Pitbulls are better off fighting each other than......................

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/...g.mauling.king


This happened today.

My question is this..................



What if there was a 6 month old baby crawling around on the floor when these dogs came in. As revolting (and sad) as the thought is, that scenario has happened MANY times. These aren't golden retrievers, they're pitbulls. It's in their nature to kill, and even the most docile pit, or the most pampered pit can (and has way more times than any other species) turn on it's owner (including their children) and attack.


(Don't answer if you don't have kids)
Would you ever leave your baby in the room alone with a golden retriever? Probably




A pit? Didn't think so.


I'm not saying they're all bad (I've encountered a couple cool ones).............. I'm saying that as a whole, they are far more aggressive (and dangerous) than any other species of dog.

























Free Michael Vick!

Vick better have some vaseline. :bananasex:











































The jury has been chosen. ;D

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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/...g.mauling.king


This happened today.

My question is this..................



What if there was a 6 month old baby crawling around on the floor when these dogs came in. As revolting (and sad) as the thought is, that scenario has happened MANY times. These aren't golden retrievers, they're pitbulls. It's in their nature to kill, and even the most docile pit, or the most pampered pit can (and has way more times than any other species) turn on it's owner (including their children) and attack.


(Don't answer if you don't have kids)
Would you ever leave your baby in the room alone with a golden retriever? Probably




A pit? Didn't think so.


I'm not saying they're all bad (I've encountered a couple cool ones).............. I'm saying that as a whole, they are far more aggressive (and dangerous) than any other species of dog.



Free Michael Vick!

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Sigh


Frozen I like to like your post, but this is too lame.


For the record if a pitbull is raised in a good environment ( ie not beaten, starved, hit, forced to fight, etc.) then it will likely turn out to be a great, secure, obediant family dog.

These dogs arent born monsters. It is monsters that turn them into monsters and breed them to give them a life or horror, pain and death for the owners entertainment.

I don't have dogs. Am afraid I can't control them. In any situation, whether the dog is tamed or not, I will not leave my baby alone with a dog.

right frozen soi get it a dog attacked awoman



wtf does that hae to do with vick being freed?

I had dogs all my life including now married with children( not the show ;D). PEts specially dogs you have to spent time to time around them play with them and also letting them know when they are doing something wrong with abbuse. That way the will respect you and love you( try o push me or something in front of my dog) I mean the trick is spending time with them.

Pitbulls are a very dangerous animals because of their nasal situation. Dogs don't recognize you by seeing you, they recognize you by smelling you and at times by our voice. Like I said before Pitbulls are very aggresive animals when they don't know who you are at least most of them not all. so if their sense of smell is locked (very natural on pitbulls) they will attack you.

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I had dogs all my life including now married with children( not the show ;D). PEts specially dogs you have to spent time to time around them play with them and also letting them know when they are doing something wrong with abbuse. That way the will respect you and love you( try o push me or something in front of my dog) I mean the trick is spending time with them.

Pitbulls are a very dangerous animals because of their nasal situation. Dogs don't recognize you by seeing you, they recognize you by smelling you and at times by our voice. Like I said before Pitbulls are very aggresive animals when they don't know who you are at least most of them not all. so if their sense of smell is locked (very natural on pitbulls) they will attack you.

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just wanted to say its not that they are aggresive they are just very protective and loyal to there owner

Ive got a big Staff 22" at the shoulder 5st hes a big lad. Hes as daft as a brush, with kids hes fantastic plays but when hes had enougth he just goes upstairs to bed. now I look at him and think your granddad was all Irish fighting champion and his grandson is a Wally never had a fight, wouldnt change him thougth hes lovely

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http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/...g.mauling.king


This happened today.

My question is this..................



What if there was a 6 month old baby crawling around on the floor when these dogs came in. As revolting (and sad) as the thought is, that scenario has happened MANY times. These aren't golden retrievers, they're pitbulls. It's in their nature to kill, and even the most docile pit, or the most pampered pit can (and has way more times than any other species) turn on it's owner (including their children) and attack.


(Don't answer if you don't have kids)
Would you ever leave your baby in the room alone with a golden retriever? Probably




A pit? Didn't think so.


I'm not saying they're all bad (I've encountered a couple cool ones).............. I'm saying that as a whole, they are far more aggressive (and dangerous) than any other species of dog.

























Free Michael Vick!

