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Vasquez Vs. Marquez and Caballero Vs. Lacierva RBR
Rafael Marquez http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...3019&cat=boxer
Vs.
Israel Vasquez http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...9086&cat=boxer
This is the rematch after the first fight was stopped in the 7th due to a broken nose suffered by Vasquez. The broken nose came early on I believe and Vasquez had a problem with breathing through his nose. The fight was close and I feel Vasquez was coming on a bit. Marquez has a stiff jab that I think did most of the damage in the first fight. Vasquez could have a long night trying to work his way inside.
Celestino Caballero http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...5122&cat=boxer
Vs.
Jorge Lacierva http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...7936&cat=boxer
I dont know much about either of these two fighters. This is my first time seeing them both in a full fight. Caballero is real tall for a super bantamweight (5'11")and is a rangy boxer from what I've seen. Lacierva has a ko loss to Cruz Carbajal so I'm thinking this may end early....
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Re: Vasquez Vs. Marquez and Caballero Vs. Lacierva RBR
Just make this a sticky mate and CC from me for doing this ;)
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Re: Vasquez Vs. Marquez and Caballero Vs. Lacierva RBR
Just add the weighin photos and report...
The four fighters competing in the 122-pound world title fights tonight on Showtime at 9 p.m. ET/PT, delayed on the west coast, made weight easily Friday.
Former WBC champion Israel Vazquez and defending WBC super bantamweight champion Rafael Marquez each weighed in at 121 pounds.
Challenger Jorge Lacierva tipped scale at 121 pounds, while reigning WBA 122-pound titleholder Celestino Caballero weighed 121 1/2.
In an eagerly awaited rematch, Marquez defends against Vazquez and Caballero risks his belt against Lacierva in the top fights of a six-bout card Saturday at Dodge Arena in Hidalgo, Tex.
The fight card is presented by Gary Shaw Productions and Sycuan Ringside Promotions in association with Golden Boy Promotions.
Bout Sheet...
FIGHT CARD
“SHOWTIME CHAMPIONSHIP BOXING”
GARY SHAW PRODUCTIONS, LLC / ROMANZA BOXING
SYCUAN RINGSIDE PROMOTIONS / GOLDEN BOY PROMOTIONS
AUGUST 4, 2007…DODGE ARENA…HIDALGO, TX
(6 Rds. Lightweight Bout)
JUAN CASTANADA VS. JOSE MAGALLON
La Paz, Mexico Las Vegas, NV
(10-0, 9 KOs) (5-3, 3 KOs)
131 lbs White/red, green Red 130 ½ lbs
(6/8 Rds. Jr. Middleweight Bout)
ALFREDO ANGULO VS. TARONZE WASHINGTON
Mexicali, Mexico Dallas, Texas
(7-0, 5 KOs) (9-7, 5 KOs)
153 ½ lbs Silver/black Black/Silver 155 lbs
(6/8 Rds. Lightweight Bout)
JORGE PAEZ, JR. VS. JAIME ORRANTIA
Mexicali, Mexico Los Mochis, Mexico
(15-1, 10 KOs) (11-17)
142 ½ lbs Gold Red/white 141 ¼ lbs
(4 Rds. Bantamweight Bout)
JOSE SALAZAR VS. GABRIEL RANGEL
Odessa, TX Vera Cruz, Mexico
(4-0, 3 KOs) (3-1-2, 0 KOs)
118 lbs Black Camouflage 118 lbs
(12 Rds. WBA Super Bantamweight Championship)
CELESTINO CABALLERO VS. JORGE LACIERVA
Colon, Panama Santa Anita, Mexico
(26-2, 18 KOs) (32-6-6, 22 KOs)
121 lbs White White/red, green 121 ½ lbs
WBA CHAMPION NO. 13 WBA CONTENDER
(12 Rds. WBC Super Bantamweight Championship)
RAFAEL MARQUEZ VS. ISRAEL VAZQUEZ
Mexico City, Mexico Mexico City Mexico
(37-3, 33 KOs) (41-4, 31 KOs)
121 lbs White/black Red/white 121 lbs
WBC CHAMPION FORMER WBC CHAMPION
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Re: Vasquez Vs. Marquez and Caballero Vs. Lacierva RBR
R. Marquez by KO. It'll be de javu all over again for Vasquez.
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Thanks for the weigh in pics, I didnt see them earlier. I think Vasquez is gonna pull it off, this should go longer because Vasquez will be conscience of his nose. Damn, Caballero is way taller than Lacierva, should be interesting fights.
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I'll be following your RBR as I watch the Morales fight, CC for the good work bro. I think Raf will have plenty to beat Vazquez again, but Caballero is a fighter I really like...he's just freakishly tall for that weight. So favourites all through for me I think :)
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N.C you did a good job last time, I'll just be the last result. that idea you had about me and you doing two rbr and two different outcome is a good one, but sometimes we get too many people and the forum slows down so I will leave you to it. But I got your back bro, I'll be around. If you slow down or have problems I"ll help out somehow.
