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Fighters that Mayweather never faced.
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No way a green Cotto wanted any part of Mayweather at 140
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Spinks at 154 did anyone seriously want to see that ?? i don't think a win over Margarito would of proved much to be honest Margarito had beaten no real names at that time and Mayweather would have totally outclassed him like he did to Corrales Casamayor hadn't beaten no one really at that point only losing a close decision to Freitas and when Casamayor was starting to make big name for himself Mayweather had already moved up he could of maybe fought Paul Spadafora but he wasn't doing much himself except for getting dropped and getting gift decisions.
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That article is BS, the same could be said about any boxer today, who they didn't fight I mean.
What they don't say is how amazing it is that it was over 5 weight classes.
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The article was more middle-of-the-road than I was expecting. But the title is very loaded. Mayweather isn't the only fighter who somehow missed several fighters.
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I really don't believe it is his fault but the fact is that Maywether's reign from 140 on to 154 has met very little resistance. He never beat the champion at 140, 147 was at the time a very weak division. No offense to Carlos Baldomir but he will probably go down in history as one of the worst WW champs. No, his one sided victory over Gotti does not change this. As for Judah, all I can say is, what a waist. 154 was pretty bad as well with not one champion with more than 1 defense. Wright was the man and De la Hoya just picked up the spoils he left.
I don't want to take anything away from Maywether. He is a great fighter and no doubt an all time great. But he really came up at just the right time to not fight anybody of much significance in those three weight division. He still has a chance if he stays at the now red hot WW division and beats some of these champions like Cintron, Cotto, Mosley or Williams. It would have been great if he had come up about 8 or 9 years ago and seen how he would do against prime versions of De la Hoya, Mosley, Quartey and Trinidad.
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He's fighting Hatton (even if it is at 147).
It's completely unfair to do this until he retires and has been retired for a few years
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He needs to fight: Cotto, Williams, Margarito, Mosley, and Hatton
If he even fights 3 of those guys I'll be happy
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....hate to bring it up but perhaps JC jr will be ready to fight Floyd in 2-3 years at 147-154 and he could do what his pops did to Roger and Sr.
That would be a HUGE fight providing JC Jr develops like he's supposed to
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Originally Posted by Lyle
....hate to bring it up but perhaps JC jr will be ready to fight Floyd in 2-3 years at 147-154 and he could do what his pops did to Roger and Sr.
That would be a HUGE fight providing JC Jr develops like he's supposed to
Mayweather will probably be retired in 3 years and JCC Jr is nothing like his dad Jr is lanky and tall is not a great inside fighter and certainly won't be able to outbox Mayweather no way he beats Mayweather plus Mayweather is about 5 times better than is dad and uncle.
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Wonder how the fighters Hatton never faced list would look?
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Wonder how the fighters Hatton never faced list would look?
The fighters Hatton never faced list.......
Um actually except for Kostya and Cotto there hasnt been a great deal of talent at 140 recently. The fact Ricky hasnt moved weight much makes it a harder list to write.
Dammit i really wanted to discredit Ricky here!!!
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Wonder how the fighters Hatton never faced list would look?
The fighters Hatton never faced list.......
Um actually except for Kostya and Cotto there hasnt been a great deal of talent at 140 recently. The fact Ricky hasnt moved weight much makes it a harder list to write.
Dammit i really wanted to discredit Ricky here!!!
No doubt Ray Oliveira, Michael Stewart, Carlos Vilches and Dennis Pedersen were the best available fighters to face at that time. ::**
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Originally Posted by Lyle
....hate to bring it up but perhaps JC jr will be ready to fight Floyd in 2-3 years at 147-154 and he could do what his pops did to Roger and Sr.
That would be a HUGE fight providing JC Jr develops like he's supposed to
Mayweather will probably be retired in 3 years and JCC Jr is nothing like his dad Jr is lanky and tall is not a great inside fighter and certainly won't be able to outbox Mayweather no way he beats Mayweather plus Mayweather is about 5 times better than is dad and uncle.
