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mayweather vs castillo
just watched some clips of the fight and was listening to the commentators talking seems they think Castillo got robbed only seen the last 2 rounds so cant comment on the fight but whats everyones opinion on the fight was Castillo robbed
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Originally Posted by geo
just watched some clips of the fight and was listening to the commentators talking seems they think Castillo got robbed only seen the last 2 rounds so cant comment on the fight but whats everyones opinion on the fight was Castillo robbed
I tried to score the fight impartially when I watched it the 2nd time (courtesy of El Gamo) and had JLC winning by a round.
The big controversy was with the lopsided scoring in Mayweather's favor, not so much that JLC won the fight cause it was real close.
A "robbery," would be more along the lines of the Dimitrus Hopkins vs. Steve Forbes fight or even Julio Cesar Chavez being awarded a draw vs. Pernell Whitaker when Whitaker clearly won the fight.
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It was not the worst decision I have ever seen but IMO Castillo won the fight....I had him up by 2 rds....Also it depends I guess on how you score a fight.....He was the underdog...He was in Floyds face...He brought Floyd to the limit....Pushed the action....backed Floyd up at times....But you know the old expression....You hve to convincingly beat the champion.....So I guess in the eyes of the judges was not enough :-\
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Originally Posted by geo
just watched some clips of the fight and was listening to the commentators talking seems they think Castillo got robbed only seen the last 2 rounds so cant comment on the fight but whats everyones opinion on the fight was Castillo robbed
I tried to score the fight impartially when I watched it the 2nd time (courtesy of El Gamo) and had JLC winning by a round.
The big controversy was with the lopsided scoring in Mayweather's favor, not so much that JLC won the fight cause it was real close.
A "robbery," would be more along the lines of the Dimitrus Hopkins vs. Steve Forbes fight or even Julio Cesar Chavez being awarded a draw vs. Pernell Whitaker when Whitaker clearly won the fight.
I had JLC winning it by 2,I have seen the fight about 6 or 7 times. I actually enjoyed it! However,as much as I hate to admit it,I agree with FrozenSolid,it was not a robbery. It was a close fight and Mayweather did the right thing by giving JLC a rematch,which again was close but which he won.
I think most people(including myself at times,depending on my mood) tend to wish that JLC had won so over play the fact that the fight was close,making it seem like a robbery. I do feel for JLC though,he was the better fighter that night and that is the best anyone has done v Floyd and I include Oscar in that.
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Whole fight is on youtube why not go and watch it anyway i had Castillo 1 up but there could be a case made either way Castillo landed more but Mayweather landed cleaner punches in rematch though he easily won i had Mayweather ahead 3 rounds in the rematch.
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Very close fight in which an argument could be made for either fighter depending on how your score the fight. I think Mayweather said he had a shoulder injury. The second time he had no injury and clearly won.
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Someone just posted fight for you also if you go on youtube and go into the guys profile the one that uploaded the fight i believe he has second Castillo vs Mayweather fight.
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Re: mayweather vs castillo
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Originally Posted by Bukom Battler
Very close fight in which an argument could be made for either fighter depending on how your score the fight. I think Mayweather said he had a shoulder injury. The second time he had no injury and clearly won.
This is probably one of the reasons why there is some doubts on Mayweather being number one. He can't always convince everybody that he has won the fight. Pacquaio, on the other hand, had won his fights convincingly against Morales, MAB, Solis,Ledwaba,etc. Mayweather is very skilled but not very convincing. I love to watch his fights though.
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Originally Posted by Bukom Battler
Very close fight in which an argument could be made for either fighter depending on how your score the fight. I think Mayweather said he had a shoulder injury. The second time he had no injury and clearly won.
This is probably one of the reasons why there is some doubts on Mayweather being number one. He can't always convince everybody that he has won the fight. Pacquaio, on the other hand, had won his fights convincingly against Morales, MAB, Solis,Ledwaba,etc. Mayweather is very skilled but not very convincing. I love to watch his fights though.
The reason that's a ludicrous statement is the fact that Pacquaio has flat out lost before, more than once. At worst, even if Floyd would have lost the decision in this fight, how would that place Manny above him, considering he also has lost? Not to mention there was no rematch clause in that fight and Floyd immediately gave Castillo a rematch and beat him undisputedly.
