Dog Fighting vs. Hunting Animals
As many people that are out there crying about some baby eating pitbulls, those same people should be crying about hunting animals. But they're not ;)
The reason is simple.................. The people that are all of a sudden "animal rights activists," didn't give a S*** about dog fighting until the media told them to.
These people are sheep.
Do you shed tears anytime some chicken is killed??
The ignorant answer is "No, chickens aren't smart like dogs."
WTF ever ::**
I happen to know for a fact that there is a chicken at the "Tropicana," hotel and casino in Las Vegas that plays tic tac toe, and if you can beat it (no human ever has ;)) you win like $100,000.00 or some shyt.
How many pitbulls can beat humans at tic tac toe??
ZERO................ Never has it happened, never will it happen. That's because pits aren't as smart as the chickens that are slaughtered by the tens of thousands everyday.
Nobody says anything about this, because the media hasn't told them to yet ;)
So what's more fair........... dog fighting, or other animals that are hunted for sport??
Dogs get to live unless they lose so bad that they can't function anymore. Deer, Foxes, and other "game," animals are out in the wild being stalked by humans..... eating in a pasture...... mating....... doing whatever, then "BOOM," they're shot and killed so they can end up as someones coat, or their heads decorate somebody's wall.
Why is this??
Because the media has yet to herd the sheep in the direction where they tell the sheep that "This is wrong.";)
The sheep can sad click me all they want, but I challenge somebody to bring a strong arguement against what I have just posted.
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Man,you have abolutely 0 idea bout what your mouthing off about
I mean 0
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
Man,you have abolutely 0 idea bout what your mouthing off about
I mean 0
Here's the first response................
Sure enough, it does nothing to address the valid points I made in my post.
NEXT!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
Man,you have abolutely 0 idea bout what your mouthing off about
I mean 0
Here's the first response................
Sure enough, it does nothing to address the valid points I made in my post.
NEXT!!!!!!!!!
There werent any
I grew up on farms,and own a pit
A female cow is relatively docile and you can have a friendly relatsionship,all males even the steers are knuckleheads
Horses exist so little girls can have their pictures taken on them
Pigs are very smart,and also very aggressive
Chickens are psychopaths
Ducks are very, nice animals,I cant even fathom eating duck
Deer,while I like them,overpopulate,and some need to be taken down,for their own sake
Same with Racoons,I had to arrow two of them this year,I didnt want too,but they were getting dangerous
And any dog,in the right household will revert to its pack mentality and view itself as a valued household member
I wasnt kidding sonny,you realy didnt know what you were talking about
Now if youd like to dig yourself deeper,its all on you......................
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Being good at tic tac toe does not make you intelligent......never have I heard of this being a sole indicator of intelligence.
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
Man,you have abolutely 0 idea bout what your mouthing off about
I mean 0
Here's the first response................
Sure enough, it does nothing to address the valid points I made in my post.
NEXT!!!!!!!!!
There werent any
I grew up on farms,and own a pit
A female cow is relatively docile and you can have a friendly relatsionship,all males even the steers are knuckleheads
Horses exist so little girls can have their pictures taken on them
Pigs are very smart,and also very aggressive
Chickens are psychopaths
Ducks are very, nice animals,I cant even fathom eating duck
Deer,while I like them,overpopulate,and some need to be taken down,for their own sake
Same with Racoons,I had to arrow two of them this year,I didnt want too,but they were getting dangerous
And any dog,in the right household will revert to its pack mentality and view itself as a valued household member
I wasnt kidding sonny,you realy didnt know what you were talking about
Now if youd like to dig yourself deeper,its all on you......................
I actually disagree with cattle part of your observation. As a bunch, I would munch rather mess around with steers than hiefers..they can be some real bitches. The tamest animal I ever knew of was a 1,500 plus pound angus bull.......so I don't know. I think all breeds and systems are different though, but I have handled alot of cattle.
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You do have a point 702. I mean pigs are quite intelligent as animals go, but I don't think I would draw too much flak if I opened a restaurant and sold pork chops. Dog steaks however would get me strung up I'm sure, no matter how good they tasted. However, dog fights are a bit of a different story. If Vick fought pigs, I'm pretty sure he'd still be in trouble.