#1 It was just wishful thinking
#2 Lots of fighters SAY they will retire but few actually follow through
Floyd never wanted any part of Kostya Tszyu at 140 either...no one fought that guy....no Oscar, not Mosley, not Shane....I figure they would have all beaten him but I also figure that he scared a lot of guys away after what he did to Zab, plus he didn't bring the bank like those other guys
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There is no doubt the only fighter Mayweather missed who was a real threat was Kostya Tszyu at 140lb.
Mayweather could have moved up anytime in 2002/3 to fight him before KT injured his shoulder.
It's interesting that Mayweather fought Bruseles only two months after Tszyu KO'd Mitchell, having not fought since beating Corley in May 2004!! (Why didn't Mayweather fight Tszyu that November?)
None of the other fighters mentioned on that list would have beaten Mayweather.
I'm not sure KT would have either, but he would have been a very dangerous opponent for PBF if they had of met back then, i don't think Floyd wanted any part of Tszyu.
Tszyu losing to Hatton blew any chance of a match up in 2005 anyway.
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i'm the biggest PBF fan there is but these constant PBF question and topic are getting old.
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I really don't believe it is his fault but the fact is that Maywether's reign from 140 on to 154 has met very little resistance. He never beat the champion at 140, 147 was at the time a very weak division. No offense to Carlos Baldomir but he will probably go down in history as one of the worst WW champs. No, his one sided victory over Gotti does not change this. As for Judah, all I can say is, what a waist. 154 was pretty bad as well with not one champion with more than 1 defense. Wright was the man and De la Hoya just picked up the spoils he left.
I don't want to take anything away from Maywether. He is a great fighter and no doubt an all time great. But he really came up at just the right time to not fight anybody of much significance in those three weight division. He still has a chance if he stays at the now red hot WW division and beats some of these champions like Cintron, Cotto, Mosley or Williams. It would have been great if he had come up about 8 or 9 years ago and seen how he would do against prime versions of De la Hoya, Mosley, Quartey and Trinidad.
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Mosley at his prime would have taught Mayweather a thing or two in boxing.
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Originally Posted by Lyle
He needs to fight: Cotto, Williams, Margarito, Mosley, and Hatton
If he even fights 3 of those guys I'll be happy
Thank you!
My 2 cents: Cotto has great power but I question the chin against floyd. Williams may be ready after a couple of more fights under his belt but I can see why people say he's ready for floyd after what he was able to prove against Margarito.
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To be the best you must beat the best!
1) Cotto 2)Margarito 3) Hatton 4) Williams 5) Mosley...Need I say more. Not taking anything away from floyd, he's good and all but you must fight the best at every division you stop at. Not fight Judah and Baldomir and then go up knowing you have Mosley, Maragrito and Cotto still left to fight. Fought Gatti for the 140 belt and avoided then champion Miguel Cotto and still champion Hatton. ??????? I've said it all along, PBF knows how to pick his fights and opponents.
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He was dominate under 140lb no question but above that he has certainly been picking easier options hence these questions always comming up. Even fighting Hatton at 147 is ridiculous when there are more legitimate Welterweights such as Moseley and Cotto, and even Williams. Fighting Hatton at 140lb would have helped his legacy since he beat the man who he avoided, but fighting Hatton does very little for his claim to be the greatest ever!
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Wonder how the fighters Hatton never faced list would look?
The fighters Hatton never faced list.......
Um actually except for Kostya and Cotto there hasnt been a great deal of talent at 140 recently. The fact Ricky hasnt moved weight much makes it a harder list to write.
Dammit i really wanted to discredit Ricky here!!!
No doubt Ray Oliveira, Michael Stewart, Carlos Vilches and Dennis Pedersen were the best available fighters to face at that time. ::**
It's called 'being brought along at the right pace' Which is why Hatton is where he is now!! e could've fought somebody too good too soon and be nowhere. Fact is he beat Tszyu & Castillo and is now fighting PBF, so you need to find a new argument spud gun ;)
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Originally Posted by The Best there is, The Besat there was, and the Best there ever will be!
To be the best you must beat the best!
