All the attributes to make a chmpion...except for chin.
Saturday 25th August, we saw Bernard Dunne, a highly accomplished amateur and hot commodity in the pro ranks at 24-0 before the fight, being felled by spanish slugger Kiko Martinez. Although nobody can question the exceptional power utilised by Martinez, the result (a TKO in the first,) has almost cemented the hypothesis that Dunne has a glass jaw.
This got me to thinking, what other Classy or Talented contenders had their potential negated by a limited tolerance for punishment and give me the fights where they were exposed along with ur brief analysis.
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just recently rey boomboom bautista against ponce de leon.
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...chose to slug it out with a slugger and paid dearly for it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMFcnqHLdIo
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Put a granit chin on Hearns and he would've been unbeatable.
He still made it big though.
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....Earnie Shavers all-time
Recently Allan Green, Jaidon Codrington
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CC's all round, that was a particularily good one by Kkisser! That had slipped my mind totaly!
Frank Bruno had a glass jaw too...
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....to a certain extent Andrew Golota fits in rather nicely here...vs Tyson, Lewis, Brewster....he got destroyed in each and every one of those fights
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You know...I was kinda hyped on Dunne. Everyone has a bad night though...doubtful that he'll recover from that hyding though.
Sturm did...come to think of it many others did also...Wlad Klitschko...but you know that it's always in the back o' their noggins.
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I don't think it was a bad night i think he was shocked by how quickly martinez opened. Martinez was extremely quick, not only with his hands but also with his feet, thats why he pinned bernard so easily.
For dunne id say he not onl;y has to rethink his approach to boxing, but also his entire boxing regimen. He looked far too small and slim for martinez.
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
CC's all round, that was a particularily good one by Kkisser! That had slipped my mind totaly!
Frank Bruno had a glass jaw too...
Actually he didn't he just didn't know what to do when he was hurt he took monster shots off Lewis and still stayed on his feet.
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I'd tend to disagree there. Every boxer is told at one stage or another what to do when they are hurt whether it be run, grab and hold or even take a knee. It is my opinion that fighters that get tagged often become two disorientated to apply these techniques and attempt to fight back (as dunne did,) however with franks power this made him quite dangerous and he had power enough to KO the opponent or buy himself time. Thats my analysis anyway.
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
I'd tend to disagree there. Every boxer is told at one stage or another what to do when they are hurt whether it be run, grab and hold or even take a knee. It is my opinion that fighters that get tagged often become two disorientated to apply these techniques and attempt to fight back (as dunne did,) however with franks power this made him quite dangerous and he had power enough to KO the opponent or buy himself time. Thats my analysis anyway.
Yes every boxer is told but its an instinct like for survival and Frank never did quite know what to do but he didn't have bad chin more like bad survival skills.
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David Reid, great boxer, but was thrown in with Tito to early and his heart and chin was exposed.
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Roger Mayweather would have been one hell of a tough guy to beat if he had a chin..
Herbie Hide, Earnie Shavers, Ken Norton maybe, though it's harder to call out HW's for having poor chins when you consider how hard they are often being hit.. Perhaps it had just as much to do with their defensive styles/instincts.. Wlad Klitschko I think it's safe to say definetly does have a poor chin though.
Hearns is pretty much the obvious pick.. but of course he is an ATG champion anyways.
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Originally Posted by p4pking
Roger Mayweather would have been one hell of a tough guy to beat if he had a chin..
Herbie Hide, Earnie Shavers, Ken Norton maybe, though it's harder to call out HW's for having poor chins when you consider how hard they are often being hit.. Perhaps it had just as much to do with their defensive styles/instincts.. Wlad Klitschko I think it's safe to say definetly does have a poor chin though.
Hearns is pretty much the obvious pick.. but of course he is an ATG champion anyways.
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Originally Posted by p4pking
Roger Mayweather would have been one hell of a tough guy to beat if he had a chin..
Herbie Hide, Earnie Shavers, Ken Norton maybe, though it's harder to call out HW's for having poor chins when you consider how hard they are often being hit.. Perhaps it had just as much to do with their defensive styles/instincts.. Wlad Klitschko I think it's safe to say definetly does have a poor chin though.
Hearns is pretty much the obvious pick.. but of course he is an ATG champion anyways.
....he did get up everytime he has been down...he might not take the punch well but he hasn't been STARCHED like some of those guys
Meldrick Taylor fell just short of being a champion because of his chin...tough break really
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How do you strengthen a chin. If you are born with a weak chin, will it be better not to join pro boxing?
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David Reid, great boxer, but was thrown in with Tito to early and his heart and chin was exposed.
Did you watch any of David after that fight, it was sad, he had absolutely no confidence left. The KO along with eye trouble ended his career. What a shame.
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Originally Posted by p4pking
Roger Mayweather would have been one hell of a tough guy to beat if he had a chin..
Herbie Hide, Earnie Shavers, Ken Norton maybe, though it's harder to call out HW's for having poor chins when you consider how hard they are often being hit.. Perhaps it had just as much to do with their defensive styles/instincts.. Wlad Klitschko I think it's safe to say definetly does have a poor chin though.
Hearns is pretty much the obvious pick.. but of course he is an ATG champion anyways.
I don't think it's so much Wlad's chin as his stamina. Once he gets knocked down the first time, it seems his stamina gets totally zapped. He did manage to get up and go on to beat the guy who is considered to be the hardest puncher in boxing so his chin can't be all glass.
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Guys with good chin are the guys that look after it well. Hagler was reputed to have the best chin in boxing, but that was largely due to the fact he kept it tucked and his squat style made him impossible to knock. another 20% would be down to conditioning, but i dunno what the other mystery ingredient is...
