Roy's power?

there seem to be a lot of people who think roy had awsome power... now i seen lots of roys fights but i don't think his power was that great, tbh i think it is vastly overrated...

Roy was a special fighter... he said it betteer than anyone could, sumin along the lines of dodging a punch alows you to counter better than when u block a punch.. fuck knows what he said word for word but he hit the nail right on the head with it...

yeah roy could hit, could hit hard... but i don't think he had supreme power, i believe it was a lot down to the fact the cunt was so gifted when a guy threw punches roy was so damn fast he could dodge it, throw and catch the guy before he had time to tense up, to block it, to be ready to get it, and that was his main power, the unexpected...

I'm not expert on roy, but have tried to watch as much of him as i can, and a lot of his knock downs and kayos seemed to have come from him waiting for the toher guy to throw, to commit him self, to be unexpected or off balance and then catch him, shake him up and finish him off, throw when his pucnh would be most efective...

i aint slating roy, the motherufcker was one of the greatest boxer i have ever seen, just intereted to what others think of his power....

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Originally Posted by Preme

there seem to be a lot of people who think roy had awsome power... now i seen lots of roys fights but i don't think his power was that great, tbh i think it is vastly overrated...

Roy was a special fighter... he said it betteer than anyone could, sumin along the lines of dodging a punch alows you to counter better than when u block a punch.. F*** knows what he said word for word but he hit the nail right on the head with it...

yeah roy could hit, could hit hard... but i don't think he had supreme power, i believe it was a lot down to the fact the c*** was so gifted when a guy threw punches roy was so damn fast he could dodge it, throw and catch the guy before he had time to tense up, to block it, to be ready to get it, and that was his main power, the unexpected...

I'm not expert on roy, but have tried to watch as much of him as i can, and a lot of his knock downs and kayos seemed to have come from him waiting for the toher guy to throw, to commit him self, to be unexpected or off balance and then catch him, shake him up and finish him off, throw when his pucnh would be most efective...

i aint slating roy, the motherufcker was one of the greatest boxer i have ever seen, just intereted to what others think of his power....

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Roy had great speed and great timing and that helps alot with power i think Roy's power was probably about 8/10.

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

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Originally Posted by Preme

there seem to be a lot of people who think roy had awsome power... now i seen lots of roys fights but i don't think his power was that great, tbh i think it is vastly overrated...

Roy was a special fighter... he said it betteer than anyone could, sumin along the lines of dodging a punch alows you to counter better than when u block a punch.. F*** knows what he said word for word but he hit the nail right on the head with it...

yeah roy could hit, could hit hard... but i don't think he had supreme power, i believe it was a lot down to the fact the c*** was so gifted when a guy threw punches roy was so damn fast he could dodge it, throw and catch the guy before he had time to tense up, to block it, to be ready to get it, and that was his main power, the unexpected...

I'm not expert on roy, but have tried to watch as much of him as i can, and a lot of his knock downs and kayos seemed to have come from him waiting for the toher guy to throw, to commit him self, to be unexpected or off balance and then catch him, shake him up and finish him off, throw when his pucnh would be most efective...

i aint slating roy, the motherufcker was one of the greatest boxer i have ever seen, just intereted to what others think of his power....

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Roy had great speed and great timing and that helps alot with power i think Roy's power was probably about 8/10.

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:coolclick: Agreed. Roy had speed which generates power, therefore yeah he had power. He had some tremendous one punch kos and knockdowns back in the day. But hes also not really known for his power so much as his skill and speed, so I dont think his power was ever really overrated.

roys sheer presence in the ring helped his power i think his power was good! i hope we could see more, i would love to see him finish tarver and johnson

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

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Originally Posted by Preme

there seem to be a lot of people who think roy had awsome power... now i seen lots of roys fights but i don't think his power was that great, tbh i think it is vastly overrated...

Roy was a special fighter... he said it betteer than anyone could, sumin along the lines of dodging a punch alows you to counter better than when u block a punch.. F*** knows what he said word for word but he hit the nail right on the head with it...

yeah roy could hit, could hit hard... but i don't think he had supreme power, i believe it was a lot down to the fact the c*** was so gifted when a guy threw punches roy was so damn fast he could dodge it, throw and catch the guy before he had time to tense up, to block it, to be ready to get it, and that was his main power, the unexpected...

I'm not expert on roy, but have tried to watch as much of him as i can, and a lot of his knock downs and kayos seemed to have come from him waiting for the toher guy to throw, to commit him self, to be unexpected or off balance and then catch him, shake him up and finish him off, throw when his pucnh would be most efective...

i aint slating roy, the motherufcker was one of the greatest boxer i have ever seen, just intereted to what others think of his power....

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Roy had great speed and great timing and that helps alot with power i think Roy's power was probably about 8/10.

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:coolclick: Agreed. Roy had speed which generates power, therefore yeah he had power. He had some tremendous one punch kos and knockdowns back in the day. But hes also not really known for his power so much as his skill and speed, so I dont think his power was ever really overrated.

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:coolclick: back bro.

Not to shit on anyone's opinon, but I always hear people say "ohh roy wasn't a big puncher, he was just fast. He caught guys when they weren't expecting it, ect." Ok, but if speed is such a huge factor in power, how do you explain guys like Paul Maglinaggi? Or Pernell Whitaker?

