Floyd Mayweather - Muppet Alert

Not sure if anyone posted this already but it made me laugh. He does lead a full and interesting life, doesn't he ;D


Floyd sighting in Vegas!
WBC welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather Jr. is well known in Las Vegas clubs for throwing handfuls of cash into crowds of people. On Saturday night at the Las Vegas Hard Rock, that practice could have had shocking results. According to MTV and TMZ, Mayweather's friend 50 Cent was performing a poolside concert on a stage suspended over the water, when Floyd started tossing bills around and into the pool causing concert-goers to dive in to collect them. The show was cut short soon after by 50 Cent due to fears that the people in the pool were pulling the stage full of high voltage electronics into the water.

What is a bigger upset?

1. Buster Douglas KO'ing Mike Tyson
2. This thread sitting here for 5+ hours without a response by Danny G

Danny G's speed and reflexes are definitely not what they once were. In his prime, he would have been all over this thread in a heartbeat.

Is Danny G a shot poster?

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What is a bigger upset?

1. Buster Douglas KO'ing Mike Tyson
2. This thread sitting here for 5+ hours without a response by Danny G

Danny G's speed and reflexes are definitely not what they once were. In his prime, he would have been all over this thread in a heartbeat.

Is Danny G a shot poster?

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Journeyman fighters can never be called shot. Cuz they were never any good.

He hasnt been the same since the De La Hoya fight ;D

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What is a bigger upset?

1. Buster Douglas KO'ing Mike Tyson
2. This thread sitting here for 5+ hours without a response by Danny G

Danny G's speed and reflexes are definitely not what they once were. In his prime, he would have been all over this thread in a heartbeat.

Is Danny G a shot poster?

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LMAO!

I seen the video and Floyd and 50 did nothing wrong, however everyone in the crowd was chest deep in water and something could have happend. I saw no cause for alarm but 50 and his people did. Just glad nobody was hurt. The only person who would have came out of this alive was 50 cent. lol

BTW...

Here is the video of what went on.

http://www.tmz.com/tmz_main_video?titleid=1173345349

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BTW...

Here is the video of what went on.

http://www.tmz.com/tmz_main_video?titleid=1173345349

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Sorry the video was there the other day now they changed it.

Is it wrong to be disappointed?

lmao

if i had that much money i never make it rain im preety greedy and cheap

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He hasnt been the same since the De La Hoya fight ;D

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LMAO.

That was no fight.
It did not even come close to living up to the hype.
Had it not been for the ODLH fans in the stands, I would have fell asleep. They were ooowing and aaawwing at anything ODLH did or did not do.

The fight wasn't competitve or exciting because Mayweather was THAT good. Why fight when u can simply outthink, out manouever and out box an opponent. You dont get paid more for KO's

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The fight wasn't competitve or exciting because Mayweather was THAT good. Why fight when u can simply outthink, out manouever and out box an opponent. You dont get paid more for KO's

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Not that this is aimed only at you but it is something that has crossed my mind lately. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that anyone could learn to fight like floyd. Would it be a great thing for boxing if everyone fought like him? IMO, no. It would make boxing very dull. He is considered boring for a reason. The only thing interesting about watching him fight is the people fighting him.

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The fight wasn't competitve or exciting because Mayweather was THAT good. Why fight when u can simply outthink, out manouever and out box an opponent. You dont get paid more for KO's

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Not that this is aimed only at you but it is something that has crossed my mind lately. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that anyone could learn to fight like floyd. Would it be a great thing for boxing if everyone fought like him? IMO, no. It would make boxing very dull. He is considered boring for a reason. The only thing interesting about watching him fight is the people fighting him.

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I agree slk123. Boxing needs exciting fights as much as it needs boxers who have skills. As for me, i love to watch knock outs rather than a show of skills. Fans have different tastes, ya know.

Hey, i see u guys point of view, definitely. But as im gettin older i jus seem to appreciate more of the skill involved in the sport. Sometimes its good to weatch Boxing to see Boxing, rather than Drama, Violence n hype

Not everone can fight like Mayweather, his style is his own and exceptional. If boxers could do what he could do, hit without being hit, they would all do it. But give me a boxer who can punch anyday eg Trinidad, Hearns and Roy Jones.