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Was the rooster trained to play tic-tac-toe or did he just strut up to the roulette table one day and start bragging about his skills? You could teach a dog to play tic-tac-toe but he'd drool all over the board. Besides, a large part of the reason a human has never beat the rooster is because it's hard to concentrate when you are watching a cock hold a pencil.
I've seen dogs charge couragesly into burning buildings and carry out babies. Can a rooster do that? Huh, can it?
:rolleyes3:
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No disrespect mate but we eat chickens, we don't eat dogs. Thats why the fruckers are slaughtered everyday.They are damn tasty too in a bap with some mayo. I take it you are vegetarian? I'd hate to think you were being a hypocrite.
Also, the whole animal rights thing in regard to foxes, deers etc has been about long before the dog fighting scene. Its always been about, it has just as many supporters as it always has. I gather your gripe is with the media. The media has a massive influence over the public as we all know. Yes the dog fighting thing is hot at the moment but thats why. its a hot topic. Fox hunting will always be there but wahst the point in making a story about it if its not going to sell papers?
I am trying to fathom your point. If you are trying to say that people are sheep then you would be correct. Thats hardly a point worth arguing though is it? As there is nothing new there.
The first line of your post is also pretty important. "As many people that are out there crying about some baby eating pitbulls, those same people should be crying about hunting animals. But they're not"
What are you trying to say here. What point are you trying to make? Are you saying that a baby getting mauled by a pitbull is less important that a chicken being killed to make a Zinger tower meal? If thats the case then ffs mate get real.
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Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
Was the rooster trained to play tic-tac-toe or did he just strut up to the roulette table one day and start bragging about his skills? You could teach a dog to play tic-tac-toe but he'd drool all over the board. Besides, a large part of the reason a human has never beat the rooster is because it's hard to concentrate when you are watching a cock hold a pencil.
I've seen dogs charge couragesly into burning buildings and carry out babies. Can a rooster do that? Huh, can it?
:rolleyes3:
What a great point.
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
As many people that are out there crying about some baby eating pitbulls, those same people should be crying about hunting animals. But they're not ;)
The reason is simple.................. The people that are all of a sudden "animal rights activists," didn't give a S*** about dog fighting until the media told them to.
These people are sheep.
Do you shed tears anytime some chicken is killed??
The ignorant answer is "No, chickens aren't smart like dogs."
WTF ever ::**
I happen to know for a fact that there is a chicken at the "Tropicana," hotel and casino in Las Vegas that plays tic tac toe, and if you can beat it (no human ever has ;)) you win like $100,000.00 or some shyt.
How many pitbulls can beat humans at tic tac toe??
ZERO................ Never has it happened, never will it happen. That's because pits aren't as smart as the chickens that are slaughtered by the tens of thousands everyday.
Nobody says anything about this, because the media hasn't told them to yet ;)
So what's more fair........... dog fighting, or other animals that are hunted for sport??
Dogs get to live unless they lose so bad that they can't function anymore. Deer, Foxes, and other "game," animals are out in the wild being stalked by humans..... eating in a pasture...... mating....... doing whatever, then "BOOM," they're shot and killed so they can end up as someones coat, or their heads decorate somebody's wall.
Why is this??
Because the media has yet to herd the sheep in the direction where they tell the sheep that "This is wrong.";)
The sheep can sad click me all they want, but I challenge somebody to bring a strong arguement against what I have just posted.
Hunting is legal, dog fighting is not...hunting is regulated, dog fighting is not and if you don't care about the legal side of this issue please continue reading.
Animals that are hunted are not tortured before they are killed....you don't see deer hunters taking bucks out one knee at a time.
And honestly all the hunters I know have a fondness and respect for nature and they use what they kill so in the end HUNTING HAS A PURPOSE...dog fighting is just cruel for no reason...maybe for betting but it's still not a good reason to do it.
Hunting has happened since the dawn of time and it's fed our ancestors....dog fighting has been around a long time but it hasn't really had a positive affect of society
I know of no guys who love dog fighting who have a respect for nature...infact their hobby alone shows how much disrespect for nature they have.
Animals are killed for more reasons than clothes and decoration...don't be naive! Not all hunters are the ""Great White Hunters" who ravage Africa killing the biggest, baddest animals just for shits and giggles....most hunters kill an animal, clean it, eat it, and use as much of the animal as they can so they can justify the hunting.
