Even if PBF does beat Ricky, he still wouldn't have beat the best at 140 or 147

Even if PBF does beat Ricky, he still wouldn't have beat the best at 140 or 147

And that's the bottom line cus Stone Cold said so! ;D

I am rooting for Hatton and I wish him luck.

Cotto vs PBF at 147 and then I will be excited.

Not to keen about Hatton/PBF at 147.

Hatto should have insisted it be at 140 since Hatton is the best at 140.

Is there a rematch clause?

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Even if PBF does beat Ricky, he still wouldn't have beat the best at 140 or 147

And that's the bottom line cus Stone Cold said so! ;D

I am rooting for Hatton and I wish him luck.

Cotto vs PBF at 147 and then I will be excited.

Not to keen about Hatton/PBF at 147.

Hatto should have insisted it be at 140 since Hatton is the best at 140.

Is there a rematch clause?

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Hatton called out PBF so he has little say in the weight.

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Even if PBF does beat Ricky, he still wouldn't have beat the best at 140 or 147

And that's the bottom line cus Stone Cold said so! ;D

I am rooting for Hatton and I wish him luck.

Cotto vs PBF at 147 and then I will be excited.

Not to keen about Hatton/PBF at 147.

Hatto should have insisted it be at 140 since Hatton is the best at 140.

Is there a rematch clause?

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Hatton called out PBF so he has little say in the weight.

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Hatton is the best at 140 and that is the weight they should be fighting at. But what ever. I am not a huge Hatton fan but I think Hatton is making a mistake. Floyd should be fighting a true Welter at 147 and not little Ricky.

Floyd's not much bigger than Hatton, i actually don't think he's bigger at all, and honestly i don't think it would make a difference at what weight the fight happens i think he beats Hatton by a landslide at anyweight, and i don't even like PBF :-\ :-\

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Even if PBF does beat Ricky, he still wouldn't have beat the best at 140 or 147

And that's the bottom line cus Stone Cold said so! ;D

I am rooting for Hatton and I wish him luck.

Cotto vs PBF at 147 and then I will be excited.

Not to keen about Hatton/PBF at 147.

Hatto should have insisted it be at 140 since Hatton is the best at 140.

Is there a rematch clause?

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I really hope Hatton wins this as well especially since Floyd's already starting the "I'ma ice this mofo" crap when in reality he means: I will use my defensive skills to cruise to a UD without taking any unnecessary chances, or in turn provide any entertainment value to the casual boxing fan. ;) I think Floyd is most def. P4P#1, and I know it's not realistic to face all fighters who are a threat to him in this day in age, but he MUST fight the winner of Cotto/Mosley to prove he is in FACT the best welter in the world regardless of popular opinion.

CC for the topic.

lets not forget PBF start at 130. so it not like he been 147 and beyond his whole career and is forcing hatton to move up. don't try and make it look like PBF is fighting a much smaller guy.

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Floyd's not much bigger than Hatton, i actually don't think he's bigger at all, and honestly i don't think it would make a difference at what weight the fight happens i think he beats Hatton by a landslide at anyweight, and i don't even like PBF :-\ :-\

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I agree bro, Floyd beats Hatton at any weight. Hatton called out Floyd & IMO Hatton needs Mayweather more than Pretty Boy needs Ricky. Mayweathers last fight was at Jr Middle so to drop down to 140 would be crazy. It's not like Floyd is making Ricky move to 154... I think WW is a fair weight for the fight to happen!

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Even if PBF does beat Ricky, he still wouldn't have beat the best at 140 or 147

And that's the bottom line cus Stone Cold said so! ;D

I am rooting for Hatton and I wish him luck.

Cotto vs PBF at 147 and then I will be excited.

Not to keen about Hatton/PBF at 147.

Hatto should have insisted it be at 140 since Hatton is the best at 140.

Is there a rematch clause?

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Mayweather is naturally smaller than Hatton so your excuse is invalid.

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

Even if PBF does beat Ricky, he still wouldn't have beat the best at 140 or 147

And that's the bottom line cus Stone Cold said so! ;D

I am rooting for Hatton and I wish him luck.

Cotto vs PBF at 147 and then I will be excited.

Not to keen about Hatton/PBF at 147.

Hatto should have insisted it be at 140 since Hatton is the best at 140.

Is there a rematch clause?

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Mayweather is naturally smaller than Hatton so your excuse is invalid.

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No way on earth that PBF is naturally smaller than Hatton, if even he did debut 7 pounds lighter than Hatton did. He is 2 inches taller has something like a 7 inch reach advantage and you only have to look at their frames and the muscle mass to see that OBF is a far bigger guy - not an excuse - just think you're wrong!

