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Was sparring a bloke on Tuesday and he said I was getting hit too much because I look at the gloves. He said I should look at his face and try to keep an eye on his feet as well as they give away what is coming.
Anybody else have any ideas on this?
Also, during sparring I took a fairly solid uppercut to the nose and it hurt and my eyes watered like hell. Any trick to dealing with this aside from the obvious (don't get hit there in the first place).
as far as the nose watering up that will adjust a bit as you get used to being hit......
Try looking at his shoulders a bit when sparring...easier to time faints and see when he is about to commit because you cn see the ahole body about to turn
Always watch the shoulders just like Daxxkahn said above me thats what i was told to do and also in Larry Holmes forum someone asked same question as you and Holmes said himself shoulders so you can't go wrong mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greig
Cheers guys, thanks for the help.
I was trying to look at the shoulders the other day but it still wasn't doing me much good :D
Will try harder next time.
:D always remember asking Terry Downes if he looked at eyes in a fight and his reply. Scrap Ive never been hit with a pair of eyes yet load of bolocks, got a way with words had Terry. Youll get use to in a while coardinated movement and response to opposite action ie, punching and the avoidance of punches. Otherwise you will finninsh up with a flat nose and nothing between the ears , just like me
Here is something that also help...though your trainer probably taught you this.....
If a guy is fast and is the type who shoots his punch out with not prior movement...( No matter how slight most guy's somewhat get a bit tensed up not enough to actually notice it unless your looking but just enough if you know what to look for EG why I said look at the shoulders).Like a Roy Jones type guy who just shoots out his lead Right with no warning...
Jab the guy's shoulders...not hard no need for that just shoot it out there and tap his shoulder area....It makes the body have to sort of reset it self...after a bit you can judge body language on what he like to lead with as he resets himself....
like I said it is suttle but suttle things make the difference.....
Also try looking just a little down from the shoulders (around the area where your sides are if you put your arms down)....those muscles will flinch no matter what when throwing a punch even a lead right with no notice....
Try a few other methods on your own as well.....Remember sparring is PRACTICE........bvetter take a few shots sparring then when it counts ;)
I was always one for the elbows and knees but that is dealing with both arms and legs, knees and elbows as weponry and head as a weapon too and those points are the stop points and also the major balance points for disruption as well as the points that move at half the rate of the attacking appendage if its a full extention attack.
I think it works great for just the arms too as in boxing, but it takes slight adjusments in range and places you and your blocks futher in which also stops the full launch process and forces bodily adjusments in order to be able to get one off clean in reply.
I dont think it would serve all the time but is definatley useful if your at the stage in some battles of adjusting distances and power for disruption of their movment and quelling arms before they can move and then using feeling from that inner point.
I like the thought of varying eye contact for a whole fighter not just for boxing ,eye to eye at non contact range,eye to centre at contact range (extended foot),eye to shoulder at hand range (extended fingers),eye to elbow at that (elbow and knee)contact range and central to everything at full contact ALL range becuase you instinctivly know where all your targets are at that extreme inner stage, you dont have to rely on sight at all at that stage ,its eventaully faster if you dont because there is thought in between sight and reaction and less thought in between no sight and straight reaction.
Just an idea to play with, for some, not take too seriously for others ,but works perfectly if you use it in the right curcumtances.
Greig how you doing bro, long time no see.
I like that one Scrap, I hope you don't mind if I borrow that one. ;D I think after countless hours of watching their elbows you can have a feel for what they're going to throw. Joe Gans had a knack for reading his opponent through their elbows seeing what kind of punch that they were going to throw and where it's headed. I guess it's something you pick up on after looking at it after so many times. That's something I'd want to have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrap
That's a nice way to break an opponent's timing/concentration, more important is observing what kid of reaction that you get out of your opponent. You can also do as Benny Leonard has done, use a light push on their shoulder just enough to give you a quick opening if you catch them off guard. You can also switch up the attack this way by turning their body enough that their arms are out of the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Another one that's been mentioned is jabbing at the guy's right glove, this does plenty in breaking up a guys timing and can even go as far breaking their rhythm, discouraging the use of them throwing their right hand as often and might even give you a quick opening.
Neat stuff by the way, that's what sparring is for. You should always test your opponent's reactions and make them do what you want them to do.
Anyways good posts everybody. CC. :)
Just look @ the clock so that u always know how much time is left in the round.
That's just a bad joke bro. Don't take me seriously in this post.
Sugar Ray Leonard could always tell you when there was just 10 seconds left in the round. ;)
I have a built in clock in my head. Most guys after having logged in 100's or 1000's of rounds get a feel for when rounds are coming to the end. Having cornermen keeping time & shouting to u is a big help to. ;)
He used to have his corner shout it didn't he ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris N.
Yeah, his did that on many occasions. Alot of fighters corners do it. But even so, most guys that have significant ring time have a clock in their head & have a very good feel for that 3 minutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Andre
Yeah, I'm very well mate - don't get on here as much as I used to and I have only really started using this board this year.
Joined a gym and started doing a bit of training earlier this year... Gave the cigs away (last April) and thought I'd like to try something new. I'm loving it too, heaps of fun.
How about yourself man, keeping well?
Got that famous flu, been in here for a week getting over it now im off again so these poor people can get over me.
Hi Andre, I hope you got the flu bug off your back.
It's nice to see you around this often. Anyways how's things going?
Believe it or not,cornermen are NOT allowed to do that in WVQuote:
Originally Posted by silent assassin
Must be silent until the round ends
Fun learning lesson there kids,read the rules of the state your fighting in VERY carefully,every states got these odd little riders
There's always ways around these things for a strong corner. 1 way would be to have someone that is not working the corner but is close enough to the ring for the fighter to hear. I have seen so many ways to gain advantages over the years it's not even funny.
They still spazz on it here,it can cost you youre corner license,aint worth the risk,know two clicks on it means times coming,and come sluggingQuote:
Originally Posted by silent assassin