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Is Hatton better than Castillo was at Lightweight
Sorry for yet another threat on Hotton.
I just want to hear what is the general opinion on whether Hatton is better than prime Castillo. If he is, how much better is he?
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Re: Is Hatton better than Castillo was at Lightweight
In my opinion Castillo from 1999 to 2005 would have beat Hatton most likely by stopping him in the late rds,a prime Castillo "I think" was very underrated he was a great body puncher,also had a great left hook and would outwork you late in the fight. Castillo in his prime is better than Hatton in his.
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Re: Is Hatton better than Castillo was at Lightweight
there is no way in the world prime for prime castillo would outwork Hatton, catillo always came forward putting pressure, but i dont think there have been many fighters ever that could outwork ricky on his day (Kosta) effectiveness though is hard to call overall, I would say that Hatton just edges it, still think hes in for a rough night come december, but he will make it difficult for lil floyd one way or the other.
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I don't see a need to apologize with the big fight coming up there are bound to be a ton of hatton topics, most have been good so far..anyhow i hate the prime vs prime question, they fought we saw who won....even in his prime castillio could have got caught with that body shot and the outcome would have been the same....outside of something dramatic happening once a fighter gets in the ring throw the excuses out the door...
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Re: Is Hatton better than Castillo was at Lightweight
I think Hatton is a better fighter than Castillo at any time of their careers.
A lot of people are still underestimating Hatton, he beat Tszyu and yes i know he was past his best
but Tszyu aged 35 was still the best going around at the time. It was a big win for Hatton and
now he gets his chance at the man of the moment in PBF.
I would love to see Hatton V Cotto someday.
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Re: Is Hatton better than Castillo was at Lightweight
Castillo was better hands down, you can't compare the level of competition Castillo has faced to the 90 garbage Hatton has faced, sorry, Castillo has names like Corrales, Mayweather, Casamayor, Lazcano, and more on his record, all Hatton has is Tzyu and Castillo himself, sorry history wise and greatness wise i'd say Castillo is way ahead of Hatton
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Re: Is Hatton better than Castillo was at Lightweight
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Castillo was better hands down, you can't compare the level of competition Castillo has faced to the 90 garbage Hatton has faced, sorry, Castillo has names like Corrales, Mayweather, Casamayor, Lazcano, and more on his record, all Hatton has is Tzyu and Castillo himself, sorry history wise and greatness wise i'd say Castillo is way ahead of Hatton
No matter what is said, Hatton will have KO 4 on his record against Castillo forever.
He is 6 years younger than Castillo and his resume will match that of Castillo's by the time he retires.
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Re: Is Hatton better than Castillo was at Lightweight
yea he has a KO4 over a shot aged and worn Castillo, Mayweather will always have 2 UDS against a prime Castillo which at least one of was more impressive than Hattons victory
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Re: Is Hatton better than Castillo was at Lightweight
I have only seen 3 Haton fights, and many Castillo fights, going back over a dozen years. The Castillo that beat Stevie Johnston for the lightweight title was a Castillo past his best and that Castillo would have beaten the Hatton that I have seen.
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Re: Is Hatton better than Castillo was at Lightweight
Since this is comparing both fighters at their primes, Castillo was easily the better fighter. I think he was a very underrated fighter his whole career.
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Re: Is Hatton better than Castillo was at Lightweight
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
yea he has a KO4 over a shot aged and worn Castillo, Mayweather will always have 2 UDS against a prime Castillo which at least one of was more impressive than Hattons victory
So a prime Castillo would have shrugged off that body punch and the broken ribs would not have bothered him?
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Re: Is Hatton better than Castillo was at Lightweight
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Since this is comparing both fighters at their primes, Castillo was easily the better fighter. I think he was a very underrated fighter his whole career.
Your going on as if he was some 50 year old in a wheelchair?? WTF? Hatton is the bigger stronger guy and would of been to strong on the inside any day of the week, Castillo was good but he was a lightweight Hattons a bull like Light Welterweight who would just be to strong for any version of Castillo.
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Re: Is Hatton better than Castillo was at Lightweight
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Originally Posted by Kel
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yea he has a KO4 over a shot aged and worn Castillo, Mayweather will always have 2 UDS against a prime Castillo which at least one of was more impressive than Hattons victory
So a prime Castillo would have shrugged off that body punch and the broken ribs would not have bothered him?