1) Cotto 2)Margarito 3) Hatton 4) Williams 5) Mosley...Need I say more. Not taking anything away from floyd, he's good and all but you must fight the best at every division you stop at. Not fight Judah and Baldomir and then go up knowing you have Mosley, Maragrito and Cotto still left to fight. Fought Gatti for the 140 belt and avoided then champion Miguel Cotto and still champion Hatton. ??????? I've said it all along, PBF knows how to pick his fights and opponents.
Who says those guys are the best
Cotto- Needs to be reavaluated after the Mosely fight to seal his legitimacy as worldbeater status seeing he has done nothing but pick the remaining meat off the carcasses of Fighters Mayweather has already beat
Margarito- Anybody who wasnt a rabid fan of the guy knew that he wasnt anything special to begin with
Williams has the abiltiy to trouble and create hell for anyone 147-160
Mosely- is still pretty dangerous at 35 and the most bona fied fighter on the list that has an established Hall Of Fame legacy fighting pretty much the way he was in his prime.
To me Mosely is the only one at this present time that gives Mayweather more impact on his resume and legacy
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Wonder how the fighters Hatton never faced list would look?
The fighters Hatton never faced list.......
Um actually except for Kostya and Cotto there hasnt been a great deal of talent at 140 recently. The fact Ricky hasnt moved weight much makes it a harder list to write.
Dammit i really wanted to discredit Ricky here!!!
NOW YOU THINK WARREN WOULD PUT BUMS INFRONT OF HIS STAR FIGHTERS ?????? SHAME ON YOU FOR SUGGESTING IT ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D LOL
No doubt Ray Oliveira, Michael Stewart, Carlos Vilches and Dennis Pedersen were the best available fighters to face at that time. ::**
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Originally Posted by The Best there is, The Besat there was, and the Best there ever will be!
To be the best you must beat the best!
1) Cotto 2)Margarito 3) Hatton 4) Williams 5) Mosley...Need I say more. Not taking anything away from floyd, he's good and all but you must fight the best at every division you stop at. Not fight Judah and Baldomir and then go up knowing you have Mosley, Maragrito and Cotto still left to fight. Fought Gatti for the 140 belt and avoided then champion Miguel Cotto and still champion Hatton. ??????? I've said it all along, PBF knows how to pick his fights and opponents.
Why are people still hanging onto Margarito, saying that he's one of the guys that Mayweather has to beat to cement his legacy? Did Daniel Santos cement his legacy when he got the ko over Margarito 6 fights ago, or something like that? Not exactly ;)
Is Paul Williams now a Hall of Fame lock because he just beat Margarito? No, now he's proven that he deserves a shot at bigger names in the welterweight division, nothing more.
Mayweather is fighting Hatton, so the haters should scratch Hatton's name off their list of people that Floyd's never faced.
Cotto and Mosley are fighting soon, and the winner of that will probably be fighting the winner of Mayweather vs. Hatton. Unless of course, Mosley needs to go on vacation with his wife or gets another tooth ache like he always seems to do whenever a Mayweather fight is on the horizon.
Cotto just beat a guy (Zab Judah) that when Mayweather beat, the haters said that Mayweather was avoiding Delahoya, Hatton, etc. etc.
It was Cotto's team that said that he was not ready for Mayweather, not the other way around ;)
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I think Mayweather can safely call it a career after Hatton and the winner of Cotto/Mosely. Why would he fight the loser, unless he loses to Hatton. It makes complete sense that the winner and losers both fight each other.
If I were Floyd, I would fight Hatton, assuming I win, then fight the Cotto/Mosely winner, then take a solid year or two off. Let some hype and speculation build up and see if a name emerges in the Middleweight, because Taylor and Pavlik will be long gone by then. In fact, once those guys leave MW, maybe Paul Williams moves up and Floyd fight him then.
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Floyd could come in at 147 beat both the klitschko bros in the same night at heavyweight and people would still talk shit cause they have another brother out there somewhere we didn't know about and he'd be a punk for ducking him..or a bunch of claims about how he was running and a chicken for outboxing them and not going toe to toe......
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Floyd could come in at 147 beat both the klitschko bros in the same night at heavyweight and people would still talk S*** cause they have another brother out there somewhere we didn't know about and he'd be a punk for ducking him..or a bunch of claims about how he was running and a chicken for outboxing them and not going toe to toe......
