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Ok this is a little bit of a variation on "How do you throw a left hook"
What causes injuries when a left hook is thrown improperly... I find that I have a lot more chance of tweaking muscles throwing the left hook then any other punch that I throw... what causes this?
Blackvenom-2001
Basically the elbow being not in line with the foot and shoulder on impact.Putting to much leverage on the shoulder.
Hmmmm... interesting... I didn't know that and it was why I asked. My shoulder is what is taking the brunt of the injuries so maybe just knowing this will help... any other tips!
What gives the power is the opposite shoulder, what gives it direction is the front foot, what gives stability is the backfoot
Oh and always turn the fist, so the fist matches his chin line it protects the thumb youre hitting him with your knuckles and locking by contraction the muscles and tendons in the shoulder for the shock and recoil
Hip movement is important,but its also a shot you shouldnt be winding up on,it puts undue stress on the shoulder when your shoulder and hip reach the point that impact should be being made and your fist is still trailing,it creates a serious jerk on your rotator cuff
People say that if you can't explain something simply you don't understand it - I get the impression you understand it CC Scrap :)Quote:
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I never feel right winding up for a hook and oddly it feels stronger if I don't I think. Maybe it's what you say about that being bad for the shoulder CC Monkey
When on a bag, alittle tip. When throwing combos to the head area on the bag Hooks jabs crosses and uppercuts should all land on the same spot. To throw the hook at the side of the bag is bad practice for direction, theirs nobody with a head that size youre practicing missing the target.
Thanks for the tip CC Scrap :) - I think I did miss with a big unco looking left hook last time i sparred :-[
More great stuff for the 'what works' section.Quote:
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I tried this today and it really worked. I have been suffering from pain where my thumb meets the wrist when i throw hooks. This bag advice combined with a change in my wrap technique worked a treat. Cheers for the advice.Quote:
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Reg. Scrap´s last post about head combinations and direction I find the maize ball an exellent equipment far better for most than the bag.
this is a good point. many guys often hit the side of the bag. it's simply wrong. this is what makes throwing a TRUE left hook on the bag a bit tricky. Those ultra slim Thai banana bags are better of it. The only time I aim for the side is if I'm emulating a body shot, where the trunk area is thicker than the head. and when I'm working TRUE left hooks on the bag, I don't look to HIT the bag, but rather skim the front of it and SPIN the bag, which would be tantamount to clippng the guy's chin. This is the best way I know of to work a proper elbow UP palm DOWN left hook on the bag. ps, no it doesn't hurt your hand or wrist. Just clip the bag enough to spin it, which will also help slow down or stop your arm, lust like hitting a person. 8)Quote:
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Hi Scrap,
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by turning the fist to match the chin line. Does that mean your palm (obviously closed) is facing the floor? Or is it supposed to face yourself, so that your knuckles are all in a line vertically?
Thanks
Facing the floor so the knuckles are along the Jaw line on impact, it also protects the rotator locking it giving better shoulder balance
Alot to what Scrap says
Balance is the key to everything,offense,defense,everything
so scrap, in summation when i hit or should i say on impact, my fist, left shoulder and hip all are in a vertical alignment? i should not have a fist passing the shoulder or hip? and what should i be doing for my right shoulder? just spininng and keeping it level?
Iceman, everything is working, probably the knees more than anything to compensate for the work the ankle is doing and to protect the cruciate ligaments and posture being lost.
Another thing to consider,is regardless of the punch,if your throwing it correctly,it should land flush on the bag.If its doing anything but that,you arent doing it right
These two posts I got from (Grey mon's,) Joe's posts from a couple of years ago on hooks ;)
In your basic stance your feet should be under your shoulders so you can move and so you can shift your weight from one to the other. Your left shoulder should be forward, left leg rotated inward so left toe is @ at 40angle to the right toe (pointed at foe with the heel @ 2" off the floor) Left arm bent so elbow rests lightly aginst the ribs, left hand (knuckles outward) @ at shoulder height 10" or so forward. To throw a hook drop right foot flat, toe now at a 90angle from foe, allweight on straight right leg. Left heel comes up, pivot toe inward. Turn hip, then left shoulder as far to right as possible. Left hand hasn't moved at all as of yet, now the tension created will whip it through. Keep this in mind; as fist travels on an arc, raise left elbow such that at finish the two large knuckles of left fist touch your right shoulder. Right glove should be inside left chin tucked behind left shoulder.
If your uppercut is working well, so is your hook. You just haven't seen it yet. Try this; throw a left uppercut. Then throw it again, raising your elbow as the fist travels. It should end with the two large knuckles on the left touching your right shoulder. By the way, hooks and uppercuts are always short punches, tall or not. ( I'm near 6'3" and when i "participated" i began at 147, finished at 176) Keep elbow within a 90degree angle and wrist locked. Good luck .