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Not everone can fight like Mayweather, his style is his own and exceptional. If boxers could do what he could do, hit without being hit, they would all do it. But give me a boxer who can punch anyday eg Trinidad, Hearns and Roy Jones.

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True. Not everyone also has granite chins. Not everyone also has punching power.hehehe.

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The fight wasn't competitve or exciting because Mayweather was THAT good. Why fight when u can simply outthink, out manouever and out box an opponent. You dont get paid more for KO's

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Not that this is aimed only at you but it is something that has crossed my mind lately. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that anyone could learn to fight like floyd. Would it be a great thing for boxing if everyone fought like him? IMO, no. It would make boxing very dull. He is considered boring for a reason. The only thing interesting about watching him fight is the people fighting him.

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Well i don't consider him boring you are stating your opinion as a fact which it isn't i could name 10 Mayweather fights that are exciting.

Mayweather vs Ndou
Mayweather vs Sosa
Mayweather vs Gatti
Mayweather vs Corrales
Mayweather vs Burton
Mayweather vs Chavez
Mayweather vs Judah
Mayweather vs Corely
Mayweather vs Castillo
Mayweather vs Manfredy
Mayweather vs Genaro Hernandez

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The fight wasn't competitve or exciting because Mayweather was THAT good. Why fight when u can simply outthink, out manouever and out box an opponent. You dont get paid more for KO's

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Not that this is aimed only at you but it is something that has crossed my mind lately. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that anyone could learn to fight like floyd. Would it be a great thing for boxing if everyone fought like him? IMO, no. It would make boxing very dull. He is considered boring for a reason. The only thing interesting about watching him fight is the people fighting him.

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Well i don't consider him boring you are stating your opinion as a fact which it isn't i could name 10 Mayweather fights that are exciting.

Mayweather vs Ndou
Mayweather vs Sosa
Mayweather vs Gatti
Mayweather vs Corrales
Mayweather vs Burton
Mayweather vs Chavez
Mayweather vs Judah
Mayweather vs Corely
Mayweather vs Castillo
Mayweather vs Manfredy
Mayweather vs Genaro Hernandez

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"The only thing interesting about watching him fight is the people fighting him."

This was the last statement in my post. You have your opinion and I have mine. Many people feel the way you do and many people feel the way I do. It's what makes mayweather such a good topic to debate.

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The fight wasn't competitve or exciting because Mayweather was THAT good. Why fight when u can simply outthink, out manouever and out box an opponent. You dont get paid more for KO's

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Not that this is aimed only at you but it is something that has crossed my mind lately. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that anyone could learn to fight like floyd. Would it be a great thing for boxing if everyone fought like him? IMO, no. It would make boxing very dull. He is considered boring for a reason. The only thing interesting about watching him fight is the people fighting him.

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Well i don't consider him boring you are stating your opinion as a fact which it isn't i could name 10 Mayweather fights that are exciting.

Mayweather vs Ndou
Mayweather vs Sosa
Mayweather vs Gatti
Mayweather vs Corrales
Mayweather vs Burton
Mayweather vs Chavez
Mayweather vs Judah
Mayweather vs Corely
Mayweather vs Castillo
Mayweather vs Manfredy
Mayweather vs Genaro Hernandez

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"The only thing interesting about watching him fight is the people fighting him."

This was the last statement in my post. You have your opinion and I have mine. Many people feel the way you do and many people feel the way I do. It's what makes mayweather such a good topic to debate.

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Which of those fights that were mentioned do you consider boring?

I find mayweather's performances boring on every one of his fights. That's not to say he doesn't move or throw punches or get KO/TKOs from time to time.

Main reasons for not appreciating mayweather:

He is predominately a counter-puncher which = you create openings and I'll be glad to fill them.

He primarily backs up.

He primarily is only offensive when the other fighter is no longer in a position to be a threat usually due to exhaustion from chasing him or that were safe from the beginning due to their fighting style or age.

I find him mostly boring for never truly stepping up and taking on anyone who would be a real stretch for him, save one. This is the vane in which I will answer each of the fights proposed to me.