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Originally Posted by skyler
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Originally Posted by brucelee
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Originally Posted by Bukom Battler
Very close fight in which an argument could be made for either fighter depending on how your score the fight. I think Mayweather said he had a shoulder injury. The second time he had no injury and clearly won.
This is probably one of the reasons why there is some doubts on Mayweather being number one. He can't always convince everybody that he has won the fight. Pacquaio, on the other hand, had won his fights convincingly against Morales, MAB, Solis,Ledwaba,etc. Mayweather is very skilled but not very convincing. I love to watch his fights though.
The reason that's a ludicrous statement is the fact that Pacquaio has flat out lost before, more than once. At worst, even if Floyd would have lost the decision in this fight, how would that place Manny above him, considering he also has lost? Not to mention there was no rematch clause in that fight and Floyd immediately gave Castillo a rematch and beat him undisputedly.
Please research well on the statement in bold and italics above. About those Pacquaio's losses before commenting on those losses.Thank you in advance for doing my suggested research. O0
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The judging was terrible. In the first fight, I had Floyd winning by a round, but the scorecards had Flody winning by a mile. In the second fight, I thought Floyd won much more convicingly, yet the scorecards were much closer than the first time.
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The judging was terrible. In the first fight, I had Floyd winning by a round, but the scorecards had Flody winning by a mile. In the second fight, I thought Floyd won much more convicingly, yet the scorecards were much closer than the first time.
You just have proven my arguments. O0
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I scored this fight a draw. Floyd clearly won the second fight.
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Originally Posted by skyler
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Originally Posted by brucelee
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Originally Posted by Bukom Battler
Very close fight in which an argument could be made for either fighter depending on how your score the fight. I think Mayweather said he had a shoulder injury. The second time he had no injury and clearly won.
This is probably one of the reasons why there is some doubts on Mayweather being number one. He can't always convince everybody that he has won the fight. Pacquaio, on the other hand, had won his fights convincingly against Morales, MAB, Solis,Ledwaba,etc. Mayweather is very skilled but not very convincing. I love to watch his fights though.
The reason that's a ludicrous statement is the fact that Pacquaio has flat out lost before, more than once. At worst, even if Floyd would have lost the decision in this fight, how would that place Manny above him, considering he also has lost? Not to mention there was no rematch clause in that fight and Floyd immediately gave Castillo a rematch and beat him undisputedly.
Please research well on the statement in bold and italics above. About those Pacquaio's losses before commenting on those losses.Thank you in advance for doing my suggested research. O0
Manny Pacquaio, KO'd in 3 rounds by Medgeen Singerat
Manny Pacquaio, KO'd in 3 rounds by Rustico Torrecampo
Don't let the door hit you in the @ss on the way out Jean Claude Van Damme (calling you that because an idiot like you doesn't deserve the monikor of a legend like Bruce Lee).
Bye bye now :lickish:
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Re: mayweather vs castillo
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Originally Posted by skyler
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Originally Posted by brucelee
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Originally Posted by skyler
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Originally Posted by brucelee
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Originally Posted by Bukom Battler
Very close fight in which an argument could be made for either fighter depending on how your score the fight. I think Mayweather said he had a shoulder injury. The second time he had no injury and clearly won.
This is probably one of the reasons why there is some doubts on Mayweather being number one. He can't always convince everybody that he has won the fight. Pacquaio, on the other hand, had won his fights convincingly against Morales, MAB, Solis,Ledwaba,etc. Mayweather is very skilled but not very convincing. I love to watch his fights though.
The reason that's a ludicrous statement is the fact that Pacquaio has flat out lost before, more than once. At worst, even if Floyd would have lost the decision in this fight, how would that place Manny above him, considering he also has lost? Not to mention there was no rematch clause in that fight and Floyd immediately gave Castillo a rematch and beat him undisputedly.
Please research well on the statement in bold and italics above. About those Pacquaio's losses before commenting on those losses.Thank you in advance for doing my suggested research. O0
Manny Pacquaio, KO'd in 3 rounds by Medgeen Singerat
Manny Pacquaio, KO'd in 3 rounds by Rustico Torrecampo
Don't let the door hit you in the @ss on the way out Jean Claude Van Damme (calling you that because an idiot like you doesn't deserve the monikor of a legend like Bruce Lee).
