F8ck me these dogs can have a tear-up :o
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F8ck me these dogs can have a tear-up :o
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...arch&plindex=0
CC smash
this documentary is really informative
a fucking good watch
Great find Smash I owe you big on this one, I'm doing a report on pitbulls its due in a week.
:coolclick: Brotha
kat i think beat me to +759 so mine is the +760
did ya watch it all julius???
anybody have anything more about pit-bulls and the issue of their bad reputation let me know because i have this paper i need to turn in addressing pit bull issues.
most of the public only knows about the urban pitbulls in the city. The cross-breed pitbulls most are mix with labs. They dont know about the blue pit bulls that are bigger and less aggressive. They don't know about the pure breeds, the staffordshire terrier and the responsible breeders that knows the truth about the real Pit-bulls. The media mess up the pitbulls image by making it out to be a monster dog. just like how they did the germen shepard and the rottweirer when those dogs were as popular as the pitbull is now. Also those scums that train these dogs to be brutal, I think we need to protect all pitbull dogs from irresponsible asswhole people.
no not yet, why kat?Quote:
Originally Posted by katfight
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
u really need to watch all of it
no fast forwarding or owt
have a pen and pad to hand because it gives some of the most informative info ive eva heard
serious wen i saw the thread i werent even gonna bother
you dont give it justice smash -----i thought it was just gonnabe full of dogs fighting
but it isnt it give history etc....................
yea its a great documentary, sorry kat I have already fastforwarded a bit. I fast forwarded the beggining cause i'm confident that I have already learn the pit-bulls history where it started from the english. I want to know more about the urban pit-bulls the fighting scenes and little gatherings these guys have. I have been in a cock pit, where they fight rosters but I have never seen dog fighting areas. Theres a guy in the film talking about that they are professional about the sport of dog fighting, I'm not buying into it. Because they reject the dogs right after they lose, they don't go trying to treat it or give it a proper burial when one dies. They just discard the dogs like toys, I know of cock pits that when the roster lose the winner takes the roster home to eat it. Everyone eats chicken, thats a different story these are dogs. They are suppose to be mans best friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by katfight
Anyways I pause the film and refresh this page to check if you have replied kat but i'm going to go watch the rest of the film now. talk to you later ;)
hey smash do you know anyway I can download this film so it can help me present? I will credit you and the link for the help.
no this talks about the american history how it got its name everything
bull dogs cus they used to fight bulls!!! :o
then pit because wen they startedto fite other dogs it was inside a pit
and american(4 the APB) cus it was a mascot in a war that saved mes lives
sanyway i'll chat to u bout it l8r
i no wat u mea u see some sick fuck electrocute his dog 2death cus it refuses to fite(called a quiter)
o don't care what anyone says about any pure breeds and half breeeds, etc.., pit bulls cannot be trusted period. with that said, it doesn't give those lowlife f'in douchebags the right to fight them. they should be executed and the breed made illegal to own, breed, etc. I mean, how many little kids have to be mauled before the laws are changed. other animals kill people but we typically don't "own" them.
Von I can understand why you think that way. See if you know any real responsible true Pit-bull owners you will know what I know. See the Pitbull your thinking about is the urban pit-bulls mix in with other breeds. did you know if a pitbull gets mix in with a lab. The very excited side of a lab combine with the courage of pitbulls result it a dangerous dog that can have the learning brain of the lab, and the toughness of pitbull. Those are the dogs that these guys can train to fight. They get that excited to please side of the lab so when a human trains them to chew on tires or chase and beat on Pigs they learn to love it because of the mixture of breed. When these kinds of dogs fall in the wrong hands they get use as weapons. They are not the True American Pitbull Terrier nor are they the English Staffordshire Terrier or any staffordshire terrier. See most people just knows the name pitbull but they don't know anything about Staffordshire Terriers. They are actually identical difference is size. If they knew the truth about pitbulls they will know those dogs they are calling pitbulls are mix dogs with pitbull looks. Thats the point of these people mix breeding those dogs, they want the look of pits so they can call it that but they corrupt the breed with others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Von Milash
I hope you can meet one of those real pure pitbulls, if you ever meet those pure breed. You will understand how tainted the pitbull breed have gotten because of irresponsible dog owners with the help of the media blowing things up.
