90s vs 2000s Welterweights Semifinals Felix Trinidad vs Floyd Mayweather

Trinidad endured some fierce body punching but in the end was too big and strong for the brittish sensation Ricky Hatton. Now he is up against his toughest test in the slick and fast Pretty Boy Floyd. Will he again be just too strong?

Mayweather had some trouble early going dealing with the famous Bazooka jab brom Quartey. Now he is up against the biggest strongest opponents he has ever faced. Time to put those skills to the ultimate test.

Mayweather would win an easy ud Tito would have success if Mayweather goes on the ropes other than that Mayweather wins comfortably.

Mayweather wins by decision. Trinidad's big problem was dealing with slick boxers who moved side-to-side. That's what Floyd will do for 12 rounds.

theres a distinct gayness about trinidad

Trinidad would have trouble dealing with Floyd's boxing ability. His power would keep him in the fight but I feel he would not hit his target cleanly enough to cause Mayweather big problems. Floyd's defense would be on show again as he boxed to a UD

trinidad couldn't deal with mayweathers boxing skill. mayweather ud

Castillo gave Mayweather problems so I could see Trinidad doing it too. Pernell's jab worked well when fought Tito at times but Trinidad overwhelmed him, I could see the same happening here.

Trinidad KO 8

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Originally Posted by Sugar_Shaw

Castillo gave Mayweather problems so I could see Trinidad doing it too. Pernell's jab worked well when fought Tito at times but Trinidad overwhelmed him, I could see the same happening here.

Trinidad KO 8

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The first Castillo fight was at lightweight vs. a young, pre-prime Mayweather, not to mention Mayweather took JLC to school in the rematch. Delahoya proved that Trinidad can be outboxed pretty easily. Mayweather is a much better boxer than Oscar, and has yet to be in any kind of a close fight since that first JLC fight.


Mayweather TKO 11

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Originally Posted by Sugar_Shaw

Castillo gave Mayweather problems so I could see Trinidad doing it too. Pernell's jab worked well when fought Tito at times but Trinidad overwhelmed him, I could see the same happening here.

Trinidad KO 8

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The first Castillo fight was at lightweight vs. a young, pre-prime Mayweather, not to mention Mayweather took JLC to school in the rematch. Delahoya proved that Trinidad can be outboxed pretty easily. Mayweather is a much better boxer than Oscar, and has yet to be in any kind of a close fight since that first JLC fight.


Mayweather TKO 11

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Mayweather may have been inexperienced but his style hasn't changed.
And how would Mayweather KO Trinidad (who had a good chin) but couldn't do it too Baldomir at Welter

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Castillo gave Mayweather problems so I could see Trinidad doing it too. Pernell's jab worked well when fought Tito at times but Trinidad overwhelmed him, I could see the same happening here.

Trinidad KO 8

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The first Castillo fight was at lightweight vs. a young, pre-prime Mayweather, not to mention Mayweather took JLC to school in the rematch. Delahoya proved that Trinidad can be outboxed pretty easily. Mayweather is a much better boxer than Oscar, and has yet to be in any kind of a close fight since that first JLC fight.


Mayweather TKO 11

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Mayweather may have been inexperienced but his style hasn't changed.
And how would Mayweather KO Trinidad (who had a good chin) but couldn't do it too Baldomir at Welter

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Mayweather's style has changed tons since the first JLC fight. That's why the rematch was as much of a clear cut victory for Floyd as it was. It wasn't because Castillo was doing anything different than he did the first time around, it was because Floyd was.

As for Trinidad....................


Tito had a bad habit of getting knocked down in fights. Can't really say that about Baldo, though. Baldo has a head like an anvil and I can't remember ever seeing him getting knocked down by anybody. Mayweather would finish Trinidad after he knocked him down once or twice.