Bye bye now :lickish:
Damn Bruce, you just got OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: mayweather vs castillo
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Originally Posted by skyler
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Originally Posted by brucelee
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Originally Posted by skyler
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Originally Posted by brucelee
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Originally Posted by Bukom Battler
Very close fight in which an argument could be made for either fighter depending on how your score the fight. I think Mayweather said he had a shoulder injury. The second time he had no injury and clearly won.
This is probably one of the reasons why there is some doubts on Mayweather being number one. He can't always convince everybody that he has won the fight. Pacquaio, on the other hand, had won his fights convincingly against Morales, MAB, Solis,Ledwaba,etc. Mayweather is very skilled but not very convincing. I love to watch his fights though.
The reason that's a ludicrous statement is the fact that Pacquaio has flat out lost before, more than once. At worst, even if Floyd would have lost the decision in this fight, how would that place Manny above him, considering he also has lost? Not to mention there was no rematch clause in that fight and Floyd immediately gave Castillo a rematch and beat him undisputedly.
Please research well on the statement in bold and italics above. About those Pacquaio's losses before commenting on those losses.Thank you in advance for doing my suggested research. O0
Manny Pacquaio, KO'd in 3 rounds by Medgeen Singerat
Manny Pacquaio, KO'd in 3 rounds by Rustico Torrecampo
Don't let the door hit you in the @ss on the way out Jean Claude Van Damme (calling you that because an idiot like you doesn't deserve the monikor of a legend like Bruce Lee).
Bye bye now :lickish:
I think what he was getting at when he told you to do your research was its a well known fact that Pacquiao was KO'ed on a punch that should have been called a low blow in his fight with Rustico Torrecampo. Youtube video below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNdhQDD6PHs
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Originally Posted by skyler
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Very close fight in which an argument could be made for either fighter depending on how your score the fight. I think Mayweather said he had a shoulder injury. The second time he had no injury and clearly won.
This is probably one of the reasons why there is some doubts on Mayweather being number one. He can't always convince everybody that he has won the fight. Pacquaio, on the other hand, had won his fights convincingly against Morales, MAB, Solis,Ledwaba,etc. Mayweather is very skilled but not very convincing. I love to watch his fights though.
The reason that's a ludicrous statement is the fact that Pacquaio has flat out lost before, more than once. At worst, even if Floyd would have lost the decision in this fight, how would that place Manny above him, considering he also has lost? Not to mention there was no rematch clause in that fight and Floyd immediately gave Castillo a rematch and beat him undisputedly.
Please research well on the statement in bold and italics above. About those Pacquaio's losses before commenting on those losses.Thank you in advance for doing my suggested research. O0
Manny Pacquaio, KO'd in 3 rounds by Medgeen Singerat
Manny Pacquaio, KO'd in 3 rounds by Rustico Torrecampo
Don't let the door hit you in the @ss on the way out Jean Claude Van Damme (calling you that because an idiot like you doesn't deserve the monikor of a legend like Bruce Lee).
Bye bye now :lickish:
Damn Bruce, you just got OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Before the sad clicking starts, I said to that poor researcher to research well. He has only given me records of PAcquaio's losses. Not the story behind.... Now regarding the owning part, the guy just hit and run and was too afraid to fight me in legit debate. ;)
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Originally Posted by Bukom Battler
Very close fight in which an argument could be made for either fighter depending on how your score the fight. I think Mayweather said he had a shoulder injury. The second time he had no injury and clearly won.
This is probably one of the reasons why there is some doubts on Mayweather being number one. He can't always convince everybody that he has won the fight. Pacquaio, on the other hand, had won his fights convincingly against Morales, MAB, Solis,Ledwaba,etc. Mayweather is very skilled but not very convincing. I love to watch his fights though.
The reason that's a ludicrous statement is the fact that Pacquaio has flat out lost before, more than once. At worst, even if Floyd would have lost the decision in this fight, how would that place Manny above him, considering he also has lost? Not to mention there was no rematch clause in that fight and Floyd immediately gave Castillo a rematch and beat him undisputedly.
Please research well on the statement in bold and italics above. About those Pacquaio's losses before commenting on those losses.Thank you in advance for doing my suggested research. O0
Manny Pacquaio, KO'd in 3 rounds by Medgeen Singerat
Manny Pacquaio, KO'd in 3 rounds by Rustico Torrecampo
Don't let the door hit you in the @ss on the way out Jean Claude Van Damme (calling you that because an idiot like you doesn't deserve the monikor of a legend like Bruce Lee).