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Round 1 of 12 Caballero Vs. Lacierva
I will refer to Caballero as CC and Lacierva as JL
7" height difference in this one, Lacierva come to the ring in a Mexican/American robe. It looks like he stole some tinsle off last years christmas tree to finish it ;D . Caballero comes to the ring in Panama's colors. CC dances a bit in the ring.Garcia Martinez Ramos are judges, Lawrence Cole is the ref.Caballero gets boos from the Mexican crowd ;) CC is a full head above JL at center ring.
Jabns from easch.. lead right from cc....lunging hook to body from JL...CC pawing away.....Jl lands nice lunging lead left hook...missed shots and a tie up....counter hooks from cc....right cross leads into combos for JL...JL gets inside and lands right uppercut...CC hits behind the head, weak shots Gave thayt one to JL 10-9
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Ooh by the way I'm rooting for vazquez this time, so we can see a trilogy ;D
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Round 2 of 12
Jabs from JL...jabs from CC..Mixing it up inside JL is getting off hooks....CC is pressing..JLhooks to the head..tie up...lead left hooks by CCin fighting by JL....few big misses by each...CC winging overhead rights behind jab...JL making CC miss a bit... I think CC had the better work in that round. 10-9
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Round 3 of 12
lead hook is countered by double left hooks to body by JL....CC dancing...JL lands nice hooks and lead rights...JL is making it his fight....big haymaker just missed CC....trading hooks JL hits behind the back...CC tries to taunt him....JL give him uppercut in reply...JL and CC exchange a shove at the end. round to JL 10-9 29-28 JL through 3
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Rpound 4 of 12
round opens with JL switching stance and loads up on his lead lefts...body shots by JL...JL takes big shots but glancing shots...CC lead left uppehook,,,CC jabslead right by CC...round to CC 10-9 even fight 38 38
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Unless Caballero does something soon He is losing his title..
In Case I forget NC CC#196
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Round 5 of 12
CC trying to jab, glancing shots by cc...CC keeping better range now...JL landing shot inside , some behind the head when Cc is holding him...alot of missed shots by both...Jl getting by CC's jab Round to JL. 10-9 48 47 for JL
Round 6 of 12
CC comes out jabbing more...JL lunges with a missed left hook...lead left hooks by CC...tioe up with CC landing to JL's back..lead uppers by CC tyo the body...hooks to the body by cc..JL right left hooks then headbutts, point deducted by REF. JL mkisses counters...inside now, and ends with few miisses. 10-8 round for CC
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This fight is getting dirty....Can you believe Marquez was threatening not to fight...did not like the way Velazquez gloves were taped???
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Round & of 12
CC starts out outside.CC pushes off and is warnedCC stayin outside jabbin..JL lands big right....in fighting with weak shots by both...right by CC...JL lands a big right and CC is a bit stunned...CC comes back asand its getting good with some heated exchanges..close round but JL edged it 10-9
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Round 8 of 12
jabs from CCtie up CC lands inside combo...CC is coming inside, not wise...CC is landing lead uppercuts and rights with the jabs....Jabs from CC...CC moving side to sidehes gonna win this round on output..30 secs...tie ups... 10-9 for CC leads it 76-75
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Sounds like a close fight. I NEED Cabbageman to win this on points else my Prediction campaign is pretty much dead in the water :-\
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Is it just me? or is Caballero's corner trippin?
I think the fights real close, but Caballero's corner is telling him that he's down by 4 pts after the point deduction on Lacierva.
I got Lacierva up by a point
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Round 9 of 12
Jl starts out with more output..slips...CC keeping proper rangeJL is landing more on a squared up CC..close insfighting..CC measuring and JL smothers him..big right left hook combo by JL..close round I will give it JL 10-9 even fight
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
Is it just me? or is Caballero's corner trippin?
I think the fights real close, but Caballero's corner is telling him that he's down by 4 pts after the point deduction on Lacierva.
I got Lacierva up by a point
Bilbo throws his virtual tickets stub and stomps off into the kitchen to make an angry brew. A teabag could get seriously hurt the way he's feeling right now.
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Round 10 of 12 JL comes out swinging CC warned for holding....CC slips and they tie up..CC pushes JL another warning, ref sayys last......nice uppercut by CC... CC winging hooks..lead right by CC...tie up...Jl ,oevs and misses hook to body...double uppers by CC...hit to back of CC's head inside...crowd cheers Jorge......holding inside by CC...Caballero ends the round with more output and wins this one. 10-9 95 94 CC
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Round 11 of 12
missed hooks by both...tie up...CC jabs and hooks...JL lands nice counter left hook...CC a bit off balance...jab right combo, weak tho fromCC....JL clubs shots inside, more hugging...CC hooks to body...slip by CC...jabs to set up right by CC...lots of holding inside...one two by CC...CC trading a bit more...close round..but CC had more output..10-9 105 103 for CC
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Round 12 of 12
more slipping in the middle of the ring...jabs fro JL...JL comes in winging hooks and lands a few...CC jabbing to right hook to the body...headbutt inside by JL....wild hook misses for JL..CC getting dirty back with a elbow...tie up...CC missing alot...holding JL slip on hook...CC fends off JL in a close round JL takes 10-9 114 113 for Caballero on my card ..whew close fight..always when I do a RBR...
