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Chevez Jnr what do we think??
I think this guy is basically poooooooooh, i saw his fight last night against the journeyman who looked about 4 weight classes below Chevez, he threw the kitchen sink at him and some more and the guy wasnt even stunned never mind hurt, what do you guys think?
Im not sure what his whiskers are like but if that small man Brown kept coming after feeling Chevez's shots hit the spot time and time again, i think someone like Gomez will probably be to much for him, from what i saw last night this guy will never be world class imo.
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Re: Chevez Jnr what do we think??
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Originally Posted by skel1983
I think this guy is basically poooooooooh, i saw his fight last night against the journeyman who looked about 4 weight classes below Chevez, he threw the kitchen sink at him and some more and the guy wasnt even stunned never mind hurt, what do you guys think?
Im not sure what his whiskers are like but if that small man Brown kept coming after feeling Chevez's shots hit the spot time and time again, i think someone like Gomez will probably be to much for him, from what i saw last night this guy will never be world class imo.
This kid is VERY young still and they are doing everything right with him...They know he needs to grow into his body yet and lacks the power thats why he has not been rushed into anything....Lets face it just on his name they could have had him a title shot by now with the way the system is set up.....
They will conntinue to do what they are...until this kid is ready for the big stage.....
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Re: Chevez Jnr what do we think??
He is going to have to step up sometime soon, i know they are nursing him along but he has had over 30 fights and needs to fight somebody in the top 15 at least by the end of the year.
Collazo, Rodriguez, Quintana all come to mind. The WBC have him in the top 10 so let's really see what the kid can do!
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i think that he looked good, ok he didn't really hurt him but he beat the shit out of him, i mean he kept his cool and stuck to his gameplan, the way i see it, Chavez Jr. who didn't have an amateur career and fought a journeyman did so more impressively than Juanma Lopez who also fought a journeyman but was a member of the Puerto Rican National boxing team
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Re: Chevez Jnr what do we think??
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
He is going to have to step up sometime soon, i know they are nursing him along but he has had over 30 fights and needs to fight somebody in the top 15 at least by the end of the year.
Collazo, Rodriguez, Quintana all come to mind. The WBC have him in the top 10 so let's really see what the kid can do!
Don't know who Rodriguez is, but Collazo or Quintana would just have a field day with him. I want to see him in against Gomez. I think he can really shine in that matchup.
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Re: Chevez Jnr what do we think??
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
He is going to have to step up sometime soon, i know they are nursing him along but he has had over 30 fights and needs to fight somebody in the top 15 at least by the end of the year.
Collazo, Rodriguez, Quintana all come to mind. The WBC have him in the top 10 so let's really see what the kid can do!
chavez jr is basicly fighting his amateur career right now. don't expect him to do anything big anytime soon.
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Aint he like the same age as Rey boom boom, but his not in the same level. Rey bautista is a rare 20 year old.
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
Aint he like the same age as Rey boom boom, but his not in the same level. Rey bautista is a rare 20 year old.
Daniel Ponce DeLeon will expose Bautista as the glorified prospect that he is.
I have nothing against Rey, but he's getting thrown to the wolves way too early. He needed a couple more years (at least) to be thrown into a fight of this magnitude. Bad move by GBP.
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Re: Chevez Jnr what do we think??
He is nothing more than another US hype
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
Aint he like the same age as Rey boom boom, but his not in the same level. Rey bautista is a rare 20 year old.
Daniel Ponce DeLeon will expose Bautista as the glorified prospect that he is.
I have nothing against Rey, but he's getting thrown to the wolves way too early. He needed a couple more years (at least) to be thrown into a fight of this magnitude. Bad move by GBP.
that could be the case, I actually mention that before. A 20 year old like rey should be pounding on tune up fighters. But his getting big fights already, what if he wins thats why I stay confident. Boom Boom could be that damn good at this early age, and he'll just get even better so its a win-win situation for boom boom, i guess.
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Re: Chevez Jnr what do we think??
or he could just get ruined mentally ala Trinidad vs. Vargas :-\
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I don't expect him to have a title shot any time soon but he does need to step it up. Fight some real contenders. 30+ fights is enough to go to the next level.
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Originally Posted by Peter Plys 44
He is nothing more than another US hype
Except He MEXICAN AND LIVES IN MEXICO>>>>
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by Peter Plys 44
He is nothing more than another US hype
Except He MEXICAN AND LIVES IN MEXICO>>>>
You're missing the point, ANYONE that fights or has fought in the US is over-rated, according
to this tweener wonder.
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Re: Chevez Jnr what do we think??
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Originally Posted by killersheep
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by Peter Plys 44
He is nothing more than another US hype
Except He MEXICAN AND LIVES IN MEXICO>>>>
You're missing the point, ANYONE that fights or has fought in the US is over-rated, according
to this tweener wonder.
:-[ Sorry KS I got it now....Won't make that mistake again... ;)
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Re: Chevez Jnr what do we think??
If his father isn't who he is we'd never have heard of him. Let's wait till he fills out and fights somebody decent till we write him off, but he doesn't look to be anything special.