PBF inside 7 Hatton stopped on his feet :(

Mayweather could not stop Hatton he does not have the power and has not stopped an elite fighter at the higher weights. Hatton should have insisted they fight at 140 since he beat the man in Kostya whereas Floyd only beat Gatti so he does have a case for the fight at 140lb. Hatton´s chances are slim but he will make Floyd work for the victory.

If Floyd can make the legs of an elite 154 lber with an excellent chin misbehave then Im sure he can do it to Ricky.

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Even if PBF does beat Ricky, he still wouldn't have beat the best at 140 or 147

And that's the bottom line cus Stone Cold said so! ;D

I am rooting for Hatton and I wish him luck.

Cotto vs PBF at 147 and then I will be excited.

Not to keen about Hatton/PBF at 147.

Hatto should have insisted it be at 140 since Hatton is the best at 140.

Is there a rematch clause?

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Mayweather is naturally smaller than Hatton so your excuse is invalid.

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No way on earth that PBF is naturally smaller than Hatton, if even he did debut 7 pounds lighter than Hatton did. He is 2 inches taller has something like a 7 inch reach advantage and you only have to look at their frames and the muscle mass to see that OBF is a far bigger guy - not an excuse - just think you're wrong!

PBF inside 7 Hatton stopped on his feet :(

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Beat me to it

Guys honestly, what difference does it make. It is not like Maywether is going to try and overpower Hatton and impose his size. I would not be supprised if Floyd steppet into the ring well bellow 147. I just don't see it making any difference. Floyd is going to fight his fight and beat the piss out of Hatton. And if Hatton does give Floyd trouble its going to be cuz of his style not his size.

I am not a fan of PBF's fights. And I do agree that Hatton is not exactly the biggest challenge out there for him. But these excuses are really staring to get ridiculous. He was old, he wasn't the real champ, he was past it and now its he's too small. The guy is undefeated, in his prime and without a doubt the undisputed 140lb champ. What more do you want. I didn't see anybody giving Aaron Pryor sh*t for beating up Alexis Arguello or Salvador Sanches for beating Wilfredo Gomez.

I have been suprisingly mum about my opinions on this fight, because since its been on everyones wishlist and eagerly anticipated, this matchup has been analyzed, broken down and speculated on more than anymatcup I can remember on my year and 4 months here.

I have broken it down countless times and spoke my peace. The only new wrinkle I see is that Floyd isint fighting to get a title or add a higher weight to his resume so this beating he's handing out isint Business.... Its gonna be pleasure ;D

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I have been suprisingly mum about my opinions on this fight, because since its been on everyones wishlist and eagerly anticipated, this matchup has been analyzed, broken down and speculated on more than anymatcup I can remember on my year and 4 months here.

I have broken it down countless times and spoke my peace. The only new wrinkle I see is that Floyd isint fighting to get a title or add a higher weight to his resume so this beating he's handing out isint Business.... Its gonna be pleasure ;D

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If $10,000,000 isn't business then I don't know what is.

Here we go with this stuff already....pbf could beat ali in his prime and people would still find something to say.....most people realize he's gonna win again probably pretty impressively but i think it's a little early to not be giving him credit for a fight he hasn't fought yet, oh but wait let hatton win and the fucking world will rejoyce.....

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

Even if PBF does beat Ricky, he still wouldn't have beat the best at 140 or 147

And that's the bottom line cus Stone Cold said so! ;D

I am rooting for Hatton and I wish him luck.

Cotto vs PBF at 147 and then I will be excited.

Not to keen about Hatton/PBF at 147.

Hatto should have insisted it be at 140 since Hatton is the best at 140.

Is there a rematch clause?

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Mayweather is naturally smaller than Hatton so your excuse is invalid.

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No way on earth that PBF is naturally smaller than Hatton, if even he did debut 7 pounds lighter than Hatton did. He is 2 inches taller has something like a 7 inch reach advantage and you only have to look at their frames and the muscle mass to see that OBF is a far bigger guy - not an excuse - just think you're wrong!

PBF inside 7 Hatton stopped on his feet :(

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HOw can you say that Hatton weighs 30-40 pounds more than PBF inbetween fights... Mayweather walks around at 150 at most while Hatton walks around anywhere from 170 to 180 thats 20 to 30 pounds more. Hatton has a much thicker body than PBF, and PBF looked freakishly big against Oscar Dela Hoya but he still only weighed 150 which is less than Hatton comes in fight night at 140.

