Racism ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

What drives people to be so damn Racial? I know we are not psycologist but what is your opinion about it?

IS the the fact to hate because of different culture, is justthe fact that people think so highly of themself that everyone else is crap?


I for onece think is the same feeling Very Rich people don't like to mix with poor people. White people hated black people because they where slaves and when that ends it turns out they where actually equal then black people hate white people because what happen 100's of years ago. blaming everything on 20th century white people. Using the stupidest word like NIigger and hating anyone who says it. ( Note I'm Puerto Rican)

Now is crazier because of Black Americans, White americans, LAtino Americans and Assians among others.


WTF is wrong :-X aside for the word racist there has to be a real reason that is actually not racism.

Reason I made this thread Is bacuse I just had situacion of racism

A brain.

I mean people say well what's wrong with saying ni***r or cra***r or bea**r I'm just expressing myself. I'm not killing anyone or harming anyone. I ain't breaking the laws.
Well not shit but you ever seen the movie pay it forward?
We all feed off, from eachother.
If I'm driving to work and you cut me off and I honk at you and you look out your window and scream something like 'Fucken Bea**r'
guess what I'm gonna get to work and be in a pissed off mood. If that person was caucaisan, african american, asian well I'm gonna let it out on the next muthafucker from that same race I see.

Life too short to pissed off all time, I never take anything too serious. I know when it's crunch time and when it's not. I know when to be offended and when not to. People try to come off like life is soo complex and filled with mystery and hard to fill everyday tasks.
I just don't see it that way.
I mean I sleep, work and eat. In between those 3 major things I have other activities some for me and entertainment others just a part of life. What the fwock is the big deal about living life and getting along?

I mean I love my life, I'm alive I have a couple of jobs, I got a roof over my head I have a bed I'm healthy I got my family.
I think something must snap in people heads and they say fuck this life and begin to explore and do shit they are not suppose to and that's when it all falls apart.

For some reason the movie 'Falling Down' came to mind, with Michael Douglas.

I think most people who are racist learned it from their parents or family or friends.

I also think racist and ignorance go hand and hand. So there must be a lot of ignorant parents out there teaching their kids bad things!

If anyone said anything racist to me I wouldnt care. It wouldnt even register as something about myself, it would just tell me something about the person who said it.

I'd figure they are a bit close-minded or someone taught them that that kind of "thinking" is right and they were ignorant enough to believe it.

Im white, and had some dude trying to call me a cracker once to piss me off and I just started laughing. "A cracker" lol. I was thinking keep trying man, theres lots you can say that might piss me off but a cracker aint one of them!


So people who say that kind of stuff or even worse THINK AND BELIEVE it are just close minded and ignorant and it's no reflection on who they say it to, only a reflection about themselves for just saying/thinking it.

History has told us that rascism, in one way or another, has brought more woes, bloodshed, and agonies than any "isms" in this world. Hitler's fascism started because of his hate for the Jews.

If there are people who can give testimony as to the suffering brought by rascism, I believe, we can accurately describe it.
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after a young lad died here steven lawrence although the police fuckedup the investigation mega

rasist language became illegal


anyway

Kids say wat they see,the words for it they learn
if a black kid fights a white kid he'll say something relvent to the child being white
and a white kid will do the same as a child i dont think u realsise the extent of what ur saying
itslike fighting a kid with glasses ad sayin 4eyes or a overweight kidand calling them fat


adults are just
ignorant

this is the best

''im not rasist i just dont like..........(insert chosen race) ::**

im not rasist my brothers best m8's girlfriends sisters husband is black''????? ::**

my kids are mixed race and get it all the time ur dad's a paki,(not he aint he's arabic)
your mum's a paki shagger etc.............
always paki this paki that
wouldnt be that bad if they got the race right the kids cud prob defend themselves then ::**
but they got to fight thier way out of it and it's not right


but it's the way it is at the moment

CC all around. This is a very interesting topic to discuss since people being racist it's kind of different in this times.