Bye bye now :lickish:
I think what he was getting at when he told you to do your research was its a well known fact that Pacquiao was KO'ed on a punch that should have been called a low blow in his fight with Rustico Torrecampo. Youtube video below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNdhQDD6PHs
I'm aware of that my friend. The fact of the matter is that Floyd Mayweather was hit with low blows by Zab Judah(who in case you didn't notice happens to be my all time favorite fighter). The difference, my friend, is that Floyd didn't lay down like a woman in labor and take the 10 count, he instead decided to finish the fight ;)
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CC from me Swice. You have done your research. Dig deeper and you will uncover more.Nice man.I owe you one... I don't forget my debt. O0
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Originally Posted by skyler
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Originally Posted by brucelee
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Originally Posted by skyler
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Originally Posted by Bukom Battler
Very close fight in which an argument could be made for either fighter depending on how your score the fight. I think Mayweather said he had a shoulder injury. The second time he had no injury and clearly won.
This is probably one of the reasons why there is some doubts on Mayweather being number one. He can't always convince everybody that he has won the fight. Pacquaio, on the other hand, had won his fights convincingly against Morales, MAB, Solis,Ledwaba,etc. Mayweather is very skilled but not very convincing. I love to watch his fights though.
The reason that's a ludicrous statement is the fact that Pacquaio has flat out lost before, more than once. At worst, even if Floyd would have lost the decision in this fight, how would that place Manny above him, considering he also has lost? Not to mention there was no rematch clause in that fight and Floyd immediately gave Castillo a rematch and beat him undisputedly.
Please research well on the statement in bold and italics above. About those Pacquaio's losses before commenting on those losses.Thank you in advance for doing my suggested research. O0
Manny Pacquaio, KO'd in 3 rounds by Medgeen Singerat
Manny Pacquaio, KO'd in 3 rounds by Rustico Torrecampo
Don't let the door hit you in the @ss on the way out Jean Claude Van Damme (calling you that because an idiot like you doesn't deserve the monikor of a legend like Bruce Lee).
Bye bye now :lickish:
I think what he was getting at when he told you to do your research was its a well known fact that Pacquiao was KO'ed on a punch that should have been called a low blow in his fight with Rustico Torrecampo. Youtube video below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNdhQDD6PHs
I'm aware of that my friend. The fact of the matter is that Floyd Mayweather was hit with low blows by Zab Judah(who in case you didn't notice happens to be my all time favorite fighter). The difference, my friend, is that Floyd didn't lay down like a woman in labor and take the 10 count, he instead decided to finish the fight ;)
Don't call me friend. I don 't know you. My friends are intellectuals and they know something about boxing. Let me tickle mayweather's b*alls with a super punch and if he doesn't go down crying and panting, I will let you tickle mine. O0
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Originally Posted by skyler
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Originally Posted by skyler
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Originally Posted by Bukom Battler
Very close fight in which an argument could be made for either fighter depending on how your score the fight. I think Mayweather said he had a shoulder injury. The second time he had no injury and clearly won.
This is probably one of the reasons why there is some doubts on Mayweather being number one. He can't always convince everybody that he has won the fight. Pacquaio, on the other hand, had won his fights convincingly against Morales, MAB, Solis,Ledwaba,etc. Mayweather is very skilled but not very convincing. I love to watch his fights though.
The reason that's a ludicrous statement is the fact that Pacquaio has flat out lost before, more than once. At worst, even if Floyd would have lost the decision in this fight, how would that place Manny above him, considering he also has lost? Not to mention there was no rematch clause in that fight and Floyd immediately gave Castillo a rematch and beat him undisputedly.
Please research well on the statement in bold and italics above. About those Pacquaio's losses before commenting on those losses.Thank you in advance for doing my suggested research. O0
Manny Pacquaio, KO'd in 3 rounds by Medgeen Singerat
Manny Pacquaio, KO'd in 3 rounds by Rustico Torrecampo
Don't let the door hit you in the @ss on the way out Jean Claude Van Damme (calling you that because an idiot like you doesn't deserve the monikor of a legend like Bruce Lee).