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Its nurture not nature
In 1979 the leading breed in dog attack deaths was Great Danes
The leading breed in dog attacks was actually Black Labs
1998 the leading breed in dog attack deaths was Rottweillers
In 1979 there were no Rottweiller related deaths

Pit bulls have been bred to be aggressive. I know a guy who was riding in another friends car one time and a pit bull practically ripped his face off. Unprovoked and this guy had grown up with the dog. These are dangerous dogs, I don't think there is any questioning that. Some of them are nice. I like pit bulls but I think questioning there aggressive or protective genes is like denying global warming at this point.
Also pit bulls might not have the number one dog attacks per breed in a year, but I would wager they are the top breed % wise because of thier numbers. Practically 5% of black labs could be mean and there would still be more lab attacks than if half of the pit bulls in th country attacked someone.

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Pit bulls have been bred to be aggressive. I know a guy who was riding in another friends car one time and a pit bull practically ripped his face off. Unprovoked and this guy had grown up with the dog. These are dangerous dogs, I don't think there is any questioning that. Some of them are nice. I like pit bulls but I think questioning there aggressive or protective genes is like denying global warming at this point.
Also pit bulls might not have the number one dog attacks per breed in a year, but I would wager they are the top breed % wise because of thier numbers. Practically 5% of black labs could be mean and there would still be more lab attacks than if half of the pit bulls in th country attacked someone.

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Why have Pit related deaths dropped,year by year
Why have Rottweiller related death risen year by year
Its who owns them,and how their raised
Go back and look at the breeds history,when they came to the states around the turn of the century they were considered the ultimate family dog
Petey from the Little Rascals=PitBull
The Buster Brown Dog=PitBull
The Original Nipper from the RCA logo=PitBull
The only dog to ever be awarded the rank of Sargent in the US military,Stubby who was credited with saving many members of the 102 Infranty in WW1=PitBull

So are you telling me that I could fight golden retrievers if I trained them?

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So are you telling me that I could fight golden retrievers if I trained them?

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You could fight Chihuaha's if you wanted to,they wouldnt do very well but you could
The next big popular dog for fighting is allready becoming Chows
After that it'll probably be Bull Mastiffs,or that weird hybrid breed that was involved in that fatal attack in SF a few years back

My 1,000 post on saddo's is coming on a dog fighting post. I came here as an uninformed lad about boxing and still am here talking about unrelated things. Life is odd. Anyway thanks saddo for not banning me.....yet.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...evness/ww1.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...ess/Stubby.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...s/postcard.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...vness/post.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...ss/PitBull.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...ss/firedog.jpg

Nice pics trainer monkey. It really puts a humanistic aspect into these dogs


I think it says a lot about a person in how they treat a domesticated animal that is totally dependent on humans for their lives.

A dog will treat even the most worthless owner with loyalty. Even if that owner abuses it and treats it's life with disregard. When pitbulls or dogs in general have social issues or are too aggressive it says a lot about their owners.

Some dogs are born with more aggressive/protective traits than others, but if socialized, trained, and given the proper environment these traits will only come out in a SERIOUS time where that dog may end up saving their owner's life.

I think it's funny how someone will hear of or witness one bad experience about one particular dog and generalize it to the whole breed or all dogs in general. There are more "bad" people out there than "bad" animals.

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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/...g.mauling.king


This happened today.

My question is this..................



What if there was a 6 month old baby crawling around on the floor when these dogs came in. As revolting (and sad) as the thought is, that scenario has happened MANY times. These aren't golden retrievers, they're pitbulls. It's in their nature to kill, and even the most docile pit, or the most pampered pit can (and has way more times than any other species) turn on it's owner (including their children) and attack.


(Don't answer if you don't have kids)
Would you ever leave your baby in the room alone with a golden retriever? Probably

A pit? Didn't think so.

I'm not saying they're all bad (I've encountered a couple cool ones).............. I'm saying that as a whole, they are far more aggressive (and dangerous) than any other species of dog.

Free Michael Vick!

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You're a fucking idiot.

My parents bred bull terriers and not one of them EVER bit anyone cos they were well trained.

It's like kids. You bring them up well and teach them the right way.

Something your parents didn't do.

Twat! Fuck off into a pit with some dogs yourself, you cunt!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergeant_Stubby

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Nice pics trainer monkey. It really puts a humanistic aspect into these dogs


I think it says a lot about a person in how they treat a domesticated animal that is totally dependent on humans for their lives.