N'dou - props for floyd in taking on a taller fighter who is a power puncher. One directional fighter. This guy had no defense, was way too easy to hit and had to be set to punch.
Sosa - Slow and one directional. Up until this fight, his record reflected one other well known fighter and that was a loss. Shouldn't have even been in the ring.
Gatti - This fight should have never taken place. Gatti was shot already.
Corrales - see N'dou. RIP Chico
Burton (Augustus) - No power, record not worthy. Souldn't have been in the ring.
Chavez - Level of previous competition was aweful. One directional and too short.
Judah - Mentally weak, previously proven how easily he could be rocked.
Corley - No power, whole list of nobodys on his record except when he stepped up in class and lost.
Castillo - One directional, easily hit but, the only fight that I thought was going to be difficult for him. And it was, the first time anyway.
Manfredy - Slow, one directional and easy to hit.
Hernandez - Terrible class of fighters up until this fight. KO record padded by competition. Never should have been in the ring.

I enjoy(ed) a lot of the fighters in this list. I mean no disrespect towards them, I was merely listing why they made easy fights for floyd.

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I find mayweather's performances boring on every one of his fights. That's not to say he doesn't move or throw punches or get KO/TKOs from time to time.

Main reasons for not appreciating mayweather:

He is predominately a counter-puncher which = you create openings and I'll be glad to fill them.

He primarily backs up.

He primarily is only offensive when the other fighter is no longer in a position to be a threat usually due to exhaustion from chasing him or that were safe from the beginning due to their fighting style or age.

I find him mostly boring for never truly stepping up and taking on anyone who would be a real stretch for him, save one. This is the vane in which I will answer each of the fights proposed to me.

N'dou - props for floyd in taking on a taller fighter who is a power puncher. One directional fighter. This guy had no defense, was way too easy to hit and had to be set to punch.
Sosa - Slow and one directional. Up until this fight, his record reflected one other well known fighter and that was a loss. Shouldn't have even been in the ring.
Gatti - This fight should have never taken place. Gatti was shot already.
Corrales - see N'dou. RIP Chico
Burton (Augustus) - No power, record not worthy. Souldn't have been in the ring.
Chavez - Level of previous competition was aweful. One directional and too short.
Judah - Mentally weak, previously proven how easily he could be rocked.
Corley - No power, whole list of nobodys on his record except when he stepped up in class and lost.
Castillo - One directional, easily hit but, the only fight that I thought was going to be difficult for him. And it was, the first time anyway.
Manfredy - Slow, one directional and easy to hit.
Hernandez - Terrible class of fighters up until this fight. KO record padded by competition. Never should have been in the ring.

I enjoy(ed) a lot of the fighters in this list. I mean no disrespect towards them, I was merely listing why they made easy fights for floyd.

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Give me your opinion on the following Hatton fights.

Hatton-Michael Stewart
Hatton-Ray Oliveira
Hatton-Carlos Vilches
Hatton-Juan Urango
Hatton-Carlos Maussa
Hatton-Dennis Pedersen
Hatton-Joe Hutchinson
Hatton-Vince Phillips
Hatton-Aldo Rios

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

Hey, i see u guys point of view, definitely. But as im gettin older i jus seem to appreciate more of the skill involved in the sport. Sometimes its good to weatch Boxing to see Boxing, rather than Drama, Violence n hype

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I kind of felt the same way for a while when I was getting older as well. Not just about boxing, but about life in general, that it is the simple things to be appreciated.

But then I got even older and realized that nothing can beat violence and hype. Scissors beat papar, paper beats rock, rock beats scissors, violence and hype beat ALL. ;)

Hatton-Michael Stewart: Cool Fight, Hatton real Quick.
Hatton-Ray Oliveira: Ray way past his prime being molested by the Hitman.
Hatton-Carlos Vilches: Not great, clearly Some dogfood for the Manchester Rotweiller.
Hatton-Juan Urango: Decent display, entertaining.
Hatton-Carlos Maussa: Sat ringside, never expierienced such an exciting atmosphere.
Hatton-Dennis Pedersen: Fair Cool. Ricky was a wrecking ball!
Hatton-Joe Hutchinson: Lil Joe Got owned.
Hatton-Vince Phillips: Same as Ray Olivera. Actually a very good fight.
Hatton-Aldo Rios: Now this one shouldnt have happened, a lightweight bein raped by a LW methinks.

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Originally Posted by slk123

I find mayweather's performances boring on every one of his fights. That's not to say he doesn't move or throw punches or get KO/TKOs from time to time.

Main reasons for not appreciating mayweather:

He is predominately a counter-puncher which = you create openings and I'll be glad to fill them.

He primarily backs up.

