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"The Contender"... Finally legit!!!!!!!!!!
Is anyone more excited then you've been for any season of the contender... There're mostly legit fighters and really nice prospects... plus full fights will be aired...
Here's the lineup!
Max Alexander (26, Camden, N.J., 14-1, 2 KOs).
• David Banks (24, Portland, Ore., 14-2-1, 2 KOs).
• Sakio Bika (28, Sydney, Australia, via Cameroon, 22-3-2, 14 KOs).
• Henry "Sugar Poo" Buchanan (28, Capital Heights, Md., 14-1, 11 KOs).
• La Farrell Bunting (27, Las Vegas, 16-3-1, 16 KOs).
• Jaidon Codrington (23, New York, 16-1, 12 KOs).
• Miguel Hernandez (32, Chicago, 20-5, 10 KOs).
• Wayne Johnson (29, Lyndhurst, N.J., 16-1, 9 KOs).
• Donny McCrary (24, St. Joseph, Mo., 23-5-2, 13 KOs).
• Les Ralston (25, Buffalo, N.Y., 16-2, 9 KOs).
• Danny Santiago (34, Ocala, Fla., 29-3-1, 19 KOs).
• Paul Smith (24, Liverpool, England, 20-0, 12 KOs).
• Sam Soliman (33, Melbourne, Australia, 33-9, 13 KOs).
• Brian Vera (26, Austin, Texas, 14-0, 9 KOs).
• Rhoshii Wells (30, Las Vegas, 18-2-2, 10 KOs).
• Rubin Williams (31, Detroit, 29-2-1, 16 KOs).
I'm excited about Jaidon and Paul Smith!
I also like Banks... He took Manfredo to school in the first 3rd of the fight!
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I'm not happy about Bika being in the mix. I've seen and heard enough of about him to last me a lifetime.
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Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
I'm not happy about Bika being in the mix. I've seen and heard enough of about him to last me a lifetime.
I tend to agree... I think he is gonna give a buntch of these guys fits... If you can beat up on The Pride of Wales then you pretty much can mix it up with anyone at SMW!
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I'll get excited when they do away with the hokey over produced theme of the show...Make the show about tough fighters and great fights not the overdrawn cliches of the inner city kid done well or family man winning one for his mother who has cancer and raised him as a single parent working three jobs etc etc
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Originally Posted by VanChilds
I'll get excited when they do away with the hokey over produced theme of the show...Make the show about tough fighters and great fights not the overdrawn cliches of the inner city kid done well or family man winning one for his mother who has cancer and raised him as a single parent working three jobs etc etc
They were trying to mainstream it by making it into a soap opera... But thats not boxing... I'm glad ESPN took the reigns!
CC Vans!
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Originally Posted by VanChilds
I'll get excited when they do away with the hokey over produced theme of the show...Make the show about tough fighters and great fights not the overdrawn cliches of the inner city kid done well or family man winning one for his mother who has cancer and raised him as a single parent working three jobs etc etc
LOL times are tough when cancer no longer tugs at our heart strings.
Big Deal. Cancer... What's cancer in 2007?! LOL
;D
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Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
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Originally Posted by VanChilds
I'll get excited when they do away with the hokey over produced theme of the show...Make the show about tough fighters and great fights not the overdrawn cliches of the inner city kid done well or family man winning one for his mother who has cancer and raised him as a single parent working three jobs etc etc
LOL times are tough when cancer no longer tugs at our heart strings.
Big Deal. Cancer... What's cancer in 2007?! LOL
;D
Nah, you know what he's sayin... The soap operaesk undertone and feel of the show
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Its not that they haven't had some compelling stories...I just made up the cancer part to make a point...I just want to see fights without the overhyped and produced story lines.
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Originally Posted by VanChilds
Its not that they haven't had some compelling stories...I just made up the cancer part to make a point...I just want to see fights without the overhyped and produced story lines.
Careful you don't want 'Big' Dan McCarthy seeing this, he'll think you're disturbed and may even give you the finger ;)
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Originally Posted by VanChilds
Its not that they haven't had some compelling stories...I just made up the cancer part to make a point...I just want to see fights without the overhyped and produced story lines.
Sad that they have to do that shit to sell boxing to fans and try to win them back but the sport hasn't been doing its self any favors for the last.... What... 30 years!
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by VanChilds
Its not that they haven't had some compelling stories...I just made up the cancer part to make a point...I just want to see fights without the overhyped and produced story lines.
Careful you don't want 'Big' Dan McCarthy seeing this, he'll think you're disturbed and may even give you the finger ;)
Not that, lol! ;D
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I think David Banks has a great shot at this... Great speed and due to the length of the fights, if this kid poors it on I don't see him losing! Great Prospect with strangly enough little amatuer experience.