Bye bye now :lickish:
I think what he was getting at when he told you to do your research was its a well known fact that Pacquiao was KO'ed on a punch that should have been called a low blow in his fight with Rustico Torrecampo. Youtube video below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNdhQDD6PHs
I'm aware of that my friend. The fact of the matter is that Floyd Mayweather was hit with low blows by Zab Judah(who in case you didn't notice happens to be my all time favorite fighter). The difference, my friend, is that Floyd didn't lay down like a woman in labor and take the 10 count, he instead decided to finish the fight ;)
Don't call me friend. I don 't know you. My friends are intellectuals and they know something about boxing. Let me tickle mayweather's b*alls with a super punch and if he doesn't go down crying and panting, I will let you tickle mine. O0
No one's calling you a friend queer. I was replying to swice, which in case you had an ounce of common sense, you would be able to see, considering he's the one who posted the video, idiot ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Very close fight in which an argument could be made for either fighter depending on how your score the fight. I think Mayweather said he had a shoulder injury. The second time he had no injury and clearly won.
This is probably one of the reasons why there is some doubts on Mayweather being number one. He can't always convince everybody that he has won the fight. Pacquaio, on the other hand, had won his fights convincingly against Morales, MAB, Solis,Ledwaba,etc. Mayweather is very skilled but not very convincing. I love to watch his fights though.
The reason that's a ludicrous statement is the fact that Pacquaio has flat out lost before, more than once. At worst, even if Floyd would have lost the decision in this fight, how would that place Manny above him, considering he also has lost? Not to mention there was no rematch clause in that fight and Floyd immediately gave Castillo a rematch and beat him undisputedly.
Please research well on the statement in bold and italics above. About those Pacquaio's losses before commenting on those losses.Thank you in advance for doing my suggested research. O0
Manny Pacquaio, KO'd in 3 rounds by Medgeen Singerat
Manny Pacquaio, KO'd in 3 rounds by Rustico Torrecampo
Don't let the door hit you in the @ss on the way out Jean Claude Van Damme (calling you that because an idiot like you doesn't deserve the monikor of a legend like Bruce Lee).
Bye bye now :lickish:
I think what he was getting at when he told you to do your research was its a well known fact that Pacquiao was KO'ed on a punch that should have been called a low blow in his fight with Rustico Torrecampo. Youtube video below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNdhQDD6PHs
I'm aware of that my friend. The fact of the matter is that Floyd Mayweather was hit with low blows by Zab Judah(who in case you didn't notice happens to be my all time favorite fighter). The difference, my friend, is that Floyd didn't lay down like a woman in labor and take the 10 count, he instead decided to finish the fight ;)
Don't call me friend. I don 't know you. My friends are intellectuals and they know something about boxing. Let me tickle mayweather's b*alls with a super punch and if he doesn't go down crying and panting, I will let you tickle mine. O0
No one's calling you a friend queer. I was replying to swice, which in case you had an ounce of common sense, you would be able to see, considering he's the one who posted the video, idiot ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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;D ;D ;D ;DDAAAAMN!!! Van Damme just got owned AGAIN!!!! lmao!!!! Van damme, quit while you're behind. You lost this argument a long time ago.
ps Don't bother responding. You're officially on my ignore list ;D ;D
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anyway, good day to you skyler. may you be at peace with yourself. You need some good relaxation man.you're obviously tensed.got to drop the topic. bad words are coming out already.
did you know that bad mouthing is a sign of a psychological damage?
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anyway, good day to you skyler. may you be at peace with yourself. You need some good relaxation man.you're obviously tensed.got to drop the topic. bad words are coming out already.
did you know that bad mouthing is a sign of a psychological damage?
Just give up, kid.
You got pimped real bad on this thread. It's time to move on.......
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Yeah, I must admit that. It's weird that someone owns you for being intelligent and not making hasty generalizations.
I told him to make a thorough research first being commenting. He presented me with shallow ones. yeah I must admit he owned me with his shallowness.Got to admit i made myself a moron by talking to a m...n. :-X
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ok i rewatched this fight and it was a damn close fight i scored as impartially as possible so heres my score card.
Floyd 10 10 10 10 9 9 9 10 9 9 10 9 114
Castillo 9 9 9 9 10 10 10 8 10 10 9 10 113
In round 8th i had floyd winning it and with the point deduction it as a 10-8 round in the 10th i had it floyd winning it but scored it level minus the point from Floyd so 10 - 9 round
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Yeah, I must admit that. It's weird that someone owns you for being intelligent and not making hasty generalizations.