He primarily is only offensive when the other fighter is no longer in a position to be a threat usually due to exhaustion from chasing him or that were safe from the beginning due to their fighting style or age.

I find him mostly boring for never truly stepping up and taking on anyone who would be a real stretch for him, save one. This is the vane in which I will answer each of the fights proposed to me.

N'dou - props for floyd in taking on a taller fighter who is a power puncher. One directional fighter. This guy had no defense, was way too easy to hit and had to be set to punch.
Sosa - Slow and one directional. Up until this fight, his record reflected one other well known fighter and that was a loss. Shouldn't have even been in the ring.
Gatti - This fight should have never taken place. Gatti was shot already.
Corrales - see N'dou. RIP Chico
Burton (Augustus) - No power, record not worthy. Souldn't have been in the ring.
Chavez - Level of previous competition was aweful. One directional and too short.
Judah - Mentally weak, previously proven how easily he could be rocked.
Corley - No power, whole list of nobodys on his record except when he stepped up in class and lost.
Castillo - One directional, easily hit but, the only fight that I thought was going to be difficult for him. And it was, the first time anyway.
Manfredy - Slow, one directional and easy to hit.
Hernandez - Terrible class of fighters up until this fight. KO record padded by competition. Never should have been in the ring.

I enjoy(ed) a lot of the fighters in this list. I mean no disrespect towards them, I was merely listing why they made easy fights for floyd.

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All you have done is slate the opposition you still haven't told me why these fights were boring.

Genaro Hernandez had never been beating at Superfeatherweight and had beat guys like Azumah Nelson and his only loss was to Oscar Delahoya for you to say he shouldn't of been in the ring is a complete joke and shows you don't know anything about him.

I would bother with the others but i don't think i'll bother because your just slating his opposition no matter what tell me how many boxer's at the moment who have achieved as much as Mayweather and have beaten as many quality opposition as Mayweather ??

Saying that Mayweather on the whole is not an exciting fighter is fine.... we all have different opinions on fighters and we're entitled to our opinions.

But saying that every one of his fights is boring, and that the only thing interesting is watching his opponent.... that shows that either:
a. you're just criticizing Mayweather across the board to prove a point
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b. you haven't watched many Mayweather fights and don't really know what you're talking about

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

Saying that Mayweather on the whole is not an exciting fighter is fine.... we all have different opinions on fighters and we're entitled to our opinions.

But saying that every one of his fights is boring, and that the only thing interesting is watching his opponent.... that shows that either:
a. you're just criticizing Mayweather across the board to prove a point
or
b. you haven't watched many Mayweather fights and don't really know what you're talking about

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good observation. considering that our critic here have watched many of Mayweather's fights, then I choose letter a as the probable reason why he says Mayweather's fights are boring.

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

Saying that Mayweather on the whole is not an exciting fighter is fine.... we all have different opinions on fighters and we're entitled to our opinions.

But saying that every one of his fights is boring, and that the only thing interesting is watching his opponent.... that shows that either:
a. you're just criticizing Mayweather across the board to prove a point
or
b. you haven't watched many Mayweather fights and don't really know what you're talking about

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Maybe what was ment was ...only thing interesting is watching his opponent (and waiting To see If/when floyd will get KTFO ?)I don't know, It's like when you know a fighter is SO skilled & More Talented Than Who He's Facing that the consensus is "The Opponent" needs a KO to win.With Guys like Maywither,jones jr.,etc some just look For that from the opening bell?Who Knows.

i cant throw hundreds in pools, im just lucky enough to have some

"All you have done is slate the opposition you still haven't told me why these fights were boring."

Yes I did, re-read the beginning of my post. The fighters were challengers and not challenges.

Genaro Hernandez had never been beating at Superfeatherweight and had beat guys like Azumah Nelson and his only loss was to Oscar Delahoya for you to say he shouldn't of been in the ring is a complete joke and shows you don't know anything about him.

OR, I was talking about Carlos Hernandez. Consider this:
1997 Genero vs Carlos - Genero wins
1998 Genero vs mayweather - mayweather wins. Genero retires after this fight and a 14yr career. Too old? Past his prime? Only loss was to ODHL, Azuma Nelson retired the year after the Genero fight and a stunning 19 year career. Way to go Genero.
2001 Mayweather takes on Carlos, WTF.