Castillo ribs were never broken. It was just something made up by a Hatton groupie
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Kel
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yea he has a KO4 over a shot aged and worn Castillo, Mayweather will always have 2 UDS against a prime Castillo which at least one of was more impressive than Hattons victory
So a prime Castillo would have shrugged off that body punch and the broken ribs would not have bothered him?
Castillo ribs were never broken. It was just something made up by a Hatton groupie
I read that in a few articles after Ricky said it on TV might be false. Anyway here is a quote from Castillo himself about the body shot.
"He got me very good with that punch," said Castillo afterwards. "I have never been caught that way. It was the perfect shot. I couldn't breathe. I couldn't get up."
http://www.cnpprofessional.co.uk/blo...-blog-237.html
Thats one about the ribs
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Re: Is Hatton better than Castillo was at Lightweight
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Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
yea he has a KO4 over a shot aged and worn Castillo, Mayweather will always have 2 UDS against a prime Castillo which at least one of was more impressive than Hattons victory
So a prime Castillo would have shrugged off that body punch and the broken ribs would not have bothered him?
Castillo ribs were never broken. It was just something made up by a Hatton groupie
I read that in a few articles after Ricky said it on TV might be false. Anyway here is a quote from Castillo himself about the body shot.
"He got me very good with that punch," said Castillo afterwards. "I have never been caught that way. It was the perfect shot. I couldn't breathe. I couldn't get up."
http://www.cnpprofessional.co.uk/blo...-blog-237.html
Thats one about the ribs
Castillo gave a short interview on Telefutro (Spanish TV) a couple of weeks after the Hatton fight saying he was okay and was undecided about his future. He said he was sore but was other wise fine. If Castillo's ribs were really broken it would of been heard about every where
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Re: Is Hatton better than Castillo was at Lightweight
Hatton may not of broken his ribs but he certainly broke his heart. Castillo was always a little one dimensional and was ideal stylistically for Hatton to shine against. For my money Hatton beats any incarnation of Castillo and pound for pound he's the more rounded fighter with greater career achievements.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
yea he has a KO4 over a shot aged and worn Castillo, Mayweather will always have 2 UDS against a prime Castillo which at least one of was more impressive than Hattons victory
So a prime Castillo would have shrugged off that body punch and the broken ribs would not have bothered him?
Castillo ribs were never broken. It was just something made up by a Hatton groupie
I read that in a few articles after Ricky said it on TV might be false. Anyway here is a quote from Castillo himself about the body shot.
"He got me very good with that punch," said Castillo afterwards. "I have never been caught that way. It was the perfect shot. I couldn't breathe. I couldn't get up."
http://www.cnpprofessional.co.uk/blo...-blog-237.html
Thats one about the ribs
Castillo gave a short interview on Telefutro (Spanish TV) a couple of weeks after the Hatton fight saying he was okay and was undecided about his future. He said he was sore but was other wise fine. If Castillo's ribs were really broken it would of been heard about every where
Well if his ribs were broke he would be sore.......but fine otherwise ;D.
Who knows if they were broke? maybe your right we would know more about it if so.
You only have to look at the shot to figure out why he could not get to his feet. I reckon that body shot would have dropped a LOT of guys.
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Re: Is Hatton better than Castillo was at Lightweight
A prime Castillo could have taken that shot. He looked quite fleshy in the Hatton fight and he was moving up away from his best division. He had weight trouble in the last two Corrales fights and he wasn't himself in the fight before Hatton. If we had a prime v prime fight i think it would be a real brutal affair and i have to say it would be a coin toss as to whom would come out victorious. 100% it would go longer than 4 rounds tho.
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Re: Is Hatton better than Castillo was at Lightweight
certain body shots like the one hatton happened to land on castillo will take out most any fighter, doesn't matter if they're in their absolute prime or past their best.
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Re: Is Hatton better than Castillo was at Lightweight
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Originally Posted by ACEA
A prime Castillo could have taken that shot. He looked quite fleshy in the Hatton fight and he was moving up away from his best division. He had weight trouble in the last two Corrales fights and he wasn't himself in the fight before Hatton. If we had a prime v prime fight i think it would be a real brutal affair and i have to say it would be a coin toss as to whom would come out victorious. 100% it would go longer than 4 rounds tho.