I told him to make a thorough research first being commenting. He presented me with shallow ones. yeah I must admit he owned me with his shallowness.Got to admit i made myself a moron by talking to a m...n. :-X
I see you changed your name from "Bruce Lee," to "Venus." I can now assume that you are a woman. (Being that Venus is the goddess of sex, or love, or something like that)
Either way, you're gonna have a real hard time arguing that Pac is p4p #1 over Floyd.
Good luck :-*
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I do not claim nor do I argue that Pac is number 1. Please go back to my statements and my statements in other posts.I believe that mayweather is number 1 pound for pound. The problem with him being number one is that some people are not really convinced because his fights are sometimes very close. Unlike Pacquaio whose current fights were determined by knockouts and beatings of his opponents. I hope I am not misunderstood here.
I changed my name to diffuse the heat. O0
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Very close fight in which an argument could be made for either fighter depending on how your score the fight. I think Mayweather said he had a shoulder injury. The second time he had no injury and clearly won.
This is probably one of the reasons why there are some doubts on Mayweather being number one. He can't always convince everybody that he has won the fight. Pacquaio, on the other hand, had won his fights convincingly against Morales, MAB, Solis,Ledwaba,etc. Mayweather is very skilled but not very convincing. I love to watch his fights though.
This was my statement. My post in other topics will give you an idea that I consider Mayweather P4P#1.I was just giving an assessment on why other people don't consider him p4p #1.
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I do not claim nor do I argue that Pac is number 1. Please go back to my statements and my statements in other posts.I believe that mayweather is number 1 pound for pound. The problem with him being number one is that some people are not really convinced because his fights are sometimes very close. Unlike Pacquaio whose current fights were determined by knockouts and beatings of his opponents. I hope I am not misunderstood here.
I changed my name to diffuse the heat. O0
smooth
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I do not claim nor do I argue that Pac is number 1. Please go back to my statements and my statements in other posts.I believe that mayweather is number 1 pound for pound. The problem with him being number one is that some people are not really convinced because his fights are sometimes very close. Unlike Pacquaio whose current fights were determined by knockouts and beatings of his opponents. I hope I am not misunderstood here.
I changed my name to diffuse the heat. O0
smooth
cc from me. O0
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CC from me Swice. You have done your research. Dig deeper and you will uncover more.Nice man.I owe you one... I don't forget my debt. O0
CC returned. And by dig deeper are you referring to Pacquiao losing his belt on the scales for not being able to make weight for his fight with Medgoen Singsurat?
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Very close fight in which an argument could be made for either fighter depending on how your score the fight. I think Mayweather said he had a shoulder injury. The second time he had no injury and clearly won.
This is probably one of the reasons why there is some doubts on Mayweather being number one. He can't always convince everybody that he has won the fight. Pacquaio, on the other hand, had won his fights convincingly against Morales, MAB, Solis,Ledwaba,etc. Mayweather is very skilled but not very convincing. I love to watch his fights though.
The reason that's a ludicrous statement is the fact that Pacquaio has flat out lost before, more than once. At worst, even if Floyd would have lost the decision in this fight, how would that place Manny above him, considering he also has lost? Not to mention there was no rematch clause in that fight and Floyd immediately gave Castillo a rematch and beat him undisputedly.
Please research well on the statement in bold and italics above. About those Pacquaio's losses before commenting on those losses.Thank you in advance for doing my suggested research. O0
Manny Pacquaio, KO'd in 3 rounds by Medgeen Singerat
Manny Pacquaio, KO'd in 3 rounds by Rustico Torrecampo
Don't let the door hit you in the @ss on the way out Jean Claude Van Damme (calling you that because an idiot like you doesn't deserve the monikor of a legend like Bruce Lee).
Bye bye now :lickish:
I think what he was getting at when he told you to do your research was its a well known fact that Pacquiao was KO'ed on a punch that should have been called a low blow in his fight with Rustico Torrecampo. Youtube video below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNdhQDD6PHs
I'm aware of that my friend. The fact of the matter is that Floyd Mayweather was hit with low blows by Zab Judah(who in case you didn't notice happens to be my all time favorite fighter). The difference, my friend, is that Floyd didn't lay down like a woman in labor and take the 10 count, he instead decided to finish the fight ;)
Point taken. But that was a vicious low blow and looks like he got caught in the leg as well as in the pelvic region. When he gets up he looks totally out of it.
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Re: mayweather vs castillo
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Originally Posted by ACEA
ok i rewatched this fight and it was a damn close fight i scored as impartially as possible so heres my score card.
