Red Letter Date for America: We deported an Illegal Immigrant!

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Illegal immigrant deported after leaving church
Activist and national symbol for illegal immigrant parents leaves son behind
Jacqueline Jackson, wife of the Rev. Jesse Jackson, right, speaks with Elvira Arellano, an illegal immigrant who had taken up sanctuary in Chicago for the past year. Arellano was arrested and deported to Mexico over the weekend.

Updated: 11:54 a.m. ET Aug 20, 2007
LOS ANGELES - An illegal immigrant who took refuge in a Chicago church for a year to avoid being separated from her U.S.-born son has been deported to Mexico, the church’s pastor said.

Elvira Arellano became an activist and a national symbol for illegal immigrant parents as she defied her deportation order and spoke out from her religious sanctuary. She held a news conference last week to announce that she would finally leave the church to try to lobby U.S. lawmakers for change.

She had just spoken at a Los Angeles rally when she was arrested Sunday outside Our Lady Queen of Angels church and deported, said the Rev. Walter Coleman, pastor of Adalberto United Methodist Church in Chicago, where Arellano had been living.

“She is free and in Tijuana,” said Coleman, who said he spoke to her on the phone. “She is in good spirits. She is ready to continue the struggle against the separation of families from the other side of the border.”

Her 8-year-old son, Saul, is now living with Coleman’s family. During a news conference in Los Angeles after Arellano’s arrest, the boy hid behind the pastor’s wife and wiped away tears.

Arellano had said on Saturday that she was not afraid of being taken into custody by immigration agents.

“From the time I took sanctuary, the possibility has existed that they arrest me in the place and time they want,” she said in Spanish. “I only have two choices. I either go to my country, Mexico, or stay and keep fighting. I decided to stay and fight.”

Second deportation
Arellano, 32, arrived in Washington state illegally in 1997. She was deported to Mexico shortly afterward, but returned and moved to Illinois in 2000, taking a job cleaning planes at O’Hare International Airport.

She was arrested in 2002 at O’Hare and convicted of working under a false Social Security number. She was to surrender to authorities last August but instead sought refuge at the church on Aug. 15, 2006.

She had not left the church property until she decided to travel by car to Los Angeles, Coleman said.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement confirmed her arrest and said she was deported Sunday night through San Diego’s San Ysidro border crossing. The discussions there included Luis Cabrera, Mexico’s general consul in San Diego, and Robin Baker, ICE’s director of detention and removals in San Diego, ICE spokeswoman Lauren Mack said.

“Obviously this was a woman who didn’t want to go. They wanted to make sure any possible legal avenue that may have been open to her was closed,” Mack said. “This was a very, very sensitive removal for us as well as Mexico.”

Outside an ICE office in Chicago on Monday, about 50 people protested Arellano’s deportation. “It wakes us up to do something,” said Bertha Rangel, who brought her three young children to the rally.

Arellano is staying with a friend in Tijuana, Coleman said. He said she had brought to light her struggle, and for that, “she has won a victory.”

Vows to fight from Mexico
“She’ll be organizing on the Mexican side of the border while we’re organizing in the (United) States,” Coleman said Monday. “She’ll be talking to organizations throughout Mexico and congressmen in Mexico City.”

Coleman said he and other activists will continue Arellano’s original plan to go to Washington, D.C., and take part in a prayer meeting and rally for immigration reform at the Capitol on Sept. 12.

Immigration activists promised protests and vigils to support Arellano.

“We are sad, but at the same time we are angry,” said Javier Rodriguez, a Chicago immigration activist who worked with Arellano. “How dare they arrest this woman?”

Anti-illegal immigrant groups said the arrest was long overdue.

“Just because the woman has gone public and made an issue of the fact that she is defying law doesn’t mean the government doesn’t have to do its job,” said Ira Mehlman of the Federation for American Immigration Reform, which favors limits on immigration.

Arellano has repeatedly called for a stop to immigration raids that break up families with some members who are in the U.S. legally and others illegally. She has said her son would be deprived of his rights as a U.S. citizen if he had to go to Mexico simply because she did.

While being arrested, Arellano spoke briefly with her son before submitting to authorities, said Emma Lozano, Coleman’s wife and head of immigration rights group Centro Sin Fronteras in Chicago.