Roy had great power IMO. He started his career at 154, and even at 175 he showed he could knock a guy out with 1 punch if he wanted to. He even hurt 240lb John Ruiz with a punch. The fact is in the latter half of his career he was not a guy who wanted to go for the KO as he was very cautious, which causes people to underrate his power. "Ahhh he went the distance with that guy, his power aint what its cracked up to be", but in the post fight interview after the Hanshaw bout, he alluded to the fact that he doesn't want to knock a guy out.

I mean just look at his body, he had an extremely powerful body. Muscular legs/calves, broad shoulders like a football player, biceps like coconuts. The guy had some power. Look at his fights against Virgil Hill, Serwano, Wolfe, Griffen, ect. The guy had power, expecially in those lower weights. He put Merqui Sosa right on his ass and he had an incredible chin.

The same thnig is happening to Floyd Mayweather now. People are talking about how he can't punch for shit, but they forget at the start of his career he was considered a 1-punch KO guy, and he raised hell in those smaller divisions.

Like ICB said the speed factor helped....The shot that KO's you is the one you did not see coming....Roy was fast and had an unorthodox style in which caught his opponents by suprise....

I go lower on the power a bit though and give him a 7

this is a complicated subject that deserves the attention of a physicist and neurologist. newton's 2nd law informs us that force=mass * acceleration, so those who are saying roy did not have power, just speed, are forgetting that speed is an intricate part of power.

but the effect a powerful punch has on opponent depends on whether the fighter sees the punch. if he doesn't see it, he can't react or move away, thus the power is greater since a punch hitting an object coming forward, as opposed to backward, generates more force, like a head-on car collision. so roy's speed contributed to his power, unlike foreman for example, who was mostly mass.

furthermore, a punch from the side often creates, though not always, greater KO potential than a straight one b/c of neurology. If the skull moves one way but the brain stays where it is it causes a blackout, or KO. Roy's unorthodox angles contributed to this phenomenon.

By blocking a shot you stop one shoulder from moving if that doesnt move niether can the other one, the shots become arm punches.

Roy wasn't the hugest puncher, but his speed kinda was his power. When you don't see a shot coming it sparks you out even when it ain't that big a shot, when Roy hit them and they crumbled, it's because they didn't even see the shot. ROy was much less effective as a finisher when the guy was defensively sound. That's no disrespet to Roy because it's hard to be a big puncher when your so outragously quick, with such good movement, to be be able to stand still and really dig your feet into the canvas and unleash a KO punch.

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

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Originally Posted by Preme

there seem to be a lot of people who think roy had awsome power... now i seen lots of roys fights but i don't think his power was that great, tbh i think it is vastly overrated...

Roy was a special fighter... he said it betteer than anyone could, sumin along the lines of dodging a punch alows you to counter better than when u block a punch.. F*** knows what he said word for word but he hit the nail right on the head with it...

yeah roy could hit, could hit hard... but i don't think he had supreme power, i believe it was a lot down to the fact the c*** was so gifted when a guy threw punches roy was so damn fast he could dodge it, throw and catch the guy before he had time to tense up, to block it, to be ready to get it, and that was his main power, the unexpected...

I'm not expert on roy, but have tried to watch as much of him as i can, and a lot of his knock downs and kayos seemed to have come from him waiting for the toher guy to throw, to commit him self, to be unexpected or off balance and then catch him, shake him up and finish him off, throw when his pucnh would be most efective...

i aint slating roy, the motherufcker was one of the greatest boxer i have ever seen, just intereted to what others think of his power....

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Roy had great speed and great timing and that helps alot with power i think Roy's power was probably about 8/10.

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Fucking Ice. Your boxing knowledge has gotten pretty impressive. Outstanding post.

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Originally Posted by Preme

there seem to be a lot of people who think roy had awsome power... now i seen lots of roys fights but i don't think his power was that great, tbh i think it is vastly overrated...

Roy was a special fighter... he said it betteer than anyone could, sumin along the lines of dodging a punch alows you to counter better than when u block a punch.. F*** knows what he said word for word but he hit the nail right on the head with it...

yeah roy could hit, could hit hard... but i don't think he had supreme power, i believe it was a lot down to the fact the c*** was so gifted when a guy threw punches roy was so damn fast he could dodge it, throw and catch the guy before he had time to tense up, to block it, to be ready to get it, and that was his main power, the unexpected...

I'm not expert on roy, but have tried to watch as much of him as i can, and a lot of his knock downs and kayos seemed to have come from him waiting for the toher guy to throw, to commit him self, to be unexpected or off balance and then catch him, shake him up and finish him off, throw when his pucnh would be most efective...

i aint slating roy, the motherufcker was one of the greatest boxer i have ever seen, just intereted to what others think of his power....

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Roy had great speed and great timing and that helps alot with power i think Roy's power was probably about 8/10.

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F****** Ice. Your boxing knowledge has gotten pretty impressive. Outstanding post.

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Thanks alot bro i seem to learn new thing about boxing everyday for training tips and knowledge cc.

I would equate RJJ's power with mayweather in that I've seen where they both have KO power but spend the majority of time using their speed instead of really sitting down on a punch.

RoyJJ has good power and timing. Both combined IMO make for a good knockout boxer. Kostya tszyu was similar in that his timing was good and his speed was good.

roy's power out of 10 for me is about 7 and a half or 8.

Any punch threw at the speed Roy threw his at = greater power

Right on-speed =power. Take a bullet in your hand and throw it at someone, then fire that same bullet and see the difference speed makes. Very, very stupid analogy, sorry, Atlas is on my mind ;D

Roy at his peak is unbeatable. I love to watch his fights. His style makes his opponents powerless. that's why most of them went down.