Floyd 10 10 10 10 9 9 9 10 9 9 10 9 114
Castillo 9 9 9 9 10 10 10 8 10 10 9 10 113
In round 8th i had floyd winning it and with the point deduction it as a 10-8 round in the 10th i had it floyd winning it but scored it level minus the point from Floyd so 10 - 9 round
Castillo clearly won the 11th round he outlanded Mayweather and worked harder than Mayweather in that round and also the 10-8 round you gave Floyd was Castillos round.
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Re: mayweather vs castillo
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
I scored this fight a draw. Floyd clearly won the second fight.
No way was the fight a draw (how was you scoring it? on the loudness of the boos as Floyd ran from Castillo?) and in no way does Floyd winning the second fight mean anything for the first fight which is what the thread is about.
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Re: mayweather vs castillo
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Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
I scored this fight a draw. Floyd clearly won the second fight.
No way was the fight a draw (how was you scoring it) and in no way does Floyd winning the second fight mean anything for the first fight which is what the thread is about.
It's very possible that some scored the fight a draw. If you ask around, you would be hard pressed to find anybody that had Castillo ahead by more than 2 rounds.
Personally, I had Castillo up by one. Like I said before, the fight has never been viewed as such a big robbery. What the big debate was/is the ridiculous scoring of the fight, and I totally agree with that.
BUT
Unlike Ricky Hatton vs. Luis Collazo (also highly contested in case you forgot ;)), Mayweather gave Castillo a rematch in his next fight and clearly defeated him (that's what a champion does)........ unlike Ricky Hatton who opted to run back down to a lower weight class rather than try to defend his belt.
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Re: mayweather vs castillo
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Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
I scored this fight a draw. Floyd clearly won the second fight.
No way was the fight a draw (how was you scoring it? on the loudness of the boos as Floyd ran from Castillo?) and in no way does Floyd winning the second fight mean anything for the first fight which is what the thread is about.
Well arguement could be made Floyd edged it out he did land the more cleaner punches and possiby won the first 4 rounds he stayed on the ropes too much in later stages in the rematch he learnt his lesson and stayed off the ropes all the time and thats how he was able to beat Castillo quite comfortably by 3 rounds on my card.
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Re: mayweather vs castillo
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
I scored this fight a draw. Floyd clearly won the second fight.
No way was the fight a draw (how was you scoring it? on the loudness of the boos as Floyd ran from Castillo?) and in no way does Floyd winning the second fight mean anything for the first fight which is what the thread is about.
Well arguement could be made Floyd edged it out he did land the more cleaner punches and possiby won the first 4 rounds he stayed on the ropes too much on later stages in rematch he learnt his lesson and stayed off the ropes all the time and thats how he was able to beat Castillo quite comfortably by 3 rounds on my card.
Yep, but he still lost the fight my man ;) Castillo was much more aggressive, landed more punches and deserved the win in my eyes. He worked his bollocks off, I felt really sorry for him.
Floyd won the second fight no question I had him up by about 3 rounds if I remember right. Been a while since I seen it.
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Re: mayweather vs castillo
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Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
I scored this fight a draw. Floyd clearly won the second fight.
No way was the fight a draw (how was you scoring it? on the loudness of the boos as Floyd ran from Castillo?) and in no way does Floyd winning the second fight mean anything for the first fight which is what the thread is about.
Well arguement could be made Floyd edged it out he did land the more cleaner punches and possiby won the first 4 rounds he stayed on the ropes too much on later stages in rematch he learnt his lesson and stayed off the ropes all the time and thats how he was able to beat Castillo quite comfortably by 3 rounds on my card.
Yep, but he still lost the fight my man ;) Castillo was much more aggressive, landed more punches and deserved the win in my eyes. He worked his bollocks off, I felt really sorry for him.
Floyd won the second fight no question I had him up by about 3 rounds if I remember right. Been a while since I seen it.
Well i think he lost too i watched it again today i gave Mayweather the first 4 rounds and some rounds were close but Castillo's effectice aggression is what won it in my eyes he was pressuring Mayweather in later stages and landing some great body shots i had Castillo ahead by 1 but arguement could be made for a draw.
I mean i watched Hatton vs Collazo ages ago and had Hatton winning by a point but i rewatched it lately and had Collazo winning by a point Hatton was very lucky to get razor thin decision in America.