I don't get why people keep trying to force that floyd will be a great. He may be very talented and skilled but floyd is no great compare to ray robinson. floyd will just be one of those boxer like sweet pea. Floyd just doesn't have other greats in his era to be greater than what he is now.

If he beats hatton which I think he should then it would add on to his credential but he'll have to beat cotto williams too.

And don't forget its not just winning a boxing match, its how you punish your oppenents thats what makes you great.

LETS FACE IT FLOYD DOES NOT HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO BE A LEGENDARY GREAT LIKE ALI OR ROBINSON. FLOYD DOES NOT HAVE THAT WILL TO PUNISH OPPENENTS CONSISTENTLY. to him a s.d or u.d is enough, but really it is NOT!

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I don't get why people keep trying to force that floyd will be a great. He may be very talented and skilled but floyd is no great compare to ray robinson. floyd will just be one of those boxer like sweet pea.

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whitaker is considered an all time great by everybody that watches boxing ;)
if mayweather retires on the same level as sweet pea then he too will be an all time great.



the rest of your post is nonsense as well, but less so than the part i singled out

for the record hatton said he will be comin in around 140 against floyd he said he dont care bout givin up 7 pound. and why does nobody give hatton a chance in this fight it will be floyds toughest fight to date. trust

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Even if PBF does beat Ricky, he still wouldn't have beat the best at 140 or 147

And that's the bottom line cus Stone Cold said so! ;D

I am rooting for Hatton and I wish him luck.

Cotto vs PBF at 147 and then I will be excited.

Not to keen about Hatton/PBF at 147.

Hatto should have insisted it be at 140 since Hatton is the best at 140.

Is there a rematch clause?

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agasint a style like flyod has, the weight difference of 7lb will have no fucking effect on this fight. i like you and alot of your posts danny, but u got to get off all this maweather hating shit, its the same every post u make about floyd, your grasping for anyything to take a shot at this guy. ir eally thought after he moved up and beat oscar you would get off his case, u did for a while now its started again:/

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for the record hatton said he will be comin in around 140 against floyd he said he dont care bout givin up 7 pound. and why does nobody give hatton a chance in this fight it will be floyds toughest fight to date. trust

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some how i really doubt that, i think DLH was a way tougher test, and he passed with a C IMO, i see him getting an A+ against Hatton, completely dominating him

I agree somwhat with the thread title in that in the grand scheme of things,with the fight taking place at WW,it still won't make anything clearer. So if Hatton wins,is he the best WW?I don't think so.

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HOw can you say that Hatton weighs 30-40 pounds more than PBF inbetween fights... Mayweather walks around at 150 at most while Hatton walks around anywhere from 170 to 180 thats 20 to 30 pounds more. Hatton has a much thicker body than PBF, and PBF looked freakishly big against Oscar Dela Hoya but he still only weighed 150 which is less than Hatton comes in fight night at 140.

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excellent point, lets keep it in perspective.

There is nothing wrong with this matchup and kudo's to both guys for making it finally happen.

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I have been suprisingly mum ...
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Hmmm. JT, ya changing personalities between paragraphs here?

I agree, though, Floyd's fighting to fight. Money and glory bring some of the pleasure. The fight itself brings the rest.

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Hmmm. JT, ya changing personalities between paragraphs here?

I agree, though, Floyd's fighting to fight. Money and glory bring some of the pleasure. The fight itself brings the rest.

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Currently I have been uncharacteristically quiet, but in the past I have been very vocal about the match up

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If Floyd can make the legs of an elite 154 lber with an excellent chin misbehave then Im sure he can do it to Ricky.

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if he can wobble DLH at 154 then why not hatton at 147. i haven't seen a fighter yet walk through PBF punches like the haters say will happen every fight.

i think alot of people are starting to comment on fighters and fights that they haven't watched. i suggest that some of you take a little trip over to the file sharing board.

Collazo beat Hatton at 147, so Mayweather should be able to do it.

Face it, Callazo beat Hatton. Could have gone either way, but looking back, Callazo was conistent and finished strong, even with the knockdown.

Good fight for Mayweather though. A fight, but not a claim for pound for pound number one status.

I would like to see PBF with Williams or Cotto. I would even think that Paul Mallinagi and Pbf would be a great fight. Both are very hard to hit and have similar styles and they are both lighting quick.

i dont see at all y he should have to fight williams

It does not matter what weight the fights at. Floyd may think fighting Ricky at 147 gives him an edge, but Hatton is going to knock Mayweather out, No Doubt! O0

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Even if PBF does beat Ricky, he still wouldn't have beat the best at 140 or 147

And that's the bottom line cus Stone Cold said so! ;D

I am rooting for Hatton and I wish him luck.