The media does make a lot of fuss over some stupid stuff but the Michael Vick incident in my opinion is not something they alone totally blew up. Michael Vick had star power and pair that with dog fighting and 24/7 news and you've got a fucking PR catastrophe for Vick and the NFL.
And why don't people consider chickens smart?....because it might lead to them having trouble eating chicken and KFC just can't afford that ;D .....that and very few people have pet chickens
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No disrespect mate but we eat chickens, we don't eat dogs. Thats why the fruckers are slaughtered everyday.They are damn tasty too in a bap with some mayo. I take it you are vegetarian? I'd hate to think you were being a hypocrite.
Also, the whole animal rights thing in regard to foxes, deers etc has been about long before the dog fighting scene. Its always been about, it has just as many supporters as it always has. I gather your gripe is with the media. The media has a massive influence over the public as we all know. Yes the dog fighting thing is hot at the moment but thats why. its a hot topic. Fox hunting will always be there but wahst the point in making a story about it if its not going to sell papers?
I am trying to fathom your point. If you are trying to say that people are sheep then you would be correct. Thats hardly a point worth arguing though is it? As there is nothing new there.
The first line of your post is also pretty important. "As many people that are out there crying about some baby eating pitbulls, those same people should be crying about hunting animals. But they're not"
What are you trying to say here. What point are you trying to make? Are you saying that a baby getting mauled by a pitbull is less important that a chicken being killed to make a Zinger tower meal? If thats the case then ffs mate get real.
Hang on. ignore my last bit. I understand what you are trying to say now. Why are people crying about pitbulls that harm humans when chickens don't hurt a fly.
Sorry mate i read it wrong. My other points still stand though.
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Originally Posted by boozeboxer
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
Man,you have abolutely 0 idea bout what your mouthing off about
I mean 0
Here's the first response................
Sure enough, it does nothing to address the valid points I made in my post.
NEXT!!!!!!!!!
There werent any
I grew up on farms,and own a pit
A female cow is relatively docile and you can have a friendly relatsionship,all males even the steers are knuckleheads
Horses exist so little girls can have their pictures taken on them
Pigs are very smart,and also very aggressive
Chickens are psychopaths
Ducks are very, nice animals,I cant even fathom eating duck
Deer,while I like them,overpopulate,and some need to be taken down,for their own sake
Same with Racoons,I had to arrow two of them this year,I didnt want too,but they were getting dangerous
And any dog,in the right household will revert to its pack mentality and view itself as a valued household member
I wasnt kidding sonny,you realy didnt know what you were talking about
Now if youd like to dig yourself deeper,its all on you......................
I actually disagree with cattle part of your observation. As a bunch, I would munch rather mess around with steers than hiefers..they can be some real bitches. The tamest animal I ever knew of was a 1,500 plus pound angus bull.......so I don't know. I think all breeds and systems are different though, but I have handled alot of cattle.
Only had one heifer I had a serious issue with,and she was mastitis prone,so not a real shocker there
Ive watched steers start to take apart their fencing to get at someon
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YOu must be talking about dairy cattle......I don't have any experience with those.
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YOu must be talking about dairy cattle......I don't have any experience with those.
Yeah Holsteins and Jersey Reds
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I don't understand why you think intelligence makes for bad eating though. If chickens are as intelligent as you say then perhaps eating them will be good for our own brains.
As for the chicken playing tic tac toe, is that classed as full time or part time work? Does he pay taxes? If he does and he's paying his way then I have no problem with him working in a casino and avoiding the usual fate of chickens.
But if he's earning money 'under the table' so to speak then I'd have no qualms about eating him
Oh and just a thought, how long do chickens live? I guess the age to be able to participate in licensed gambling in the US is 21.
If this chicken is underage he should be forced to quit immediately.
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This has turned into a discussion about livestock
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This has turned into a discussion about livestock
It was a ridiculous thread anyway!
Dog Fighting vs Hunting....if you make that comparison you obviously know nothing about hunting...or very little about dog fighting.
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I agree that a lot people are sheep and are quick to jump and follow a "cause" like you were saying...then drop it once it's not longer popular.
But there were a lot of animal rights activists before the whole Vick case and they are always very outspoken. And to be fair i'm sure a lot of PETA members are vegetarians. I dont think they are hypocrites for the most part, but they are kind of extreme.