“She calmed him down, hugged him and gave him a blessing,” Lozano said


Jesse Jackson can kiss my ass and I hope this woman learns her fucking lesson, DON'T COME HERE ILLEGALLY!!!!!

It's sad that she's split up from her kid BUT at the same time she knew the rules, she had been deported before....yet she did it again! If you like it so much here all you have to do is follow the rules.

It's about time some illegals get shipped back to their countries.


And if you read carefully you might see she doesn't even fucking speak English

can u teach us how to do that ??

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can u teach us how to do that ??

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We're still learning ourselves....hence the enormous attention I am giving to it.


I'm just surprised MSNBC and Rueters called her an ILLEGAL immigrant because it made us sound horrible for the longest time.....they just said we deported IMMIGRANTS and we're anti-immigration.


I'm PRO immigration but anti-ILLEGAL immigration....there is a huge difference

i feel like that i dont give a shit who lives here as long as its legally

well i cant really my kids are mixed race

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i feel like that i dont give a shit who lives here as long as its legally

well i cant really my kids are mixed race

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EXACTLY, I mean what should I expect from someone who's first act in this country is against the law???

It's a matter of trust and respect for the nation you're moving to it goes along with having a job and learning the language of the country you are moving to as well.

Youhave to assimilate to some degree....I don't care if at home you speak Spanish or Chinese or whatever in your home but when you're out in public try your best to speak english and people will appreciate the effort.

If illegals made half as much of an effort to assimilate as they did sneaking into the country then people like myself may not have such a bad view of them.

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lol but i gotta say wen it comes to uk
if i was from a diff far away country id do everything i cud tocome here

id live on a boat for6mths if i had too

free electric /gas house food medicalcare schooling
it like winning the lottery ! ;D

I must admit I kind of feel sorry for these people. I know it's a drain on our economy and that we need to be stopping it but at the end of the day most of these people come from piss poor shitty backwards countries and they just want the chance of a better life for themselves and their familes.

I try and think what I would do if I was to have been born in Albania or Iraq for example. Personally I think I'd be wanting to get to a land of milk and honey at all costs.

It's a sad situation all around I think.


What would be best is if we could operate an exchange programme, say swap our Ian Huntley's and Myra Hindleys for poor destitute people from other countries.

As most third world countries have the death penalty it wouldn't be a problem. They would pay no upkeep for our worst criminal scum, and in fact could make some money by selling tickets for the public stonings.

Plus our countries would win as well as it's surely cheaper to give benefits to an Afghan or a Estonian than it is to keep Huntley in a isolated protected cell.

Whose with me?

i second that shit bilbo and
if kids cud vote i'd giv u there 5 too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!



but we aint talkin bout legal immigrants

real refugees


but the ILLEGALS who come in anyway

This is not immigration it's an invasion.Americans are tired of being put upon.Send his little ass with her.

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This is not immigration it's an invasion.Americans are tired of being put upon.Send his little ass with her.

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When you consider groups like La Raza and the ACLU and all the immigration lawyers and protesters it's pretty much an invasion.


What I can't stand is they love being here and want to stay but wave Mexican flags at protests! That's not making me like them any better.

And Mexico isn't a 3rd world country, it's got it's poor parts but it has it's very good parts too

Congratulations to our government for making the first step up everest.

You do realize tho that MTV has now banned the word suicide from tv because the word has been "linked" to children killing themselves (maybe if their mom didn't raise them to be such a pussy, this wouldn't happen). And Imus's new job isn't without strings attached. FakeRev. Hipocrite gave him 5 rules for working HIS old job. There's so many domestic problems that we'll never fix them unless people quit being stupid about things.

Imus will come back soon enough and he'll be just as crazy as he was before.

All Al Sharpton and all the 'I am shocked and appalled" crowd did by getting rid of Imus was make me a Rush Limbaugh listener.

It's amazing when kids have 'Bong Hits For Jesus' signs it's FREE SPEECH but when someone calls someone a 'nappy headed ho' it's racist and sexist and offensive.


Liberalism is a mental disorder, it's very true, their way of thinking is insane. They act like they are all about helping minorities and poor people but when was the last time they actually did something for them? John Edwards is preaching at people about poverty while he's having THOUSAND DOLLAR HAIRCUTS!!!!! And people take him seriously????