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Originally Posted by VanChilds
I'll get excited when they do away with the hokey over produced theme of the show...Make the show about tough fighters and great fights not the overdrawn cliches of the inner city kid done well or family man winning one for his mother who has cancer and raised him as a single parent working three jobs etc etc
;D
Dont let anyone tell you otherwise, that is funny and true.
Nice update Boston I haven't followed the Contender and had no idea how much they've improved upon it.
But no more slow-mo and sound effects ??? How are we supposed to know if a punch landed without sound effects?
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Originally Posted by dasamm
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Originally Posted by VanChilds
I'll get excited when they do away with the hokey over produced theme of the show...Make the show about tough fighters and great fights not the overdrawn cliches of the inner city kid done well or family man winning one for his mother who has cancer and raised him as a single parent working three jobs etc etc
;D
Dont let anyone tell you otherwise, that is funny and true.
Nice update Boston I haven't followed the Contender and had no idea how much they've improved upon it.
But no more slow-mo and sound effects ??? How are we supposed to know if a punch landed without sound effects?
You'll never know when they're landing shots... Guess we should listen to Jim Lamply... Shit, he doesn't even know ;D
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Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
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Originally Posted by VanChilds
I'll get excited when they do away with the hokey over produced theme of the show...Make the show about tough fighters and great fights not the overdrawn cliches of the inner city kid done well or family man winning one for his mother who has cancer and raised him as a single parent working three jobs etc etc
LOL times are tough when cancer no longer tugs at our heart strings.
Big Deal. Cancer... What's cancer in 2007?! LOL
;D
Sorry BG, but you gotta be harsh in this game, and if there aren't at least three different types of cancer attacking three seperate parts of the body, my sympathy will have to be won.
Now then, maybe if it was a family man whose wife and mother had cancer...and he was raising their 7 children (at least one adopted) and caring for wife and mum, whilst still boxing professionally, then my sympathy is won.
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yeh that Sakio Bika is one dirty twat and I'm looking forward to see P. Smith on a big stage instead of the Olympia and let's see if the only brit can win it.
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Sounds like a decent round up. I'd like to see how they fight and their contrasting styles. If they all mesh pretty decent, I think it'd be a pretty successful season.
Glad they are finally showing the whole fights. They should go into the mentality of the boxing, way of life. People will find out how crazy these guys really are. They look normal on the outside, but keep pressing and you'll find out that boxers are nuts! Show some new training, every fighter trains different... and show some sparring wars, the drama and competition in the gyms run deep.
Even do weigh-ins... maybe someone will pull a Barrera and sucker punch the other guy. haha That would draw attention.
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It is great to see that an Aussie and a Pom get a shot at this show. What is wrong with Sakio? Apart from him not being an American? I would love to see Sammy win, if not i would be happy to see Bika or the Pommy fella win. It should be better with the slightly bigger blokes. ;)
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Legit?
Maybe comparing them to the best US fighters as Green and Manfrado but comparing them to world class boxers as Kessler, Calzaghe and Mundine the show is just another stupid US TV Show
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Originally Posted by Peter Plys 44
Legit?
Maybe comparing them to the best US fighters as Green and Manfrado but comparing them to world class boxers as Kessler, Calzaghe and Mundine the show is just another stupid US TV Show
Congratulations on completely missing the point. It's about grizzled vets and young fighters get some good training, then fight off against each other until the best guy comes through, and that guy will be a contender in the division.
It's not about putting three or four world champions in there...because by definition they're not 'contenders'.
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Originally Posted by Peter Plys 44
Legit?
Maybe comparing them to the best US fighters as Green and Manfrado but comparing them to world class boxers as Kessler, Calzaghe and Mundine the show is just another stupid US TV Show
Best??? Ever heard of some guys named Floyd Mayweather, Bernard Hopkins, Jermain Taylor, Winky Wright, Shane Mosely and Oscar Delahoya to name a few....They are all American in case you weren't aware...The show is called contender not champion, so what type of talent level would you expect.
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by Peter Plys 44
Legit?
Maybe comparing them to the best US fighters as Green and Manfrado but comparing them to world class boxers as Kessler, Calzaghe and Mundine the show is just another stupid US TV Show
Congratulations on completely missing the point. It's about grizzled vets and young fighters get some good training, then fight off against each other until the best guy comes through, and that guy will be a contender in the division.
It's not about putting three or four world champions in there...because by definition they're not 'contenders'.
Young Fighters like Sam Soliman?
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by Peter Plys 44
Legit?
Maybe comparing them to the best US fighters as Green and Manfrado but comparing them to world class boxers as Kessler, Calzaghe and Mundine the show is just another stupid US TV Show
Congratulations on completely missing the point. It's about grizzled vets and young fighters get some good training, then fight off against each other until the best guy comes through, and that guy will be a contender in the division.
It's not about putting three or four world champions in there...because by definition they're not 'contenders'.
Another good US contender like Peter M?