A dog will treat even the most worthless owner with loyalty. Even if that owner abuses it and treats it's life with disregard. When pitbulls or dogs in general have social issues or are too aggressive it says a lot about their owners.

Some dogs are born with more aggressive/protective traits than others, but if socialized, trained, and given the proper environment these traits will only come out in a SERIOUS time where that dog may end up saving their owner's life.

I think it's funny how someone will hear of or witness one bad experience about one particular dog and generalize it to the whole breed or all dogs in general. There are more "bad" people out there than "bad" animals.

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No to mention
Whats the first thing we were all told as kids about meeting a new dog?
"Dont be afraid,dogs can sense fear"
Doesnt help that so many jaggoffs get the dogs to make up for their inferior packages

http://www.atts.org/stats1.html

Gary Watkins, eleven years old, was absorbed in chasing lizards when Weela, the family Pit Bull, plowed into him with a body slam that sent him sprawling. Gary's mother, Lori, saw the whole incident and remembers being surprised at first, because Weela always played kindly with children. But her surprise quickly turned to horror when she saw a rattlesnake sink its fangs into Weela's face. Somehow Weela had sensed the snake's presence from across the yard and rushed to push Gary out of strinking range.

Luckily for thirty people, twenty-nine dogs, thirteen horses and a cat, Weela recovered from the snake's venom.
Luckily, because that's how many lives she saved a few years later. For her heroism, Weela was named Ken-L Ration's
Dog Hero of the Year in 1993. The press release read in part:

In January 1993, heavy rains caused a dam to break miles upstream on the Tijuana River, normally a narrow,
three-foot wide river. Weela's rescue efforts began at a ranch that belonged to a friend of her owners, Lori and Daniel
Watkins. Weela and the Watkinses worked for six hours battling heavy rains, strong currents and floating debris to
reach the ranch and rescue their friend's twelve dogs.

From that experience, the Watkinses recognized Weela's extraordinary ability to sense quicksand, dangerous drop-offs
and mud bogs. "She was constantly willing to put herself in dangerous situations," says Lori Watkins. "She alsays took
the lead except to circle back if someone needed help."

Periodically, over a month's time, sixty-five pound Weela crossed the flooded river to bring food to seventeen dogs and
puppies and one cat, all stranded on an island. Each trip she pulled thirty to fifty pounds of dog food that had been
loaded into a harnessed backpack. The animals were finally evacuated on Valentine's Day.

On another occasion, Weela led a rescue team to thirteen horses stranded on a large manure pile completely
surrounded by floodwaters. The rescue team successfully brought the horses to safe ground.

Finally, during one of Weela's trips back from delivering food to stranded animals, she came upon a group of thirty
people who were attempting to cross the floodwaters. Weela, by barking and running back and forth, refused to allow
them to cross at that point where the waters ran deep and fast. She then led the group to a shallower crossing
upstream, where they safely crossed to the other side.

Stong, gentle intelligent and brave, Weela,CGC,TT, is the ultimate American Pit Bull terrier, epitomizing the best that
the breed has to offer. But her story also highlights an important yet often misunderstood fact about the breed. The Pit
Bull is a dog that loves to please its owner and tries to become whatever kind of dog its owner desires. Weela has had
two owners.

The first owner dumped her in an alley to die when she was less than four weeks old. Her present owner, Lori Watkins,
found five starving Pit Bull puppies whimpering in an alley, took them home and raised them. later, the Watkins family
placed four of the puppies in loving homes and kept the little female they named Weela. They believed Weela was
special, and she proved them right. Most Pit Bull puppies grow up to become a reflection of both their owners'
personality and the care and training they receive. One can only imagine what a different dog Weela would have
become if her original owner had raised her, and she had done her best to please him.
source: http://www.lucydog.com/weela.html

I really don't think your logic makes sense if you are criticizing my own. First you say that isolated incidents of put bull attacks aren't a valid indicator of thier true nature, then you go on to post very isolated incidents of pit bulls saving band camps, etc. You can't have it both ways.

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I really don't think your logic makes sense if you are criticizing my own. First you say that isolated incidents of put bull attacks aren't a valid indicator of thier true nature, then you go on to post very isolated incidents of pit bulls saving band camps, etc. You can't have it both ways.