Cotto vs PBF at 147 and then I will be excited.

Not to keen about Hatton/PBF at 147.

Hatto should have insisted it be at 140 since Hatton is the best at 140.

Is there a rematch clause?

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if he beats Hatton he beats the best at 140 end of story

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Even if PBF does beat Ricky, he still wouldn't have beat the best at 140 or 147

And that's the bottom line cus Stone Cold said so! ;D

I am rooting for Hatton and I wish him luck.

Cotto vs PBF at 147 and then I will be excited.

Not to keen about Hatton/PBF at 147.

Hatto should have insisted it be at 140 since Hatton is the best at 140.

Is there a rematch clause?

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Yes he is. Simply enough. If Floyd beats Hatton then he would have beaten the champions at 147, 154 and 140 all in a row. And there is no doubt that Floyd is the best welterweight in the world, and he is the undisputed champion to boot.

PBF is best at 147 yet he still fought De La Hoya at 154. He just weighed in less then the maximum limit. Hatton doesn't have to put on 7 extra pounds, he can weigh in at 142 and be just the same fighter as he is at 140. I doubt Floyd is going to weigh in at anything more then 145 anyways.

But I agree, Cotto vs Floyd is the matchup I want. But still, he's in there with a real pressure fighter. Not a skilled boxer who had to adjust to the role of a pressure fighter to make the fight close like De La Hoya did.

If Hatton comes to fight in top form, which I have every reason to believe he will, then PBF definitely has a fight on his hands. As much as I like Floyd, I really doubt this is going to be the 120 - 108 type fight a lot of people think it will be.

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The guy is undefeated, in his prime and without a doubt the undisputed 140lb champ. What more do you want. I didn't see anybody giving Aaron Pryor sh*t for beating up Alexis Arguello or Salvador Sanches for beating Wilfredo Gomez.

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Originally Posted by Julius Rain

I don't get why people keep trying to force that floyd will be a great. He may be very talented and skilled but floyd is no great compare to ray robinson. floyd will just be one of those boxer like sweet pea. Floyd just doesn't have other greats in his era to be greater than what he is now.

If he beats hatton which I think he should then it would add on to his credential but he'll have to beat cotto williams too.

And don't forget its not just winning a boxing match, its how you punish your oppenents thats what makes you great.

LETS FACE IT FLOYD DOES NOT HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO BE A LEGENDARY GREAT LIKE ALI OR ROBINSON. FLOYD DOES NOT HAVE THAT WILL TO PUNISH OPPENENTS CONSISTENTLY. to him a s.d or u.d is enough, but really it is NOT!

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If we are comparing fighters to Ali and Robinson then there are about 5 great fighters that ever lived. That's the truth of it. Floyd has been the best fighter in boxing for a long time now and he's never stopped short of challenging himself against quality opposition. From 129 to 154, you won't find a better resume then Floyd's in today's age. It's not about how you punish your opponents either, this is boxing, the sweet science, and there are scorecards for a reason.

To say he is the next Whitaker like it is some type of insult is probably one of the more stupid things I have ever read here. Most everybody has Whitaker up there with the top 20 greatest fighters of all time.

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I agree somwhat with the thread title in that in the grand scheme of things,with the fight taking place at WW,it still won't make anything clearer. So if Hatton wins,is he the best WW?I don't think so.

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Why wouldn't Hatton be? I mean to be the best you have to beat the best right? Mayweather is the absolute best and as big of a Cotto fan I am, even if he sparks Mosley out in the first round, it won't be as big or meaningful to the rankings as Hatton beating the champion.

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

Even if PBF does beat Ricky, he still wouldn't have beat the best at 140 or 147

And that's the bottom line cus Stone Cold said so! ;D

I am rooting for Hatton and I wish him luck.

Cotto vs PBF at 147 and then I will be excited.

Not to keen about Hatton/PBF at 147.

Hatto should have insisted it be at 140 since Hatton is the best at 140.

Is there a rematch clause?

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147 is fair Mayweather moves down Hatton moves up Hatton is best at 140 and win over Hatton will be big yes Mayweather still needs to fight winner of Cotto vs Mosley and Paul Williams but you need to give him a break he moved up to fight Oscar Mayweather is taking all big fights now he is very talented when your p4p number 1 you call the shots if Hatton wants a piece of Mayweather he has to move up simple as.