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He's oppositon has been so horrible that this kid is the same as a fighter that is only 9-0 or so, it's hard to have any opinion of him yet.
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Originally Posted by Mar
He's oppositon has been so horrible that this kid is the same as a fighter that is only 9-0 or so, it's hard to have any opinion of him yet.
Agreed, but he's only 21 if I'm not mistaken, most guys don't start stepping up at that age.
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yea i agree he doesn't look special. So far his only as good as his oppenents.
hey is jcc family broke or something? I hear they need jr to help out the family ???
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It's difficult to criticise him at this moment. He's young,has had no amatuer fights so is still maturing and learning the basics but he has to do it in the pros,in front of the media. He can do well but not at this weight. Way too much competition.
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Re: Chevez Jnr what do we think??
Granted his opponents haven't been that good, but his punches look very crisp and he makes it a point of going to the body. When he get's a guy in trouble he's very composed and seems to have an idea of what he wants to do. I would definatley like to see his competition go up, which I think it will. There seems to be talk of the Gomez or Malignaggi next. Gomez would seem like the more logical choice. Paulie would be a too much of a step up in class.
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Originally Posted by the wiz
Granted his opponents haven't been that good, but his punches look very crisp and he makes it a point of going to the body. When he get's a guy in trouble he's very composed and seems to have an idea of what he wants to do. I would definatley like to see his competition go up, which I think it will. There seems to be talk of the Gomez or Malignaggi next. Gomez would seem like the more logical choice. Paulie would be a too much of a step up in class.
CC, Wiz... hit the nail on the head!
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Re: Chevez Jnr what do we think??
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Originally Posted by skel1983
I think this guy is basically poooooooooh, i saw his fight last night against the journeyman who looked about 4 weight classes below Chevez, he threw the kitchen sink at him and some more and the guy wasnt even stunned never mind hurt, what do you guys think?
Im not sure what his whiskers are like but if that small man Brown kept coming after feeling Chevez's shots hit the spot time and time again, i think someone like Gomez will probably be to much for him, from what i saw last night this guy will never be world class imo.
Decent fighter has good outside game but doesn't use it nearly enough Wiley was able to back him into ropes few times and bang away Chavez Jr does not use his height advantage enough and thats first big problem right there other than that i was quite impressed he certainly has some good body shots like his father.
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i'm impressed with his temperment and also his patience, and well like i said he fought with a bum, but so did Lopez and i thought Chavez Jr. put on a better performance than Lopez did
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
i'm impressed with his temperment and also his patience, and well like i said he fought with a bum, but so did Lopez and i thought Chavez Jr. put on a better performance than Lopez did
Youn know what i think he has a very entertaining style and he puts his punches together really nicely, but i just have this sneaky feeling he gets exposed when he meets someone who backs him up, i hope im wrong his Dad's a legend and like i say he is quite exciting to watch, do you think his future lies at 147 or 154?? He is only young and he is a big lad.
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to tell you the truth i think it's gonna be 154 and higher, cause he looked pretty skinny on saturday, and the fight was at 154, plus he's 6 ft something i believe they said on the fight, and well i think that his frame alone wont let him get down to welter, and if he can it wont be for very long, i think that's why they got him out of 140 so quickly
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what if we said "Chavez Jr vs. De La Hoya" in 2010, 3 yrs down the road. Chavez Jr. retires De La Hoya in grand fashion. wouldnt that be nice.
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Originally Posted by the wiz
Granted his opponents haven't been that good, but his punches look very crisp and he makes it a point of going to the body. When he get's a guy in trouble he's very composed and seems to have an idea of what he wants to do. I would definatley like to see his competition go up, which I think it will. There seems to be talk of the Gomez or Malignaggi next. Gomez would seem like the more logical choice. Paulie would be a too much of a step up in class.
i'm hoping to see a Chavez-Maglignaggi fight soon. hopefully it'll end in a double KO in the 1st round. ;D
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Considering he didn't have any amateur fights he's really not that bad.
But he isn't fighting anybody like Collazo or Quintana anytime soon, that would be stupidity.
Like Amat said, Gomez wouldn't be bad but even there, I don't that's likely.
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I think if he steps in with Malinaggi anytime soon he will get an education.....I know he does not have the strength to KO Paulie...If Cotto couldn't Jr won't.....I don't think he can outbox him either
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Re: Chevez Jnr what do we think??
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Originally Posted by amat
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
He is going to have to step up sometime soon, i know they are nursing him along but he has had over 30 fights and needs to fight somebody in the top 15 at least by the end of the year.
Collazo, Rodriguez, Quintana all come to mind. The WBC have him in the top 10 so let's really see what the kid can do!
Don't know who Rodriguez is, but Collazo or Quintana would just have a field day with him. I want to see him in against Gomez. I think he can really shine in that matchup.
Rodriguez lost a UD to Baldomir a couple of years ago and has a good record, has not fought this year so he might be done. As for Collazo and Quintana having a field day with Jr, you could be right but this is what we want to find out, neither of those guys are going to be World Champs so maybe it's time to see if Jr has what it takes to be a future World Champ himself.
I see a fight like this being made for him early next year! Gomez would be good.