Looks like we will have to agree to disagree

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Mayweather's style is still simlar to the one he used against Castillo, i'm not saying it' exactly the same, yes he did do things different second time round but the premice of his style is unchanged. Plus, Mayweather's powe left him when he went up to welter, he wouldn't be able to floor Tito IMO never mind finish him. Tito did go down sometimes but apart from the fight aginst Hopkins which was at a weight where guys who hit a lot harder than what he was used to and because of his style it led to him being KO'd. But anyway may point is, when Tito went down he almost always got back up, Mayweather wouldn't be able to finish him.

CC though for some good points and giving me something to debate about.

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Originally Posted by Sugar_Shaw

Looks like we will have to agree to disagree

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Mayweather's style is still simlar to the one he used against Castillo, i'm not saying it' exactly the same, yes he did do things different second time round but the premice of his style is unchanged. Plus, Mayweather's powe left him when he went up to welter, he wouldn't be able to floor Tito IMO never mind finish him. Tito did go down sometimes but apart from the fight aginst Hopkins which was at a weight where guys who hit a lot harder than what he was used to and because of his style it led to him being KO'd. But anyway may point is, when Tito went down he almost always got back up, Mayweather wouldn't be able to finish him.

CC though for some good points and giving me something to debate about.

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Tito is too one dimensional to beat someone like Mayweather i see someone mentioned Tito vs Whitaker fight but i mean come on that Whitaker was having drug problems and was way past his best and he stood toe to toe with Tito and went distance with Tito winning 3 rounds.

Imma huge Tito fan for his exciting KO's but There is no way in hell that he would beat Mayweather. It would be a shut out. Not KO because I continue to say that Tito's condition was underated in boxing by many and PBF will be more deffensive in the fight than offensive. But this is a mis-match. PBF by UD.

I am shocked, absolutely shocked that so many people believe Mayweather would handle Tito so easily and that one even said Tito would get stopped....ridiculous.

As usual Trinidad is judged way too harshly for his losses at 160. They forget that he was arguably a top 10 ww of all time.

Some are talking about the Castillo fight, well it really is irrelevant, Tito was 10 times better than Castillo or Corrales or anyone else Mayweather has fought with the exception of De la Hoya who was past his best at the time and still gave him a tough fight.

Some mention De la Hoya. Yes Oscar outboxed Tito for 9 rounds but it was far from easy. Tito still won 3 or 4 rounds out of the first 9 and he still made each of those rounds real close. Not to mention he still won the fight against a prime Oscar 8 years before Mayweather fought him to a split decision win.

Nothing I say here means that Tito would win. But to come here and say Mayweather would win easily is just plain nonsense. There is no way in hell that Mayweather steps into the ring with a prime Trinidad at 147 and has an easy UD.

Mayweather by easy UD.

People also forget that even though 160 wasn't Trinidad's best weight he still had two arms yet he was UNABLE to lay a glove on a fighter with superior defense in Winky Wright. Trinidad's power or lack of was irrelevant; he looked like a rookie sparring partner. Let's see, both Trinidad's losses came against guys with superior defense and what is Mayweather known for? Speed, adaptability, superior defense, a decent chin, etc.

Mayweather stopping Trinadad i heard it all now lmfao!!

The same guy who couldnt stop china chinner Zab Judah? Trinadad was a monster now i think Trinadad take Mayweather to the trenches, im still not sold on Mayweather at 147+ until he fights a live fighter Mosley Cotto Williams.

Hatton v Mayweather in all truth is a fight between two 140 lb fighters.

I'd say Mayweather was well on his way to KOing Judah when he got uppercutted to the bawls. You have to be careful with a fighter like Judah because he's a good combo of speed and power and you never know which version of Judah is going to show up (ie, Spinks I versus Spinks II). Floyd would have gotten hurt if he tried to just jump on him. He took his time and broke him down.

And considering he went up to junior middle and won I think we can call him a legit welterweight now.

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Mayweather by easy UD.