Impossible to say mate. I can't recall a fight where he took a shot as good as that.
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A prime Castillo could have taken that shot. He looked quite fleshy in the Hatton fight and he was moving up away from his best division. He had weight trouble in the last two Corrales fights and he wasn't himself in the fight before Hatton. If we had a prime v prime fight i think it would be a real brutal affair and i have to say it would be a coin toss as to whom would come out victorious. 100% it would go longer than 4 rounds tho.
Impossible to say mate. I can't recall a fight where he took a shot as good as that.
You must of not seen Castillo-Corrales 1. He took some brutal shots. Including some to the body
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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A prime Castillo could have taken that shot. He looked quite fleshy in the Hatton fight and he was moving up away from his best division. He had weight trouble in the last two Corrales fights and he wasn't himself in the fight before Hatton. If we had a prime v prime fight i think it would be a real brutal affair and i have to say it would be a coin toss as to whom would come out victorious. 100% it would go longer than 4 rounds tho.
Impossible to say mate. I can't recall a fight where he took a shot as good as that.
You must of not seen Castillo-Corrales 1. He took some brutal shots. Including some to the body
Seen it lots of times and no BODY SHOTS he took compares.
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sorry i wasn't very clear, it was a good body shot but how of it was down to the conditioning of Castillo? If he would have been riped and in peak physical condition would he have gone down? Sure it would have hurt him but would it have KOed him?
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Originally Posted by ACEA
sorry i wasn't very clear, it was a good body shot but how of it was down to the conditioning of Castillo? If he would have been riped and in peak physical condition would he have gone down? Sure it would have hurt him but would it have KOed him?
You dont have any muscle covering the area he got hit in. Feel about 3 inches below your armpit.
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Originally Posted by ACEA
sorry i wasn't very clear, it was a good body shot but how of it was down to the conditioning of Castillo? If he would have been riped and in peak physical condition would he have gone down? Sure it would have hurt him but would it have KOed him?
You dont have any muscle covering the area he got hit in. Feel about 3 inches below your armpit.
Eric Esch does.....
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Re: Is Hatton better than Castillo was at Lightweight
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
yea he has a KO4 over a shot aged and worn Castillo, Mayweather will always have 2 UDS against a prime Castillo which at least one of was more impressive than Hattons victory
I'll give you that! No doubt Castillo was great against PBF in fight 1 and the Corrales fights were incredible. Just give the Fatboy some time and he will live up to expectations.
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Originally Posted by boozeboxer
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Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by ACEA
sorry i wasn't very clear, it was a good body shot but how of it was down to the conditioning of Castillo? If he would have been riped and in peak physical condition would he have gone down? Sure it would have hurt him but would it have KOed him?
You dont have any muscle covering the area he got hit in. Feel about 3 inches below your armpit.
Eric Esch does.....
:shakehead:
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Re: Is Hatton better than Castillo was at Lightweight
Does anyone yet see what I'm getting at with this thread.
Most believe that Hatton will go after Floyd in a very similar fashion to the way Castillo did in their first fight. Many have said in other threads that Floyd has learned from that fight and is a better fighter.
Here we are having a debate on whether or not Hatton is better than the lightweight version of Castillo and the debate is split down the middle.
So my question is obvious. How will Hatton beat Floyd?
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Re: Is Hatton better than Castillo was at Lightweight
He will do what he does best and what has got him this far. Theres no deceptive stratagem in this one and what you see is what you get. The only question that is yet unanswered pertains to the horsepower that Hatton has at his disposal. Guile and ring craft is not really his forte and he doesn't possess the ability to execute pressure whilst remaining elusive unlike Duran against DeJesus in their third encounter.
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Prime Castillo would destroy Hatton
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Does anyone yet see what I'm getting at with this thread.
Most believe that Hatton will go after Floyd in a very similar fashion to the way Castillo did in their first fight. Many have said in other threads that Floyd has learned from that fight and is a better fighter.
Here we are having a debate on whether or not Hatton is better than the lightweight version of Castillo and the debate is split down the middle.
So my question is obvious. How will Hatton beat Floyd?
He wont.
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Re: Is Hatton better than Castillo was at Lightweight
Could you post a link to the Hatton forum?
I would like to check it out.
Thanks.