:) cc Lyle

i wouldnt complain if someone said it to me but i wud beat thier fucking head in





















with a hoe (just to prove a point) ;Dh

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i wouldnt complain if someone said it to me but i wud beat thier fucking head in





















with a hoe (just to prove a point) ;Dh

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Understood Kat, but at some point you have to not care about what some people say and think....if you care about what EVERYONE all over the world says and thinks then you're just never going to accomplish anything.

Which is why teachers always tell you "Don't worry about what _____ is doing, worry about what you are doing"

Kat, a word shouldn't rule your life is all I am getting at.

The same people that say "IMPEACH BUSH" or show someone in a movie assasinating President Bush as a means of free speech are just shocked that someone could still use a racial slur today or even call a woman a ho.....oh my gosh, how dare they.

In the end it's just a word and what's that old saying "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me"......this world is full of Politically Correct WHIMPS who want to ruin everyone's freedoms and create 1984 new speech like "the n-word" or "the h-word"


Sadly enough whenever I see Harry Potter and they don't say Voldemort I think of the word "n*****" because no one dares speak it for fear of what will happen.....well perhaps we should move beyond our past and take the power out of that word.....but maybe that's just me.

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I must admit I kind of feel sorry for these people. I know it's a drain on our economy and that we need to be stopping it but at the end of the day most of these people come from piss poor shitty backwards countries and they just want the chance of a better life for themselves and their familes.

I try and think what I would do if I was to have been born in Albania or Iraq for example. Personally I think I'd be wanting to get to a land of milk and honey at all costs.

It's a sad situation all around I think.


What would be best is if we could operate an exchange programme, say swap our Ian Huntley's and Myra Hindleys for poor destitute people from other countries.

As most third world countries have the death penalty it wouldn't be a problem. They would pay no upkeep for our worst criminal scum, and in fact could make some money by selling tickets for the public stonings.

Plus our countries would win as well as it's surely cheaper to give benefits to an Afghan or a Estonian than it is to keep Huntley in a isolated protected cell.

Whose with me?

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Sorry but lifes a bitch - thye may be born into a shit country but take a look around, look at all the tramps (bums for you yanks:P) the poor fucking run away kids who ditched a shit life here and ended up on the streets and stay there...

They only way i will ever accept immigration is when it will benefit the country - when unemployment is at an all time low, and key jobs need filling and there are not enough people with that skill to do it, then let them in the country and give something back... otherwise get the fuck out and stop costing me so much!

Don't get me wrong, i got no real probs with people eloping etc... yanks coming here, brits going there, auis coming here to serve me in bars (;D) we cancell eachother out, thats all cool culture has to mix... but when i got a bunch of people (who mostly i don;t blame) coming here taking jobs that some leeching lazy cunt in the local job centre thinking he so good for it and my taxes going to pay his way... it's bullshit... they aint needed here...

I mean it pisses me off the "lack of doctors" so all these idians and what not are coming here and i mean ffs i go into hospital i want to get seen but someone who is able to tell me whats wrong with me without me haing to ask him to rapest his fucking self 10 times.. sort it out, bring out a scheme to get more brits into the job if there are a shortage, make um sign to stay and work her eon the NHS for ex years since it costs so little to get the quals...

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I must admit I kind of feel sorry for these people. I know it's a drain on our economy and that we need to be stopping it but at the end of the day most of these people come from piss poor shitty backwards countries and they just want the chance of a better life for themselves and their familes.

I try and think what I would do if I was to have been born in Albania or Iraq for example. Personally I think I'd be wanting to get to a land of milk and honey at all costs.

It's a sad situation all around I think.


What would be best is if we could operate an exchange programme, say swap our Ian Huntley's and Myra Hindleys for poor destitute people from other countries.

As most third world countries have the death penalty it wouldn't be a problem. They would pay no upkeep for our worst criminal scum, and in fact could make some money by selling tickets for the public stonings.

Plus our countries would win as well as it's surely cheaper to give benefits to an Afghan or a Estonian than it is to keep Huntley in a isolated protected cell.

Whose with me?