IT think that we as parents have to show are kids how it's suppose to be so when they meet someone racist specially their own race, show them that is very dam wrong and stupid.

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Originally Posted by Puya

CC all around. This is a very interesting topic to discuss since people being racist it's kind of different in this times.

IT think that we as parents have to show are kids how it's suppose to be so when they meet someone racist specially their own race, show them that is very dam wrong and stupid.

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cc back puya

I find Racism absolutlet repulsive. I would like to explore this subject from two angles which i personally can view this Topic.

1. Being from Ireland, I live in a country much smaller than the majority of writers on this forum. Now although this may mean that I don't get to engage in the Fantastic City Life of the Americas or indeed of Britain, I do avail of living in a close Knit community which in comparison to the rest of the world at large is pretty unblemished. However, in recent years as communities, races and religions have started to intermingle I have come to notice a disturbing undercurrent in my direct enviroment. This somewhat old-fashioned traditional community has become lodged somewhere in the 50's and are by and large intolerant of new races.
With the large influx of "Eastern Europeans," asian people and indeed Africans many Irish people are completly ignorant and intolerant of other races entering our country. No doubt these people fail to recall the large numbers of Irish people who left Ireland throughout history to take refuge in America, England and Austrailia. Yet they easily recall the racism against them in such countries.
A hatred for the British is commonplace in modern Ireland as is a distaste for Polish, Lithuanian and Polish nationals. Now i must stress that this vulgar use of stereotypes, single-mindedness and indeed racial slurs is a characteristic of much les than 50% of our country. It is unfortunate that this section seems to be the younger contingent of our nation. I myself have been fortunate to have been raised by parents with a respect and tolerance for all races, largely thanks to my dad who has traveled everywhere and got along well with everyone.
At this stage i would like to put myself in the clear by saying my idols are Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler and Ricky Hatton (English.) And i also play poker every week with three polish dudes and a russian altho that could be viewed as me robbing them blind ;D

On the flipside, i actually find plenty of stereotypes comin against me!!!!
Visited New York and Florida las year and all i got was "Oh jus don't start any fights." "Take it easy on the beer" "Do you want a drink." "What you dont Drink?!!!, But ur Irish!!!! :o ;D

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

I find Racism absolutlet repulsive. I would like to explore this subject from two angles which i personally can view this Topic.

1. Being from Ireland, I live in a country much smaller than the majority of writers on this forum. Now although this may mean that I don't get to engage in the Fantastic City Life of the Americas or indeed of Britain, I do avail of living in a close Knit community which in comparison to the rest of the world at large is pretty unblemished. However, in recent years as communities, races and religions have started to intermingle I have come to notice a disturbing undercurrent in my direct enviroment. This somewhat old-fashioned traditional community has become lodged somewhere in the 50's and are by and large intolerant of new races.
With the large influx of "Eastern Europeans," asian people and indeed Africans many Irish people are completly ignorant and intolerant of other races entering our country. No doubt these people fail to recall the large numbers of Irish people who left Ireland throughout history to take refuge in America, England and Austrailia. Yet they easily recall the racism against them in such countries.
A hatred for the British is commonplace in modern Ireland as is a distaste for Polish, Lithuanian and Polish nationals. Now i must stress that this vulgar use of stereotypes, single-mindedness and indeed racial slurs is a characteristic of much les than 50% of our country. It is unfortunate that this section seems to be the younger contingent of our nation. I myself have been fortunate to have been raised by parents with a respect and tolerance for all races, largely thanks to my dad who has traveled everywhere and got along well with everyone.
At this stage i would like to put myself in the clear by saying my idols are Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler and Ricky Hatton (English.) And i also play poker every week with three polish dudes and a russian altho that could be viewed as me robbing them blind ;D

On the flipside, i actually find plenty of stereotypes comin against me!!!!
Visited New York and Florida las year and all i got was "Oh jus don't start any fights." "Take it easy on the beer" "Do you want a drink." "What you dont Drink?!!!, But ur Irish!!!! :o ;D

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Very very well expressed donny, one of the brightest posts I've read here in quite a while. Being from a rural Welsh village, I have similar experiences to you, and have seen changes over the past 20 years. It used to be one strong community, but as time passes the Welsh community has diminished, and as houses come on the market local people can't afford them, so a lot of middle-class English people have moved in, and there is a split in the community. I think that racism stems from a perceived threat to a community, traced back to pre-civilisation when one tribe would be threatened when another tribe moved into their area, and it is a sort of a self defence mechanism.