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Martine 115-112 Ramos 116-111 Garcia 116-110 UD for Celestino Caballero
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Originally Posted by No Contest
Martine 115-112 Ramos 116-111 Garcia 116-110 UD for Celestino Caballero
YES!!! Way to go judges!!! 6 points in the bank, I'm clawing them back now!
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Those scores are criminal....There should be an investigation....F'IN BULLS***....
I can see Caballero winning by a point or two even 3 but 116-110 116-111......
A disgrace.....This crap is killing boxing
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
ROBBED!!!!!
There was no robbery here.
The scores were total bullshit (obviously) but I (and most people that follow boxing ;)) had Caballero by a round or two.
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Re: Vasquez Vs. Marquez and Caballero Vs. Lacierva RBR
Lacierva thinks he should have won, and so did the crowd, but it was close up until the last round, so he does have arguement considering the scores.
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by No Contest
Martine 115-112 Ramos 116-111 Garcia 116-110 UD for Celestino Caballero
YES!!! Way to go judges!!! 6 points in the bank, I'm clawing them back now!
Get in! That teabag gets to survive another day! I also had Caballero UD, both in the prediction league and in the sportsbook, so double joy on that one. Now wins for Marquez and Diaz will make me a happy bunny.
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Those scores are criminal....There should be an investigation....F'IN BULLS***....
I can see Caballero winning by a point or two even 3 but 116-110 116-111......
A disgrace.....This crap is killing boxing
I think the right guy got the decision, thats what really matters
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Originally Posted by No Contest
Lacierva thinks he should have won, and so did the crowd, but it was close up until the last round, so he does have arguement considering the scores.
when it's a Mexican crowd, they're usually gonna pull for the Mexican. That's kinda how it usually works.
Caballero won in just about everybodys opinion, but the scores were waay off.
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by No Contest
Martine 115-112 Ramos 116-111 Garcia 116-110 UD for Celestino Caballero
YES!!! Way to go judges!!! 6 points in the bank, I'm clawing them back now!
Get in! That teabag gets to survive another day! I also had Caballero UD, both in the prediction league and in the sportsbook, so double joy on that one. Now wins for Marquez and Diaz will make me a happy bunny.
Hey my Welsh buddy, I'm on for Marquez and Diaz KO's too. I was beginning to think I was the only person who was going to cheering on Diaz in the upcoming rbr and hoping he sends Morales off on a stretcher, glad I won't be the only hater in the room ;D
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Originally Posted by Galaxy.
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Those scores are criminal....There should be an investigation....F'IN BULLS***....
I can see Caballero winning by a point or two even 3 but 116-110 116-111......
A disgrace.....This crap is killing boxing
I think the right guy got the decision, thats what really matters
No what really matters is that the hobbit got his 6 points :P
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by No Contest
Martine 115-112 Ramos 116-111 Garcia 116-110 UD for Celestino Caballero
YES!!! Way to go judges!!! 6 points in the bank, I'm clawing them back now!
Get in! That teabag gets to survive another day! I also had Caballero UD, both in the prediction league and in the sportsbook, so double joy on that one. Now wins for Marquez and Diaz will make me a happy bunny.
Hey my Welsh buddy, I'm on for Marquez and Diaz KO's too. I was beginning to think I was the only person who was going to cheering on Diaz in the upcoming rbr and hoping he sends Morales off on a stretcher, glad I won't be the only hater in the room ;D
I'm pulling for Diaz, as well. Somebody needs to put Morales out of his misery and make him retire before Manny Pacquio's team tries to set up another fight with him and call it some kind of "mega-fight."
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Re: Vasquez Vs. Marquez and Caballero Vs. Lacierva RBR
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
ROBBED!!!!!
There was no robbery here.
The scores were total bullshit (obviously) but I (and most people that follow boxing ;)) had Caballero by a round or two.
the score card was a robbery 116-110!!!! (most people that follow boxing knows that)
I had Lcierva up by one point. because of the point taken from Lacierva, but there should of been a point taken out from CC too, that alone proves CC lost.
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by No Contest
Martine 115-112 Ramos 116-111 Garcia 116-110 UD for Celestino Caballero
YES!!! Way to go judges!!! 6 points in the bank, I'm clawing them back now!
Get in! That teabag gets to survive another day! I also had Caballero UD, both in the prediction league and in the sportsbook, so double joy on that one. Now wins for Marquez and Diaz will make me a happy bunny.
Hey my Welsh buddy, I'm on for Marquez and Diaz KO's too. I was beginning to think I was the only person who was going to cheering on Diaz in the upcoming rbr and hoping he sends Morales off on a stretcher, glad I won't be the only hater in the room ;D
I'm pulling for Diaz, as well. Somebody needs to put Morales out of his misery and make him retire before Manny Pacquio's team tries to set up another fight with him and call it some kind of "mega-fight."
Shi* man, Morales has been in a lot of brutal fights, and he has given a lot to the sport, and of course he wants the chance to go out as a champion, I just think he's set his sights too high with Diaz.