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Lets try this out for size,and see if you get it
Pits rate higher then most common breads for temperment
They were they most popular breed the the country up until after WW2,but somehow developed a reputation so revered they were used routinely in Hollywood,and as the symbol of America
There are more tales of heroism from Pits,then about any breed youd care to name
And every year as the popularity of Rottweillers among drug dealers has gone up,the number of PitBull related fatalities has fallen,and Rottweillers has gone up,the last year of available data has Rotties leading,even though there was 0 Rottweiller related fatalities the first year of available data in 1978/79,and that year Great Danes actually led the catagory

Or to put it another way
What does the most highly decorated Dog in American Military History
Alaskas very first certified hearing dog(a dog ceritfied to help the hearing impaired)
And the record holder for obedience rankings from the National Association Of Protection Dogs all have in common
Damn,I got to get me one of them,they sound like good dogs
Oh wait ;D

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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/...g.mauling.king


This happened today.

My question is this..................



What if there was a 6 month old baby crawling around on the floor when these dogs came in. As revolting (and sad) as the thought is, that scenario has happened MANY times. These aren't golden retrievers, they're pitbulls. It's in their nature to kill, and even the most docile pit, or the most pampered pit can (and has way more times than any other species) turn on it's owner (including their children) and attack.


(Don't answer if you don't have kids)
Would you ever leave your baby in the room alone with a golden retriever? Probably

A pit? Didn't think so.

I'm not saying they're all bad (I've encountered a couple cool ones).............. I'm saying that as a whole, they are far more aggressive (and dangerous) than any other species of dog.

Free Michael Vick!

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You're a F****** idiot.

My parents bred bull terriers and not one of them EVER bit anyone cos they were well trained.

It's like kids. You bring them up well and teach them the right way.

Something your parents didn't do.

Twat! F*** off into a pit with some dogs yourself, you c***!

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Sorry if I rubbed your pussy the wrong way.............


Pits were originally bred for FIGHTING! Lots of pits that are raised properly turn and attack their owners. This is a fact. It's in their nature, so stop crying. How often do you see on the news that other species (rotts are bad, too. but thats half pit and half doberman) killed some baby? Does that mean that their owners were beating them? NOPE


Another thing, dipshit..............


Pits are like kids??

are you fucking kidding me? They are animals, not people.



See I can talk shit and call names just like you.

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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/...g.mauling.king


This happened today.

My question is this..................



What if there was a 6 month old baby crawling around on the floor when these dogs came in. As revolting (and sad) as the thought is, that scenario has happened MANY times. These aren't golden retrievers, they're pitbulls. It's in their nature to kill, and even the most docile pit, or the most pampered pit can (and has way more times than any other species) turn on it's owner (including their children) and attack.


(Don't answer if you don't have kids)
Would you ever leave your baby in the room alone with a golden retriever? Probably

A pit? Didn't think so.

I'm not saying they're all bad (I've encountered a couple cool ones).............. I'm saying that as a whole, they are far more aggressive (and dangerous) than any other species of dog.

Free Michael Vick!

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You're a F****** idiot.

My parents bred bull terriers and not one of them EVER bit anyone cos they were well trained.

It's like kids. You bring them up well and teach them the right way.

Something your parents didn't do.

Twat! F*** off into a pit with some dogs yourself, you c***!

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Sorry if I rubbed your pussy the wrong way.............


Pits were originally bred for FIGHTING! Lots of pits that are raised properly turn and attack their owners. This is a fact. It's in their nature, so stop crying. How often do you see on the news that other species (rotts are bad, too. but thats half pit and half doberman) killed some baby? Does that mean that their owners were beating them? NOPE


Another thing, dipshit..............


Pits are like kids??

are you F****** kidding me? They are animals, not people.



See I can talk S*** and call names just like you.

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Not in America
They were used as frontier dogs
The British Pit Bull Terrier,and the American are different breeds entirely

I was i Laffiette one year staying with a lunatic Boxer with 2 of my fighters.He had a 6 year old pied pit bull bitch it was chained to a tree going crazy no drink no food my first thought was crazy dog. The fighter had to go somewhere the weekend and left us in charge of his set up. Liking dogs I got it some food then got the distance how far it could go on the chain fed and watered it I noticed its tail wagging and felt better this went on for 2 days on the 3rd I let it of the chain took it for a walk. We use to go everywhere after that for 2 months It use to sleep in the room with me was obedient she was a beutifull dog . I would have brought her back to England if not for her age and quarantine rules she was a dream I often think what became of her sad

And if it sounds like Im smarter then the average monkey on this topic(pun intended)
If your going to own one,you better know your s*** just to deal with all the ignorant crap that gets said about them.If I told you,this most decorated dog in American Military history,a dog who save untold lives during a flood,the first certified hearing dog in Alaska,and the dog who scored the highest raiting ever for obedience from the National Association Of Protection Dogs,who had been the personal dog owned by Mark Twain Thomas Edison,Hellen Keller,Fred Astaire,and Teddy Roosevelt were all the same breed of dog
Most people would be falling over themselves to get one
Perception vs reality

I've been chasen by a Pitbull and bit. They need to be banned.