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Sorry but lifes a bitch - thye may be born into a S*** country but take a look around, look at all the tramps (bums for you yanks:P) the poor F****** run away kids who ditched a S*** life here and ended up on the streets and stay there...

They only way i will ever accept immigration is when it will benefit the country - when unemployment is at an all time low, and key jobs need filling and there are not enough people with that skill to do it, then let them in the country and give something back... otherwise get the F*** out and stop costing me so much!

Don't get me wrong, i got no real probs with people eloping etc... yanks coming here, brits going there, auis coming here to serve me in bars (;D) we cancell eachother out, thats all cool culture has to mix... but when i got a bunch of people (who mostly i don;t blame) coming here taking jobs that some leeching lazy c*** in the local job centre thinking he so good for it and my taxes going to pay his way... it's bullshit... they aint needed here...

I mean it pisses me off the "lack of doctors" so all these idians and what not are coming here and i mean ffs i go into hospital i want to get seen but someone who is able to tell me whats wrong with me without me haing to ask him to rapest his F****** self 10 times.. sort it out, bring out a scheme to get more brits into the job if there are a shortage, make um sign to stay and work her eon the NHS for ex years since it costs so little to get the quals...

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thats the thing\preme

Ppl here think they too fucking good to shovel shit and serve burgers


immigrants dont care they do these jobs!!
that dont make it thier fault that they are willin to do owt to support thier family

it not thier fault either that some skanky trampy drug taking bastard who was born here with scruffy kids dont wanna work
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I must admit I kind of feel sorry for these people. I know it's a drain on our economy and that we need to be stopping it but at the end of the day most of these people come from piss poor shitty backwards countries and they just want the chance of a better life for themselves and their familes.

I try and think what I would do if I was to have been born in Albania or Iraq for example. Personally I think I'd be wanting to get to a land of milk and honey at all costs.

It's a sad situation all around I think.


What would be best is if we could operate an exchange programme, say swap our Ian Huntley's and Myra Hindleys for poor destitute people from other countries.

As most third world countries have the death penalty it wouldn't be a problem. They would pay no upkeep for our worst criminal scum, and in fact could make some money by selling tickets for the public stonings.

Plus our countries would win as well as it's surely cheaper to give benefits to an Afghan or a Estonian than it is to keep Huntley in a isolated protected cell.

Whose with me?

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Sorry but lifes a bitch - thye may be born into a S*** country but take a look around, look at all the tramps (bums for you yanks:P) the poor F****** run away kids who ditched a S*** life here and ended up on the streets and stay there...

They only way i will ever accept immigration is when it will benefit the country - when unemployment is at an all time low, and key jobs need filling and there are not enough people with that skill to do it, then let them in the country and give something back... otherwise get the F*** out and stop costing me so much!

Don't get me wrong, i got no real probs with people eloping etc... yanks coming here, brits going there, auis coming here to serve me in bars (;D) we cancell eachother out, thats all cool culture has to mix... but when i got a bunch of people (who mostly i don;t blame) coming here taking jobs that some leeching lazy c*** in the local job centre thinking he so good for it and my taxes going to pay his way... it's bullshit... they aint needed here...

I mean it pisses me off the "lack of doctors" so all these idians and what not are coming here and i mean ffs i go into hospital i want to get seen but someone who is able to tell me whats wrong with me without me haing to ask him to rapest his F****** self 10 times.. sort it out, bring out a scheme to get more brits into the job if there are a shortage, make um sign to stay and work her eon the NHS for ex years since it costs so little to get the quals...

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thats the thing\preme

Ppl here think they too F****** good to shovel S*** and serve burgers


immigrants dont care they do these jobs!!
that dont make it thier fault that they are willin to do owt to support thier family

it not thier fault either that some skanky trampy drug taking B****** who was born here with scruffy kids dont wanna work
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dunno why they don't round them up and ship them off to some third world country tbh - no fucker would notice or care - they only thing they are good for is 'bum fights' but some prick banned that too! they finaly start to make a living (even if it meant getting the shit beat out of them for a cuppa tea) and they stop it the fucking hypocrisy

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thats the thing\preme

Ppl here think they too fucking good to shovel shit and serve burgers


immigrants dont care they do these jobs!!
that dont make it thier fault that they are willin to do owt to support thier family

it not thier fault either that some skanky trampy drug taking bastard who was born here with scruffy kids dont wanna work
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The market has a way of fixing problems like that.....it's called supply and demand.

