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Well to tell you the truth i think that Michael Spinks was the best lightheavywieght he held all the titles at one time and did defend one of the belts being wba belt 11 times and beat every one pretty easy and was undefeated as lightheavywieght. Also he had alot of power at Lightheavyweight and his akward way of fighting was hard for many opponents so he's my pick for the best buts thats just me.
all so i am sorry for messing up my title my bad i am a idoit and forgot to check twice sorry
Spinks is a good pick. I like RJJ, and Michael Moorer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
Spinks would have drilled Jone Jr at 175. People forget how good Spinks was because of the 90 second Tyson blowout. At 175 he was probably the best ever, no worse than top three (you could argue for Charles and Moore over him).
To me i think Spinks could beat Charles, Jones, Moorer and i put this way if he fought them 10 times i thinke he win 70 percent of the time at least like i said again i think his style was wierd and he had alot of power at lightheavyweight if i had to put the top 4 it would be Spinks,Charles,Moore,jones i think jones is great but i think he lose to the 3 above but the only one i say convincingly would be Spinks
Gene Tunney - took on and beat top 10 heavyweight champ of all time Jack Dempsey, took on and beat Harry Greb in a rematch....he was THE REAL DEAL
Billy Conn - took on and nearly beat GREATEST heavyweight of all time Joe Louis
Bob Foster - had the balls to take on Joe Frazier....didn't do well but he was damned good otherwise
Roy Jones Jr. - very good but didn't fight THE BEST
Ezzard Charles - beat a number of guys and is
Joey Maxim - very good, tough hard worker much like Carmen Basilio...underrated
Archie Moore - very tough and very skilled, took on all comers!
Is that your list or those people you think can beat spinks just to ask
....no not really but Foster would give everyone a tough time as would Tunney.
I'm not high on Spinks being the best light heavy all time....he's up there but he's not the best.
RJJ - Spinks may have been close but Michael just didn't have the power of Roy....only 21 KO's in 31 wins and Roy usually just toyed with the guys he didn't KO....though the skill level wasn't the best as I said before
i think roy's chin comes in to question when fighting spinks and as far as tunney goes he was pretty old school but still was a atg and bob was amazing to but i still sticking with spinks but you have very good points lyle thanks for the post cc
Easily Ezzard Charles.
I'm not sure abotu who I would say is the best out of accomplishments, but I will say this: I'd take RJJ over any 175lber that ever lived. Spinks and Charles were great but Roy was in a class of his own.
How is rjj higher then spinks and charles how would he beat them spinks was quick and roy jones jaw might break if he gets hit by spinks but yet again my thoughts just asking how would roy do it i like to have a answer like is it his speed or his style i mean spinks and charles were in a class of there own aswell and had more success at higher wieghts, i am just looking for more roy was in a class of his own all those men lyle listed were in a class of there own when they were in their era that just good enough answer to me
Bob Foster would be Roy's toughest test....a tall rangey fighter with loads of power, 56 wins and 46 KO's....sure he got KO'd 6 times himself but that was vs heavyweights mainly, including ALI and JOE FRAZIER
Gene Tunney would be tough for his power, boxing skill, and just all around toughness...but his boxing skill was the best of the bunch....he could outbox brawlers and out power the defensive fighters.
see thoes are the answers i like because he explains why they would be tough with good examples
RJJ - Charles would still be very tough to call because they are similar style fighters though I think Ezzard was a little tougher and stuck to business as Roy tended to gloat and let his opponent get punches off....not that it usually ended up hurting him until he came back down from heavyweight.
RJJ - Archie Moore would be fun to watch but I think it would be liek watching RJJ - James Toney.
Nice list, I'd also add Tommy Loughran and Harry GrebQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
who you think would win between spinks and roy though lyle since you answered the others i am still going with spinks though
Well I think Spinks and Roy fought similar competition....Michael had Eddie Mustafa Muhamad and Dwight Qawi while Roy Jones had Montel Griffin, Virgil Hill, and Mike McCallum.
Roy vs the slick southpaw usually played to Roy's favor because of his speed and power
Michael vs the sniper with the quick hands usually played to Spink's favor due to his defense and counter punching.
I can see this fight ending with Roy KO-ing Spinks, Roy decisioning Spinks, or Spinks outworking Roy but I don't see Spinks KO-ing Roy
Bob Foster, Ezzard Charles and Roy would beat Spinks IMO.
It is a toss up....Archie Moore,,,Spinks,,,Conn.....IMO Jones fought weak comp at LH and there for accomplished not more then the average champion.....Jones became great for his MW and SMW days
i have to desigree with spinks being ko'd roy aint no tyson and spinks had the power to put down roy who's been ko'd by less
Roy would keep him away and win a decision with his speed IMO. Spinks was great but Roy was on a different level.
who at lightheavyweight did roy face to show he was on a higher level then spinks was
Who at light heavyweight did Spinks fight to show he was on a higher level than Roy was?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
He lost to Tyson and was knocked out easily by the latter. Tyson for me is the best during his peak moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
what does that have to do with him as a light heavywieght bruce
I was thinking the same. Mike Tyson must be the best lightheavy ever........ :lickish:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
yea lets say tyson is best lightheavyweight champion if thats the case lol
Spinks never beat good Lightheavyweight only one was Dwight Muhammad Qawi and Spinks was knocked down in that fight if i remember and it was quite close.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
yea ice but he is talking about mike tyson knocking out spinks has nothing to do with anything i look up that fight you are talking about and see how it went infact looking it up right and did roy beat anyone at LH better then that guy
referee: Larry Hazzard | judge: Frank Cappuccino 144-141 | judge: Tony Perez 144-141 | judge: Tony Castellano 144-140
I have seen parts of that fight but this are the scores spinks won by 3 rounds on two and four on the other not that close of a fight
who was the best guy roy beat at his best when he was a light weight does anyone know
I'd say McCallum, Gonzales, or Griffin....the KO of Griffin was top notch considering how good Montel was before then...he was undefeated.Quote:
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Gene Tunney beat THE BEST competition...Harry Greb, Georges Carpentier, Tommy Loughran, and Jeff Smith who was 105-25-4
speaking of tunney they say he held the american belt but who was the one with the world belt at the time
Roy Jones Junior
Ezzard Charles
Archie Moore
Bob Foster
Michael Spinks
and Sam Langford
I can't pick one, it's too hard
Charles is the number one. He was only a Lt heavy when he won the Heavyweight Title his resume is second to none. When he lost to Walcott and Marciano he was ill hed already beat Walcott 3times and Moore 4, he fought the fighters nobody else would he was at his best at 12 stone. He got his chance when the people that ran Boxing thought he was past it and still won
well gene tunney had just as many big names and i think he could outbox Charles but both were pretty old school so i think that spinks could still could win his style was very awkward and he had alot of power and lightheavy still think he is the best even though i think i am the only one that does
There were so many greats at light heavyweight.....Tunney and Charles .....man those guys were just awesome
maybe someone should make a thread tunney vs charles think that be a interesting fight both were great in both H and LH and were very good boxers be close fight
Bob Foster - RJJ would have been damn good too....like Tommy Hearns - Ray Leonard at light heavyweight!