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I've been chasen by a Pitbull and bit. They need to be banned.

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Ive been chased by a black lab,and mauled
Shoot them all ;D

True story
Valentines Day,I was 7 years old,the neighborhood black lab,King,slipped his leash
I was wearing a brand new winter jacket,and had some cookies tucked inside that Id gotten as a treat from school
The dog shredded me up as I was coming back from the bus stop that day
You hear me asking for all black lab's to be shot in the face
Grow the F up

Your Balls Are Showing

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Your Balls Are Showing

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Well I am wearing shorts ;D ;D

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Your Balls Are Showing

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Well I am wearing shorts ;D ;D

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I dont know were the random thought came to type that, but it looked like a proper time to insert the off the wall phrase ;D

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I've been chasen by a Pitbull and bit. They need to be banned.

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Ive been chased by a black lab,and mauled
Shoot them all ;D

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Been in a fight and got a black eye from a person before. Honest to god they need to stop breeding people, horrible fuckin creatures.

Heard they murder, rape, steal, destroy the environment, and don't treat other living creatures with any respect because they are so greedy and self-centered. We should execute every last one of them.



Wait a minute... ???

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I've been chasen by a Pitbull and bit. They need to be banned.

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Ive been chased by a black lab,and mauled
Shoot them all ;D

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Been in a fight and got a black eye from a person before. Honest to god they need to stop breeding people, horrible F****** creatures.

Heard they murder, rape, steal, destroy the environment, and don't treat other living creatures with any respect because they are so greedy and self-centered. We should execute every last one of them.



Wait a minute... ???

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http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/...g.mauling.king
I'm not saying they're all bad (I've encountered a couple cool ones).............. I'm saying that as a whole, they are far more aggressive (and dangerous) than any other species of dog.

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I agree. Still, it's all about how you bring one up. If you encourage chewing on the hands and wrestling as a puppy it will get worse as they grow. If you treat the puppy gently and correct every time it gets rough, it will behave properly as an adult.

I let my dog, Mister, get away with things because he is but an English Cocker. He can be a little asshole when it comes to food dropped on the floor and bed space. When my girlfriend gets out of bed he will come in the bedroom and lay tight up against me. If I try to push him away or off the bed he will growl and snap. Eventually he will root me tight up against the wall. It is ridiculous, but at the same time hilarious. If I wanted to I could pick him up by his stubby tail and toss him aginst the wall, but if he were a pitt I would be his prisoner.

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In any situation, whether the dog is tamed or not, I will not leave my baby alone with a dog.

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LOL Right. I wouldn't leave a baby alone with a TV guide. ;D

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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/...g.mauling.king
I'm not saying they're all bad (I've encountered a couple cool ones).............. I'm saying that as a whole, they are far more aggressive (and dangerous) than any other species of dog.

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I agree. Still, it's all about how you bring one up. If you encourage chewing on the hands and wrestling as a puppy it will get worse as they grow. If you treat the puppy gently and correct every time it gets rough, it will behave properly as an adult.

I let my dog, Mister, get away with things because he is but an English Cocker. He can be a little asshole when it comes to food dropped on the floor and bed space. When my girlfriend gets out of bed he will come in the bedroom and lay tight up against me. If I try to push him away or off the bed he will growl and snap. Eventually he will root me tight up against the wall. It is ridiculous, but at the same time hilarious. If I wanted to I could pick him up by his stubby tail and toss him aginst the wall, but if he were a pitt I would be his prisoner.

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Funny,my Pit sleeps in a nest we made for him at the foot of my bed,and stays there
Allways
He knows he's not allowed in the bed,so he stays out of the bed

I've posted this pic before, but I want to post it again and so I will. This is me, my friend Dave, and his Pitt, Ella. Ella is one of the most gentle and loving dogs I have ever known