Economics 101

Pay attention Kat...you see when something is demanded by the people the companies find a way to supply it.

If there is a high demand and a short supply then the cost goes up

If there is a large supply and a small demand the cost is small.

So let the trash build up in England and the US and let people go without McDonald's for a few months and either the economy will adapt or the jobs will get better pay.


It's the circle of the money....I think Disneyland has a ride dedicated to that

WHat ever happened to the schools lessons to ignore it when somebody calls you a bad name. Way to go soceity for negatively reinforcing what you tryed to prevent. :appl:

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thats the thing\preme

Ppl here think they too F****** good to shovel S*** and serve burgers


immigrants dont care they do these jobs!!
that dont make it thier fault that they are willin to do owt to support thier family

it not thier fault either that some skanky trampy drug taking B****** who was born here with scruffy kids dont wanna work
;D

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The market has a way of fixing problems like that.....it's called supply and demand.

Economics 101

Pay attention Kat...you see when something is demanded by the people the companies find a way to supply it.

If there is a high demand and a short supply then the cost goes up

If there is a large supply and a small demand the cost is small.

So let the trash build up in England and the US and let people go without McDonald's for a few months and either the economy will adapt or the jobs will get better pay.


It's the circle of the money....I think Disneyland has a ride dedicated to that

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dont tell me to pay attention like that LYLE!!
i dont see your name on my birth certificate besides father: :lickish: :lickish: ;)


listen i cant argue that we shouldnt have immigrants at all in this country

we have the Royals ffs :P

and plus my kids are mixed race and im Irish :-\
but my kids dad does have a gr8 job he educates ''naughty kids''

also i can tell u now for a fact these immigrants who have been here yrs and yrs were BROUGHT over from the war time wen a lot of the English men had gone off to war

wen they arrived they picked a passport out of a bucket and that was now officialy them


we give out stuff here for free so evry ones gonna try get a piece legally or illegally

The day is quickly approaching when the global economy in place collapses. I fear that the dollar will go before anything else. Just like the barter system had its limits, so to does the money/credit system. Instead of being able to instantly upgrade anything, we have to phase it in due to economic impact. I have no idea how you one up the money/credit economic system but it needs to be done and preferably sooner than later.

Kat, the way to make even ILLEGALS pay into the tax system is to have a national sales tax and that will also make doing business in the US or Europe or whoever has it CHEAP. But the best thing is it's revenue nuetral which means we'd collect the same amount of taxes just without Income Tax and so on.

This way Social Security and schools and any government programs that Illegals use will be paid for by illegals as long as they actually buy stuff here which I can't see how they would get around that.


I am just surprised that some people actually FEEL GUILTY about Illegal Immigration.....it's insane! They basically STEAL from all the people who do the right thing by paying their taxes.




The Asian market will fold up like a lawn chair and then China will come looking for it's money from the US and well the shit will hit the fan so to speak.

Lyle we already have a sales tax, it's called VAT (Value added tax) and is levied at 17.5%.

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Lyle we already have a sales tax, it's called VAT (Value added tax) and is levied at 17.5%.

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....I'm talking of a 26% sales tax and abolishing all other forms of taxation. It's called The Fair Tax

we already have too many fuckig taxes do u no how much it costs for petrol over here?? :o :o :o


but i get what ur sayin but 26% and aboloshing other taxes here wouldnt amount to the same amount of moni it wud be less than we already pay now!!!

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Lyle we already have a sales tax, it's called VAT (Value added tax) and is levied at 17.5%.

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....I'm talking of a 26% sales tax and abolishing all other forms of taxation. It's called The Fair Tax

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Lyle taxes such as these are called 'regressive'. That is because poor people pay substantially more of a % of their income for items than the rich. this isn't a new concept.
I favor progressive taxes, such as tiered income taxes. Many people think that the extraordinarily wealthy should have more of a burden than the poor, esp. since this wealth is almost always built by exploiting workers, government subsidies, and inheritance.

it's a CONSUMPTION tax .....regressive my ass!