Thought this was a very funny post. I hate mayweather but damn that's funny.
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Originally Posted by Mar
Floyd could come in at 147 beat both the klitschko bros in the same night at heavyweight and people would still talk S*** cause they have another brother out there somewhere we didn't know about and he'd be a punk for ducking him..or a bunch of claims about how he was running and a chicken for outboxing them and not going toe to toe......
This is kinda extreme but i get where u are coming from. Some ppl will be unhappy no matter what floyd does. He is a natural 130 pounder who beat a great fighter at 154. Not bad really.
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I think Mayweather can safely call it a career after Hatton and the winner of Cotto/Mosely. Why would he fight the loser, unless he loses to Hatton. It makes complete sense that the winner and losers both fight each other.
If I were Floyd, I would fight Hatton, assuming I win, then fight the Cotto/Mosely winner, then take a solid year or two off. Let some hype and speculation build up and see if a name emerges in the Middleweight, because Taylor and Pavlik will be long gone by then. In fact, once those guys leave MW, maybe Paul Williams moves up and Floyd fight him then.
I think you are right here, he beats Hatton and then fights the winner of Cotto V Mosley then call it a day. Nothing else to prove after that.
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Wonder how the fighters Hatton never faced list would look?
The fighters Hatton never faced list.......
Um actually except for Kostya and Cotto there hasnt been a great deal of talent at 140 recently. The fact Ricky hasnt moved weight much makes it a harder list to write.
Dammit i really wanted to discredit Ricky here!!!
No doubt Ray Oliveira, Michael Stewart, Carlos Vilches and Dennis Pedersen were the best available fighters to face at that time. ::**
It's called 'being brought along at the right pace' Which is why Hatton is where he is now!! e could've fought somebody too good too soon and be nowhere. Fact is he beat Tszyu & Castillo and is now fighting PBF, so you need to find a new argument spud gun ;)
Bullshit. Mayweather fought Genaro Hernandez, Angel Manfredy, Goyo Vargas and Diego Corrales in his first 25 fights. And look where he's at today. Come up with better excuses, Little one
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Originally Posted by The Best there is, The Besat there was, and the Best there ever will be!
To be the best you must beat the best!
1) Cotto 2)Margarito 3) Hatton 4) Williams 5) Mosley...Need I say more. Not taking anything away from floyd, he's good and all but you must fight the best at every division you stop at. Not fight Judah and Baldomir and then go up knowing you have Mosley, Maragrito and Cotto still left to fight. Fought Gatti for the 140 belt and avoided then champion Miguel Cotto and still champion Hatton. ??????? I've said it all along, PBF knows how to pick his fights and opponents.
Who says those guys are the best
Cotto- Needs to be reavaluated after the Mosely fight to seal his legitimacy as worldbeater status seeing he has done nothing but pick the remaining meat off the carcasses of Fighters Mayweather has already beat
Margarito- Anybody who wasnt a rabid fan of the guy knew that he wasnt anything special to begin with
Williams has the abiltiy to trouble and create hell for anyone 147-160
Mosely- is still pretty dangerous at 35 and the most bona fied fighter on the list that has an established Hall Of Fame legacy fighting pretty much the way he was in his prime.
To me Mosely is the only one at this present time that gives Mayweather more impact on his resume and legacy
We will see if Cotto need to be reevaluated after the Mosley fight. You guys continue to picture Mosley as a god at 147. I'm sorry, He is not. If he was as powerful as you guys continue to say he is, he would've been able to knock down Oscar sometime in their 2 fights after landing all those overhand rights. Sugar Shane was Sugar shane at 135. He has only been a good Mosley since. Look and watch his fights and look as his record since moving up. Cotto is going to shock the boxing world. Mosley has nothing else to prove, he's just looking for a mega fight. Cotto has alot to prove. This is his chance!!!!
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by The Best there is, The Besat there was, and the Best there ever will be!
To be the best you must beat the best!
