed to have a bit of everything. He had the misfortune to box when Curry was in his prime, but I was certain that he'd destroy Honeygan a few years on (and I'm a Brit).

Yeah, Starling is a good one, so are Buddy McGirt, Robbie Sims, Jerry Quarry, Cleveland Williams, Vitali Klitschko, Dwight Qawi?