RIDDLE ME THIS WHO BUYS MORE THINGS RICH PEOPLE OR POOR PEOPLE?



....whoever buys more PAYS MORE TAXES....and things that are more expensive cost more money because you pay more taxes

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it's a CONSUMPTION tax .....regressive my a**!

RIDDLE ME THIS WHO BUYS MORE THINGS RICH PEOPLE OR POOR PEOPLE?



....whoever buys more PAYS MORE TAXES....and things that are more expensive cost more money because you pay more taxes

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been watching batman by any chance??? :lickish:

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it's a CONSUMPTION tax .....regressive my a**!

RIDDLE ME THIS WHO BUYS MORE THINGS RICH PEOPLE OR POOR PEOPLE?



....whoever buys more PAYS MORE TAXES....and things that are more expensive cost more money because you pay more taxes

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Of course rich people buy more things........however, percentage wise poor people spend much more than rich people. I.e. they live paycheck to paycheck. So yes it is regressive. I think your cut and dried simplistic agenda is getting in the way of real debate here.

....and what if I told you that the government would give back money EVERY MONTH for everyday expenses like electricity and water and gas and so on?


I still don't see how living paycheck to paycheck fits in? Besides this tax system brings jobs back to the US relieving companies of paying "hidden taxes".

So the job situation gets better for all these poor people....really it's a lot better than taxing the shit out of people who have money.

I look at it this way, if you earn more money and have to pay more taxes....what's the point of trying to earn more money?

Lyle the trickle down theory is dead.

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it works better than taxing the rich because even if you tax the hell out them you still have poor people. Wealthy people are not the enemy here bro...they should be examples for the poor or bad off.

You don't help a failing student by giving them part of a good student's grade, this creates dependency on the system to help people who need to find their own motivation.

As long as they adapt to our Culture (to a certain degree), I don't cre that they're hear

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As long as they adapt to our Culture (to a certain degree), I don't cre that they're hear

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but as it is right now the illegals are a drain on the economy and an insult to those that follow the rules!

Why should people even go through the process of becoming naturalized when it's apparently ok that people come here for free and don't bother learning or adapting or anything

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As long as they adapt to our Culture (to a certain degree), I don't cre that they're hear

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but as it is right now the illegals are a drain on the economy and an insult to those that follow the rules!

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It works both ways. An argument can be made that Illegal immigration is a financial drain on the US. An argument can also be made that without Illegal immigrants working in the fields for less than minimum wage, the cost of produce we purchase every day will increase tremendously. Who else will do this type of manual labor for these wages? Why are people so divided on this subject? Because it's a pick your poison situation. There is no black and white answer there needs to be a compromise from both sides of the fence.( ;)no pun intended) These are hard working people who are just trying to make a better life for their families so I have absolutely nothing against them. I do believe they should attempt to assimilate to the culture, and go through the naturalization process. If you live in the United States your ancestors were immigrants period. This is just history repeating itself.

As I explained earlier goods and services are supply and demand....even if there was NO ONE that wanted to bus tables or be janitors or pick fruits and veggies, if there was a NEED for those jobs to be done prices would be set based on how badly someone wanted the job done. So the "illegals do jobs americans wouldn't do" theory is BULLCRAP because before illegals SOMEBODY WAS DOING THAT JOB!

I follow the rules, I have to follow the rules, and if I do then everyone else should have to follow the rules to....so yes I do believe illegals should be deported again and again if need be.


But I do agree that the process of becoming a citizen needs to be looked at and maybe changed in some way so as to lessen the amounts of illegal immigrants but I do not believe in amnesty.


And Joe I never said I was anti-immigration....I'm anti ILLEGAL immigration

We get it Lyle. Fox newsflash: Gay mexicans are sneaking across the border and unplugging our brain dead ladies. In addition to this, they are setting up abortion clinics and taking gun rights away.

Gun Control doesn't work which can be statistically documented by the HUGE rise in crime after gun control laws were inacted in the UK and Australia.

Abortion.....as bad as it is has to be legal because if it's not it would still happen but it wouldn't be safe for the people having it done. I am not PRO abortion, I am just respectful of the woman's right to have a safe way to accomplish it.

I don't care about gay people they can do whatever they want to it doesn't bother me

And I for one think brain dead = dead dead