People also forget that even though 160 wasn't Trinidad's best weight he still had two arms yet he was UNABLE to lay a glove on a fighter with superior defense in Winky Wright. Trinidad's power or lack of was irrelevant; he looked like a rookie sparring partner. Let's see, both Trinidad's losses came against guys with superior defense and what is Mayweather known for? Speed, adaptability, superior defense, a decent chin, etc.

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Well why don't we talk about what WW Trinidad was known for. Debilitating power puncher with both hands, very quick hands, constant pressure, efficient, precise puncher (whenever someone compared common opponents with Trinidad, Tito consistantly averaged a higher connect percentage), great stamina, great body puncher (he bacame more of a head hunter later in his career), etc.

No one, NO ONE would have an easy UD with Trinidad at 147. This is not a P4P match up, this is at 147, Tito's best weight and not PBFs best weight. Mayweather will have to do much more to convince me that he can take on an ATG welterweight, much less beat him easily. No his win over DLH did not do that. DLHs weak flurries were not convincing, his excuse for not using the jab more was ridiculous and his lack of stamina and inability to fight for 12 full rounds means he is no longer a serious threat as he once was.

I say that for one simple reason: when Trinidad was faced with an opponent who didn't wilt under his power he had no 2nd gear. There wasn't another plan to switch it up once Plan A didn't work. Hopkins walked through Trinidad and Wright blocked him. They took his Plan A away and he was pretty much lost. Mayweather would do the same and Trinidad wouldn't know what to do other than follow him around the ring and eat shot after shot.

But I wouldn't suggest something so ridiculous as Trinidad getting KO'd. Not unless Mayweather could hit him across the back with a folding chair first.

Well at least we agree on something.

Look I'm not saying that Tito would beat him. I honestly don't know, there is just no way of knowing.

What I am saying is that beating prime Trinidad at 147 would not be easy like you and some others have said. The closest one that came to beating prime Tito was prime DLH and he still cuold not do it convincingly. No, Tito had no plan B but the fact is that very few fighters would be able to handle his plan A when Tito was at his best.

I'm not saying Tito was overrated or a cakewalk by any means. It's just that if you have one plan and you go up against a guy who's mapped out all the way to Plan Z there is every likelihood of you getting clowned.

Of course none of us knows what would happen, just what we believe based on prior outings. I could be way off and Tito takes Floyd out in the 1st. I just see two guys where one is significantly faster, adaptable and defensively schooled versus another guy who is pretty much strong and that's it. What happens when you can't put those heavy gloves on your opponent? In my book, you lose.

I think tito might of nicked this one tbh...

Tito wasn't so much trouble by slick boxer, but it was the jab of oscar and hopkins that troubled him more than anything... floyd doesnt jab... lets not forget floyd's best weight is not WW, titos was...

Floyd just beat, a not past it, but not prime oscar, in their primes at WW i think both tito and oscar beat floyd every time.

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I think tito might of nicked this one tbh...

Tito wasn't so much trouble by slick boxer, but it was the jab of oscar and hopkins that troubled him more than anything... floyd doesnt jab... lets not forget floyd's best weight is not WW, titos was...

Floyd just beat, a not past it, but not prime oscar, in their primes at WW i think both tito and oscar beat floyd every time.

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How can you say Mayweather doesn't jab? He has one of the better jabs in the sport and used his jab more than Oscar did in their fight. I strongly disagree Oscar ever beating Mayweather in his prime because Oscar didn't have even close to the defense he has now, and also he tried to match speeds with guys faster than him which he didn't do against Mayweather. I think Oscar gave Mayweather more problems at his age than he would have in his first fight with Mosley sure he was faster, but he was also a one handed fighter who was a lot more open.

Trinidad however, I think Mayweather would have troubles if he tried to fight Tito off the ropes. I think Tito would have a hard time hitting him, and wouldn't stop Mayweather, but I think that Mayweather would lose due to 1. Tito's popularity and 2. Not being active enough. However, if Mayweather used his jab and footspeed I think he would totally befuddle Tito.