Deer and other hunted animals are usually killed and used for food, or like you said maybe a coat. Dogs are domesticated and dependent on people for survival. It is cruel when there is something dependent on you and you choose to neglect and torture it. So hunting is not as bad as just killing for the sake of killing or for entertainment. I think getting shot is a more humane way to die then getting mauled to death for the entertainment of gamblers, and at least wild animals get to live some sort of "real" life in the wild before they are killed.
If I had to slaughter my own animals to eat them I would likely be a vegetarian. Though If I was lost in the woods and starving or something I would kill and eat whatever I could. So I dont really judge about it because I know most people would do either depending on the situation.
I am no vegetarian, but if it's possible I think things should be treated as humanely as possible before getting killed.
Like with free-range meat at least the animals get to be outside and pasture and mature with their "peers" before they are slaughtered and are not locked in a cramped, dark, dingy cell in a factory which is all it knew in its life before being slaughtered.
That is why I eat meat and I am still against dog fighting. I give you a CC though because I agree people are fickle and easy to sway and know where you are coming from with your argument, but there are worse things to follow/believe in then animal rights.
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The people who just took up the cause because it was in the news are indeed sheep and hipocrites for not complaining about hunting as well but the stead fast Animal rights extemists complain about both. While i believe peta to be just one step down from a terror organization and full of crazy illogical people, they DO stay consistant in their pro-animal/anti-human agenda.
They take it way too far tho. Throwing blood on little japanese kids to protest ANYTHING is bs. Sometimes I get the urge to wear a fur coat and leather pants (both of which i do not currently own ;D) to one of their demonstrations, pull out a quart of milk and some slim jim's, chug the milk, eat the slim jim's, say "MMMMM tastes like it was inhumanely killed" and then just leave.
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The people who just took up the cause because it was in the news are indeed sheep and hipocrites for not complaining about hunting as well but the stead fast Animal rights extemists complain about both. While i believe peta to be just one step down from a terror organization and full of crazy illogical people, they DO stay consistant in their pro-animal/anti-human agenda.
They take it way too far tho. Throwing blood on little japanese kids to protest ANYTHING is bs. Sometimes I get the urge to wear a fur coat and leather pants (both of which i do not currently own ;D) to one of their demonstrations, pull out a quart of milk and some slim jim's, chug the milk, eat the slim jim's, say "MMMMM tastes like it was inhumanely killed" and then just leave.
I found this site awhile back. http://peta-sucks.com/ There's some interesting stuff in there, and I read a story where Peta was protesting KFC and the guy and a couple of friends came out with a bucket of chicken and started eating it right in their face. ;D There's some pretty shocking facts and allegations linked to Peta.
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
Man,you have abolutely 0 idea bout what your mouthing off about
I mean 0
he is talking out of his arse.....now I will go on record to say that game hunting is worthless and needless. But hunting for food is needed. Chickens main existence is to provide food for humans. Dogs have assisted man in hunting food and protecting man for thousands of years!!!!!!!!!! two totally different things here. Dog fighting is also ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!! As well it should be. At 1 time it was legal, but then again at that time women couldn't vote, segragation was in vogue and WWI had yet to be fought!!! Get a brain 702...you are falling down the evolution ladder at a rapid pace! Join the human race not the neanderthals! You're better than that!!!
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Originally Posted by THE Bigragu
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
Man,you have abolutely 0 idea bout what your mouthing off about
I mean 0
he is talking out of his a***.....now I will go on record to say that game hunting is worthless and needless. But hunting for food is needed. Chickens main existence is to provide food for humans. Dogs have assisted man in hunting food and protecting man for thousands of years!!!!!!!!!! two totally different things here. Dog fighting is also ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!! As well it should be. At 1 time it was legal, but then again at that time women couldn't vote, segragation was in vogue and WWI had yet to be fought!!! Get a brain 702...you are falling down the evolution ladder at a rapid pace! Join the human race not the neanderthals! You're better than that!!!
I doubt the neanderthals engaged in dog fighting though. If you look at tribespeople today, the more primitive and indigenous the culture the more respect they have for the natural world.
Dog fighting and animal violence will probably continue the more 'civilised' we become.