Did you know smaller dogs are more aggressive then big dogs, because smaller dogs tend to be insecure they tend to bite a lot more then big dogs do.
Did you know dogs instictively follows a leader. That leader is the dog owner, what ever the dog owners teaches it, thats what that dog is going to love to do.
Did you know your more likely to be killed by lightning then a pitbull? the media makes it seems like any time you see a pitbull your in danger. Which is total b.s.
if you need further convincing that you may be wrong with what you said about banning the breed, I will help you change your mind.
It's simple really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rain
1. Click on the 'Google' button thats on the screen
(That will take you to the Google site)
2. To the right of the screen theres a button that read 'Download' click on that.
and that's it. ;) It will ask you where in your PC do you want to save the file you can choose any folder you wan't or just take note of what folder it is set to.
I watched this yesterday while monging out on my bed and the missus actually started crying when she saw the dog getting electrocuted at the end.
If my Rotty-German Shepherd cross got the first bite in he'd break it's back easily (strongest ever recorded bite of any dog - 328 cubic pounds of pressure) ;)
Thing is pitbulls are so quick they'd more than likely get in first then it's game over.
Some stupid bitch had a Staff off it's lead last year (Bruno-my dog) was on hios lead so i screamed at her to call him back,he just came over to Bruno and he bit his back,picked the staff up in his teeth and shook it violently for about 5 seconds like it was a little toy and there was claret all over the staff.
Totally ruined it....i took him out on Firework night too last year because he wouldn't shut up barking so i though if he actually saw one going up in the sky he'd realise he wasn't in danger,luckily he had his attack harness on so i just about managed to control him when he absolutely lost the plot and very nearly ripped my arm out of it's socket.
Unreal Power in him. ;)
The bloke in that vid who sharpens his dogs teeth is one f*cked up nutter btw. :o
PITBULL v ALSATION v ROTTWEILER :o
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Am I the only1 who thinks this is a bit cruel or am I missing the point?
yea your not alone ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
Just watched the whole thing and I got to say what a bunch of cruel cunts people who are involved in dog fighting are.
I have seen some bad things while in the army and in my present job with the fire service but never have I witnessed such blatant cruelty.The cunts dont even have a good excuse for it.
Totally agree mate, its sick, and the electricution because the dog refused to fight what a sad state of affairs i love dogs i have a 2 year old rotty who is as soft as they come, it was just sad to see great animals like dogs being treated like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
I agree that a lot of the things in this video are cruel, but I can't help but think that if the dogs had a choice they would rather fight than be executed by the humane society. Electrocution/Gun Shot/Lethal Injection they all lead to the same place. Unfortunately, a game bred dog will most likely never socialize with other animals. They've been bred to fight for years just like a retriever has been bred to retrieve. It's a sad fact, but there is no such thing as making those dogs fight it's in their genetic makeup. They would do it on their own.