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Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
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Originally Posted by VanChilds
I'll get excited when they do away with the hokey over produced theme of the show...Make the show about tough fighters and great fights not the overdrawn cliches of the inner city kid done well or family man winning one for his mother who has cancer and raised him as a single parent working three jobs etc etc
LOL times are tough when cancer no longer tugs at our heart strings.
Big Deal. Cancer... What's cancer in 2007?! LOL
;D
I just hope they do away with the over editted fights and stop showing the family reactions half the freaking fight! Looks like they got a better crop of fighter this time tho.
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Originally Posted by Peter Plys 44
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by Peter Plys 44
Legit?
Maybe comparing them to the best US fighters as Green and Manfrado but comparing them to world class boxers as Kessler, Calzaghe and Mundine the show is just another stupid US TV Show
Congratulations on completely missing the point. It's about grizzled vets and young fighters get some good training, then fight off against each other until the best guy comes through, and that guy will be a contender in the division.
It's not about putting three or four world champions in there...because by definition they're not 'contenders'.
Another good US contender like Peter M?
Where are you from Peter?
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Originally Posted by Peter Plys 44
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by Peter Plys 44
Legit?
Maybe comparing them to the best US fighters as Green and Manfrado but comparing them to world class boxers as Kessler, Calzaghe and Mundine the show is just another stupid US TV Show
Congratulations on completely missing the point.
It's about grizzled vets and young fighters get some good training, then fight off against each other until the best guy comes through, and that guy will be a contender in the division.
It's not about putting three or four world champions in there...because by definition they're not 'contenders'.
Young Fighters like Sam Soliman?
Read what i wrote again.
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having Buddy McGirt as one of the trainers for the next 2 seasons gives it a little more credability to me. the younger fighters should definately benefit in training and having him in their corner during fights.
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Originally Posted by Peter Plys 44
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by Peter Plys 44
Legit?
Maybe comparing them to the best US fighters as Green and Manfrado but comparing them to world class boxers as Kessler, Calzaghe and Mundine the show is just another stupid US TV Show
Congratulations on completely missing the point. It's about grizzled vets and young fighters get some good training, then fight off against each other until the best guy comes through, and that guy will be a contender in the division.
It's not about putting three or four world champions in there...because by definition they're not 'contenders'.
Another good US contender like Peter M?
Manfredo didn't win his series of the show, he fell by the wayside. Pay attention and have some sort of idea what you're on about if you're going to comment about stuff.
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well pleased about smith,and surprised.nobody claims these guys are the best around,that really isnt the point.Great news they are showing full fights,i hope we dont see their families,sly etc at all,especially not during the fight,i dont need to see sylvester stallone wince to tell me it was a hard shot!so with this line up,full fights,no background music,no family shots and no punch sound effects this should be as good as we hoped the contender would be when we first heard about it
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Originally Posted by Peter Plys 44
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by Peter Plys 44
Legit?
Maybe comparing them to the best US fighters as Green and Manfrado but comparing them to world class boxers as Kessler, Calzaghe and Mundine the show is just another stupid US TV Show
Congratulations on completely missing the point. It's about grizzled vets and young fighters get some good training, then fight off against each other until the best guy comes through, and that guy will be a contender in the division.
It's not about putting three or four world champions in there...because by definition they're not 'contenders'.
Young Fighters like Sam Soliman?
Soliman would be a grizzled vet now wouldn't he Peter, c'mon man think..and use your ears next time or is every post you write targeted with the specific intent of making you look as big an idiot as possible?
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Get rid of the stupid 5 rounders.... no wonder these "contenders" can't compete with the pros...
.... they spend over a year training in the 4 rounder amatuer system.
10 rounds!!!!!! These are solid fighters, ready for the ten!
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Wow, it's nice to see some of the names on the list. :o
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The contender has grown on me, I think that the are improving it a great deal.
And I am actually looking forward Sam "Drunken Monkey Style" Solimon and
Sakio "Head First" Bika in action against questionable opponents.
I also appreciate the fact that this series brings boxing to the mainstream
public, most of whom only recognize 2-3 fights a year at this point
(At least in America)
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Im really excited about this lineup. I mean look at that list, its actually got a few non-americans (not bashing just happy about it) with good records i might add and an actual name (Saiko Bika) who a few might well of heard of after the JC fight.
Think about it out of all those tought grizzled vets and young hungry fighters there can only be ONE WINNER ;D
Tell me the thought don't just get you pumped. Hopefully the way the show is done (youve all mentioned it already) will be improved but i think ESPN will do the solid job they nearly always do on sports.
BRING IT ON ;D
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CC Killersheep "HeadFirst" LOL ;D
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CC Killersheep "HeadFirst" LOL ;D
Killer should add a bet in his sportsbook about how many times the phrase "It ain't a tea party in there" is used during Sakio Bika's fights on the show!
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Paul Smith to win, anyone want a wager :-*