I would bother with the others but i don't think i'll bother because your just slating his opposition no matter what tell me how many boxer's at the moment who have achieved as much as Mayweather and have beaten as many quality opposition as Mayweather ??"

We could debate the rest of his resume let alone the rest of the fights on the list but we both have our minds made up.

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Saying that Mayweather on the whole is not an exciting fighter is fine.... we all have different opinions on fighters and we're entitled to our opinions.

But saying that every one of his fights is boring, and that the only thing interesting is watching his opponent.... that shows that either:
a. you're just criticizing Mayweather across the board to prove a point
or
b. you haven't watched many Mayweather fights and don't really know what you're talking about

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Maybe what was ment was ...only thing interesting is watching his opponent (and waiting To see If/when floyd will get KTFO ?)I don't know, It's like when you know a fighter is SO skilled & More Talented Than Who He's Facing that the consensus is "The Opponent" needs a KO to win.With Guys like Maywither,jones jr.,etc some just look For that from the opening bell?Who Knows.

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You have a greater grasp of my opinion than anyone else.

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

Saying that Mayweather on the whole is not an exciting fighter is fine.... we all have different opinions on fighters and we're entitled to our opinions.

But saying that every one of his fights is boring, and that the only thing interesting is watching his opponent.... that shows that either:
a. you're just criticizing Mayweather across the board to prove a point
or
b. you haven't watched many Mayweather fights and don't really know what you're talking about

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You could have left it at your beginning statement and you'd be dead on right. We all have our opinions. The A and B part of your post are absurd.

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

Saying that Mayweather on the whole is not an exciting fighter is fine.... we all have different opinions on fighters and we're entitled to our opinions.

But saying that every one of his fights is boring, and that the only thing interesting is watching his opponent.... that shows that either:
a. you're just criticizing Mayweather across the board to prove a point
or
b. you haven't watched many Mayweather fights and don't really know what you're talking about

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You could have left it at your beginning statement and you'd be dead on right. We all have our opinions. The A and B part of your post are absurd.

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Far from absurd.

If you think EVERY one of his fights is boring, than either A or B is true. You're not arguing that Floyd has had several fights that weren't up to some people's entertainment standards.... that would have been a very understandable argument on your part.
You're making a blanket statement about a fighter that he is making you look like someone who either:
a. is exaggerating to make a point
b. hasn't seen enough Floyd fights to have an informed opinion

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The fight wasn't competitve or exciting because Mayweather was THAT good. Why fight when u can simply outthink, out manouever and out box an opponent. You dont get paid more for KO's

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Not that this is aimed only at you but it is something that has crossed my mind lately. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that anyone could learn to fight like floyd. Would it be a great thing for boxing if everyone fought like him? IMO, no. It would make boxing very dull. He is considered boring for a reason. The only thing interesting about watching him fight is the people fighting him.

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Only to ignorant people who know nothing about boxing. To watch him if you know boxing is watching something special.

"If you think EVERY one of his fights is boring, than either A or B is true. You're not arguing that Floyd has had several fights that weren't up to some people's entertainment standards.... that would have been a very understandable argument on your part.
You're making a blanket statement about a fighter that he is making you look like someone who either:
a. is exaggerating to make a point
b. hasn't seen enough Floyd fights to have an informed opinion"

A. I'm not exaggerating to make a point, it's my opinion (it is also shared with others) and I didn't say it should be everyones opinion. If he is exciting to you then that is your opinion (along with others).

B. I've probably seen over 20 of his fights which is more than half of his career. I've also read over a dozen articles on him. I've listened to sports shows that have discussed his career and I've seen interviews with him as well. I get the feeling this would fit the bill for having seen "enough" of floyd to have an informed opinion.

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The fight wasn't competitve or exciting because Mayweather was THAT good. Why fight when u can simply outthink, out manouever and out box an opponent. You dont get paid more for KO's

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Not that this is aimed only at you but it is something that has crossed my mind lately. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that anyone could learn to fight like floyd. Would it be a great thing for boxing if everyone fought like him? IMO, no. It would make boxing very dull. He is considered boring for a reason. The only thing interesting about watching him fight is the people fighting him.

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Only to ignorant people who know nothing about boxing. To watch him if you know boxing is watching something special.

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This has become dirtier than pazienza Vs. garza.Point deduct for name calling,way to elavate the conversation. ::**