No actually your wrong, even those urban mix pitbulls do not fight without humans training them. They do not fight as puppies, they are trained by humans to fight. If you look up pure breed American Pitbull Terriers they are just like any other dogs loyal and filled with excitement. If you look up American Sraffordshire Terriers, they are gentle giants and if ever fight they will have a heart attack. Those dogs called pitbulls are corrupted dogs, lean and mean. They do not come out of the litter aggressive and brutal. Humans train them to battle. Dogs instict is to be in a pack and to follow a leader, unfortunetly for these dogs their leader is a cruel asshole. Dogs are very obedient, any kind of dog will fight to the death it just happens that this pitbull looking kinds of dogs are the best at fighting thats why they are presented as monster dogs. But truth is they are victims of cruelty manipulated and corrupted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joerod
how do you download or convert it into windows media player so I can download it onto my phone?Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
No, actually your wrong. Those "urban mixed pitbulls" are not game bred animals. These are dogs that genetically originated from the "pitbull", but were not selectively bred along the way. An amstaff is a totally different breed of dog, and shouldn't be compared to a "pitbull". A game bred dog has a bloodline that's hundreds of years old selectively bred along the way for fighting. The dogs are loyal and non-human aggressive in most cases. In most cases these dogs can literally be taken off of their owner's property by a complete stranger. The reason they are so loyal towards humans and their owner's are due to the fact that when they are in the "pit" they are in very close proximity to humans, therefore human aggressive dogs were eliminated from the bloodline.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rain
Do the puppies come out of a litter aggressive? Yes, and No some litters must be separated by the time they are 8 weeks of age. This has nothing to do with the owner, and everything to do with the fact that their genetically instilled animal aggression and predatory instics are already prevalent. In some cases they won't show aggression towards other animals until they are much older or maybe never in some cases, but that is a slim minority. You are completely wrong in your assumption that any dog will fight to the death. There is only one breed of dog that will do this and it is due to the fact that they are bred for it. What makes you think it is such an impossible feat to breed a dog that is naturally aggressive towards animals? Humans domesticated dogs and look at the thousands of different breeds the original wild dog evolved into. With that said, how can you honestly contend the fact that a bloodhound who hunts down game, etc. does not have any special trait instilled in it by selective breeding. At the same time insinuating any other type of dog can do the same? That is completely false.
Dogs have been on the short end of the stick for hundreds of years and it's very sad, but it's not just pitbulls. How do you think all of these different breeds came along? They were selectively bred in order to posses a desired trait (IE. heightened smell, size, color etc) Do you know what happened to the dogs that didn't conform to the standard? They were culled, meaning eliminated from the bloodline. All those dogs in shows you see on TV with the little poodles running around had at one time gone through this process. Now most of the show breeders cull by spaying or neutering the "non-worthy" dogs and giving them away or selling them at discounted prices.
The moral of the story here is there is only one true "pitbull"! Blue dogs(taken from the pitbull and bred for color and size), Am Staffs, big headed giant gang banger dogs are not "pitbulls". The latter of which greatly contributed to the horrible perception of these amazing animals. If you are doing a report on the "pitbull" I suggest you do more research and represent the animal as what it was intended to be, and what it has become. Look how docile the animals were that were being taken from one of the dogfighters' house. These are supposed to be the most menacing dogs on the face of the planet and they were wagging their tails and licking the guy.
Times have changed and this animal and the people who keep it true to form are no longer accepted in our society,(as of the 1976 Animal Welfare Act) but these animals were at one time respected and admired for what they were bred for. If your writing a paper don't take the easy road. If you truly admire the breed and want to help them put the truth out there. A "pitbull" was and is bred for fighting as seen in the video, but dogfighting, and the attacks on humans are two totally different subjects committed by two different breeds in my opinion. I don't condone dogfighting, but I respect the history of the breed, and it is very sad to me that these dogs are perceived to be savage beasts, when in fact the fighting dogs are the exact opposite. >:mad
wtf ! ::**Quote:
Originally Posted by Joerod
You asked about the breed and I gave you my insight on them. Sorry if it offends you, or you think I'm crazy, but there are too many misconceptions about these dogs. I CC'd you yesterday, but here's and SC right back at ya! ;)
ahahahaa ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Smashup
Think than idea needed a little more thought a smash ;D
hahaha yeah not a good idea at all ;D ;D ;D
Sounds like you need to learn how to control your dog or not take him out if he tears another one to shreds. Its called socializing. It is not difficult to do, but it is responsible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smashup
If somebodys dog ever attacked my dog like that then I would have the mind to give them and their dog a good fucking up.
What happens if it was a toddler that ran over to your dog? You'd be getting a nasty fine, jail time, and your dog would be put down without a seconds hesitation.
Its the owners responsibility and yet you are trying to blame that woman and her dog for your dog tearing it up???