I know what you mean about rivalry between the Welsh and the English (not British, I hope) which is expressed by parents and passed on to their children like that, especially through things like sport, and it is a form of racism, which is often reciprocated by English people themselves. We have a fairly large Polish community near where I live, which tends to work in the local slaughterhouse, and for the most part they have been welcomed, so i would still say it is a small minority that are racist.

CC Superheavy, thanks for the compliment.
And the CC should be doubled as i agree totaly with ur view on the cause or source of racism.

Many of us are prejudice while very few of us are racist. We all know the difference so I'm not going to elaborate on that point.

Also, I don't believe that things spoken in anger (slurs etc.) make that speaker a racist. In moments of frustration people say the most offensive remarks possible in order to hurt the others feelings and pride even though they may have friends of that race over for Sunday dinner.

A racist won't watch a show on the tele that might have the type of individual they hate in it or they refuse to get in the line of the checkout person who is of a race they disapprove of.

Assuming someone is a certain way because of their skin color is completely normal. We can't really help it at first. You have to take the time to figure the person out.

I've learned to take the insults as jokes, it doesn't bother me anymore. I have had outbursts but I am not racist. I agrre with most of what BoxingGorilla said.

Racism and bigotry are the results of having a lazy mind and not seeing people individually.

People like Farrakahn and Richard Girnt Butler really don't help these things by speaking with hatred about others all the time to their weak minded followers



Granted I don't seem like one to talk about these things but I try my best to not judge an entire group by the actions of one or a few. There are certain stereotypes that are easy to make and follow and their are certain people you think make their entire race or creed look bad but as I always say stupidity knows no bounds, political, geographical, religious, or otherwise.

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Many of us are prejudice while very few of us are racist. We all know the difference so I'm not going to elaborate on that point.

Also, I don't believe that things spoken in anger (slurs etc.) make that speaker a racist. In moments of frustration people say the most offensive remarks possible in order to hurt the others feelings and pride even though they may have friends of that race over for Sunday dinner.

A racist won't watch a show on the tele that might have the type of individual they hate in it or they refuse to get in the line of the checkout person who is of a race they disapprove of.

Assuming someone is a certain way because of their skin color is completely normal. We can't really help it at first. You have to take the time to figure the person out.

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this doesnt make it right though






and it's wierd too u'd be amazed at how many ppl ask if we have a sofa :-\ ??? ::**

yeah wtf

because my partner(hmmm yeah we slowly sorting it out) is arab ppl assume we sit on cushions on the floor

some assumtions are stupid

There was bit of racism in my school i used to go to it was disgusting i hate all racist people to me it doesn't matter what colour you are black white ect we are all equal we are all humans were all made of the same stuff i can't understand some people but there you go.

Reading this thread made me think about something I'm going to share with everyone. I don't know anyone personally who uses this forum, I only know their forum names and sometimes get an idea where they are from. That being said, I'm willing to bet we have all races, religions and many countries represented on this forum. We all have something in common, an interest in boxing which we discuss and sometimes argue about. If we all came face to face at some time do any of you think things would change? Just food for thought. For the record, racism is shallow minded ignorance.

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Originally Posted by Canvasback

Reading this thread made me think about something I'm going to share with everyone. I don't know anyone personally who uses this forum, I only know their forum names and sometimes get an idea where they are from. That being said, I'm willing to bet we have all races, religions and many countries represented on this forum. We all have something in common, an interest in boxing which we discuss and sometimes argue about. If we all came face to face at some time do any of you think things would change? Just food for thought. For the record, racism is shallow minded ignorance.