1) Cotto 2)Margarito 3) Hatton 4) Williams 5) Mosley...Need I say more. Not taking anything away from floyd, he's good and all but you must fight the best at every division you stop at. Not fight Judah and Baldomir and then go up knowing you have Mosley, Maragrito and Cotto still left to fight. Fought Gatti for the 140 belt and avoided then champion Miguel Cotto and still champion Hatton. ??????? I've said it all along, PBF knows how to pick his fights and opponents.
Who says those guys are the best
Cotto- Needs to be reavaluated after the Mosely fight to seal his legitimacy as worldbeater status seeing he has done nothing but pick the remaining meat off the carcasses of Fighters Mayweather has already beat
Margarito- Anybody who wasnt a rabid fan of the guy knew that he wasnt anything special to begin with
Williams has the abiltiy to trouble and create hell for anyone 147-160
Mosely- is still pretty dangerous at 35 and the most bona fied fighter on the list that has an established Hall Of Fame legacy fighting pretty much the way he was in his prime.
To me Mosely is the only one at this present time that gives Mayweather more impact on his resume and legacy
We will see if Cotto need to be reevaluated after the Mosley fight. You guys continue to picture Mosley as a god at 147. I'm sorry, He is not.
If he was as powerful as you guys continue to say he is, he would've been able to knock down Oscar sometime in their 2 fights after landing all those overhand rights. Sugar Shane was Sugar shane at 135. He has only been a good Mosley since. Look and watch his fights and look as his record since moving up. Cotto is going to shock the boxing world. Mosley has nothing else to prove, he's just looking for a mega fight. Cotto has alot to prove. This is his chance!!!!
I recall Oscar barely ever getting knocked down in his entire career.
Cotto, on the other hand, has a big problem of getting knocked down by mediocre fighters.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Wonder how the fighters Hatton never faced list would look?
The fighters Hatton never faced list.......
Um actually except for Kostya and Cotto there hasnt been a great deal of talent at 140 recently. The fact Ricky hasnt moved weight much makes it a harder list to write.
Dammit i really wanted to discredit Ricky here!!!
No doubt Ray Oliveira, Michael Stewart, Carlos Vilches and Dennis Pedersen were the best available fighters to face at that time. ::**
It's called 'being brought along at the right pace' Which is why Hatton is where he is now!! e could've fought somebody too good too soon and be nowhere. Fact is he beat Tszyu & Castillo and is now fighting PBF, so you need to find a new argument spud gun ;)
Bullshit. Mayweather fought Genaro Hernandez, Angel Manfredy, Goyo Vargas and Diego Corrales in his first 25 fights. And look where he's at today. Come up with better excuses, Little one
So is Mayweather a typical fighter?? Or is he a little bit special ??
Look at MAB or JCC and see how many fights they had before they stepped up to world class and they seemed to do ok too ;)
I think the fact that Hatton is 42-0 and fighting the biggest name in boxing in Las Vegas is probably the end of the argument about whether his career has been brought along in the correct way.
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I'll never get tired of saying that in 1999-2000
PBF vs. Freitas would have been a very interesting fight.
I would have put some serious money on Freitas to win.
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I'll never get tired of saying that in 1999-2000
PBF vs. Freitas would have been a very interesting fight.
I would have put some serious money on Freitas to win.
Than you would of lost your money. Freitas didn't just all of a sudden lose his heart. He never had one. He was just never exposed back than.
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I'll never get tired of saying that in 1999-2000
PBF vs. Freitas would have been a very interesting fight.
I would have put some serious money on Freitas to win.
Than you would of lost your money. Freitas didn't just all of a sudden lose his heart. He never had one. He was just never exposed back than.
Well I like to think Freitas had will and heart back then, now today I don't think so.
Freitas was dropped, rocked and hurt in fights early on in his career. He would get back up or recover and comeback and win.
The fight was there to be made, Suarez (trainer of Freitas at the time) had already began preparing Popo for the fight that never came.
I just think for the PBF of that time a fighter like Freitas would have given him lot's of problems.
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If you asked me who I would have preferred Mayweather to fight Corrales, Frietas or Cassamajor I would have said Corrales. I am glad it worked that way because it was an excellent beat down.
