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Record Book
Section: Baseball
1 - 1st pitch......................
1.1 - 1st hit.......................
1.2 - 1st man to reach base.........
1.2.1
and so on and so on
900.4.1 - Most homeruns *Barry Bonds
900.4.1.1 - * Denotes Bonds used illegal substances to acquire this feat.
Julio Caesar Chavez *107-6-2
* Denotes Chavez beat nothing but bums :lickish:
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Originally Posted by smashcrusher
and robbed a few good ones ;)
Fixed it for 'ya.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashcrusher
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LOL.. You guys are crazy ;)
Well, I cant hate on Bonds, even if he did use the roids...he's not the only offender. Doesnt make it right, but when you see guys like McGuire and Sosa , jacking 60+ a year...Baseball is to blame not Barry, they probably let alot of stuff slide , just to keep the boost in popularity.
That was fucken awesome and I'm SO GLAD he did it at home. What made it even more awesome was Hank Aaron congratulating Bonds on the screen. Before the last two games, Michael Jordan and Muhammad Ali had done the same thing. Hank did it after, very classy and graceful by Hank and Bonds seemed appreciative. And I'm glad Frank Robinson was there instead of Selig. Awesome night, one that I'll never forget. I have tickets to the last two games of this homestand I think I might decline though, would have been cool to see him do it live but honestly, watching it period was just awesome. Great stuff.
Hell Sugar Shane Mosley done them too, His name was on the list with a lot of other sporting athletes. Hell Roids is wrong, But they should not criticize Bonds until they are 100%, And then they should take away all the homeruns after that date that he did take them, if he is found guilty
#1 Fuck Barry Bonds
#2 How is his status in the game better than Pete Rose's both of them did stuff against the rules of the MLB?
Come on Lyle....Allegedly using steroids in an era where batters and pitchers alike are juiced and betting on games that you are managing are not the same thing...If it was up to me though I put Pete in the Hall tomorrow.
ALLEGEDLY?????? There's nothing alleged about the way his numbers jump up AFTER he peaked in 1993 with his home runs....now he was in his prime in that era and mid 40's to maybe low 50's but to go on and wait until 2001 to hit 73 having never touched 50 or 60...it's beyond suspicious
93: 46
94: 37
95: 33
96: 42
97: 40
98: 37
99: 34
00: 49
01: 73
If there is one number that jumps out at you what would it be? It seems like mid 40's to high 30's is expected but in 2001 he skipped over the 50's and 60's and just hit 73 home runs....and that's ok because he just hit his prime at 37 YEARS OLD!!!
Pete Rose just was a crappy manager and crappy gambler he's still a great ballplayer. And Bonds would have been a great ball player had he not used steroids but that and the fact he's an asshole just means I hate him I think he's a piece of shit and if I was able to bring 90+ MPH heat I'd hit him in his gigantic head!
I have no respect for Bonds, I have no respect for A-Rod....I have some respect for Pete Rose because the way he played the game.
I dont really know what not hitting 50-60 hrs ever has to do with anything...People have great statistical years out of the blue all the time..Remember Brady Anderson...great two years then nothing...I only said allegedly b/c even with the evidence otherwise he's never tested positive. I understand not liking him personally, but I don't understand why people expect athletes to all be role models and mister nice guy..If Barry wants to have a more private persona and not cater to the media then I support him...He obviuosly isn't the most social person, but as I've said before I don't need him to be Mr. Sunshine just jack a long one when I go to the park. Just curious how do you feel about clemens?
Nobody has to like it,but during that era baseball wasnt testing for steroids,and wasnt suspending for it.
But for almost a 100 years the cardinal rule of baseball,that all players and managers are told when they get to the bigs is,dont bet on games
Actually...there was absolutely no direct steroid policy ever in baseball. The first time there ever was a few years ago where they tested everyone annonomously and said that if over 5 percent tested positive that they would implement steroid testing. This was during the fear of another baseball lockout. I think it was 4.2 that tested positive. Then nothing happened until the Balco stuff broke and Selig, Fehr and the other commissioners/union leaders went in front of Congress.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Rose meanwhile broke something that has been a rule since the Blacksox tarnished the World Series and damn near killed baseball.
Brady Anderson was a juicer too....never hit over 20 homeruns before or after hitting 50!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by VanChilds
perhaps steroids explains how Jeremy Giambi was able to stay in the game for so long when he was in reality a lifetime AAA player without the roids!
It's not your personality it's HOW YOU PLAY THE GAME!...Ty Cobb was a bastard but he played harder than anyone else which is why he has my respect. Ted Williams could be mean too but he worked hard and his dedication earns him my respect.
Barry gets off on having people not like him....he does things and says things deliberately to piss people off and the way he does it really makes me mad. He gets people good and pissed off at him and then he plays the victim...it's a bullshit move
And yet he still has achieved more glory than you and your entire family will ever imagine sniffing :lickish:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
He was a great all around player, you cant take away from that. He still has one of the sweetest swings in baseball.
Barry's Homerun ball is worth less than we thought! By Forbes.com
Sports memorabilia collectors aren't exactly looking ahead with rabid enthusiasm to Barry Bonds' record 756th home run ball hitting the auction market.
Now that Bonds has passed Henry Aaron's career home run mark, memorabilia dealers are resigned to the reality that the historic ball won't be worth nearly what they would have expected a few years ago. And steroid suspicions, which have cast a pall over the accomplishments of the recent crop of home run hitters, are only part of the story.
A market that was already bubbling over thanks to the dizzying pre-steroids hype that surrounded the Mark McGwire-Sammy Sosa chase of Roger Maris' single season home run record in 1998 has crash-landed with a loud thump.
The $3 million that McGwire's 70th home run ball fetched that year is now estimated at less than $1 million. The fastball that Bonds smashed over the fence in right center field at AT&T Park for career homer No. 756 figures to go for about $500,000, according to auction house experts. That's far less than what they would have guessed a few years ago, not to mention $150,000 below what Aaron's 755th went for in the mid-'90s.
The Bonds ball was retrieved by Matt Murphy, a 22-year-old from Queens, N.Y.
Yes but he took roids on top of that and he and McGwire and Sosa have destroyed some of the most hallowed records in baseball.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
Barry would have been a great player anyways but with the steroids.....he just seems greedy to me....he wants to be celebrated like some sort of baseball god and with the way he plays now he's no 5 tool player and he hasn't been one since the mid 90's.
If anyone from this era broke the record the same questions would have been raised.....Barry just exacerbated the situation because of his attitude and his aura of entitlement......if I have kids I don't want them playing any sport like Barry Bonds has played baseball, not that he's not good but he doesn't play the game with respect and he doesn't play in a way that garners respect from fans.
300+ home runs after hitting 30 years old....more than he hit in his 20's
Kind of seems a double standard Lyle...The hitters taking roids should be villified but the numerous pitchers rumored to have taken steroid get off free? People I know that are that involved in MLB have told me that steroid use was very prevalent in pitching staffs, but do to the thinning out of pitching staffs and use of multiple middle relievers you just don't see the gawdy stats like you do with hitters
....hey if they did it then they are just as guilty....ANYONE who takes steroids is a cheater in MLB and any other sport that has rules against the use of those substances.
You know what you're probably right but I don't cheat and I don't break the rules to improve my status in society....I could do some crooked shit and make millions but I'd rather EARN what I work for instead of just having it fucking handed to me because I cheated.Quote:
Originally Posted by skyler
But maybe that's just me