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I'd be sitting at the 8) table. That's all I know.

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Originally Posted by Canvasback

Reading this thread made me think about something I'm going to share with everyone. I don't know anyone personally who uses this forum, I only know their forum names and sometimes get an idea where they are from. That being said, I'm willing to bet we have all races, religions and many countries represented on this forum. We all have something in common, an interest in boxing which we discuss and sometimes argue about. If we all came face to face at some time do any of you think things would change? Just food for thought. For the record, racism is shallow minded ignorance.

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I'd be sitting at the 8) table. That's all I know.

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As long as everyone gets a round in and no-one is ducking spending a few quid on drinks (you know who you are....JT Rock and Boxing Gorrilla) then I'll be chatting with whoever else is there, no matter what race, nation or skin colour.

HahA CC BG, it is an intriguing thought ho, i only actually no 2 people on the forum to see, so its a real challenge trying to envision the person u are debating with :) The closeset i can imagine is thru the use of smileys and associating them with posters:
:dance: Thats u Boxing Gorilla :hippy: BruceLee
:mr-t: We got Violent Demise :jester: Funny Bilbo
:lhdevil: Trainer Monkey :pimp2: JimBoogie
:reporter: Daxx Kahn :sheep: Killersheep
:rocks: CutMeMick is Cool :toff: Scrap's a gent
:jesus: Saddo :badass: Chris N
Don't anybody take offence ha ha

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Originally Posted by Canvasback

Reading this thread made me think about something I'm going to share with everyone. I don't know anyone personally who uses this forum, I only know their forum names and sometimes get an idea where they are from. That being said, I'm willing to bet we have all races, religions and many countries represented on this forum. We all have something in common, an interest in boxing which we discuss and sometimes argue about. If we all came face to face at some time do any of you think things would change? Just food for thought. For the record, racism is shallow minded ignorance.

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i'd just love ya's all even more ;D

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HahA CC BG, it is an intriguing thought ho, i only actually no 2 people on the forum to see, so its a real challenge trying to envision the person u are debating with :) The closeset i can imagine is thru the use of smileys and associating them with posters:
:dance: Thats u Boxing Gorilla :hippy: BruceLee
:mr-t: We got Violent Demise :jester: Funny Bilbo
:lhdevil: Trainer Monkey :pimp2: JimBoogie
:reporter: Daxx Kahn :sheep: Killersheep
:rocks: CutMeMick is Cool :toff: Scrap's a gent
:jesus: Saddo :badass: Chris N
Don't anybody take offence ha ha

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Funny bro
Me personal,I couldnt care about race,Ive known all types of people,from just about every race imaginable,and all over the country
People are just people,no matter where you go,and what the color of their skin
So rack em up barkeep,and lets put em down

This is a subject I have been thing about quite a bit recently.
I'm a white guy, and many of my friends that I grew up with are in prison and members of so-called "white supremist" gangs. In the neighborhood I grew up in, when I was about 13, there was a huge shift in the ethnicity of the area. It went from being predominantly white- "white trash" is the vernacular I believe- to being predominantly black in very little time. I came to hate black people, not because they were black but because it was 5 black guys that would jump me and beat hell out of me every time I went to play basketball, buy a candy bar or ride my bike to the gym. We, in turn, ganged up and fought back and there are a lot of people doing life in California prisons over the stupidity that ensued. If there is "racism" there, then it was on both sides.
Now, keep in mind that all this time I am going to any and every boxing gym that I can find. I have worked out with, trained with, sparred with and taught many many boxers in several different states and the majority of them are Latino (Mexican, in the Southwest) or black. Never once have I failed to find myself respecting the hell out of these individuals, or considering them friends and comrades-in-arms. To this day I have a great deal of distrust towards certain people within certain ethnic groups that portray themselves in certain ways. I have no problem with individuals within any group once I get to know them.
So you tell me. Is that racism or a product of my life experience? I think the latter and will continue to think that until you can show me actual footage of lambs and lions hanging out.

Grey for a start i'm not really familiar with you or ur posts, but to post that, with that honesty has shown me exactly why posters like Chris n, who i hold in high regard, hold You in such high regard. That took courage, even on a forum.

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Grey for a start i'm not really familiar with you or ur posts, but to post that, with that honesty has shown me exactly why posters like Chris n, who i hold in high regard, hold You in such high regard. That took courage, even on a forum.

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Yup, what donny said, and just to add grey, there is absolutely nothing wrong with hating the guys who jumped you. It isn't racism, it's just hating bad people.

Grey, I was with right up until...

So you tell me. Is that racism or a product of my life experience? I think the latter and will continue to think that until you can show me actual footage of lambs and lions hanging out. Grey


You reduced you sense of awareness to that of a lamb? You're fleece is white as snow, correct? Or are you the lion?

I thought you werent allowed to talk about racist stuff here...this thread needs to be deleted!! Racism to me is just a lack of communication/information. People are afraid of the unknown usually.

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I thought you werent allowed to talk about racist stuff here...this thread needs to be deleted!! Racism to me is just a lack of communication/information. People are afraid of the unknown usually.

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Actually is a criticism of it. at the moment no one here are saying how racist they are.

I think it is a good thread and I have been reading and learning from all of you so thanks to all and a Round of
:coolclick: 's for all.


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Originally Posted by No Contest

I thought you werent allowed to talk about racist stuff here...this thread needs to be deleted!! Racism to me is just a lack of communication/information. People are afraid of the unknown usually.

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Actually is a criticism of it. at the moment no one here are saying how racist they are.

I think it is a good thread and I have been reading and learning from all of you so thanks to all and a Round of
:coolclick: 's for all.


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People are people bra
There are really good things all cultures bring to the table,theres bad stuff too
But at the end of it all,everyone loves their children,and a good meal ;D

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HahA CC BG, it is an intriguing thought ho, i only actually no 2 people on the forum to see, so its a real challenge trying to envision the person u are debating with :) The closeset i can imagine is thru the use of smileys and associating them with posters:
:dance: Thats u Boxing Gorilla :hippy: BruceLee
:mr-t: We got Violent Demise :jester: Funny Bilbo
:lhdevil: Trainer Monkey :pimp2: JimBoogie
:reporter: Daxx Kahn :sheep: Killersheep
:rocks: CutMeMick is Cool :toff: Scrap's a gent
:jesus: Saddo :badass: Chris N
Don't anybody take offence ha ha

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....forgetting anyone??? :fyou:

Ha Ha I'm sorry lyle...

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

HahA CC BG, it is an intriguing thought ho, i only actually no 2 people on the forum to see, so its a real challenge trying to envision the person u are debating with :) The closeset i can imagine is thru the use of smileys and associating them with posters:
:dance: Thats u Boxing Gorilla :hippy: BruceLee
:mr-t: We got Violent Demise :jester: Funny Bilbo
:lhdevil: Trainer Monkey :pimp2: JimBoogie
:reporter: Daxx Kahn :sheep: Killersheep
:rocks: CutMeMick is Cool :toff: Scrap's a gent
:jesus: Saddo :badass: Chris N
Don't anybody take offence ha ha

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Lyle: &Hitmandonny ha ha :argue:

Hatred of that nature is more prevalent in countries where they have to fight for food and other things in order to maintain a life. The human brain is a pattern seeking mechanism and if it wants to believe that this race or that religion is responsible for their hardtimes, they'll "find" evidence to back it up.

I was being sarcastic...I forgot you gotta point that out around here ;) :Sarcasm:

OMG let's all just hug and sing(I'll start it off) Kumbaya my lord, Kumbaya.......

"Can't we all just get along?"


















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